On this Cold & Windy Sunday afternoon at Frigid Soldiers Field...The Bears are hosting the NFC Central Division Leaders...The Detroit Lions... Though Gary Danielson & Barry Sanders wished they were playing in the Cozy Indoors back at the Silver Dome...
On the Lions opening drive...Lions Running Back Barry Sanders was Stopped behind the line of scrimmage being tackled by All Pro Doug Buffone & Mike Hartenstine...
The Bears Quarterback Bob Avellini called an Inside Trap to Hall of Famer Walter Payton and was Stopped by the Lions All Pro Defensive end Al Baker...
The Lions Defensive Coordinator called a Outside Corner Blitz and Avellini was Sacked by Hall of Fame Legend Dick Night Train Lane...
@perkdog Looks like the Patriots have a QB. He made rookie mistakes like Allen did in his first year. Sometimes a throw away is a good thing ( bad INT) and a ball in the dirt to live another day. ( defender in the backfield) results a defensive TD.
He’s gonna learn. Now if they get someone besides Henry he’s got a future
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@2dueces said: @perkdog Looks like the Patriots have a QB. He made rookie mistakes like Allen did in his first year. Sometimes a throw away is a good thing ( bad INT) and a ball in the dirt to live another day. ( defender in the backfield) results a defensive TD.
He’s gonna learn. Now if they get someone besides Henry he’s got a future
I like what I'm seeing from Maye for the most part, although I'm still infuriated by that backwards pass to Stephenson on the their own 5 tat he botched like a clown but overall he is doing the best he can with what he has.
The Krafts are cheap and their scouts cannot evaluate talent so that will continue to be a problem but overall I'm happy with Maye
If it was the Chiefs that beat the Pats by 3 points all the talk would be about how lucky KC is, how the refs gave them the game, how terrible the Chiefs are playing etc. Stevek would be having the time of his life.
But it’s the Bills so everything is good. 👍
@Darin said:
If it was the Chiefs that beat the Pats by 3 points all the talk would be about how lucky KC is, how the refs gave them the game, how terrible the Chiefs are playing etc. Stevek would be having the time of his life.
But it’s the Bills so everything is good. 👍
Buffalo beat us fair and square, I think they played down to our level just because they probably couldn't help but think they were going to have a real easy time, like I told my buddy 45-10 we were going to lose but then before you know it we were up14-0 lol
Buffalo deserves credit for grinding out a come from behind win, that's what good teams do they find a way to win even when they are not playing at the highest level
While I was at physical (Not Mental) therapy today...My Guy Bob who is originally from Buffalo was saying to me that he really doesn't like it when the Bills wear red...
That's when I said to Bob: There's Only One Real Team that wears Red...and they're from the AFC West at 14 - 1...
The season ended for Tampa Bay last night. The loss to Dallas pushed them back into a tie with Atlanta. Atlanta has the tie breaker, and they finally figured out the Curt Cousins is not the answer to their quarterback issue. As I have posted several times. Curt Cousins has always been overrated.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Carolina beats the Bucks. They barely got past the Panthers last time.
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@Darin said:
If it was the Chiefs that beat the Pats by 3 points all the talk would be about how lucky KC is, how the refs gave them the game, how terrible the Chiefs are playing etc. Stevek would be having the time of his life.
But it’s the Bills so everything is good. 👍
Buffalo beat us fair and square, I think they played down to our level just because they probably couldn't help but think they were going to have a real easy time, like I told my buddy 45-10 we were going to lose but then before you know it we were up14-0 lol
Buffalo deserves credit for grinding out a come from behind win, that's what good teams do they find a way to win even when they are not playing at the highest level
Let's see if they play down against the Jets this week.
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@GroceryRackPack said:
While I was at physical (Not Mental) therapy today...My Guy Bob who is originally from Buffalo was saying to me that he really doesn't like it when the Bills wear red...
That's when I said to Bob: There's Only One Real Team that wears Red...and they're from the AFC West at 14 - 1...
Bob said to me: Shut Up and Keep Going...
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It looked like Buffalo had on the old NE jerseys.
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1-That how I was after the Bears & Eagles in '79...
2- They just had a small segment on WGN news about Pete Carroll might/could coach the Bears...If that happens I Might Jump Ship and start watching...I Might...
