<< <i><<I see what you mean but it's awful hard to be certain using pics alone.
I'm sure it's a Type B though.>>
I completely agree. The ES separation is a dead giveaway and I can see some other B characteristics there also. >>
the es seperation seems kinda iffy to me too. The leaf to the A looks type b all the way but that top arrow looks exposed to me. You can clearly see the tip if you zoom in on the pic. is it possible the A leaf looks better struck than it is? If you look at the tail feathers they look unreal. in any event, lets say all the type b markers are there but that arrow is exposed, wouldnt that be something new?
Just checked Ebay to see what was going on. There were 70 type B's offered as follows: 1956 1 1957 14 1958 9 1959 8 1960 10 1961 6 1962 4 1963 13 1964 5
linky I have talked to that guy he always pulls the type b's and has told me he gets them every once in awhile. Is there anyone going to the fun show? I really need someone to look at a couple coins i hope to bid on.. My 1956 and 1960 are in at our host and should see results in the next week. Ok need help first anyone thinking about bidding on this? and is this a type c ? type c ?
Feb 8, 2011 AM - Ebay 84 offerings type B circulation strikes unless otherwise specified I think these are a pretty good indication of current relative rarity. Over the years I think a lot of 1964's have been melted while 1958's were saved.
1956 3 1957 17 1958 11 1959 10 1960 11 1961 5 1962 6 1963 15 1964 5 1968 S proof 1 (A minority item but not in the mainstream of collecting at the moment.) 1969D 0 1970D 0 1971D 0 1972D 0
Those numbers are interesting. I think the numbers are reflective of the relative rarities of each year. I don't fully understand the 1968 S proof variety. Can you give us some insight on that one? As far as the 1964's are concerned, my experience is that they are probably the 2nd most difficult to find.
<<Those numbers are interesting. I think the numbers are reflective of the relative rarities of each year. I don't fully understand the 1968 S proof variety. Can you give us some insight on that one? As far as the 1964's are concerned, my experience is that they are probably the 2nd most difficult to find. >>
There were 3 different varieties used for circulation strikes in 1968. Differences between them were minor. All 3 were used for a very limited number of early 1968 S proofs. The great bulk of 1968 S proof production was from what I call a type M. Apparently a circulation hub was taken and touched up to have the relief increased in a very similiar manner to how the type B was created. Except this time it was not noticed until 1986, although I feel it is rather obvious. It accounts for about 75% of the 1968 S production in my decades old experience.
Late in 1968, the mint dug out the old Type B last used in silver days for some of the 1964's. It then had tail feather centerlines added in relief. In that respect, it looked like all the other clads of that period. (Those tail feathers had a redesign in 1993). It was used for about 25 % of the proofs in my experience. (The one offered on ebay claims that it is one out more than 100). This made a total of 5 designs used for the 1968 S. Type M was never used for proofs again. It did end up on a minority of 1969 D, 1970 and 1970 D quarters. It was found on the great majority of 1970 D mint set quarters and now in dealer's stocks. Type B was used on 1969 S thru 1972 S proofs. There is only one type of 1969 Philly and one type of 1969S. 1969 D has the same 5 types as the 1968 S did.
4 1964 D type C's showed up on ebay today. They are AU, MS63, MS64 and MS65. Do NOT include the word "Quarter" in your search. Possibly this may be a flaw in my posting of yesterday. I may have missed some. I only looked at those labeled "Quarter".
I went back tonight and checked how many type B's were offered on Ebay without "quarter" in the description. The table below is arranged by Date, Quarter type B, (no quarter) type B, total of quarter and no quarter combined..
1956 3,0,3 1957 17,3,20 1958 11,1,12 1959 10,2,12 1960 11,9,20 1961 5,1,6 1962 6,1,7 1963 15,4,19 1964 5,1,6 1968 S proof 1 (A minority item but not in the mainstream of collecting at the moment.) 1969D 0 1970D 0 1971D 0 1972D 0
The number of type B offerings on Ebay dropped and then went up to a new high of 110. 1956 5 1957 18 1958 16 1959 14 1960 15 1961 8 1962 9 1963 19 1964 6
<< <i>March 7, 2011 Teletrade 1960 PCGS type B unattributed MS65 $50 >>
And it'll probably stay unattributed if this thread is true since it would mean an additional $58 just to get that attribution added to the slab. >>
Looks like all the unattributed ones I picked up for $10 and lower (lower grades in ANACS) will get cracked out, and tossed into my other raw Washies, make a roll of 40, and presto, they have officially become 90%. No sense attributing anything unattributed in MS65 and lower grades (unless its a '56, '61, '62, or Type C).....grading/attribution prices won't get cheaper down the line. Unless a roll of MS Type B's will bring a premium over regular Washies, lower grades just became expendable, in my eyes. Looks like my unattributed PCGS MS66's will go ATS....maybe I'll see a few 67's.
