@perkdog said:
Pats are back but I don’t think they can compete with the BEARS if it came down to it.
fixed.
@perkdog & @erikthredd ...... i'm thinking we need to have a friendly wager scheduled for Oct 21. i have no problem removing J.R. for an entire month and replacing him with an NE-related picture if Chicago can't do the deed...
I'm down. Straight up win for a month? Just make sure Mack knows Brady has to still be breathing when it ends lol
@perkdog said:
Pats are back but I don’t think they can compete with the BEARS if it came down to it.
fixed.
@perkdog & @erikthredd ...... i'm thinking we need to have a friendly wager scheduled for Oct 21. i have no problem removing J.R. for an entire month and replacing him with an NE-related picture if Chicago can't do the deed...
Galaxy, if your serious then I will put up a Bears avatar against a Pats for a full month buddy! Challenge offered and the football is in your court my friend!
since it's 1 against 2, if the Bears lose i'll put up a Pats av until Christmas, which is roughly two months. and if they win, you guys only have to suffer for a month apiece.
and hopefully everyone will provoke you guys to post as much as possible over those 30 days.
edit: on 11/11 the Dallas Cowboys play the Philadelphia Eagles. i'm thinking two other gentlemen from this forum should follow in our footsteps...
since it's 1 against 2, if the Bears lose i'll put up a Pats av until Christmas, which is roughly two months. and if they win, you guys only have to suffer for a month apiece.
and hopefully everyone will provoke you guys to post as much as possible over those 30 days.
edit: on 11/11 the Dallas Cowboys play the Philadelphia Eagles. i'm thinking two other gentlemen from this forum should follow in our footsteps...
I know you're not thinking of me because you used the word "gentlemen" (LOL), but i brought up this subject in the pre-season. If that Cowboys fan, I forget his name but I think he collects dimes, would enjoy participating in an avatar bet, then I would be happy to oblige.
Beware to those doing this for the first time. It is not for the timid or weak. Losing an avatar bet is a most humiliating, degrading, and painful experience. It could mentally ruin you for the rest of your life, and no therapeutic or psychiatric treatment currently known to mankind can help you recover from it.
Of course the Eagles kicking the Cowboys arze will be no problem, so i've got nothing to worry about.
since it's 1 against 2, if the Bears lose i'll put up a Pats av until Christmas, which is roughly two months. and if they win, you guys only have to suffer for a month apiece.
and hopefully everyone will provoke you guys to post as much as possible over those 30 days.
edit: on 11/11 the Dallas Cowboys play the Philadelphia Eagles. i'm thinking two other gentlemen from this forum should follow in our footsteps...
They did all they could to give that gaem to the Ravens but the Ravens wanted none of it, lol..
John Brown had 14 targets and only 4 receptions. Geez.
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Well, its always a good day when the Raiders lose, and having Gruden at the helm
just doubles the enjoyment. Nice to see them in the cellar of the AFC west, they might
as well make themselves comfortable because its going to be a season long stay.
Yes, it will tough buying out nine years of Gruden's ten year contract. This has to be the worst coaching deal since the Philadelphia Eagles signed Joe Kuherric (so) to a long term deal in the late 1960s.
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time for a pop quiz. i've provided ample clues for you to ace it. if you still find a way to answer incorrectly, then it's time for you to stop watching football and start playing canasta with coinstartled instead. simply fill in the blanks.
yesterday, the Raiders were down 20-3 late in the 3rd. they had the ball 1st and goal at the Chargers' 1. Marshawn Lynch was in the backfield. 10-year, $100 million man Jon G called a _____ play and the end result was a/an ______.
@galaxy27 said:
time for a pop quiz. i've provided ample clues for you to ace it. if you still find a way to answer incorrectly, then it's time for you to stop watching football and start playing canasta with coinstartled instead. simply fill in the blanks.
yesterday, the Raiders were down 20-3 late in the 3rd. they had the ball 1st and goal at the Chargers' 1. Marshawn Lynch was in the backfield. 10-year, $100 million man Jon G called a _____ play and the end result was a/an ______.
