Ok lets see how long it lasts till its all over 15,000---20,000 But what will over be ? All AP coins shipped, ATB grading fever over, E-bay selling for melt. Where will it all end. Maybe when the 2011 ATB`S start rolling out or do we need a new 2011 ATB thread ???? the insanity continues
That statement is full of oxymorons, overwhelming demand, phone only and 3pm to 5pm eastern. Maybe they only have 2 hours worth of coins left, or they have a huge call center and will be able to handle all the calls. Who here needs/is actually going to try for more?
They NEED to let people know several things. Amongst them...
Are they taking full orders (- like MTB) or just names on lists - and then will follow up with forms, info (- like Dillon Gage) How the coins are/were handled? What are they being held/shipped in? When they will ship? How much a set will be (shipping/taxes)? What methods of payment will be accepted?
<< <i>This is gonna be that Prudential nonsense all over again. Jammed lines, only 8 people ever get thru and then the sale is over. Pretty bogus. >>
Couldn't have said it any better. That sums it up. I mean, who do they think they are fooling? How can they have "overwhelming demand" if they haven't released any for sale yet? Kinda contradictory if you ask me...
<< <i>This is gonna be that Prudential nonsense all over again. Jammed lines, only 8 people ever get thru and then the sale is over. Pretty bogus. >>
Couldn't have said it any better. That sums it up. I mean, who do they think they are fooling? How can they have "overwhelming demand" if they haven't released any for sale yet? Kinda contradictory if you ask me... >>
I understand that they may have overwhelming demand i.e. inquiries via phone and internet, but how does this translate into the reason for only taking orders for two hours? The term "Mickey Mouse" comes to mind.
Not for nothing, but most of the people complaining about the way the coins are being sold; probably have purchased at least 3 sets... I have bought as many, moving forward anything else I get is a bonus and I am not loosing any sleep If I do not get anymore. Lets face it, the people at the Mint are wussies and they will not do anything to the sellers that did not comply with their terms.
<< <i>Scotsman must have been reading this thread. >>
Yesterday:
"Those not used to looking at these large coins might view it and see something that looks wrong or like a flaw. However, if you look at enough of these .........
...... A gorgeous coin that is almost certain to be in an elite class in the entire ATB series".
Today:
"But, after reviewing the coin and having a discussion about it with NGC, it was determined that the listing should be removed from E-bay and sent back to NGC for review. Both of our companies agreed that the coin most likely did not live up to either NGC's or Scotsman's standards of a coin deserving of our hobbies highest prize".
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."
Let me guess the only non PL was Grand Canyon. Right? >>
You got it! >>
From all the "new" PCGS grades that I've seen so far (and I've seen many) - almost EVERY SINGLE one has been PL or DMPL except for about 50% of the Grand Canyons. My predictions based on this... 1 - The old (plain) 69's will (continue) to fall in price. - I just saw a bunch of singles sell $500-$600 on ebay. 2 - The 69PL's will become the new normal - standard set. 3 - The 69DMPL's will be the set to get (although I've seen tons of PL's and 68DMPL's - not as many 69DMPL's.) AND ONE KEY PREDICTION ---- 4 - The Grand Canyon 69PL - and even more so the Grand Canyon 69DMPL - will be the single most valuable coins. (most of them are really hazy, and wont get the PL, DMPL designation.
<< <i>How many on this board would send it back for regrade ??? >>
No chance. Not going to waste $600 in grading fees - and with my luck the DM/PL parade will be turned off by the time my pucks are ready to be graded...
As said by Cakes on the previous page about FideliTrade's packaging, "That is correct, I just got in a set a couple days ago. Small 4X4 box, each coin in an air-tite, then dropped in the small bubble wrap sleeve. Then all covered with a thin amount of foam and stuffed in the little 4X4 box. Much better then the first shipments."
<< <i>Scotsman must have been reading this thread. >>
EXACTLY!!! That was my immediate thought when I saw the pic w/the error message. WT*? Graded in error??? How exactly did they find that out? NGC just happened to call them?? B.S.
As many of us suspected, this was B.S. They or NGC read this thread and nixed it - too much at stake to have this non-70 sold as a 70. We all called this one immediately :-)
Let me guess the only non PL was Grand Canyon. Right? >>
You got it! >>
From all the "new" PCGS grades that I've seen so far (and I've seen many) - almost EVERY SINGLE one has been PL or DMPL except for about 50% of the Grand Canyons. My predictions based on this... 1 - The old (plain) 69's will (continue) to fall in price. - I just saw a bunch of singles sell $500-$600 on ebay. 2 - The 69PL's will become the new normal - standard set. 3 - The 69DMPL's will be the set to get (although I've seen tons of PL's and 68DMPL's - not as many 69DMPL's.) AND ONE KEY PREDICTION ---- 4 - The Grand Canyon 69PL - and even more so the Grand Canyon 69DMPL - will be the single most valuable coins. (most of them are really hazy, and wont get the PL, DMPL designation. >>
The first forum member to post these was very fortunate to get a full DMPL set from five A MARKS indeed.