I keep track of pops...with the exception of 1 '56 (MS64) in Jan, 1 '60 (MS65) in Jan, and 6 Type C's (3 in MS64, 2 in MS63, 1 in AU58) in Jan, there haven't been any Type B's made in 6 months minimum, some dates even longer. Is this due strictly to the mad increase in pricing for grading/attribution, or a combo of not enough nice coins left to make the grade to make it worth the exhorbitant fee? Perhaps ATS's decision to attribute these, coupled with the prohibitive fee here, will perhaps make the value of Type B's from both services more on par. I HAD about 10 crossovers to send in (all MS66...but they'll go elsewhere now, and aside from the few low pop dates, if they aren't slam-dunk 66's, they won't be worth sending in now. Guess my subscription in FLA just got renewed now by default.....
<< <i>March 7, 2011 Teletrade 1960 PCGS type B unattributed MS65 $50 >>
And it'll probably stay unattributed if this thread is true since it would mean an additional $58 just to get that attribution added to the slab. >>
Looks like all the unattributed ones I picked up for $10 and lower (lower grades in ANACS) will get cracked out, and tossed into my other raw Washies, make a roll of 40, and presto, they have officially become 90%. No sense attributing anything unattributed in MS65 and lower grades (unless its a '56, '61, '62, or Type C).....grading/attribution prices won't get cheaper down the line. Unless a roll of MS Type B's will bring a premium over regular Washies, lower grades just became expendable, in my eyes. Looks like my unattributed PCGS MS66's will go ATS....maybe I'll see a few 67's.
I keep track of pops...with the exception of 1 '56 (MS64) in Jan, 1 '60 (MS65) in Jan, and 6 Type C's (3 in MS64, 2 in MS63, 1 in AU58) in Jan, there haven't been any Type B's made in 6 months minimum, some dates even longer. Is this due strictly to the mad increase in pricing for grading/attribution, or a combo of not enough nice coins left to make the grade to make it worth the exhorbitant fee? Perhaps ATS's decision to attribute these, coupled with the prohibitive fee here, will perhaps make the value of Type B's from both services more on par. I HAD about 10 crossovers to send in (all MS66...but they'll go elsewhere now, and aside from the few low pop dates, if they aren't slam-dunk 66's, they won't be worth sending in now. Guess my subscription in FLA just got renewed now by default..... >>
Crossovers do not apply to this hike. The $10 is a reholdering fee for coins that are already in PCGS holders and sent in for variety attribution.
<< <i>March 7, 2011 Teletrade 1960 PCGS type B unattributed MS65 $50 >>
And it'll probably stay unattributed if this thread is true since it would mean an additional $58 just to get that attribution added to the slab. >>
Looks like all the unattributed ones I picked up for $10 and lower (lower grades in ANACS) will get cracked out, and tossed into my other raw Washies, make a roll of 40, and presto, they have officially become 90%. No sense attributing anything unattributed in MS65 and lower grades (unless its a '56, '61, '62, or Type C).....grading/attribution prices won't get cheaper down the line. Unless a roll of MS Type B's will bring a premium over regular Washies, lower grades just became expendable, in my eyes. Looks like my unattributed PCGS MS66's will go ATS....maybe I'll see a few 67's.
