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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,317 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If SB is Bills/Vikes one team will rid the 0-4 tag.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,845 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 3, 2024 7:10PM

    The Rams run into Buffalo which is a problem but Buffalo has the division locked up, they won't lay down but they might take a game off this week after winning the division.

    Then they have the 49'ers who are a dumpster fire and could shut Purdy down to save his shoulder, then the Jets Cards and Seahawks all are winnable games.

    I'm not saying they are a shoo in by any stretch but they don't have the roughest road to get there

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    The Rams run into Buffalo which is a problem but Buffalo has the division locked up, they won't lay down but they might take a game off this week after winning the division.

    Then they have the 49'ers who are a dumpster fire and could shut Purdy down to save his shoulder, then the Jets Cards and Seahawks all are winnable games.

    I'm not saying they are a shoo in by any stretch but they don't have the roughest road to get there

    That Seahawks game could be huge. It would be cool if the winner won the division. Yes the Rams just have to step up and play some really good football down the stretch. They just haven’t shown the ability to win games consistently but certainly that could change these last few games.

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    If SB is Bills/Vikes one team will rid the 0-4 tag.

    If the Chiefs don’t make it I would love that Super Bowl.
    I would be really happy for the winning team and either 2deuces or JoeBanzai but I would also feel really bad for the losing side going 0-5.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,317 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    If SB is Bills/Vikes one team will rid the 0-4 tag.

    If the Chiefs don’t make it I would love that Super Bowl.
    I would be really happy for the winning team and either 2deuces or JoeBanzai but I would also feel really bad for the losing side going 0-5.

    The media would have a field day dredging up the history and heartbreak of those previous losses by both teams.

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  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,885 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    If SB is Bills/Vikes one team will rid the 0-4 tag.

    If the Chiefs don’t make it I would love that Super Bowl.
    I would be really happy for the winning team and either 2deuces or JoeBanzai but I would also feel really bad for the losing side going 0-5.

    I'm 67 and been dying with the Vikings for a long time.
    If 2deuces is older, I'll defer to him!

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's almost like Detroit fans deserve one as bad as Buffalo and Minnesota

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Darin said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    If SB is Bills/Vikes one team will rid the 0-4 tag.

    If the Chiefs don’t make it I would love that Super Bowl.
    I would be really happy for the winning team and either 2deuces or JoeBanzai but I would also feel really bad for the losing side going 0-5.

    I'm 67 and been dying with the Vikings for a long time.
    If 2deuces is older, I'll defer to him!

    68 but I consider you as much a die hard as I am. I was at the last Bills championship game win against the Chargers 20-7 in 1964
    I was also in Tampa SB XXV, wide right.

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:
    MVP race basically boils down to Josh and Saquon now. And it usually goes to a QB.
    If Josh wins MVP and Bills win SB we should have perfect launch conditions on his rookie cards.

    Oh my. Talk about a win, win, win! Only one team wins the Super Bowl every year. I’m just hoping one of these years the die hard fans are rewarded with just one. Just one!

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,885 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    It's almost like Detroit fans deserve one as bad as Buffalo and Minnesota

    Yes, I mentioned that in another post.

    For 10 straight seasons (1968-77) the Vikings went 18-2 against the Lions including a streak of 13 wins in a row.

    We failed to win the big game during that time. 😞

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  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,885 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 4, 2024 6:00AM

    @2dueces said:

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Darin said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    If SB is Bills/Vikes one team will rid the 0-4 tag.

    If the Chiefs don’t make it I would love that Super Bowl.
    I would be really happy for the winning team and either 2deuces or JoeBanzai but I would also feel really bad for the losing side going 0-5.

    I'm 67 and been dying with the Vikings for a long time.
    If 2deuces is older, I'll defer to him!

    68 but I consider you as much a die hard as I am. I was at the last Bills championship game win against the Chargers 20-7 in 1964
    I was also in Tampa SB XXV, wide right.

    We're OLD.

    Your dad(?) must have been a big fan too?

    I didn't go to many games growing up, my dad took me hunting and fishing instead. I remember trying to listen to the Vikes in the car while grouse hunting.
    Good times with the "old man". I miss him.

    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @perkdog said:
    It's almost like Detroit fans deserve one as bad as Buffalo and Minnesota

    Yes, I mentioned that in another post.