<< <i>Scotsman must have been reading this thread. >>
Yesterday:
"Those not used to looking at these large coins might view it and see something that looks wrong or like a flaw. However, if you look at enough of these .........
...... A gorgeous coin that is almost certain to be in an elite class in the entire ATB series".
Today:
"But, after reviewing the coin and having a discussion about it with NGC, it was determined that the listing should be removed from E-bay and sent back to NGC for review. Both of our companies agreed that the coin most likely did not live up to either NGC's or Scotsman's standards of a coin deserving of our hobbies highest prize".
>>
Yes, I think that many of us are VERY, VERY used to looking at these large coins. Give me a break!
That said, they did pull it in the end and get a few points for that...
This MS70 fiasco reminds me of the children's story about the king with no clothes. They paraded this coin on ebay & basically said that anyone criticizing it was doing so out of ignorance. Gotta love it!
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."
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2 weeks and I'll know it if was all worth it, or not.
<< <i>I thought mine would come DM, but when they arrived they were DMPL >>
What numerical grades are they?
2 MS68DMPL, 2 MS68PL, & 1 MS69
<< <i>They were both 68.
2 MS68DMPL, 2 MS68PL, & 1 MS69 >>
Let me guess the only non PL was Grand Canyon. Right?
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Coming Soon - Due to overwhelming demand order requests will begin by PHONE ONLY.
Call 1-800-258-7322 on Tuesday March 8, 2011
Between 3:00 PM and 5:00 PM EST
All calls are recorded for quality assurance and record keeping
<< <i>Lets all have fun at Coins n Things on March 8th for only 2 hours:
Coins n Things
Coming Soon - Due to overwhelming demand order requests will begin by PHONE ONLY.
Call 1-800-258-7322 on Tuesday March 8, 2011
Between 3:00 PM and 5:00 PM EST
All calls are recorded for quality assurance and record keeping >>
HAVE THEY NOT LEARNED?!?!?!
<< <i>Lets all have fun at Coins n Things on March 8th for only 2 hours:
Coins n Things
Coming Soon - Due to overwhelming demand order requests will begin by PHONE ONLY.
Call 1-800-258-7322 on Tuesday March 8, 2011
Between 3:00 PM and 5:00 PM EST
All calls are recorded for quality assurance and record keeping >>
That would be 25 phone lines taking 1 order a minute to sell 3000 sets.
Are they taking full orders (- like MTB) or just names on lists - and then will follow up with forms, info (- like Dillon Gage)
How the coins are/were handled?
What are they being held/shipped in?
When they will ship?
How much a set will be (shipping/taxes)?
What methods of payment will be accepted?
<< <i>
<< <i>Lets all have fun at Coins n Things on March 8th for only 2 hours:
Coins n Things
Coming Soon - Due to overwhelming demand order requests will begin by PHONE ONLY.
Call 1-800-258-7322 on Tuesday March 8, 2011
Between 3:00 PM and 5:00 PM EST
All calls are recorded for quality assurance and record keeping >>
HAVE THEY NOT LEARNED?!?!?! >>
This is gonna be that Prudential nonsense all over again. Jammed lines, only 8 people ever get thru and then the sale is over. Pretty bogus.
<< <i>they are having a token sale "to the public" >>
Likely a total waste of time like prudential.
<< <i>This is gonna be that Prudential nonsense all over again. Jammed lines, only 8 people ever get thru and then the sale is over. Pretty bogus. >>
Couldn't have said it any better. That sums it up. I mean, who do they think they are fooling? How can they have "overwhelming demand" if they haven't released any for sale yet? Kinda contradictory if you ask me...
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https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
<< <i>I got a notice my bid was canceled on the ms70 must have gotten an offer they couldn't refuse >>
The real question to me regarding the CNT sales is the price. Are they able reprice to spot on 3/8? Has there been a new agreement with the Mint?
This is going to be a phone nightmare.
EDIT: MS70 recall? Huh? Can they do that? I smell a fish.
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<< <i>I got a notice my bid was canceled on the ms70 must have gotten an offer they couldn't refuse >>
Did not see that when I opened the link.. Very impressed with Scotsman
Hotsprings pl69
Yellowstone pl69
Mount hood pl 69
Yosemite dm 69
Grand canyon ms68
Not cherries, just lucky!!!!!
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Buyer-nibanny; derryb; zubie; smittys; konsole; tootawl; socalbigmark; fullcameo; coinkid855
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<< <i>This is gonna be that Prudential nonsense all over again. Jammed lines, only 8 people ever get thru and then the sale is over. Pretty bogus. >>
Couldn't have said it any better. That sums it up. I mean, who do they think they are fooling? How can they have "overwhelming demand" if they haven't released any for sale yet? Kinda contradictory if you ask me... >>
I understand that they may have overwhelming demand i.e. inquiries via phone and internet, but how does this translate into the reason for only taking orders for two hours? The term "Mickey Mouse" comes to mind.
