Washington Type "B" priceguide post. Edit: Price synopsis in first post.

ksteelheader · December 3, 2009 2:45AM

We need some results for 1964.

Here is what we've come up with so far. Keep em' coming!!:

dlmtorts reports: There was a Heritage Auction several months ago (but in 09)

1956 PCGS MS 66 $253
1957 PCGS MS 66 $138
1959 PCGS MS 65 $35
1960 PCGS MS 66 $172.50
1961 PCGS MS 66 $184
1963 PCGS MS 66 $184

ProofArtworkonCircs reports:

Here is the TT action for November 2009. All are unattributed and toned.
1956 PCGS 65 $200 on 11/01/09
1957 PCGS 65 $45 on 11/16/09 (and I bid $42 for it)
1963 NGC 65 $70 on 11/22/09

ProofArtworkonCircs reports:
Results for Sunday night 27 Dec 2009

Ebay 1960 PCGS MS 64 attributed B $25.05 + $1.58 up $7.05 in 1 week
TT 1957 PCGS MS 64 attributed B $24 down $3 for the week
TT 1958 PCGS MS 63 attributed B $9 down $3 for the week
TT 1958 PCGS MS 64 attributed B $15 down $12 for the week
TT 1958 PCGS MS 65 attributed B $60 up $15 for the week
TT 1960 PCGS MS 63 attributed B $21 up $3 for the week
TT 1961 PCGS MS 64 attributed B $50

edited to add 1 week price movement

NotSure reports:

A '61 Type B MS64 in PCGS plastic (attributed) went for $175 recently

and also:

1956 Type B (attributed) PCGS MS64 $175
'62 Type B PCGS went for $175

1964 25C Type B Reverse MS64 PCGS.
Jan 13, 2009..............................................$29.00

Manofcoins reports on Jan 2, 2010...
1957 type B ICG 68 .........$50

dlmtorts · December 3, 2009 3:32AM

There was a Heritage Auction several months ago (but in 09) of several B reverse quarters that were mostly PCGS MS 66. The prices realized were :

Final prices now:

1956 PCGS MS 66 $253
1957 PCGS MS 66 $138
1959 PCGS MS 65 $35
1960 PCGS MS 66 $172.50
1961 PCGS MS 66 $184
1963 PCGS MS 66 $184

wondercoin · December 3, 2009 3:37AM

undesignated possibly? As the 1961 was pop -0- in MS66 until this week.

Wondercoin

mumu · December 3, 2009 3:45AM

Geez, and i cant even get 75$ for a beautifully toned 57 in ms66. I suck.

dlmtorts · December 3, 2009 1:25PM

bump - for the late night crowd

ProofArtworkonCircs · December 3, 2009 2:20PM

Here is the TT action for November 2009. All are unattributed and toned.
1956 PCGS 65 $200 on 11/01/09
1957 PCGS 65 $45 on 11/16/09 (and I bid $42 for it)
1963 NGC 65 $70 on 11/22/09

NotSure · December 3, 2009 2:35PM

A '61 Type B MS64 in PCGS plastic (attributed) went for $175 recently, here

ProofArtwork....the colors on that '63 unattributed in NGC plastic that sold on the 22nd are extremely nice.

ProofArtworkonCircs · December 3, 2009 2:45PM

<<A '61 Type B MS64 in PCGS plastic (attributed) went for $175 recently,>>

Fantastic. The PCGS price guide says it is worth $80.

ProofArtworkonCircs · December 3, 2009 3:54PM

<<Recently, a 1962 in MS64 fetched almost $175>>

Quote from the 1961 quarter referenced above sales pitch.

cone10 · December 3, 2009 4:15PM

On ebay both attributed:

1959 PCGS MS 64 22.49
1960 PCGS MS 64 32.98

I hope the hunt went well.

ksteelheader · December 4, 2009 7:49AM

I just got a 57 today that is PCGS MS66, unattributed. I now have two of those to send in.