    For 10 straight seasons (1968-77) the Vikings went 18-2 against the Lions including a streak of 13 wins in a row.

    We failed to win the big game during that time. 😞

    It's a shame that they couldn't pull one off in the 70's , they were a solid team

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,885 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @perkdog said:
    It's almost like Detroit fans deserve one as bad as Buffalo and Minnesota

    Yes, I mentioned that in another post.

    For 10 straight seasons (1968-77) the Vikings went 18-2 against the Lions including a streak of 13 wins in a row.

    We failed to win the big game during that time. 😞

    It's a shame that they couldn't pull one off in the 70's , they were a solid team

    Never had that stud running back.

    I'll match the defense up against any other team from 1969-1975. They were top 3 in points allowed every year but 1972, best in points given up from 1969-1971.

    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can remember wanting Buffalo to beat Dallas so badly in both the 92 and 93 super bowls. one of them, kelly went down around halftime and I think it was Frank Ritch that finished the rest of the game.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,845 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 4, 2024 7:35AM

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @perkdog said:

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @perkdog said:
    It's almost like Detroit fans deserve one as bad as Buffalo and Minnesota

    Yes, I mentioned that in another post.

    For 10 straight seasons (1968-77) the Vikings went 18-2 against the Lions including a streak of 13 wins in a row.

    We failed to win the big game during that time. 😞

    It's a shame that they couldn't pull one off in the 70's , they were a solid team

    Never had that stud running back.

    I'll match the defense up against any other team from 1969-1975. They were top 3 in points allowed every year but 1972, best in points given up from 1969-1971.

    Chick Foreman was a great running back, thought he had multiple thousand yard seasons in the mid 70's

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,171 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As a Denver fan I can relate to what Bills and Vikings fans are experiencing.

    Denver was 0-4 in Super Bowl games, losing to Dallas, the New York Giants, Washington and San Francisco. Each game was never close. It was terrible to experience as a Denver fan.

    When Denver finally won the 1998 Super Bowl, defeating Green Bay the feeling was one of joy and relief.

    Fans of Buffalo and Minnesota are still waiting to win a Super Bowl after going 0-4. Their wait is much longer than my wait for a Denver win. It will happen and when it does fans of these teams will experience joy and relief at a level they will marvel at.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I still remember 2001 when the Pats beat the Rams, it was unbelievable

    We were only 0-2 at that point but still to get that first Championship is AWESOME!

  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really do not want the Vikings go to the show... They're Too Expensive as it is...and Yes I'm talking/typing about 🔌🏈
    🤣😭😂🙃

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    I still remember 2001 when the Pats beat the Rams, it was unbelievable

    We were only 0-2 at that point but still to get that first Championship is AWESOME!

    I agree. it was an unbelievable feeling. It was such an upset against the greatest show on turf that year. Honestly, I thought at the time it would be a one off and I was fine with it. I never would have dreamed we would get to so many and win 5 more.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,885 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @perkdog said:

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @perkdog said:
    It's almost like Detroit fans deserve one as bad as Buffalo and Minnesota

    Yes, I mentioned that in another post.

    For 10 straight seasons (1968-77) the Vikings went 18-2 against the Lions including a streak of 13 wins in a row.

    We failed to win the big game during that time. 😞

    It's a shame that they couldn't pull one off in the 70's , they were a solid team

    Never had that stud running back.

    I'll match the defense up against any other team from 1969-1975. They were top 3 in points allowed every year but 1972, best in points given up from 1969-1971.

    Chick Foreman was a great running back, thought he had multiple thousand yard seasons in the mid 70's

    He was very good, but more of a finesse runner. Very good pass catcher.

    His first year was 1973, so a little late for the top Vikings defensive teams.

    In 1975 & 1976 he had over 1700 yards from scrimmage each year. He got hurt (foot injury, I think) and had a short career.

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Jaguars QB Trevor Lawrence placed on IR after concussion on hit by Texans' Azeez Al-Shaair, set for season-ending surgery"

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,845 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 4, 2024 6:33PM

    @stevek said:
    "Jaguars QB Trevor Lawrence placed on IR after concussion on hit by Texans' Azeez Al-Shaair, set for season-ending surgery"

    He is getting shoulder surgery which probably wouldn't have happened until after the season had he not gotten the concussion so it's probably a smart decision to IR him, he will be out for 4 games so he probably won't play week 18 so I'd say he is done for the season.