@galaxy27 said:
time for a pop quiz. i've provided ample clues for you to ace it. if you still find a way to answer incorrectly, then it's time for you to stop watching football and start playing canasta with coinstartled instead. simply fill in the blanks.
yesterday, the Raiders were down 20-3 late in the 3rd. they had the ball 1st and goal at the Chargers' 1. Marshawn Lynch was in the backfield. 10-year, $100 million man Jon G called a _____ play and the end result was a/an ______.
cutesy
uncutesy
i sometimes wonder if decisions like this are ascribed to sleep deprivation
5:20
(keep an eye on Lynch after the play -- he almost launches his helmet like a hand grenade)
Had to hedge my bets a little, bought an auto QB rookie card and it wasn't Mahomes this time.LOL
Has a really good chance to win the super bowl and his cards are actually cheaper than Mahomes' cards.
The two shall meet in Mexico City in a few weeks.
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Barkley has played in five NFL games. In three of those games he has rushed for less than 50 yards. In his first game, it may have also been less than 50 yards except for one long run. These stats so far are not why you select a running back as the #2 overall pick in the draft.
His receiving yardage is all well and good. But you draft a running back that high to run the football if you want to have a winning football team.
Am i labeling Barkley a bust? Of course not. However the fact is that after five games this season, the Giants are tied for the worst record in the NFL.
The Giants are 1-4 and unless they catch some lucky breaks tonight, after the game is over they will be 1-5.
i'll be more than happy to analyze with you. he's on pace for 986 rushing yards, 877 receiving yards and 16 total trips to the house on an abysmal team. for a rookie campaign, i'm more than pleased with those numbers if i'm in any way associated with the Giants.
when i was clamoring for NY to select him in the draft, i never once said he was going to be the panacea. the Giants are leaking oil in more areas than one. but if i'm the midst of revamping an NFL team, i want Barkley. every time i have seen him in action this season, he has passed the eye test with flying colors. he's a freak of nature who possesses a unparalleled skill set. if the kid can stay healthy, he's going to be special.
i will agree with you when it comes to Eli.........he's running on fumes. so when the next draft rolls around, address that oil leak by drafting his successor. but this is a multi-year renovation project, so why not take the best possible athlete in year one? someone, mind you, who would fill a glaring void at a skill position? i'm not too terribly familiar with the QBs & RBs entering next year's draft, but i'd be willing to bet that drafting a back similar to Barkley will be a much tougher chore than selecting a QB who rivals Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, or Rosen.
Steve, New York could have grabbed a QB at #2 instead of Barkley and he'd be holding Eli's clipboard right now while the team was still 1-4 after 5 games. NY's backup QB hasn't played a single snap yet and a rookie QB would not have had a bigger impact than Barkley has had so far,
I hate the Giants but I will give credit where credit is due, Barkley has great overall numbers so far for a rookie RB on a horrendous team with a horrendous OL. I would have taken a QB/OL/CB before a RB though
@galaxy27 said:
i'll be more than happy to analyze with you. he's on pace for 986 rushing yards, 877 receiving yards and 16 total trips to the house on an abysmal team. for a rookie campaign, i'm more than pleased with those numbers if i'm in any way associated with the Giants.
when i was clamoring for NY to select him in the draft, i never once said he was going to be the panacea. the Giants are leaking oil in more areas than one. but if i'm the midst of revamping an NFL team, i want Barkley. every time i have seen him in action this season, he has passed the eye test with flying colors. he's a freak of nature who possesses a unparalleled skill set. if the kid can stay healthy, he's going to be special.
i will agree with you when it comes to Eli.........he's running on fumes. so when the next draft rolls around, address that oil leak by drafting his successor. but this is a multi-year renovation project, so why not take the best possible athlete in year one? someone, mind you, who would fill a glaring void at a skill position? i'm not too terribly familiar with the QBs & RBs entering next year's draft, but i'd be willing to bet that drafting a back similar to Barkley will be a much tougher chore than selecting a QB who rivals Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, or Rosen.
Spot on analysis.
In today's NFL, it's about all purpose yards from scrimmage, not just rushing yards.