I keep track of pops...with the exception of 1 '56 (MS64) in Jan, 1 '60 (MS65) in Jan, and 6 Type C's (3 in MS64, 2 in MS63, 1 in AU58) in Jan, there haven't been any Type B's made in 6 months minimum, some dates even longer. Is this due strictly to the mad increase in pricing for grading/attribution, or a combo of not enough nice coins left to make the grade to make it worth the exhorbitant fee? Perhaps ATS's decision to attribute these, coupled with the prohibitive fee here, will perhaps make the value of Type B's from both services more on par. I HAD about 10 crossovers to send in (all MS66...but they'll go elsewhere now, and aside from the few low pop dates, if they aren't slam-dunk 66's, they won't be worth sending in now. Guess my subscription in FLA just got renewed now by default..... >>
Crossovers do not apply to this hike. The $10 is a reholdering fee for coins that are already in PCGS holders and sent in for variety attribution. >>
NGC now attributes Type Washington's. I do not know what their prices are but the coins DO bring a larger premium over non-attributed Type B's.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>March 7, 2011 Teletrade 1960 PCGS type B unattributed MS65 $50 >>
And it'll probably stay unattributed if this thread is true since it would mean an additional $58 just to get that attribution added to the slab. >>
Looks like all the unattributed ones I picked up for $10 and lower (lower grades in ANACS) will get cracked out, and tossed into my other raw Washies, make a roll of 40, and presto, they have officially become 90%. No sense attributing anything unattributed in MS65 and lower grades (unless its a '56, '61, '62, or Type C).....grading/attribution prices won't get cheaper down the line. Unless a roll of MS Type B's will bring a premium over regular Washies, lower grades just became expendable, in my eyes. Looks like my unattributed PCGS MS66's will go ATS....maybe I'll see a few 67's.
I keep track of pops...with the exception of 1 '56 (MS64) in Jan, 1 '60 (MS65) in Jan, and 6 Type C's (3 in MS64, 2 in MS63, 1 in AU58) in Jan, there haven't been any Type B's made in 6 months minimum, some dates even longer. Is this due strictly to the mad increase in pricing for grading/attribution, or a combo of not enough nice coins left to make the grade to make it worth the exhorbitant fee? Perhaps ATS's decision to attribute these, coupled with the prohibitive fee here, will perhaps make the value of Type B's from both services more on par. I HAD about 10 crossovers to send in (all MS66...but they'll go elsewhere now, and aside from the few low pop dates, if they aren't slam-dunk 66's, they won't be worth sending in now. Guess my subscription in FLA just got renewed now by default..... >>
Crossovers do not apply to this hike. The $10 is a reholdering fee for coins that are already in PCGS holders and sent in for variety attribution. >>
NGC now attributes Type Washington's. I do not know what their prices are but the coins DO bring a larger premium over non-attributed Type B's. >>
But does PCGS attributed bring higher premiums over NGC attributed, because PCGS will bring higer premiums than raw also. If it were a matter of just saving money then would it be smarter to send in a type b in an NGC holder back to NGC for attribution or would the extra money spent to cross to PCGS outweigh the saving by getting a larger premium for the coin?
<<teletrade 4/17 1964 type B sold for 80 dollars. Seems like there getting harder to find. Or are there more new collectors? >>
Maybe "only one finer" than MS65 caught somebody's eye, but that is the NGC world only. On 12 April one of these 1964 B NGC MS 65 sold for $41.50 postpaid on Ebay.
I not to long ago picked up a 1972-D Type B and finally sent to PCGS with a regular submission. Came back as MS64 (Obviously not attributed). Well I am up here doing research and am getting more questions with each one answered. I was wondering a few things:
Has there been any luck getting the cherry pickers guide to recognize this variety? As far as anyone knows, what is the pop or condition census? Any idea for value - any trade hands?
On 5/1/2011, an unattributed (Blue Label) MS65 ANACS 1957 Type B sold for $12.57 (with 7 Bids spread over 6 bidders) And an attributed ICG MS64 1964 Type B sold for $25 (with 8 bids spread over 7 bidders)
On 4/22 an attributed PCGS MS65 1956 sold for $209 and an MS65 1962 sold for $160.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
Strong sales today. On ebay May 8, 2011 a 1961 PCGS MS 65 attributed B reverse sold for $113.50 A 1957 PCGS MS 66 attributed also sold for the same amount $113.50
edited to correct the date on the 2nd sale. It was a 1957, I incorrectly said 1956 in my original post.
I know the fees hold me back from sending them in. I have over 60+ Type-B's mixed dates but will just hold off till they give us a brake on grading fees $45.00 ea is just for crazy.
<< <i>I know the fees hold me back from sending them in. I have over 60+ Type-B's mixed dates but will just hold off till they give us a brake on grading fees $45.00 ea is just for crazy. >>
Depends on what years you have, and what grade you THINK it'd attain.
Also, last night on the 'bay, a '64 Type B in an NGC MS65 holder went for $41.01. In our hosts holder, that would've gone for alot more, seeing there's only one better, in MS66.
Tonight, Wed June 1, a '57 PCGS attributed fetched $160 (w/o the juice)....thebiggest 'hammer' in their last 3 auctions. Not too bad, seeing there are 35 in grade and 9 in 67, and there hasn't been better than an MS65 made in about 10 months (the week of 8/18/2010 there were 3 MS66's made...though only 2 '57's have been graded since then, an MS65 and an MS63).