3- Yes...The Bears Are Awful...
As Brent Musburger would say: You are looking live from L.A. on this Christmas Day...
Jack & Jim Youngblood Putting The Stop on The Hall of Famer Walter Payton...
@perkdog said:
Chiefs look good Baltimore looks good
Pittsburgh and Houston look gross
Shroud. Film and adjustments. The NFL is simple. Tout a rookie as the next Brady. Realize they run a simple offense. Hit him a number of times. Watch the sophomore slump.
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@perkdog said:
Chiefs look good Baltimore looks good
Pittsburgh and Houston look gross
Shroud. Film and adjustments. The NFL is simple. Tout a rookie as the next Brady. Realize they run a simple offense. Hit him a number of times. Watch the sophomore slump.
I think Stroud will be a good QB, but it's alarming to. watch a team literally just look so horrible like that, if Harbaugh wasnt an idiot to run a shotgun based run play like that on the 1 yard line they would have been shut out.
Baltimore pass D is awful and they couldn't exploit that even for one TD
Injuries have affected Houston this season, but they are still a team on the upswing. They were a surprise last season for how quickly they made it to the playoffs, maybe 1-2 years quicker than anyone would have anticipated. If they continue to gain experience they'll be OK. Stroud is the real deal and has a bright future.
@Maywood said:
Injuries have affected Houston this season, but they are still a team on the upswing. They were a surprise last season for how quickly they made it to the playoffs, maybe 1-2 years quicker than anyone would have anticipated. If they continue to gain experience they'll be OK. Stroud is the real deal and has a bright future.
That may be but I said last season to halt the gold jacket talk on Shroud. I’ve been around the NFL for 60 years and seen this happen to a dozen can’t miss QB’s. Sometimes getting pounded in the pocket has an adverse effect regardless the talent. The accuracy last year is just a bit off. The pass is hurried for no reason. The feet get happy and scrambling occurs. Yea Diggs and Dell absence is a problem but Buffalo has zero top receivers and the QB is the difference between 12-3 and 9-7.
This guy was actually giving Williams advice. A little premature, ya think?
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Seattle 6-3 over Chicago. Guess it's not too early for baseball. Monday dud game followed by this classic performance. This is when I am glad I can't see a game like this.
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Pathetic performance by both offenses, both D units should be proud though.
6-3 you don't see that too often, how annoyed are the Bears D letting up only 6 points and your clown show of an offensive unit can only muster 3 points lol
@perkdog said:
Pathetic performance by both offenses, both D units should be proud though.
6-3 you don't see that too often, how annoyed are the Bears D letting up only 6 points and your clown show of an offensive unit can only muster 3 points lol
When Seattle went up 3-0 it was an insurmountable lead that the Bears couldn’t overcome.
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@BLUEJAYWAY said:
Seattle 6-3 over Chicago. Guess it's not too early for baseball. Monday dud game followed by this classic performance. This is when I am glad I can't see a game like this.
people who don't keep up with the Bears probably come to the conclusion that Caleb must suck and he's destined to be a bust. that's a lazy, inaccurate take. the entire organization is broken. the infrastructure is rubble. we have old ownership and a pres & gm who don't see eye-to-eye, to put it mildly. both of those tools need to be drop-kicked into the ether. the head coaches who have been hired since Lovie Smith have been an abomination. i wish i had a dollar for every time i've said "how the f did you ever become an HC in the NFL" while watching a Bears game in the past decade plus. it's like we have a knack for finding the least qualified applicant and incredulously coming to the conclusion that they're the ones deserving of the keys to the car.
as for Caleb, i genuinely feel bad for the kid. remember prior to the draft when there were rumors of his dad not wanting him to be drafted by Chicago? this is why. he did not want his son's career to be wrecked by a franchise with a losing culture. and speaking of quarterbacks whose careers were wrecked, Caleb has been sacked 67 times this season -- most since David Carr. i remember that 2002 season very well, seeing as i live in Houston. Carr was never the same. damn near got killed that year. and that's my biggest fear with CW. i can't begin to tell you how sorry our offensive line is. PFF has them ranked 29th. one idiot o-lineman got yanked from the game permanently last night because he kept killing the team with false starts.
amid him running for his life, a 10-game losing streak and play calls a 5-year-old could dial up, Caleb has played relatively well. he set the rook record for most pass attempts without an INT. prior to the 4th down heave at the end of last night's game when he was once again trying to avoid getting murdered and had no choice but to give a receiver a chance to make a play, he hadn't thrown a pick since the Jacksonville game -- the last game they won back on Oct. 13. think about that. a team loses 10 games in a row and their QB throws one quasi-INT during that stretch. i don't know what that says to any of you guys, but to me that screams a QB with potential who happens to play for a really sh*tty team.