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NY drafted Davis Webb last season in the 3rd and Kyle Lauletta in this past draft in the 4th,they have their developmental QB to sit behind Eli and learn. The only way I see NY grabbing another QB with a high 1st in this next draft is if they decide to move on from Eli this offseason.
@erikthredd said:
NY drafted Davis Webb last season in the 3rd and Kyle Lauletta in this past draft in the 4th,they have their developmental QB to sit behind Eli and learn. The only way I see NY grabbing another QB with a high 1st in this next draft is if they decide to move on from Eli this offseason.
And I hope they stick with Eli so they can continue to play bad football.
@erikthredd said:
NY drafted Davis Webb last season in the 3rd and Kyle Lauletta in this past draft in the 4th,they have their developmental QB to sit behind Eli and learn. The only way I see NY grabbing another QB with a high 1st in this next draft is if they decide to move on from Eli this offseason.
And I hope they stick with Eli so they can continue to play bad football.
his deal runs out after 2019. he's due to make 23M in 2018 & 2019.
@erikthredd said:
NY drafted Davis Webb last season in the 3rd and Kyle Lauletta in this past draft in the 4th,they have their developmental QB to sit behind Eli and learn. The only way I see NY grabbing another QB with a high 1st in this next draft is if they decide to move on from Eli this offseason.
And I hope they stick with Eli so they can continue to play bad football.
I've got no problem at all with Barkley. The problem is the Giants drafting him at the wrong time considering their circumstances.
Can you imagine trading Eli, and the 2nd overall pick, for draft picks?
If the Giants front office knew what they were doing, the Giants could truly be rebuilding right now, instead of patching up a leaky boat with duct tape.
@erikthredd said:
NY drafted Davis Webb last season in the 3rd and Kyle Lauletta in this past draft in the 4th,they have their developmental QB to sit behind Eli and learn. The only way I see NY grabbing another QB with a high 1st in this next draft is if they decide to move on from Eli this offseason.
And I hope they stick with Eli so they can continue to play bad football.
I've got no problem at all with Barkley. The problem is the Giants drafting him at the wrong time considering their circumstances.
Can you imagine trading Eli, and the 2nd overall pick, for draft picks?
If the Giants front office knew what they were doing, the Giants could truly be rebuilding right now, instead of patching up a leaky boat with duct tape.
Trading Eli this offseason makes a ton of sense. He only has one year at 23M left on his deal and you know NY won't be extending him a new offer. Get what you can for him,give Webb or Lauletta a shot then draft a TE & a couple OLinemen early on. Whoever starts at QB will have the most important pieces already around him, stud WR & RB + a top 10 Left Tackle.
@erikthredd said:
NY drafted Davis Webb last season in the 3rd and Kyle Lauletta in this past draft in the 4th,they have their developmental QB to sit behind Eli and learn. The only way I see NY grabbing another QB with a high 1st in this next draft is if they decide to move on from Eli this offseason.
Agreed. And I think that is possible if not likely to happen.
There's also no guarantee that a first round QB turns into a franchise QB, either. 1st round busts are littered over the past few years' draft classes. You have just as much chance at drafting a solid QB in the 2-4 rounds as you do in the 1st round. Just look at RGIII and Cousins a few years ago. RGIII was drafted 2nd overall and is out of football and his former teammate Cousins was drafted in the 4th round, took over his job and now has one of the highest salaries in the league.
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@erikthredd said:
NY drafted Davis Webb last season in the 3rd and Kyle Lauletta in this past draft in the 4th,they have their developmental QB to sit behind Eli and learn. The only way I see NY grabbing another QB with a high 1st in this next draft is if they decide to move on from Eli this offseason.
And I hope they stick with Eli so they can continue to play bad football.
I've got no problem at all with Barkley. The problem is the Giants drafting him at the wrong time considering their circumstances.
Can you imagine trading Eli, and the 2nd overall pick, for draft picks?
If the Giants front office knew what they were doing, the Giants could truly be rebuilding right now, instead of patching up a leaky boat with duct tape.
