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  • Justacommeman
    Justacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    In. Thanks for the heads up!



    mark
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  • jessewvu
    jessewvu Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I got some too. I have been checking his website daily for a while.
  • 7Jaguars
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    Thanks for the alert & got mine.
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
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  • jwitten
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    Just got 3, thank you!
  • Lakesammman
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    Neat - wonder what the production number is??
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  • nk1nk
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    So cool, thanks for the heads up!
  • PRIZ430
    PRIZ430 Posts: 306 ✭✭✭
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    2000 total production
  • PerryHall
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    Originally posted by: PRIZ430

    2000 total production




    What was the total production number for his 1964 Peace dollar?image

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  • PRIZ430
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    The 1964 Peace Dollar total production was 1,964
  • drfish
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    Daniel says combined mintage of bulk and high grade finish Morgans will be 1964
  • OPA
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    $119 for 1 oz silver "fantasy coin" ...
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  • CaptHenway
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    Until just a few months ago we did not know that 1964 Morgan dollar dies exist. Considering the Byzantine secrecy at the U.S. Mint, can we be absolutely certain that no trial trikes of a 1964 Morgan dollar exist in that government storage room seen at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark?"

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  • Justacommeman
    Justacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: CaptHenway

    Until just a few months ago we did not know that 1964 Morgan dollar dies exist. Considering the Byzantine secrecy at the U.S. Mint, can we be absolutely certain that no trial trikes of a 1964 Morgan dollar exist in that government storage room seen at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark?"





    My conscience is clear ; )



    mark
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  • 1940coupe
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    Cant wait for the proof !
  • johnny9434
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    nice fantasy strike.
  • CuKevin
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    Originally posted by: CaptHenway
    Until just a few months ago we did not know that 1964 Morgan dollar dies exist. Considering the Byzantine secrecy at the U.S. Mint, can we be absolutely certain that no trial trikes of a 1964 Morgan dollar exist in that government storage room seen at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark?"


    The dies found recently were unfinished. So at this point, it is safe to say they didn't make any.
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  • Kudbegud
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    Thanks for the heads up Twobitcollertor. I didn't miss this one because of you. Order in process.

  • CaptHenway
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    Originally posted by: CuKevin

    Originally posted by: CaptHenway

    Until just a few months ago we did not know that 1964 Morgan dollar dies exist. Considering the Byzantine secrecy at the U.S. Mint, can we be absolutely certain that no trial trikes of a 1964 Morgan dollar exist in that government storage room seen at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark?"





    The dies found recently were unfinished. So at this point, it is safe to say they didn't make any.




    What do you mean "unfinished?" Explain your comment.
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  • steveben
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    Originally posted by: CaptHenway

    Originally posted by: CuKevin

    Originally posted by: CaptHenway

    Until just a few months ago we did not know that 1964 Morgan dollar dies exist. Considering the Byzantine secrecy at the U.S. Mint, can we be absolutely certain that no trial trikes of a 1964 Morgan dollar exist in that government storage room seen at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark?"





    The dies found recently were unfinished. So at this point, it is safe to say they didn't make any.




    What do you mean "unfinished?" Explain your comment.




    they found hubs and a galvano...no working dies?



  • felinfoel
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    Thanks for the heads up, Twobitcollector! I just bought a few.
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD
    3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Good Lookin Out playa! Just added 1 high grade piece to my collection image
  • PerryHall
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    A little expense but I bought a couple.image

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  • treybenedict
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    Picked up 2, they look great image
  • cheezhed
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    Pricey but I'm in, missed out on the Peace dollars.
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  • Goldbully
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    Just bought two of the high grade.



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  • OPA
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    Originally posted by: PerryHall
    A little expense but I bought a couple.image


    Same here

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  • treybenedict
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    Originally posted by: Goldbully
    Just bought two of the high grade.

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    D_Carr Link


    On the original page where you buy it says limited to 1964 for all strikes. Thanks for posting that info though!
  • CascadeChris
    CascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ordered at 6am. Can't wait to get them in hand!
    The more you VAM..
  • drfish
    drfish Posts: 955 ✭✭✭✭
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    Nice work Dan! Will you be producing proofs or prooflike versions?
  • oldstandard
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    get it sold out keep buying
  • HalfStrike
    HalfStrike Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭
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    cool
  • renman95
    renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Got mine...order #1203x.

    Thx for the heads up 2bit.
  • 19Lyds
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    Originally posted by: CaptHenway

    Until just a few months ago we did not know that 1964 Morgan dollar dies exist. Considering the Byzantine secrecy at the U.S. Mint, can we be absolutely certain that no trial trikes of a 1964 Morgan dollar exist in that government storage room seen at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark?"

    I recalled reading this Tom and I now have concerns.



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  • jessewvu
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    can we be absolutely certain that no trial trikes of a 1964 Morgan dollar exist







    What difference does it make?
  • cameonut2011
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    Originally posted by: jessewvu
    can we be absolutely certain that no trial trikes of a 1964 Morgan dollar exist



    What difference does it make?


    One of his chief arguments is that his pieces are not counterfeits because none of them exist. If a 1964 Morgan exists, its existence would undermine his argument. Of course changing the date isn't enough anyway to change the legal status (either way) so I guess it is a moot point.

  • dcarr
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    Originally posted by: drfish
    Nice work Dan! Will you be producing proofs or prooflike versions?


    Thanks,
    Towards the end of my previous "1964-D" Peace Dollar over-striking I produced some proof-like and matte proof finishes. The Peace design makes for a better matte proof than it does a cameo proof. The Morgan design is the other way around - it looks strange with a matte finish but great as a "DMPL".