Keenan Allen, Rome Odunze and DJ Moore. legit receivers who should be regularly gashing opposing defenses with chunk plays. but not if you play for the Bears. instead, you're subjected to being the recipient of multiple stupid ass bubble screens every game that go for 2-3 yards. sorry, if you want to exercise your talent and catch 20-yard passes, you're going to have to take your wares elsewhere, cuz we don't do that here. we like to wallow in quicksand and score 3 points against the Seahawks at home.
this is a monumentally improbable if, but IF we hire the right guy -- a brilliant offensive mind who will help Caleb and the O max out, to be more specific -- a light will flash at the end of the tunnel. imo we need to do whatever it takes to wrestle Ben Johnson away from the Lions. a blank check, hookers, blow, whatever he wants.
Caleb came into the best situation any 1-1 Qb has come into with multiple significant weapons on a team that should have made the playoffs.
Daniels and Maye were both better with much less around them,
The big question is if Calebs failures on a team with weapons are the result of the franchise than why are other QBs that go into dumpster fires that have nothing around them the reason for failure that people pile on?
@galaxy27 said:
people who don't keep up with the Bears probably come to the conclusion that Caleb must suck and he's destined to be a bust. that's a lazy, inaccurate take. the entire organization is broken. the infrastructure is rubble. we have old ownership and a pres & gm who don't see eye-to-eye, to put it mildly. both of those tools need to be drop-kicked into the ether. the head coaches who have been hired since Lovie Smith have been an abomination. i wish i had a dollar for every time i've said "how the f did you ever become an HC in the NFL" while watching a Bears game in the past decade plus. it's like we have a knack for finding the least qualified applicant and incredulously coming to the conclusion that they're the ones deserving of the keys to the car.
as for Caleb, i genuinely feel bad for the kid. remember prior to the draft when there were rumors of his dad not wanting him to be drafted by Chicago? this is why. he did not want his son's career to be wrecked by a franchise with a losing culture. and speaking of quarterbacks whose careers were wrecked, Caleb has been sacked 67 times this season -- most since David Carr. i remember that 2002 season very well, seeing as i live in Houston. Carr was never the same. damn near got killed that year. and that's my biggest fear with CW. i can't begin to tell you how sorry our offensive line is. PFF has them ranked 29th. one idiot o-lineman got yanked from the game permanently last night because he kept killing the team with false starts.
amid him running for his life, a 10-game losing streak and play calls a 5-year-old could dial up, Caleb has played relatively well. he set the rook record for most pass attempts without an INT. prior to the 4th down heave at the end of last night's game when he was once again trying to avoid getting murdered and had no choice but to give a receiver a chance to make a play, he hadn't thrown a pick since the Jacksonville game -- the last game they won back on Oct. 13. think about that. a team loses 10 games in a row and their QB throws one quasi-INT during that stretch. i don't know what that says to any of you guys, but to me that screams a QB with potential who happens to play for a really sh*tty team.
Keenan Allen, Rome Odunze and DJ Moore. legit receivers who should be regularly gashing opposing defenses with chunk plays. but not if you play for the Bears. instead, you're subjected to being the recipient of multiple stupid ass bubble screens every game that go for 2-3 yards. sorry, if you want to exercise your talent and catch 20-yard passes, you're going to have to take your wares elsewhere, cuz we don't do that here. we like to wallow in quicksand and score 3 points against the Seahawks at home.
this is a monumentally improbable if, but IF we hire the right guy -- a brilliant offensive mind who will help Caleb and the O max out, to be more specific -- a light will flash at the end of the tunnel. imo we need to do whatever it takes to wrestle Ben Johnson away from the Lions. a blank check, hookers, blow, whatever he wants.
No offensive line = bad QB.