Trading Eli this offseason makes a ton of sense. He only has one year at 23M left on his deal and you know NY won't be extending him a new offer. Get what you can for him,give Webb or Lauletta a shot then draft a TE & a couple OLinemen early on. Whoever starts at QB will have the most important pieces already around him, stud WR & RB + a top 10 Left Tackle.
We can all name a list of hall of fame QB's who got traded or released before their careers were over. Same in baseball or any other sport.
The smarter GM's seem to know the best time to do this, as it's always a difficult decision, especially because of fan loyalty to these type of great players. The question is do ya want to win games or field an old-timer's team?
@erikthredd said:
NY drafted Davis Webb last season in the 3rd and Kyle Lauletta in this past draft in the 4th,they have their developmental QB to sit behind Eli and learn. The only way I see NY grabbing another QB with a high 1st in this next draft is if they decide to move on from Eli this offseason.
And I hope they stick with Eli so they can continue to play bad football.
I've got no problem at all with Barkley. The problem is the Giants drafting him at the wrong time considering their circumstances.
Can you imagine trading Eli, and the 2nd overall pick, for draft picks?
If the Giants front office knew what they were doing, the Giants could truly be rebuilding right now, instead of patching up a leaky boat with duct tape.
Trading Eli this offseason makes a ton of sense. He only has one year at 23M left on his deal and you know NY won't be extending him a new offer. Get what you can for him,give Webb or Lauletta a shot then draft a TE & a couple OLinemen early on. Whoever starts at QB will have the most important pieces already around him, stud WR & RB + a top 10 Left Tackle.
We can all name a list of hall of fame QB's who got traded or released before their careers were over. Same in baseball or any other sport.
The smarter GM's seem to know the best time to do this, as it's always a difficult decision, especially because of fan loyalty to these type of great players. The question is do ya want to win games or field an old-timer's team?
Yup just look at last season when they benched Eli for a week and ended his consecutive starts streak.NY fans ripped the team on social media for a week. They made McAdoo the scapegoat because he was on his way out anyways when a decision like that to bench a QB making 23-24M almost always comes from the owner or GM.
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Barkley had an excellent first half, could even be called outstanding...and...the Giants are down by the score of 24-6.
My pre-draft point need not belabored any longer, that drafting Barkley would not significantly improve the Giants won-loss record for 2018.
Some out there thought that by drafting Barkley, and signing Odell Beckham to a mega-contract, would help Eli Manning and the Giants win a lot more football games. It was an easy call that wasn't going to happen.
Perhaps in the long run, the Giants drafting Barkley will work out for them in the only way that truly matters...getting into the playoffs with a shot at winning a Super Bowl. We shall see.
Steve, it's obvious that the Giants have a lot of issues that need to be addressed including the QB position. I suspect that there may be a new QB under center for the Giants in 2019. Whoever that is, and if they turn out to be a long term solution, there's no question the Giants have playmakers at the skill positions. The OL needs work, too.
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@grote15 said:
Steve, it's obvious that the Giants have a lot of issues that need to be addressed including the QB position. I suspect that there may be a new QB under center for the Giants in 2019. Whoever that is, and if they turn out to be a long term solution, there's no question the Giants have playmakers at the skill positions. The OL needs work, too.
The Giants will be back, just a question of when. They are just too good of a historical franchise to be down forever.
They just aren't doing a number of things right at this time. That being said, sometimes it's just circumstances which play out that are a bit beyond control. Take Eli for example, the guy won two Super Bowls for the Giants and is still a "serviceable" quarterback. It's tough to get rid of a guy such as that.
In any event, nobody in their right football mind would call the Giants losers. They are one of the top franchises in NFL history. Finishing 3-13 last season, and now with a 1-5 record, that of course is unacceptable to them and they will without question eventually turn things around.
Not to pile on, but another illustration of what they are doing wrong at this time. You cannot, and I can't say it emphatically enough, CANNOT have your top superstar wide receiver who just signed a monster contract...fielding punt returns. That cannot happen with a possible exception of needing something big to happen in a playoff game or the Super Bowl. I'm just not sure what the Giants are thinking doing that...it is lunacy and I don't care what the reason may be for doing it.