MORGANHUNTER2 · December 4, 2009 8:07AM

I have an old NGC holder 58 that is a pure white 65- vert little markings to keep it from an upgrade and the designation.

so does anyone have a price for a 58 in 65.

I also have a 59 and 60, and a 56 - but the 56 is going to be a special coin......

ksteelheader · December 4, 2009 8:08AM

<< I have an old NGC holder 58 that is a pure white 65- vert little markings to keep it from an upgrade and the designation.

so does anyone have a price for a 58 in 65.

I also have a 59 and 60, and a 56 - but the 56 is going to be a special coin...... >>

Giveaway???

NotSure · December 4, 2009 9:19AM

Quote from the 1961 quarter referenced above sales pitch.

No sales pitch. It went for $173 and change. I looked it up at the time that '61 (which was Nov 26) was available, and, it was indeed legit, and not a 'pitch'.

MORGANHUNTER2 · December 4, 2009 9:22AM

<< 

<< I have an old NGC holder 58 that is a pure white 65- vert little markings to keep it from an upgrade and the designation.

so does anyone have a price for a 58 in 65.

I also have a 59 and 60, and a 56 - but the 56 is going to be a special coin...... >>

Giveaway???

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you see that little fairy princess you have in your sig line

be like the fairy- flap your wings and fly away

did you get at least a 10 pt buck today or are you still PO'd that you actually have to go to work on Monday? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!

ksteelheader · December 4, 2009 7:49PM

<< 

<< 

<< I have an old NGC holder 58 that is a pure white 65- vert little markings to keep it from an upgrade and the designation.

so does anyone have a price for a 58 in 65.

I also have a 59 and 60, and a 56 - but the 56 is going to be a special coin...... >>

Giveaway???

[/q

you see that little fairy princess you have in your sig line

be like the fairy- flap your wings and fly away

did you get at least a 10 pt buck today or are you still PO'd that you actually have to go to work on Monday? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! >>

I got a nice fat doe, but the 10 point still eludes me.

Work is gonna be tough, after an eight month vacation.

NotSure · December 5, 2009 1:15AM

In keeping this as up-to-date as possible (as I have a vested interest):

Yesterday....
1956 Type B (attributed) PCGS MS64 $175 (PCGS price $125).

Starting to like these prices realized. This thread was a great idea, Ken!!!

ksteelheader · December 5, 2009 3:11AM

TTT

ProofArtworkonCircs · December 6, 2009 12:01PM

At midnight on the evening of Dec $, I checked eBay for Washington quarter - type B offerings.
I found 51 which is a lot higher than it used to be. 43 were BIN, 3 had bids pending and 5 had no bids at that moment which probably means nothing.

So far 5 have finished
1957 6 Dec 16:03 raw gem unc $39 + $2.50 S&H
1958 6 Dec 16:02 raw gem unc $36 + $2.50
1959 6 Dec 16:01 raw gem unc $36 + $2.50
1962 5 Dec 18:00 raw circulated $2.03 + $2.50 (may be artificially high after I put a bid on it)
1963 6 Dec 15:59 raw very choice unc $21.05 + $2.50

cointime · December 6, 2009 12:52PM

Super info, but as I recall the price guide editor does not take into account e-bay auctions as actual auctions when moving the price guide either up or down.

Ken

ksteelheader · December 7, 2009 6:59AM

TTT

19Lyds · December 7, 2009 9:48AM

<< At midnight on the evening of Dec $, I checked eBay for Washington quarter - type B offerings.
I found 51 which is a lot higher than it used to be. 43 were BIN, 3 had bids pending and 5 had no bids at that moment which probably means nothing.