    So I will probably make some sort of DMPL version a little later on.

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  • dcarr
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    Originally posted by: 19Lyds
    Originally posted by: CaptHenway
    Until just a few months ago we did not know that 1964 Morgan dollar dies exist. Considering the Byzantine secrecy at the U.S. Mint, can we be absolutely certain that no trial trikes of a 1964 Morgan dollar exist in that government storage room seen at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark?"
    I recalled reading this Tom and I now have concerns.



    There is no indication whatsoever that the US Mint ever struck any 1964 Morgan Dollars. If in the unlikely event that some test strikes were produced, they would have been done at the Philadelphia Mint. As such, they would lack the "D" mint mark that my over-strikes have.
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  • callawayc7
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    Thanks for the heads up! It's a little pricey but such a cool piece, had to get 1.
  • cameonut2011
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    Originally posted by: dcarr
    Originally posted by: 19Lyds
    Originally posted by: CaptHenway
    Until just a few months ago we did not know that 1964 Morgan dollar dies exist. Considering the Byzantine secrecy at the U.S. Mint, can we be absolutely certain that no trial trikes of a 1964 Morgan dollar exist in that government storage room seen at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark?"
    I recalled reading this Tom and I now have concerns.



    There is no indication whatsoever that the US Mint ever struck any 1964 Morgan Dollars. If in the unlikely event that some test strikes were produced, they would have been done at the Philadelphia Mint. As such, they would lack the "D" mint mark that my over-strikes have.


    1964-D Peace Dollar trial strikes were produced in Denver. Why would the Morgan be any different?
  • dcarr
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    Originally posted by: cameonut2011
    Originally posted by: dcarr
    Originally posted by: 19Lyds
    Originally posted by: CaptHenway
    Until just a few months ago we did not know that 1964 Morgan dollar dies exist. Considering the Byzantine secrecy at the U.S. Mint, can we be absolutely certain that no trial trikes of a 1964 Morgan dollar exist in that government storage room seen at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark?"
    I recalled reading this Tom and I now have concerns.



    There is no indication whatsoever that the US Mint ever struck any 1964 Morgan Dollars. If in the unlikely event that some test strikes were produced, they would have been done at the Philadelphia Mint. As such, they would lack the "D" mint mark that my over-strikes have.


    1964-D Peace Dollar trial strikes were produced in Denver. Why would the Morgan be any different?


    I believe the 316,076 1964-D Peace Dollars struck in Denver were intended as actual production coins, not trial strikes. You don't need that many strikes for a trial.

    There is, however, some indication that the Philadelphia Mint struck a few 1964 Peace Dollar trials (without a "D" mint mark).

    Also, no 1964 Morgan Dollar dies were found with a "D" mint mark.

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  • CascadeChris
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    Originally posted by: callawayc7

    Thanks for the heads up! It's a little pricey but such a cool piece, had to get 1.




    Just wait until you see the DMPL prices then lol. In all seriousness though they are not expensive at all in context. Just try getting one for issue price after they sell out
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  • jessewvu
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    Some folks use the same logic here to prove coins exist as folks do to prove Bigfoot exists.

  • PerryHall
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    Originally posted by: CascadeChris

    Originally posted by: callawayc7

    Thanks for the heads up! It's a little pricey but such a cool piece, had to get 1.




    Just wait until you see the DMPL prices then lol. In all seriousness though they are not expensive at all in context. Just try getting one for issue price after they sell out




    If they are anything like the 1964 Peace dollar they will do quite well in the secondary market. Actually when you consider that Morgan dollar collectors are far more numerous than Peace dollar collectors they should do exceptionally well on the secondary market. Obviously, not every Morgan dollar collector will want one but with such a low mintage it won't take many to exhaust the supply. Of course many will be bought by non-Morgan dollar collectors who like unusual and interesting rare coins.

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  • ricko
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    Definitely in.... Cheers, RickO
  • Paulyaces76
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    Dan you don't have to reply to my Cameo e-mail. Kinda got your answer on here, can't wait to see these!
  • pf70collector
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    Bought one to go with the Peace Dollar PL. Looking forward to the DMPL if it doesn't sell out right away.
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  • Booger9989
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    just got 5 of the high grade!!!

    I usually stay away from things like this but its to dam cool not to!

    Time to take some state quarters to the bank before i get an ear full from the wife!
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  • CascadeChris
    CascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Booger9989

    just got 5 of the high grade!!!



    I usually stay away from things like this but its to dam cool not to!



    Time to take some state quarters to the bank before i get an ear full from the wife!




    Lol. Just make sure they're not Rhode Island or New York
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  • illini420
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    Originally posted by: PerryHall


    If they are anything like the 1964 Peace dollar they will do quite well in the secondary market. Actually when you consider that Morgan dollar collectors are far more numerous than Peace dollar collectors they should do exceptionally well on the secondary market. Obviously, not every Morgan dollar collector will want one but with such a low mintage it won't take many to exhaust the supply. Of course many will be bought by non-Morgan dollar collectors who like unusual and interesting rare coins.



    Dan already did a Morgan Dollar overstrike a few years ago, the 1909-o Dollars. Those were and still are quite popular, but they still don't sell for the same levels as the 1964-D Peace Dollars that he did. And less than 600 1909-o Morgan Dollars were made. So just being a Morgan Dollar isn't enough. If that were the case, all else equal, the 1909-o Morgans should be selling for much more than the 1964-D Peace Dollars with their much lower mintages... but that just isn't the case.

    I ordered a few of the 1964 Morgans because I think they are cool, but I don't think they'll match the values of the 1964 Peace Dollars simply because they are Morgans.

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