@grote15 said:
Steve, it's obvious that the Giants have a lot of issues that need to be addressed including the QB position. I suspect that there may be a new QB under center for the Giants in 2019. Whoever that is, and if they turn out to be a long term solution, there's no question the Giants have playmakers at the skill positions. The OL needs work, too.
The Giants will be back, just a question of when. They are just too good of a historical franchise to be down forever.
They just aren't doing a number of things right at this time. That being said, sometimes it's just circumstances which play out that are a bit beyond control. Take Eli for example, the guy won two Super Bowls for the Giants and is still a "serviceable" quarterback. It's tough to get rid of a guy such as that.
In any event, nobody in their right football mind would call the Giants losers. They are one of the top franchises in NFL history. Finishing 3-13 last season, and now with a 1-5 record, that of course is unacceptable to them and they will without question eventually turn things around.
Not to pile on, but another illustration of what they are doing wrong at this time. You cannot, and I can't say it emphatically enough, CANNOT have your top superstar wide receiver who just signed a monster contract...fielding punt returns. That cannot happen with a possible exception of needing something big to happen in a playoff game or the Super Bowl. I'm just not sure what the Giants are thinking doing that...it is lunacy and I don't care what the reason may be for doing it.
Antonio Brown does it for the Steelers, too. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you here but I'm assuming they feel he can break some big returns. So far, it's actually done more harm than good.
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Putting your biggest playmaker on offense on punt or kick return is not a good move unless the game is on the line late in the 4th, other than that it’s ridiculous. I hate it when Belichek puts certain guys on special teams. Barkley is potentially the best RB in the league in my opinion. As far as trading Eli who the heck would want him now?
Liking Darnold more and more with each passing week.
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That's a tough loss. I think next week's game will still be a tough one for the Pats. Trubisky has been playing great and they have one of the best defenses in football.
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I'm down. Straight up win for a month? Just make sure Mack knows Brady has to still be breathing when it ends lol
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Galaxy, if your serious then I will put up a Bears avatar against a Pats for a full month buddy! Challenge offered and the football is in your court my friend!
yup, dead serious!
since it's 1 against 2, if the Bears lose i'll put up a Pats av until Christmas, which is roughly two months. and if they win, you guys only have to suffer for a month apiece.
and hopefully everyone will provoke you guys to post as much as possible over those 30 days.
edit: on 11/11 the Dallas Cowboys play the Philadelphia Eagles. i'm thinking two other gentlemen from this forum should follow in our footsteps...
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
I know you're not thinking of me because you used the word "gentlemen" (LOL), but i brought up this subject in the pre-season. If that Cowboys fan, I forget his name but I think he collects dimes, would enjoy participating in an avatar bet, then I would be happy to oblige.
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Of course the Eagles kicking the Cowboys arze will be no problem, so i've got nothing to worry about.
We got a bet!
Brownies for the win!
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They did all they could to give that gaem to the Ravens but the Ravens wanted none of it, lol..
John Brown had 14 targets and only 4 receptions. Geez.
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That lame duck kick almost didn't make it.
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Well, its always a good day when the Raiders lose, and having Gruden at the helm
just doubles the enjoyment. Nice to see them in the cellar of the AFC west, they might
as well make themselves comfortable because its going to be a season long stay.
Yes, it will tough buying out nine years of Gruden's ten year contract. This has to be the worst coaching deal since the Philadelphia Eagles signed Joe Kuherric (so) to a long term deal in the late 1960s.
I’m rooting for the Browns, I was happy the Ravens snatched defeat out of the jaws of Victory.
time for a pop quiz. i've provided ample clues for you to ace it. if you still find a way to answer incorrectly, then it's time for you to stop watching football and start playing canasta with coinstartled instead. simply fill in the blanks.
yesterday, the Raiders were down 20-3 late in the 3rd. they had the ball 1st and goal at the Chargers' 1. Marshawn Lynch was in the backfield. 10-year, $100 million man Jon G called a _____ play and the end result was a/an ______.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
cutesy
uncutesy
i sometimes wonder if decisions like this are ascribed to sleep deprivation
5:20
(keep an eye on Lynch after the play -- he almost launches his helmet like a hand grenade)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=54lypvYERNc
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
How about the Giants? They almost won a game they had no business winning, ultimately losing a game they had no business losing.