I said this time and time again during Kirk Cousins' first years in Minnesota.
Caleb has some good moves to avoid some sacks, imagine the number of sacks if he was a statue like Cousins.
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People were wondering what was wrong with Mahomes for most of the season. One thing basically… his left tackle was inviting opposing players to go up and sit on Mahomes lap like he was Santa Claus. As a result Patrick has a career high in sacks at 36. At its worst they had him taking the snap and immediately rolling right so he could get a running start away from the left side pass rush. The last couple games it wasn’t an issue and all the sudden Mahomes looks like his old self. It’s not rocket science, if a veteran like Mahomes has defenders coming after him constantly and struggles against that much pressure, imagine a rookie like Caleb who has been sacked almost twice as many times as Mahomes.
So I’ll agree with Galaxy on this one, until the Bears provide decent pass protection for Caleb we don’t know how good he can be yet.
Caleb's problem, besides the bad OL, is that he holds the ball too long. He was very slow in college getting rid of it and is 4th slowest in the NFL. Chicago hasn't done anything to help with that as well. They should've brought in a gap veteran to let Williams develop instead of taking 75 sacks.
Williams hasn’t been as bad as it looks but when you contemplate asking for a piece of the franchise that’s drafting you and this is the results it leaves a stink that will never wash away
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@perkdog said:
I don't follow the Bears so other than the stat lines on CBS sports I don't know a thing about their situation
Looking at his stats he is not the problem I will say that much
I have only seen him play twice against the Vikings and the Packers contest.
He has great legs and makes some very nice throws while on the run. He misses a lot of throws when he has good protection and an open receiver.
The Bears lost 3 tough games in a row to Lions, Vikes and Packers weeks 11-13. It seems like they haven't played well as a team since then. Not blaming Caleb, just an observation.
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Watching what has happened to the Bears in Chicago must have been tough this season, maybe even from a few seasons. I'm a Browns fan so I can tell you a few stories if you get bored. Chew on this:
--- from October 18, 2015 until September 16, 2018 the Cleveland Browns record was 0-27-1.
That's almost 3 years with the highlight being a 21-21 tie in OT with the Steelers!! It's hard for me to feel sorry or even a little sad for anyone's team enduring hardship. When I hear @perkdog complain about the Patriots or everyone hoping the Bills get another shot in the Super Bowl I just smile.
There are 32 teams in the NFL. If the Super Bowl wins were evenly distributed between all the teams, every fan would get a championship over a 32 year period. It doesn’t work that way, of course. There are dynasty teams, New England and Kansas City, who piled up a string of wins. There are franchises that are perpetual losers.
By the looks of things, the Patriots are now in the perpetual losers category. At my age, I think I have seen my last Patriots Super Bowl win. The owner seems to have decided to pack it in. That’s okay because it was a fun run. Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski Hallmark figures bring back fond memories on my Christmas tree. Now I can follow the Eagles and Bucks with lesser interest in the Ravens and Steelers.
Much of the fate for losers lies with ownership, coaching, personnel decisions and draft picks. Luck has something to do with it, but poor management is largely responsible for bad seasons year after year. I agree with the fans of those teams who have no sympathy for the winning teams who have gone sour.
This year I would not be sad if Detroit won it all. Their fans have been long suffering. On the other hand, I’d like to see Kansas City run out of horseshoes, like New England has.
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@Maywood said:
Watching what has happened to the Bears in Chicago must have been tough this season, maybe even from a few seasons. I'm a Browns fan so I can tell you a few stories if you get bored. Chew on this:
--- from October 18, 2015 until September 16, 2018 the Cleveland Browns record was 0-27-1.
That's almost 3 years with the highlight being a 21-21 tie in OT with the Steelers!! It's hard for me to feel sorry or even a little sad for anyone's team enduring hardship. When I hear @perkdog complain about the Patriots or everyone hoping the Bills get another shot in the Super Bowl I just smile.
Losing your original Browns franchise to the Baltimore Ravens had to hurt too. I am sure that Art Model is not among your favorite owners. He is one of the late Howard Cosell’s “carpetbaggers.”
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@BillJones said: poor management is largely responsible for bad seasons year after year.