So far 5 have finished
1957 6 Dec 16:03 raw gem unc $39 + $2.50 S&H
1958 6 Dec 16:02 raw gem unc $36 + $2.50
1959 6 Dec 16:01 raw gem unc $36 + $2.50
1962 5 Dec 18:00 raw circulated $2.03 + $2.50 (may be artificially high after I put a bid on it)
1963 6 Dec 15:59 raw very choice unc $21.05 + $2.50 >>

None of the coin above is worth what they sold for except that circulated 1962. The rest are bids placed based on the photo's which are very nice, but not nice enough to cover those MS64/MS65 flaws. MS66 is the money grade IMO.

NotSure · December 7, 2009 10:21AM

A '64 PCGS MS64 Type B (attributed) went for $175 on ebay, earlier today.

Perhaps MS66 isn't necessarily THE 'money grade'. Perhaps it's the BIG money grade, but for a few years ('56, '62), MS64 seems to be a 'good' money grade (for now), MS65 a 'better' money grade. Even the '61 in MS65, regardless of the 2 just made in MS66, is a good money grade. If the masses are going to pay that kind of money for MS64's now....it bodes well, though those kinds of bids/purchases are only going to be found in PCGS attributed holders.

I agree with Lee to a certain point, that, RAW, those prices are way too much, as most of the nicest of the raw ones won't grade any better than MS64, if that high.

19Lyds · December 7, 2009 11:26AM

<< A '64 PCGS MS64 Type B (attributed) went for $175 on ebay, earlier today.

Perhaps MS66 isn't necessarily THE 'money grade'. Perhaps it's the BIG money grade, but for a few years ('56, '62), MS64 seems to be a 'good' money grade (for now), MS65 a 'better' money grade. Even the '61 in MS65, regardless of the 2 just made in MS66, is a good money grade. If the masses are going to pay that kind of money for MS64's now....it bodes well, though those kinds of bids/purchases are only going to be found in PCGS attributed holders.

I agree with Lee to a certain point, that, RAW, those prices are way too much, as most of the nicest of the raw ones won't grade any better than MS64, if that high. >>

That MS64 1964 was kind of a fluke IMO but the 1956, 1962, 1961 and 1964 are the big ticket coins as far as scarcity goes.

Since folks have been submitting these, the above 4 have had the lowest populations but the 1964 is catching up rapidly with the other common coins. The other three have remained relatively constant.

As little as a month has gone by since I had a complete set of MS64's (1956-1964) up on eBay and the BST with a $500 BIN with absolutely no offers over a 2 month period of time.

I expect the entire market for these coins resides on these forums between the posters and the lurkers.

ProofArtworkonCircs · December 7, 2009 2:09PM

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I was going to disagree, but after further reflection I agree. Most every person that I know that have these has some connection to the forum.

Yet over the last 46 years since the earliest Coin World article that I know of, I think some small fry have been quietly cherrypicking these.

oreville · December 8, 2009 6:27AM

My 1956 PCGS MS-66 type B reverse FS-901 25c was the first one stickered by CAC in this grade.

It is now off the market.

ProofArtworkonCircs · December 8, 2009 2:30PM

An eBay item of a 1960 PCGS MS 64 attributed finished tonight at $36 + 1.58 S&H.

NotSure · December 8, 2009 3:45PM

The '60 in MS64 going for that price doesn't surprise me, as its right up there in population next to the '63 and '58, with just shy of 200 total graded. An MS66 '60 Type B, with only 9 in grade, 0 better, would fetch much more (supporting Lee's theory of 'MS66 being the money grade'. The MAJORITY of collectors for these Type B's MAY be forum members/lurkers, but not just from THIS forum, but from the many other forums out there...not to mention those with 'Variety' registry sets where they are required.

Boom · December 8, 2009 5:59PM

Within the last month alone I auctioned two raw 1956 Type B and extended a Second Chance Offer to an underbidder that was beaten out by a dollar, on a 3rd.
I opened bidding at $75 and all 3 sold in the $90 range. Everyone that got these absolutely loved them as evidenced by the feedback they left AND I did this with
the customary 7 day no questions asked money back Guarantee.