    Meanwhile the Jags will most likely get a top 3 or 4 pick or better draft pick because they probably won't win another game so it's a smart football decision overall.

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    His hair will be well rested for 2025.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Detroit vs Green Bay tonight, should be a great game with a statement made by the winner

    If Green Bay wins they are definitely in the conversation as a contender

  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lions & Packers...🔌🏈

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @2dueces said:

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Darin said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    If SB is Bills/Vikes one team will rid the 0-4 tag.

    If the Chiefs don’t make it I would love that Super Bowl.
    I would be really happy for the winning team and either 2deuces or JoeBanzai but I would also feel really bad for the losing side going 0-5.

    I'm 67 and been dying with the Vikings for a long time.
    If 2deuces is older, I'll defer to him!

    68 but I consider you as much a die hard as I am. I was at the last Bills championship game win against the Chargers 20-7 in 1964
    I was also in Tampa SB XXV, wide right.

    We're OLD.

    Your dad(?) must have been a big fan too?

    I didn't go to many games growing up, my dad took me hunting and fishing instead. I remember trying to listen to the Vikes in the car while grouse hunting.
    Good times with the "old man". I miss him.

    My father was one of the first to buy season tickets for the Bills in 1959. Some of my best memories were going to the rock pile and watching the Bills with my father.

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What year are those Packers?

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Detroit 31
    Green Bay 20

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Green Bay 29
    Detroit 23

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,885 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bgr said:
    Green Bay 29
    Detroit 23

    Go Pack!

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  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bgr said:
    What year are those Packers?

    Hong Kong Molded Amber between 1970 to 1972...
    🔌🏈

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So tonight is the first time I’ve watched the game in Prime Vision. It’s pretty cool and I suggest checking it out.

    Go to alternate broadcasts if you want to see it.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 5, 2024 8:32PM

    i bet if Dan Campbell had 4th and 33 from his own 1 he'd contemplate going for it for at least 5 seconds

    dude's balls are bigger than a whale's

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,317 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    i bet if Dan Campbell had 4th and 33 from his own 1 he'd contemplate going for it for at least 5 seconds

    dude's balls are bigger than a whale's

    It's almost like with GB you can bet the coach. The guy is a heck of a motivator. How much he has left in the tank and can he keep it up is the key.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,845 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 6, 2024 10:18AM

    Dan Campbell is playing a very dangerous game.

    The potential for these type of decisions blowing up in your face is real, look at last night when Goff tripped, he very easily could have not made that handoff and then they go to OT if Green Bay doesn't win it.

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    Dan Campbell is playing a very dangerous game.

    The potential for these type of decisions blowing up in your face is real, look at last night when Goff tripped, he very easily could have not made that handoff and then they go to OSt if Green Bay doesn't win it.

    It’s going to cost them a playoff game. Then instead of huge balls everyone will be on him.
    But he’s been consistent so Lions fans expect it. I doubt the Lions fans will be on him, just all the talking heads

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • fergie23fergie23 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭✭

    Allen/Mahomes feels like the Brady/Manning rivalry, especially where Brady won the first few playoff games. I think this is the year Allen has to get over the hump against Mahomes/Chiefs in the playoffs.

    The Chiefs are very vulnerable this year and the Bills definitely had addition by subtraction getting rid of Diggs.

    That said, I am still rooting for Mahomes. I want him to challenge Brady's legacy and a three-peat would definitely start changing the conversation. It seems highly unlikely Mahomes will have Brady's longevity, so I think he needs to accomplish more during his peak to offset how dominant Brady was for so long.

    Robb

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,845 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 6, 2024 6:51AM

    @2dueces said:

    @perkdog said:
    Dan Campbell is playing a very dangerous game.

    The potential for these type of decisions blowing up in your face is real, look at last night when Goff tripped, he very easily could have not made that handoff and then they go to OSt if Green Bay doesn't win it.