I think that is partly true but the way the NFL has changed over the past 20-30 years, especially with rule changes, the team structure has been altered. Others have said it better than I can, but without that franchise QB a team is doomed to mediocrity. And the escalating price of that one player does not bode well for the future. Ownership decided quite some time ago to do everything they can to protect that investment with rules which should result in more offense, more points. Despite that, the average team in the NFL struggles to average 21-ppg which has been decreasing in recent years.
@Maywood said: @BillJones said: poor management is largely responsible for bad seasons year after year.
I think that is partly true but the way the NFL has changed over the past 20-30 years, especially with rule changes, the team structure has been altered. Others have said it better than I can, but without that franchise QB a team is doomed to mediocrity. And the escalating price of that one player does not bode well for the future. Ownership decided quite some time ago to do everything they can to protect that investment with rules which should result in more offense, more points. Despite that, the average team in the NFL struggles to average 21-ppg which has been decreasing in recent years.
Yes, a “franchise quarterback” is essential, but the Browns had Baker Mayfield and gave up on him. So did LA. Now he’s the main reason why Tampa Bay is in the hunt. Ditto for Mathew Stafford in Detroit. Bad coaching and poor personnel choices keep your team down.
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@Maywood said: @BillJones said: poor management is largely responsible for bad seasons year after year.
I think that is partly true but the way the NFL has changed over the past 20-30 years, especially with rule changes, the team structure has been altered. Others have said it better than I can, but without that franchise QB a team is doomed to mediocrity. And the escalating price of that one player does not bode well for the future. Ownership decided quite some time ago to do everything they can to protect that investment with rules which should result in more offense, more points. Despite that, the average team in the NFL struggles to average 21-ppg which has been decreasing in recent years.
Yes, a “franchise quarterback” is essential, but the Browns had Baker Mayfield and gave up him. So did LA. Now he’s the main reason why Tampa Bay is in the hunt. Ditto for Mathew Stafford in Detroit. Bad coaching and poor personnel choices keep your team down.
As a Vikings fan, I had the utmost respect for Stafford when he was with Detroit. He was criticized by many as the kind of QB who couldn't win the big game.
He goes to a good team and promptly wins a SB.
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The Stafford hate was never really warranted like the Eli praise wasnt either. Herbert is the Stafford 2.0 where I do want the Chargers to lose every game for Spanos moving the team, but Herbert gets a lot of the blame yet hes elite
So much for the "Tank Theory" that so many fans like to embrace. Two teams near the top of the 2025 NFL Draft Order screwed up today and won: the New York Giants, holding the top pick, were 45-33 winners over the Colts. On top of that the Jaguars and Titans, both with 3-12 records played each other today and the Raiders won, moving two more teams down and reshuffling the top of the Draft.
Now the Patriots hold the top pick with the Titans at No. 2. Keep your eye on the Browns because a loss moves them to 3 and a win drops them to 8. Go Dolphins!!!
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Tough break for Dell again this year. Two receivers in the same area. Looked like the knee cap popped out.
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On this Cold & Windy Sunday afternoon at Frigid Soldiers Field...The Bears are hosting the NFC Central Division Leaders...The Detroit Lions... Though Gary Danielson & Barry Sanders wished they were playing in the Cozy Indoors back at the Silver Dome...
On the Lions opening drive...Lions Running Back Barry Sanders was Stopped behind the line of scrimmage being tackled by All Pro Doug Buffone & Mike Hartenstine...
The Bears Quarterback Bob Avellini called an Inside Trap to Hall of Famer Walter Payton and was Stopped by the Lions All Pro Defensive end Al Baker...
The Lions Defensive Coordinator called a Outside Corner Blitz and Avellini was Sacked by Hall of Fame Legend Dick Night Train Lane...
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Another week, another nervous breakdown.
Go Vikings!
Week 18 is shaping up to be a barn burner with Detroit vs Minny for the division
Yes, hopefully the Vikings beat Green Bay at home next week. A lot of people have the Packers ranked above the Vikes.
@perkdog Looks like the Patriots have a QB. He made rookie mistakes like Allen did in his first year. Sometimes a throw away is a good thing ( bad INT) and a ball in the dirt to live another day. ( defender in the backfield) results a defensive TD.