This is one week, one game!
Can’t make it up!
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Had to hedge my bets a little, bought an auto QB rookie card and it wasn't Mahomes this time.LOL
Has a really good chance to win the super bowl and his cards are actually cheaper than Mahomes' cards.
The two shall meet in Mexico City in a few weeks.
Congrats to Drew Brees for setting the all time passing yardage record. A terrific player and person.
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Congrats to Brees
feeling the G-men tonight
Barkley may rush for 500 yards
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Well let's analyze it shall we?
Barkley has played in five NFL games. In three of those games he has rushed for less than 50 yards. In his first game, it may have also been less than 50 yards except for one long run. These stats so far are not why you select a running back as the #2 overall pick in the draft.
His receiving yardage is all well and good. But you draft a running back that high to run the football if you want to have a winning football team.
Am i labeling Barkley a bust? Of course not. However the fact is that after five games this season, the Giants are tied for the worst record in the NFL.
The Giants are 1-4 and unless they catch some lucky breaks tonight, after the game is over they will be 1-5.
i'll be more than happy to analyze with you. he's on pace for 986 rushing yards, 877 receiving yards and 16 total trips to the house on an abysmal team. for a rookie campaign, i'm more than pleased with those numbers if i'm in any way associated with the Giants.
when i was clamoring for NY to select him in the draft, i never once said he was going to be the panacea. the Giants are leaking oil in more areas than one. but if i'm the midst of revamping an NFL team, i want Barkley. every time i have seen him in action this season, he has passed the eye test with flying colors. he's a freak of nature who possesses a unparalleled skill set. if the kid can stay healthy, he's going to be special.
i will agree with you when it comes to Eli.........he's running on fumes. so when the next draft rolls around, address that oil leak by drafting his successor. but this is a multi-year renovation project, so why not take the best possible athlete in year one? someone, mind you, who would fill a glaring void at a skill position? i'm not too terribly familiar with the QBs & RBs entering next year's draft, but i'd be willing to bet that drafting a back similar to Barkley will be a much tougher chore than selecting a QB who rivals Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, or Rosen.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Steve, New York could have grabbed a QB at #2 instead of Barkley and he'd be holding Eli's clipboard right now while the team was still 1-4 after 5 games. NY's backup QB hasn't played a single snap yet and a rookie QB would not have had a bigger impact than Barkley has had so far,
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I hate the Giants but I will give credit where credit is due, Barkley has great overall numbers so far for a rookie RB on a horrendous team with a horrendous OL. I would have taken a QB/OL/CB before a RB though
Spot on analysis.
In today's NFL, it's about all purpose yards from scrimmage, not just rushing yards.
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NY drafted Davis Webb last season in the 3rd and Kyle Lauletta in this past draft in the 4th,they have their developmental QB to sit behind Eli and learn. The only way I see NY grabbing another QB with a high 1st in this next draft is if they decide to move on from Eli this offseason.
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And I hope they stick with Eli so they can continue to play bad football.
Wow I just realized I’m a Philly fan tonight
his deal runs out after 2019. he's due to make 23M in 2018 & 2019.
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That is NOT funny.
Welcome aboard, even if it's just for a few hours.
Hey I'm just saying, some Philly fans like to talk crap,throw crap......and eat crap
Eric
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I've got no problem at all with Barkley. The problem is the Giants drafting him at the wrong time considering their circumstances.
Can you imagine trading Eli, and the 2nd overall pick, for draft picks?
If the Giants front office knew what they were doing, the Giants could truly be rebuilding right now, instead of patching up a leaky boat with duct tape.
Trading Eli this offseason makes a ton of sense. He only has one year at 23M left on his deal and you know NY won't be extending him a new offer. Get what you can for him,give Webb or Lauletta a shot then draft a TE & a couple OLinemen early on. Whoever starts at QB will have the most important pieces already around him, stud WR & RB + a top 10 Left Tackle.