Still, a very respectable price....and it was blast white. It sat at $85, then there was a last second flurry, that I couldn't keep up with, it was just too close to the final buzzer when the flurry hit. I wonder what an attractively toned example would bring?
Or, to you followers.....was this a case of an inflated price? Or, perhaps, these are starting to, again, be appreciated/desired in higher/highest grades??
I saw that 57 and thought it looked nice. That seems like a pretty good price for a 66. They can keep going for that as far as I'm concerned, maybe it will push up the price of the 67's.
<< <i>I saw that 57 and thought it looked nice. That seems like a pretty good price for a 66. They can keep going for that as far as I'm concerned, maybe it will push up the price of the 67's. >>
I guess someone has at least one of the 9 67's??? lol
<< <i>I saw that 57 and thought it looked nice. That seems like a pretty good price for a 66. They can keep going for that as far as I'm concerned, maybe it will push up the price of the 67's. >>
I guess someone has at least one of the 9 67's??? lol >>
Okay so what is the best avenue to sell my PCGS MS-67 type B Unattributed PCGS coin. Should I get the Type B reverse on it before the sale.
So it would be PCGS MS-67 Type B Reverse, any idea as to a fair asking price? >>
If you plan on auctioning, I would get the TYPE B attributed on the holder. It would add a lot of value to the coin, for some odd reason... since it's the same coin and all.
Okay so what is the best avenue to sell my PCGS MS-67 type B Unattributed PCGS coin. Should I get the Type B reverse on it before the sale.
So it would be PCGS MS-67 Type B Reverse, any idea as to a fair asking price? >>
If you plan on auctioning, I would get the TYPE B attributed on the holder. It would add a lot of value to the coin, for some odd reason... since it's the same coin and all. >>
You can choose to get it attributed if you want. Since it is in a PCGS holder already it will cost $24 for the attribution fee and $10 for a reholder fee. Then you got the shipping fees both ways and the $8 handling fee. This could get a little expensive for one coin. It just depends on what you have in it already.
Ok, don't know who it was that had to beat me out on it, you no good #@!*(*.... ....BUT...
...on Teletrade tonight, an UNATTRIBUTED Type B 1956 PCGS MS66 hammered for $475, not including the 15% juice. I almost made you put up, but with all the fees to get it attributed, I just couldn't justify it pull the trigger. I wish it had been attributed, to get a good gauge on $$, as the PCGS price has gone from $500 in '09 to $900 in '11, and now that the pop could/should rise....but congrats to the winner!! The obverse looks nicely toned....I'm not a toner fan, though that had nothing to do with my not bidding it up. I saw it a week ago, put a max in, hoping it slipped under the radar, but the bid kept climbing every hour, and raised my bid once, but at $500....I walked away, but was surprised to see no action at all for the last 3 or more hours. Again, congrats to the winner!!
Well, I guess some folk noticed it besides the two of us. I didn't bid. I wonder if the owner was surprised by that price. That was quite a sleeper to uncover.
There have been about 10 1964 B's TPG, low initial bid, on Ebay in the last two months. There seems to be a pattern with the prices. ANACS MS64 went for $9.50 + $3.95 and another for $10.50 + $3.95. Both were on 29 June. PCGS MS64 $19.25 + $2.87 on 3 July. NGC MS64 ranged from $12.78 on June 27 to $28.10 on 18 May. NGC MS65 ranged from $41.01 on 8 May to $46.50 on 8 June.
<< <i>Well, I guess some folk noticed it besides the two of us. I didn't bid. I wonder if the owner was surprised by that price. That was quite a sleeper to uncover. >>
I'm going to guess the owner had no clue, and is wondering 'how the hell did this get $475, when they usually fetch $30, approx???' My thoughts are that, if the owner knew what he had, it would have been attributed, and we might not have seen it in this TT auction at all.
<< <i>To bad I missed that 56, I would have been in on the bidding too. >>
Well I was another one helping this coin up to the 400 dollar level. Would have been a nice upgrade from the MS 64 I have. Congrats to the winner................ Enjoy
Comments
Nice looking coin 1tommy.
My mistake. Thought the above was yours, mumu.
<< <i>Well, at least they've incorporated them with the series' registry.
Nice looking coin 1tommy.