I was up front regarding what I felt they would realistically grade out at and provided very clear pictures using Macro.

I do not want to flood population on any & all years. As such I decided to auction a few in this fashion.

I'll submit all various years I currently have in my posession, a few at a time.

The worst grade I made was a 1959 cut right out of a mint set - PCGS 63 - however back then with pops in single digits, even it, surprisingly, performed rather well.

I've since made an equal amount of PCGS 64 & 65 for other years sent in (I've yet to submit a 56). Again, having been first with pops extremely low, the 64s brought
in a tad over $100 each. PCGS 65s (some were top pops at the time) went for around $150 - $175. I was also one of the very first to auction propertly attributed 66s
& 67s and they performed quite well actually!!

My point is this. Bearing in mind the expense to "make" these I fully intend to be very selective concerning future submissions, as Type B "silvers" go.

I hope this helps with the records regarding this elusive Variety.

mach19 · December 9, 2009 5:58AM

TTT

ProofArtworkonCircs · December 13, 2009 2:04PM

There wera a couple of items finished on eBay today.
1956 PCGS VF 30 attributed went for $36.99 + $3.00 shipping.
1960 PCGS MS 64 attributed went for $20.49 + $1.58 down from last Tuesday's identical item at $36.00 + $1.58.

TexasNationals · December 13, 2009 2:46PM

What would a 1964 Type B rev. in a MS-67 holder be worth??

Thanks,

19Lyds · December 14, 2009 9:12AM

<< What would a 1964 Type B rev. in a MS-67 holder be worth??

Thanks, >>

Well, I'd expect a bazillion dollars since a 1964 in MS67 commands as much as 5 grand. (PCGS Pops show only about 6 at that grade)

cointime · December 14, 2009 9:28AM

Does this e-bay auction count?
It is not a MS67 but it sure looks nice in hand - I picked it up for a song

Ken

wondercoin · December 14, 2009 3:11PM

Ken: Don't be messing up my pop 1 MS66 1962-P now!!

Wondercoin

NotSure · December 14, 2009 3:12PM

Seems Carlsbad is flooding the market with '60 Type B in MS64. They seem to be driving their own realized prices down.

wondercoin · December 14, 2009 3:55PM

If -1- coin per week is "flooding the market" (and I am not disagreeing with you), then there isn't much of a "market" unfortunately.

Wondercoin

NotSure · December 14, 2009 4:59PM

Well, they have already sold 3-4 of the total of 14 graded in MS64, and now, they have 2 more listed. I wonder how many of the '60's in MS64 they have/had. I'd love to grab one when the price reaches about $15 for my Dansco, which will have the '56-'64 P mint coins in cracked out MS64's. Though, I agree with you Mitch, 'flooding the market' wasn't an appropriate term (1 per week), but now, with 2 listed this week, they seem to have/had about half of the total graded in MS64.

ProofArtworkonCircs · December 15, 2009 8:05AM

<<Well, they have already sold 3-4 of the total of 14 graded in MS64,>>

Whoa, what 14?
PCGS shows 111 1960 type B MS 64 and ANACS, out of date figures, show 60 (40 type B and 20 Breen 4393)

SanctionII · December 15, 2009 8:16AM

I bought a roll of MS 1958 P Quarters some years back.

When I first heard of Type B quarters on the forums I got the roll, opened it and looked at the coins. Out of 40 quarters, 34 of them are Type B. I still have them and after reading this thread wonder what I should do with my "hoard" of 34 raw MS 1958 P type B quarters.

Any suggestions?

ksteelheader · December 15, 2009 8:57AM

<< I bought a roll of MS 1958 P Quarters some years back.

When I first heard of Type B quarters on the forums I got the roll, opened it and looked at the coins. Out of 40 quarters, 34 of them are Type B. I still have them and after reading this thread wonder what I should do with my "hoard" of 34 raw MS 1958 P type B quarters.