Eric
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Agreed. And I think that is possible if not likely to happen.
There's also no guarantee that a first round QB turns into a franchise QB, either. 1st round busts are littered over the past few years' draft classes. You have just as much chance at drafting a solid QB in the 2-4 rounds as you do in the 1st round. Just look at RGIII and Cousins a few years ago. RGIII was drafted 2nd overall and is out of football and his former teammate Cousins was drafted in the 4th round, took over his job and now has one of the highest salaries in the league.
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We can all name a list of hall of fame QB's who got traded or released before their careers were over. Same in baseball or any other sport.
The smarter GM's seem to know the best time to do this, as it's always a difficult decision, especially because of fan loyalty to these type of great players. The question is do ya want to win games or field an old-timer's team?
Yup just look at last season when they benched Eli for a week and ended his consecutive starts streak.NY fans ripped the team on social media for a week. They made McAdoo the scapegoat because he was on his way out anyways when a decision like that to bench a QB making 23-24M almost always comes from the owner or GM.
Eric
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Wow, what a run by Barkley! Sandersesque!
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Barkley is spectacular
forget trading Eli......dude looks like he needs to retire
Wentz finding his groove
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Barkley had an excellent first half, could even be called outstanding...and...the Giants are down by the score of 24-6.
My pre-draft point need not belabored any longer, that drafting Barkley would not significantly improve the Giants won-loss record for 2018.
Some out there thought that by drafting Barkley, and signing Odell Beckham to a mega-contract, would help Eli Manning and the Giants win a lot more football games. It was an easy call that wasn't going to happen.
Perhaps in the long run, the Giants drafting Barkley will work out for them in the only way that truly matters...getting into the playoffs with a shot at winning a Super Bowl. We shall see.
Steve, it's obvious that the Giants have a lot of issues that need to be addressed including the QB position. I suspect that there may be a new QB under center for the Giants in 2019. Whoever that is, and if they turn out to be a long term solution, there's no question the Giants have playmakers at the skill positions. The OL needs work, too.
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The Giants will be back, just a question of when. They are just too good of a historical franchise to be down forever.
They just aren't doing a number of things right at this time. That being said, sometimes it's just circumstances which play out that are a bit beyond control. Take Eli for example, the guy won two Super Bowls for the Giants and is still a "serviceable" quarterback. It's tough to get rid of a guy such as that.
In any event, nobody in their right football mind would call the Giants losers. They are one of the top franchises in NFL history. Finishing 3-13 last season, and now with a 1-5 record, that of course is unacceptable to them and they will without question eventually turn things around.
Not to pile on, but another illustration of what they are doing wrong at this time. You cannot, and I can't say it emphatically enough, CANNOT have your top superstar wide receiver who just signed a monster contract...fielding punt returns. That cannot happen with a possible exception of needing something big to happen in a playoff game or the Super Bowl. I'm just not sure what the Giants are thinking doing that...it is lunacy and I don't care what the reason may be for doing it.
Antonio Brown does it for the Steelers, too. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you here but I'm assuming they feel he can break some big returns. So far, it's actually done more harm than good.
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Putting your biggest playmaker on offense on punt or kick return is not a good move unless the game is on the line late in the 4th, other than that it’s ridiculous. I hate it when Belichek puts certain guys on special teams. Barkley is potentially the best RB in the league in my opinion. As far as trading Eli who the heck would want him now?
After moving Khalil Mack it looks like Gruden wants to trade his best player on offense too with Amari Cooper. I'd love to see Belichick bring him to NE but with his 5th yr option of 13+M this will never happen.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2800775-amari-cooper-trade-rumors-raiders-discussing-potentially-dealing-wr
Eric
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the Bears' D is making Brock Osweiler look like Dan Marino reincarnated
doesn't bode well for my bet next weekend
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Liking Darnold more and more with each passing week.
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Bears fans better send Kenyan Drake a Thank-You card.
edit: cancel that card...damn kicker
Eric
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i am furious over that conservative 3rd down call
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
That's a tough loss. I think next week's game will still be a tough one for the Pats. Trubisky has been playing great and they have one of the best defenses in football.
Eric
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