My mistake. Thought the above was yours, mumu. >>
Its not mine, I quoted it. But look at the top arrow, it is exposed.
I'm sure it's a Type B though.
I'm sure it's a Type B though.>>
I completely agree. The ES separation is a dead giveaway and I can see some other B characteristics there also.
<< <i><<I see what you mean but it's awful hard to be certain using pics alone.
I'm sure it's a Type B though.>>
I completely agree. The ES separation is a dead giveaway and I can see some other B characteristics there also. >>
the es seperation seems kinda iffy to me too. The leaf to the A looks type b all the way but that top arrow looks exposed to me. You can clearly see the tip if you zoom in on the pic. is it possible the A leaf looks better struck than it is? If you look at the tail feathers they look unreal. in any event, lets say all the type b markers are there but that arrow is exposed, wouldnt that be something new?
There were 70 type B's offered as follows:
1956 1
1957 14
1958 9
1959 8
1960 10
1961 6
1962 4
1963 13
1964 5
Here is a 1957 one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Type-B-Reverse-1957-P-Silver-Washington-Quarter-MS-/360329055042?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item53e5490b42
It is a raw coin at $75, but the text calls it a MS 66 and the picture show a type A!
There is an "AU" for $47.50 that is in much worse shape than one listed as fair for $29.99 or best offer.
There is a 1964 ANACS 63 for $119.95
All in all, there many offers do not seem to be attractive.
I used to be famous now I just collect coins.
Link to My Registry Set.
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-specialty-sets/washington-quarters-complete-variety-set-circulation-strikes-1932-1964/publishedset/78469
Varieties Are The Spice Of LIFE and Thanks to Those who teach us what to search For.
And the description says "Usual type "A."
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And the description says "Usual type "A." >>
than what is it? it shows a breen number is that for a double die? thks
I used to be famous now I just collect coins.
Link to My Registry Set.
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-specialty-sets/washington-quarters-complete-variety-set-circulation-strikes-1932-1964/publishedset/78469
Varieties Are The Spice Of LIFE and Thanks to Those who teach us what to search For.
Breen 4415 is the 1964 D type C.
Breen 4414 is for a 1964 D type B. If nobody has yet found one, I don't think anybody ever will.
1958 ANACS MS60 cleaned $9
Feb 8, 2011 AM - Ebay 84 offerings type B circulation strikes unless otherwise specified
I think these are a pretty good indication of current relative rarity. Over the years I think a lot of 1964's have been melted while 1958's were saved.
1956 3
1957 17
1958 11
1959 10
1960 11
1961 5
1962 6
1963 15
1964 5
1968 S proof 1 (A minority item but not in the mainstream of collecting at the moment.)
1969D 0
1970D 0
1971D 0
1972D 0
There were 3 different varieties used for circulation strikes in 1968. Differences between them were minor. All 3 were used for a very limited number of early 1968 S proofs. The great bulk of 1968 S proof production was from what I call a type M. Apparently a circulation hub was taken and touched up to have the relief increased in a very similiar manner to how the type B was created. Except this time it was not noticed until 1986, although I feel it is rather obvious. It accounts for about 75% of the 1968 S production in my decades old experience.
Late in 1968, the mint dug out the old Type B last used in silver days for some of the 1964's. It then had tail feather centerlines added in relief. In that respect, it looked like all the other clads of that period. (Those tail feathers had a redesign in 1993). It was used for about 25 % of the proofs in my experience. (The one offered on ebay claims that it is one out more than 100). This made a total of 5 designs used for the 1968 S. Type M was never used for proofs again. It did end up on a minority of 1969 D, 1970 and 1970 D quarters. It was found on the great majority of 1970 D mint set quarters and now in dealer's stocks. Type B was used on 1969 S thru 1972 S proofs. There is only one type of 1969 Philly and one type of 1969S. 1969 D has the same 5 types as the 1968 S did.
<< <i>As far as the 1964's are concerned, my experience is that they are probably the 2nd most difficult to find. >>
Try looking for 1961's or 1962's.
Current PCGS Populations rank the 1962 well below the 1964's (62 - 113) and 1961 is just 2 coins back of 1962.
Of course, populations can be a funny thing in that low pops = high prices which in turn, generates more submissions until prices equalize.
The name is LEE!
Possibly this may be a flaw in my posting of yesterday. I may have missed some. I only looked at those labeled "Quarter".
The table below is arranged by Date, Quarter type B, (no quarter) type B, total of quarter and no quarter combined..