He’s gonna learn. Now if they get someone besides Henry he’s got a future
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
I like what I'm seeing from Maye for the most part, although I'm still infuriated by that backwards pass to Stephenson on the their own 5 tat he botched like a clown but overall he is doing the best he can with what he has.
The Krafts are cheap and their scouts cannot evaluate talent so that will continue to be a problem but overall I'm happy with Maye
Congrats on the win, see you again in 2 weeks!
If it was the Chiefs that beat the Pats by 3 points all the talk would be about how lucky KC is, how the refs gave them the game, how terrible the Chiefs are playing etc. Stevek would be having the time of his life.
But it’s the Bills so everything is good. 👍
Buffalo beat us fair and square, I think they played down to our level just because they probably couldn't help but think they were going to have a real easy time, like I told my buddy 45-10 we were going to lose but then before you know it we were up14-0 lol
Buffalo deserves credit for grinding out a come from behind win, that's what good teams do they find a way to win even when they are not playing at the highest level
While I was at physical (Not Mental) therapy today...My Guy Bob who is originally from Buffalo was saying to me that he really doesn't like it when the Bills wear red...
That's when I said to Bob: There's Only One Real Team that wears Red...and they're from the AFC West at 14 - 1...
Bob said to me: Shut Up and Keep Going...
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The season ended for Tampa Bay last night. The loss to Dallas pushed them back into a tie with Atlanta. Atlanta has the tie breaker, and they finally figured out the Curt Cousins is not the answer to their quarterback issue. As I have posted several times. Curt Cousins has always been overrated.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Carolina beats the Bucks. They barely got past the Panthers last time.
Let's see if they play down against the Jets this week.
It looked like Buffalo had on the old NE jerseys.
That's Exactly what I thought when I first turned on the TV...
The Saints have a lot of guts fielding such a sorry team. They can't even score the one sided game token TD.
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hey ya Galaxy...
Um... This is gonna be a 3 Parter...
1-That how I was after the Bears & Eagles in '79...
2- They just had a small segment on WGN news about Pete Carroll might/could coach the Bears...If that happens I Might Jump Ship and start watching...I Might...
3- Yes...The Bears Are Awful...
As Brent Musburger would say: You are looking live from L.A. on this Christmas Day...
Jack & Jim Youngblood Putting The Stop on The Hall of Famer Walter Payton...
I just might start watching them again...I might...
Chiefs look good Baltimore looks good
Pittsburgh and Houston look gross
Shroud. Film and adjustments. The NFL is simple. Tout a rookie as the next Brady. Realize they run a simple offense. Hit him a number of times. Watch the sophomore slump.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
I think Stroud will be a good QB, but it's alarming to. watch a team literally just look so horrible like that, if Harbaugh wasnt an idiot to run a shotgun based run play like that on the 1 yard line they would have been shut out.
Baltimore pass D is awful and they couldn't exploit that even for one TD
Injuries have affected Houston this season, but they are still a team on the upswing. They were a surprise last season for how quickly they made it to the playoffs, maybe 1-2 years quicker than anyone would have anticipated. If they continue to gain experience they'll be OK. Stroud is the real deal and has a bright future.
That may be but I said last season to halt the gold jacket talk on Shroud. I’ve been around the NFL for 60 years and seen this happen to a dozen can’t miss QB’s. Sometimes getting pounded in the pocket has an adverse effect regardless the talent. The accuracy last year is just a bit off. The pass is hurried for no reason. The feet get happy and scrambling occurs. Yea Diggs and Dell absence is a problem but Buffalo has zero top receivers and the QB is the difference between 12-3 and 9-7.
This guy was actually giving Williams advice. A little premature, ya think?
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Passing game isn't just throwing and catching, the Texans have had problems with the OL.
I can't handle this one...
I'd rather go Old School...
Seattle 6-3 over Chicago. Guess it's not too early for baseball. Monday dud game followed by this classic performance. This is when I am glad I can't see a game like this.
Pathetic performance by both offenses, both D units should be proud though.