<< <i>That's a pretty freaking big mistake. >>
In my opinion that just hurts the NGC Reputation.
<< <i>Where'd I put my Demon Dialer?
Well I am now going to take mine with me to Calif, since I leave on monday just have to hope it gets thru the TSA people. Dial on Demon Dialer
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Varieties Are The Spice Of LIFE and Thanks to Those who teach us what to search For.
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<< <i>They were both 68.
2 MS68DMPL, 2 MS68PL, & 1 MS69 >>
Let me guess the only non PL was Grand Canyon. Right? >>
You got it!
<< <i>Scotsman must have been reading this thread.
Yesterday:
"Those not used to looking at these large coins might view it and see something
that looks wrong or like a flaw. However, if you look at enough of these .........
...... A gorgeous coin that is almost certain to be in an elite class in the entire ATB series".
Today:
"But, after reviewing the coin and having a discussion about it with NGC, it was
determined that the listing should be removed from E-bay and sent back to NGC
for review. Both of our companies agreed that the coin most likely did not live up
to either NGC's or Scotsman's standards of a coin deserving of our hobbies
highest prize".
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."
~ Vince Lombardi
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>They were both 68.
2 MS68DMPL, 2 MS68PL, & 1 MS69 >>
Let me guess the only non PL was Grand Canyon. Right? >>
You got it! >>
From all the "new" PCGS grades that I've seen so far (and I've seen many) - almost EVERY SINGLE one has been PL or DMPL except for about 50% of the Grand Canyons.
My predictions based on this...
1 - The old (plain) 69's will (continue) to fall in price. - I just saw a bunch of singles sell $500-$600 on ebay.
2 - The 69PL's will become the new normal - standard set.
3 - The 69DMPL's will be the set to get (although I've seen tons of PL's and 68DMPL's - not as many 69DMPL's.)
AND ONE KEY PREDICTION ----
4 - The Grand Canyon 69PL - and even more so the Grand Canyon 69DMPL - will be the single most valuable coins. (most of them are really hazy, and wont get the PL, DMPL designation.
<< <i>How many on this board would send it back for regrade ??? >>
No chance. Not going to waste $600 in grading fees - and with my luck the DM/PL parade will be turned off by the time my pucks are ready to be graded...
<< <i>Lets all have fun at Coins n Things on March 8th for only 2 hours:
Coins n Things
Coming Soon - Due to overwhelming demand order requests will begin by PHONE ONLY.
Call 1-800-258-7322 on Tuesday March 8, 2011
Between 3:00 PM and 5:00 PM EST
All calls are recorded for quality assurance and record keeping >>
What a joke.
They should have done that years ago with the Wisconsin extra leaf MS68's which were a complete joke.
<< <i>Scotsman must have been reading this thread.
EXACTLY!!! That was my immediate thought when I saw the pic w/the error message. WT*? Graded in error??? How exactly did they find that out? NGC just happened to call them?? B.S.
As many of us suspected, this was B.S. They or NGC read this thread and nixed it - too much at stake to have this non-70 sold as a 70. We all called this one immediately :-)
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>They were both 68.
2 MS68DMPL, 2 MS68PL, & 1 MS69 >>
Let me guess the only non PL was Grand Canyon. Right? >>
You got it! >>
From all the "new" PCGS grades that I've seen so far (and I've seen many) - almost EVERY SINGLE one has been PL or DMPL except for about 50% of the Grand Canyons.
My predictions based on this...
1 - The old (plain) 69's will (continue) to fall in price. - I just saw a bunch of singles sell $500-$600 on ebay.
2 - The 69PL's will become the new normal - standard set.
3 - The 69DMPL's will be the set to get (although I've seen tons of PL's and 68DMPL's - not as many 69DMPL's.)
AND ONE KEY PREDICTION ----
4 - The Grand Canyon 69PL - and even more so the Grand Canyon 69DMPL - will be the single most valuable coins. (most of them are really hazy, and wont get the PL, DMPL designation. >>
The first forum member to post these was very fortunate to get a full DMPL set from five A MARKS indeed.
<< <i>
<< <i>Scotsman must have been reading this thread.
Yesterday:
"Those not used to looking at these large coins might view it and see something
that looks wrong or like a flaw. However, if you look at enough of these .........
...... A gorgeous coin that is almost certain to be in an elite class in the entire ATB series".
Today:
"But, after reviewing the coin and having a discussion about it with NGC, it was
determined that the listing should be removed from E-bay and sent back to NGC
for review. Both of our companies agreed that the coin most likely did not live up
to either NGC's or Scotsman's standards of a coin deserving of our hobbies
highest prize".
Yes, I think that many of us are VERY, VERY used to looking at these large coins. Give me a break!
That said, they did pull it in the end and get a few points for that...
This MS70 fiasco reminds me of the children's story about the king with no clothes.
They paraded this coin on ebay & basically said that anyone criticizing it was doing
so out of ignorance. Gotta love it!
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."
~ Vince Lombardi