    It’s going to cost them a playoff game. Then instead of huge balls everyone will be on him.
    But he’s been consistent so Lions fans expect it. I doubt the Lions fans will be on him, just all the talking heads

    It already cost them last year against SF going for it on 4th instead of kicking FG's

    Come playoff time he best smarten up or they potentially will lose over it again

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 6, 2024 7:36AM

    as a fan of a team that regularly hires brain-dead individuals who often coach not to lose and royally f everything up, i find Campbell very refreshing. if the dude goes down in flames, it's gonna happen as he's flooring it. there's no doubting how much confidence he has in his players, and i'm sure every one of those Lions would run through a brick wall for him. and perhaps that's why they execute so well out on the field. there are never any questions with him -- he believes in you, you know your job, go do it. it's gotta be hella fun playing for him.

    now juxtapose that with my team. instead of extending our middle finger to conventional wisdom by going for it on 4th all the time, punching the opposition in the mouth and winning games, when the Bears drive down the field to do the same we just let the clock run out with a TO in our hip pocket and lose. when i think about that i wanna laugh and cry simultaneously.

    so consider about what it's like to be a Chi fan and then watch a game like last night. in a few weeks i'm gonna shake every present first and say out loud before i open it, "i sure hope a Dan Campbell is in here"

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    can you imagine going gambling with Dan Campbell

    dude is probably incorrigible in a casino

    doubling down on 19 when the dealer is showing a 6

    damn that would be fun to watch with a drink in hand

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,845 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 6, 2024 12:04PM

    @galaxy27 said:
    as a fan of a team that regularly hires brain-dead individuals who often coach not to lose and royally f everything up, i find Campbell very refreshing. if the dude goes down in flames, it's gonna happen as he's flooring it. there's no doubting how much confidence he has in his players, and i'm sure every one of those Lions would run through a brick wall for him. and perhaps that's why they execute so well out on the field. there are never any questions with him -- he believes in you, you know your job, go do it. it's gotta be hella fun playing for him.

    now juxtapose that with my team. instead of extending our middle finger to conventional wisdom by going for it on 4th all the time, punching the opposition in the mouth and winning games, when the Bears drive down the field to do the same we just let the clock run out with a TO in our hip pocket and lose. when i think about that i wanna laugh and cry simultaneously.

    so consider about what it's like to be a Chi fan and then watch a game like last night. in a few weeks i'm gonna shake every present first and say out loud before i open it, "i sure hope a Dan Campbell is in here"

    @galaxy27 said:
    can you imagine going gambling with Dan Campbell

    dude is probably incorrigible in a casino

    doubling down on 19 when the dealer is showing a 6

    damn that would be fun to watch with a drink in hand

    I absolutely do respect the guy but sometimes, like in playoff games the "Rah Rah let's get 'em" thing needs to be put in the hip pocket and take the 3 points when it's staring you in the face.

    Agree with all that you said but the only caveat is sometimes you have to do what's best for the team in a situation.

    Last night wasn't one of those situations, he put the game on his players back and they came through for him and it's a great look but not a great look had Goff fell on his face ( Or any of the million other things that could have gone wrong ). and he didn't get that handoff done correctly which resulted in a Green Bay win they would have survived just fine.

    Playoff time? Not so much

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog

    the sensible side of me totally feels you

    but unfortunately for me i possess a degenerative side that overpowered the sensible side and screamed THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL

    😂

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Packers had some trouble in that game getting their defense set - leading to 2 TDs. Their secondary played OK considering they have a few important pieces on the shelf. I was surprised it wasn't chunk after chunk through the air, but I think that game says more about Detroit than GB there. Getting beat, how they did, against a team which beat them a month ago by 10 points which could have been by 100 considering how that game actually looked didn't feel like that big of a loss considering the situation in the North.

    I also think the 4th and 1 or so from their own 31 earlier that happened to only lead to 3 pts for GB was more shocking to me than the play at the end there. The end of the game - going for the win... love it. Earlier in the quarter... in your own end... going for the loss there... weird move - and that toss play...

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:

    My final thought.
    There’s a difference between being aggressive and being reckless. Some of his decisions are bold and quite a few are risky and reckless

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:

    @galaxy27 said:

    My final thought.
    There’s a difference between being aggressive and being reckless. Some of his decisions are bold and quite a few are risky and reckless

    I thought about this during the game as it was happening, and after the game, and once in a while since then, and it still baffles me. I didn't watch his press conference, perhaps he explained it there.

    I think I might understand some of the reasons why he did it. That being said, none of those reasons equate to the best way of winning a football game.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,317 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Win or lose his aggressiveness is refreshing.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I recall a coach in College a few years ago ( or maybe a few more) that had the philosophy of never punting, ever. Anyone know who it was and where’s he’s coaching girls soccer now?

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
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