Any suggestions? >>

ProofArtworkonCircs · December 15, 2009 9:16AM

According to PCGS figures, 1958 is the most common "B" after 1963 and just before 1960. However 1963 B's are scarcer than the other two in grades above MS 64.

wondercoin · December 15, 2009 9:25AM

I am working with the Price Guide editor on some revised prices today. Mostly all changing prices are "plusing".

Wondercoin

SUMORADA · December 15, 2009 10:11AM

I bought a couple hundred dollars of junk silver the other day, about $80.00 of it was washingtons, of this I was surprised to find (3) 1961 Type "B" Reverse and (1) 1963....I have had several Type "B" Reverse Quarters including (19) BU 1956 Type "B"......very few 1961 and only (1) of them in BU........here are the circulated ones from the other day..

ProofArtworkonCircs · December 15, 2009 11:44AM

SUMORADA's picture brings up a whole range of emotions in me, including nostalgia, sadness and a feeling of misspent youth.

Without looking at the PUP's, those coins jump right out at me as type B's. The whole fabric of the coin seems different. I think it is a tiny bit of tarnish accumalating in the sharp device/field boundaries thus outlining the eagle in black to some extent. They obviously look different to me 45 years ago when I used to go through silver quarters from active circulation. I would grab one of those oddities and look at it and realize that it was quite circulated and decide it was not really worthy of further consideration. I never realized that pristine white coins existed, but did not jump out at you in the same way. If only I had detected the minor design differences and gone after them. I could have cherrypicked a fortune.

One thing I have recently noticed is that on many of the circulated B's, the areas by LIBERTY and QUARTER DOLLAR are worn away and practically rimless. At this point, I don't know how universal it is or what it means. If you stack up B's all facing the same way, the pile will have one side higher than the other.

cointime · December 15, 2009 11:57AM

Mitch,

I do not plan on submitting this coin right away and when I do, I doubt it will make a 66. I think if I had to put the type "B" rev coins in a category I would say they are like condition census. As proofartworkoncircs stated these coins [in certain years] will not be so plentiful in grades MS65 and above. Heck it is hard to find nice MS65 coins in a roll, let alone one of these. Myself, I am happy hunting these and finding MS65 grades. I don't have any roll put away and I rely on other before me that have put these away - most not knowing what they have. On another note, I'd like to see the 1964-D rev of '65 get some prices populated in the guide - I think these are really special coins

SUMORADA · December 15, 2009 12:15PM

TextIf only I had detected the minor design differences and gone after them. I could have cherrypicked a fortune.

With all of your expertise that you have unselfishly shared with the members here since these and other types have really started to surface and get recognition, you don't need a fortune, your already rich my friend, thank you and Happy Holidays!....

wondercoin · December 15, 2009 12:30PM

Ken: Ty C coins should have starting prices by the end of the week. If I recall correctly, the MS64 will be listed at $450.

Wondercoin

ProofArtworkonCircs · December 15, 2009 1:51PM

<<Ken: Ty C coins should have starting prices by the end of the week. If I recall correctly, the MS64 will be listed at $450.>>

Finding a 1964 D type C in true unc was regarded as quite a feat decades ago.

PCGS shows 8 (up 2 since Dec 1) in MS 64 and 2 better.

Strangely enough, ANACS has 3 entries listing these for a total of 31 in MS 64 and 4 better.

ProofArtworkonCircs · December 15, 2009 2:39PM

Carlsbad has just sold another 1960 PCGS attributed MS 64 type B on ebay.
Price was $15.49 + $1.58 shipping.

19Lyds · December 15, 2009 4:04PM

<< Does this e-bay auction count?
It is not a MS67 but it sure looks nice in hand - I picked it up for a song

Ken >>

First be sure its not a "proof" coin.

I've seen Proof coins offered on eBay as "Type B's" which they in fact are but but the real Type B is on a business strike coin.

Washington Type "B" priceguide post. Edit: Price synopsis in first post.

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