1956 3,0,3
1957 17,3,20
1958 11,1,12
1959 10,2,12
1960 11,9,20
1961 5,1,6
1962 6,1,7
1963 15,4,19
1964 5,1,6
1968 S proof 1 (A minority item but not in the mainstream of collecting at the moment.)
1969D 0
1970D 0
1971D 0
1972D 0
1956 5
1957 18
1958 16
1959 14
1960 15
1961 8
1962 9
1963 19
1964 6
There were also
1964 D type C 2
1960 PCGS type B MS66 $200
1960 PCGS type B unattributed MS65 $50
<< <i>March 7, 2011 Teletrade
1960 PCGS type B unattributed MS65 $50 >>
And it'll probably stay unattributed if this thread is true since it would mean an additional $58 just to get that attribution added to the slab.
The name is LEE!
1960 PCGS type B unattributed MS65 $50 >>
And it'll probably stay unattributed if this thread is true since it would mean an additional $58 just to get that attribution added to the slab.>>
Too much $$$.
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<< <i>March 7, 2011 Teletrade
1960 PCGS type B unattributed MS65 $50 >>
And it'll probably stay unattributed if this thread is true since it would mean an additional $58 just to get that attribution added to the slab. >>
Looks like all the unattributed ones I picked up for $10 and lower (lower grades in ANACS) will get cracked out, and tossed into my other raw Washies, make a roll of 40, and presto, they have officially become 90%. No sense attributing anything unattributed in MS65 and lower grades (unless its a '56, '61, '62, or Type C).....grading/attribution prices won't get cheaper down the line. Unless a roll of MS Type B's will bring a premium over regular Washies, lower grades just became expendable, in my eyes. Looks like my unattributed PCGS MS66's will go ATS....maybe I'll see a few 67's.
I keep track of pops...with the exception of 1 '56 (MS64) in Jan, 1 '60 (MS65) in Jan, and 6 Type C's (3 in MS64, 2 in MS63, 1 in AU58) in Jan, there haven't been any Type B's made in 6 months minimum, some dates even longer. Is this due strictly to the mad increase in pricing for grading/attribution, or a combo of not enough nice coins left to make the grade to make it worth the exhorbitant fee? Perhaps ATS's decision to attribute these, coupled with the prohibitive fee here, will perhaps make the value of Type B's from both services more on par. I HAD about 10 crossovers to send in (all MS66...but they'll go elsewhere now, and aside from the few low pop dates, if they aren't slam-dunk 66's, they won't be worth sending in now. Guess my subscription in FLA just got renewed now by default.....
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<< <i>March 7, 2011 Teletrade
1960 PCGS type B unattributed MS65 $50 >>
And it'll probably stay unattributed if this thread is true since it would mean an additional $58 just to get that attribution added to the slab. >>
Looks like all the unattributed ones I picked up for $10 and lower (lower grades in ANACS) will get cracked out, and tossed into my other raw Washies, make a roll of 40, and presto, they have officially become 90%. No sense attributing anything unattributed in MS65 and lower grades (unless its a '56, '61, '62, or Type C).....grading/attribution prices won't get cheaper down the line. Unless a roll of MS Type B's will bring a premium over regular Washies, lower grades just became expendable, in my eyes. Looks like my unattributed PCGS MS66's will go ATS....maybe I'll see a few 67's.
I keep track of pops...with the exception of 1 '56 (MS64) in Jan, 1 '60 (MS65) in Jan, and 6 Type C's (3 in MS64, 2 in MS63, 1 in AU58) in Jan, there haven't been any Type B's made in 6 months minimum, some dates even longer. Is this due strictly to the mad increase in pricing for grading/attribution, or a combo of not enough nice coins left to make the grade to make it worth the exhorbitant fee? Perhaps ATS's decision to attribute these, coupled with the prohibitive fee here, will perhaps make the value of Type B's from both services more on par. I HAD about 10 crossovers to send in (all MS66...but they'll go elsewhere now, and aside from the few low pop dates, if they aren't slam-dunk 66's, they won't be worth sending in now. Guess my subscription in FLA just got renewed now by default..... >>
Crossovers do not apply to this hike. The $10 is a reholdering fee for coins that are already in PCGS holders and sent in for variety attribution.