6-3 you don't see that too often, how annoyed are the Bears D letting up only 6 points and your clown show of an offensive unit can only muster 3 points lol
When Seattle went up 3-0 it was an insurmountable lead that the Bears couldn’t overcome.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Whod Seattle bring in for the save lol
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
people who don't keep up with the Bears probably come to the conclusion that Caleb must suck and he's destined to be a bust. that's a lazy, inaccurate take. the entire organization is broken. the infrastructure is rubble. we have old ownership and a pres & gm who don't see eye-to-eye, to put it mildly. both of those tools need to be drop-kicked into the ether. the head coaches who have been hired since Lovie Smith have been an abomination. i wish i had a dollar for every time i've said "how the f did you ever become an HC in the NFL" while watching a Bears game in the past decade plus. it's like we have a knack for finding the least qualified applicant and incredulously coming to the conclusion that they're the ones deserving of the keys to the car.
as for Caleb, i genuinely feel bad for the kid. remember prior to the draft when there were rumors of his dad not wanting him to be drafted by Chicago? this is why. he did not want his son's career to be wrecked by a franchise with a losing culture. and speaking of quarterbacks whose careers were wrecked, Caleb has been sacked 67 times this season -- most since David Carr. i remember that 2002 season very well, seeing as i live in Houston. Carr was never the same. damn near got killed that year. and that's my biggest fear with CW. i can't begin to tell you how sorry our offensive line is. PFF has them ranked 29th. one idiot o-lineman got yanked from the game permanently last night because he kept killing the team with false starts.
amid him running for his life, a 10-game losing streak and play calls a 5-year-old could dial up, Caleb has played relatively well. he set the rook record for most pass attempts without an INT. prior to the 4th down heave at the end of last night's game when he was once again trying to avoid getting murdered and had no choice but to give a receiver a chance to make a play, he hadn't thrown a pick since the Jacksonville game -- the last game they won back on Oct. 13. think about that. a team loses 10 games in a row and their QB throws one quasi-INT during that stretch. i don't know what that says to any of you guys, but to me that screams a QB with potential who happens to play for a really sh*tty team.
Keenan Allen, Rome Odunze and DJ Moore. legit receivers who should be regularly gashing opposing defenses with chunk plays. but not if you play for the Bears. instead, you're subjected to being the recipient of multiple stupid ass bubble screens every game that go for 2-3 yards. sorry, if you want to exercise your talent and catch 20-yard passes, you're going to have to take your wares elsewhere, cuz we don't do that here. we like to wallow in quicksand and score 3 points against the Seahawks at home.
this is a monumentally improbable if, but IF we hire the right guy -- a brilliant offensive mind who will help Caleb and the O max out, to be more specific -- a light will flash at the end of the tunnel. imo we need to do whatever it takes to wrestle Ben Johnson away from the Lions. a blank check, hookers, blow, whatever he wants.
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hey ya Galaxy...
You forgot to mention these other 2 Genius's...
And too... I'm on a Search Mission looking for my Bears sweatshirt from around 89-ish... gimme a few days...
Caleb came into the best situation any 1-1 Qb has come into with multiple significant weapons on a team that should have made the playoffs.
Daniels and Maye were both better with much less around them,
The big question is if Calebs failures on a team with weapons are the result of the franchise than why are other QBs that go into dumpster fires that have nothing around them the reason for failure that people pile on?
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
No offensive line = bad QB.
I said this time and time again during Kirk Cousins' first years in Minnesota.
Caleb has some good moves to avoid some sacks, imagine the number of sacks if he was a statue like Cousins.
People were wondering what was wrong with Mahomes for most of the season. One thing basically… his left tackle was inviting opposing players to go up and sit on Mahomes lap like he was Santa Claus. As a result Patrick has a career high in sacks at 36. At its worst they had him taking the snap and immediately rolling right so he could get a running start away from the left side pass rush. The last couple games it wasn’t an issue and all the sudden Mahomes looks like his old self. It’s not rocket science, if a veteran like Mahomes has defenders coming after him constantly and struggles against that much pressure, imagine a rookie like Caleb who has been sacked almost twice as many times as Mahomes.
So I’ll agree with Galaxy on this one, until the Bears provide decent pass protection for Caleb we don’t know how good he can be yet.
Caleb's problem, besides the bad OL, is that he holds the ball too long. He was very slow in college getting rid of it and is 4th slowest in the NFL. Chicago hasn't done anything to help with that as well. They should've brought in a gap veteran to let Williams develop instead of taking 75 sacks.
@galaxy27 I think I may have found Chicago‘s next coaching staff, they can’t be any worse than this most recent one.