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<< <i>March 7, 2011 Teletrade
1960 PCGS type B unattributed MS65 $50 >>
And it'll probably stay unattributed if this thread is true since it would mean an additional $58 just to get that attribution added to the slab. >>
Looks like all the unattributed ones I picked up for $10 and lower (lower grades in ANACS) will get cracked out, and tossed into my other raw Washies, make a roll of 40, and presto, they have officially become 90%. No sense attributing anything unattributed in MS65 and lower grades (unless its a '56, '61, '62, or Type C).....grading/attribution prices won't get cheaper down the line. Unless a roll of MS Type B's will bring a premium over regular Washies, lower grades just became expendable, in my eyes. Looks like my unattributed PCGS MS66's will go ATS....maybe I'll see a few 67's.
I keep track of pops...with the exception of 1 '56 (MS64) in Jan, 1 '60 (MS65) in Jan, and 6 Type C's (3 in MS64, 2 in MS63, 1 in AU58) in Jan, there haven't been any Type B's made in 6 months minimum, some dates even longer. Is this due strictly to the mad increase in pricing for grading/attribution, or a combo of not enough nice coins left to make the grade to make it worth the exhorbitant fee? Perhaps ATS's decision to attribute these, coupled with the prohibitive fee here, will perhaps make the value of Type B's from both services more on par. I HAD about 10 crossovers to send in (all MS66...but they'll go elsewhere now, and aside from the few low pop dates, if they aren't slam-dunk 66's, they won't be worth sending in now. Guess my subscription in FLA just got renewed now by default..... >>
Crossovers do not apply to this hike. The $10 is a reholdering fee for coins that are already in PCGS holders and sent in for variety attribution. >>
NGC now attributes Type Washington's. I do not know what their prices are but the coins DO bring a larger premium over non-attributed Type B's.
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>March 7, 2011 Teletrade
1960 PCGS type B unattributed MS65 $50 >>
And it'll probably stay unattributed if this thread is true since it would mean an additional $58 just to get that attribution added to the slab. >>
Looks like all the unattributed ones I picked up for $10 and lower (lower grades in ANACS) will get cracked out, and tossed into my other raw Washies, make a roll of 40, and presto, they have officially become 90%. No sense attributing anything unattributed in MS65 and lower grades (unless its a '56, '61, '62, or Type C).....grading/attribution prices won't get cheaper down the line. Unless a roll of MS Type B's will bring a premium over regular Washies, lower grades just became expendable, in my eyes. Looks like my unattributed PCGS MS66's will go ATS....maybe I'll see a few 67's.
I keep track of pops...with the exception of 1 '56 (MS64) in Jan, 1 '60 (MS65) in Jan, and 6 Type C's (3 in MS64, 2 in MS63, 1 in AU58) in Jan, there haven't been any Type B's made in 6 months minimum, some dates even longer. Is this due strictly to the mad increase in pricing for grading/attribution, or a combo of not enough nice coins left to make the grade to make it worth the exhorbitant fee? Perhaps ATS's decision to attribute these, coupled with the prohibitive fee here, will perhaps make the value of Type B's from both services more on par. I HAD about 10 crossovers to send in (all MS66...but they'll go elsewhere now, and aside from the few low pop dates, if they aren't slam-dunk 66's, they won't be worth sending in now. Guess my subscription in FLA just got renewed now by default..... >>
Crossovers do not apply to this hike. The $10 is a reholdering fee for coins that are already in PCGS holders and sent in for variety attribution. >>
NGC now attributes Type Washington's. I do not know what their prices are but the coins DO bring a larger premium over non-attributed Type B's. >>
But does PCGS attributed bring higher premiums over NGC attributed, because PCGS will bring higer premiums than raw also. If it were a matter of just saving money then would it be smarter to send in a type b in an NGC holder back to NGC for attribution or would the extra money spent to cross to PCGS outweigh the saving by getting a larger premium for the coin?
a 1964 B PCGS 63 sold for $33.
Ebay 26 March 2011
a 1964 B NGC 65 sold for $41.05
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Maybe "only one finer" than MS65 caught somebody's eye, but that is the NGC world only. On 12 April one of these 1964 B NGC MS 65
sold for $41.50 postpaid on Ebay.
Has there been any luck getting the cherry pickers guide to recognize this variety?
As far as anyone knows, what is the pop or condition census?
Any idea for value - any trade hands?
Thanks in advance for any help. Jim
And an attributed ICG MS64 1964 Type B sold for $25 (with 8 bids spread over 7 bidders)
On 4/22 an attributed PCGS MS65 1956 sold for $209 and an MS65 1962 sold for $160.
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edited to correct the date on the 2nd sale. It was a 1957, I incorrectly said 1956 in my original post.
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<< <i>I know the fees hold me back from sending them in. I have over 60+ Type-B's mixed dates but will just hold off till they give us a brake on grading fees $45.00 ea is just for crazy.
Depends on what years you have, and what grade you THINK it'd attain.
Also, last night on the 'bay, a '64 Type B in an NGC MS65 holder went for $41.01. In our hosts holder, that would've gone for alot more, seeing there's only one better, in MS66.
Still, a very respectable price....and it was blast white. It sat at $85, then there was a last second flurry, that I couldn't keep up with, it was just too close to the final buzzer when the flurry hit. I wonder what an attractively toned example would bring?
Or, to you followers.....was this a case of an inflated price? Or, perhaps, these are starting to, again, be appreciated/desired in higher/highest grades??
<< <i>I saw that 57 and thought it looked nice. That seems like a pretty good price for a 66. They can keep going for that as far as I'm concerned, maybe it will push up the price of the 67's. >>
I guess someone has at least one of the 9 67's??? lol
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<< <i>I saw that 57 and thought it looked nice. That seems like a pretty good price for a 66. They can keep going for that as far as I'm concerned, maybe it will push up the price of the 67's. >>
I guess someone has at least one of the 9 67's??? lol >>
I guess I'll try to be more subtle next time.
Okay so what is the best avenue to sell my PCGS MS-67 type B Unattributed PCGS coin. Should I get the Type B reverse on it before the sale.
So it would be PCGS MS-67 Type B Reverse, any idea as to a fair asking price?
<< <i>MD1978, nice Garand!
Okay so what is the best avenue to sell my PCGS MS-67 type B Unattributed PCGS coin. Should I get the Type B reverse on it before the sale.
So it would be PCGS MS-67 Type B Reverse, any idea as to a fair asking price? >>
If you plan on auctioning, I would get the TYPE B attributed on the holder. It would add a lot of value to the coin, for some odd reason... since it's the same coin and all.
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<< <i>MD1978, nice Garand!
Okay so what is the best avenue to sell my PCGS MS-67 type B Unattributed PCGS coin. Should I get the Type B reverse on it before the sale.
So it would be PCGS MS-67 Type B Reverse, any idea as to a fair asking price? >>
If you plan on auctioning, I would get the TYPE B attributed on the holder. It would add a lot of value to the coin, for some odd reason... since it's the same coin and all. >>
You can choose to get it attributed if you want. Since it is in a PCGS holder already it will cost $24 for the attribution fee and $10 for a reholder fee. Then you got the shipping fees both ways and the $8 handling fee. This could get a little expensive for one coin. It just depends on what you have in it already.
...on Teletrade tonight, an UNATTRIBUTED Type B 1956 PCGS MS66 hammered for $475, not including the 15% juice. I almost made you put up, but with all the fees to get it attributed, I just couldn't justify it pull the trigger. I wish it had been attributed, to get a good gauge on $$, as the PCGS price has gone from $500 in '09 to $900 in '11, and now that the pop could/should rise....but congrats to the winner!! The obverse looks nicely toned....I'm not a toner fan, though that had nothing to do with my not bidding it up. I saw it a week ago, put a max in, hoping it slipped under the radar, but the bid kept climbing every hour, and raised my bid once, but at $500....I walked away, but was surprised to see no action at all for the last 3 or more hours. Again, congrats to the winner!!
There have been about 10 1964 B's TPG, low initial bid, on Ebay in the last two months. There seems to be a pattern with the prices.
ANACS MS64 went for $9.50 + $3.95 and another for $10.50 + $3.95. Both were on 29 June.
PCGS MS64 $19.25 + $2.87 on 3 July.
NGC MS64 ranged from $12.78 on June 27 to $28.10 on 18 May.
NGC MS65 ranged from $41.01 on 8 May to $46.50 on 8 June.
<< <i>Well, I guess some folk noticed it besides the two of us. I didn't bid. I wonder if the owner was surprised by that price. That was quite a sleeper to uncover. >>
I'm going to guess the owner had no clue, and is wondering 'how the hell did this get $475, when they usually fetch $30, approx???' My thoughts are that, if the owner knew what he had, it would have been attributed, and we might not have seen it in this TT auction at all.
<< <i>To bad I missed that 56, I would have been in on the bidding too.
Well I was another one helping this coin up to the 400 dollar level. Would have been a nice upgrade from the MS 64 I have. Congrats to the winner................ Enjoy
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