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Williams hasn’t been as bad as it looks but when you contemplate asking for a piece of the franchise that’s drafting you and this is the results it leaves a stink that will never wash away
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I don't follow the Bears so other than the stat lines on CBS sports I don't know a thing about their situation
Looking at his stats he is not the problem I will say that much
hey ya Perkdog...
You're Lucky that you don't have to witness the Bears Nightmares...
Yep they have 1 more then they into Hibernation...
I have only seen him play twice against the Vikings and the Packers contest.
He has great legs and makes some very nice throws while on the run. He misses a lot of throws when he has good protection and an open receiver.
The Bears lost 3 tough games in a row to Lions, Vikes and Packers weeks 11-13. It seems like they haven't played well as a team since then. Not blaming Caleb, just an observation.
Watching what has happened to the Bears in Chicago must have been tough this season, maybe even from a few seasons. I'm a Browns fan so I can tell you a few stories if you get bored. Chew on this:
--- from October 18, 2015 until September 16, 2018 the Cleveland Browns record was 0-27-1.
That's almost 3 years with the highlight being a 21-21 tie in OT with the Steelers!! It's hard for me to feel sorry or even a little sad for anyone's team enduring hardship. When I hear @perkdog complain about the Patriots or everyone hoping the Bills get another shot in the Super Bowl I just smile.
There are 32 teams in the NFL. If the Super Bowl wins were evenly distributed between all the teams, every fan would get a championship over a 32 year period. It doesn’t work that way, of course. There are dynasty teams, New England and Kansas City, who piled up a string of wins. There are franchises that are perpetual losers.
By the looks of things, the Patriots are now in the perpetual losers category. At my age, I think I have seen my last Patriots Super Bowl win. The owner seems to have decided to pack it in. That’s okay because it was a fun run. Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski Hallmark figures bring back fond memories on my Christmas tree. Now I can follow the Eagles and Bucks with lesser interest in the Ravens and Steelers.
Much of the fate for losers lies with ownership, coaching, personnel decisions and draft picks. Luck has something to do with it, but poor management is largely responsible for bad seasons year after year. I agree with the fans of those teams who have no sympathy for the winning teams who have gone sour.
This year I would not be sad if Detroit won it all. Their fans have been long suffering. On the other hand, I’d like to see Kansas City run out of horseshoes, like New England has.
Losing your original Browns franchise to the Baltimore Ravens had to hurt too. I am sure that Art Model is not among your favorite owners. He is one of the late Howard Cosell’s “carpetbaggers.”
@BillJones said: poor management is largely responsible for bad seasons year after year.
I think that is partly true but the way the NFL has changed over the past 20-30 years, especially with rule changes, the team structure has been altered. Others have said it better than I can, but without that franchise QB a team is doomed to mediocrity. And the escalating price of that one player does not bode well for the future. Ownership decided quite some time ago to do everything they can to protect that investment with rules which should result in more offense, more points. Despite that, the average team in the NFL struggles to average 21-ppg which has been decreasing in recent years.
Yes, a “franchise quarterback” is essential, but the Browns had Baker Mayfield and gave up on him. So did LA. Now he’s the main reason why Tampa Bay is in the hunt. Ditto for Mathew Stafford in Detroit. Bad coaching and poor personnel choices keep your team down.
As a Vikings fan, I had the utmost respect for Stafford when he was with Detroit. He was criticized by many as the kind of QB who couldn't win the big game.
He goes to a good team and promptly wins a SB.
The Stafford hate was never really warranted like the Eli praise wasnt either. Herbert is the Stafford 2.0 where I do want the Chargers to lose every game for Spanos moving the team, but Herbert gets a lot of the blame yet hes elite
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
So much for the "Tank Theory" that so many fans like to embrace. Two teams near the top of the 2025 NFL Draft Order screwed up today and won: the New York Giants, holding the top pick, were 45-33 winners over the Colts. On top of that the Jaguars and Titans, both with 3-12 records played each other today and the Raiders won, moving two more teams down and reshuffling the top of the Draft.
Now the Patriots hold the top pick with the Titans at No. 2. Keep your eye on the Browns because a loss moves them to 3 and a win drops them to 8. Go Dolphins!!!