That was the figure as of 10/20/08. The number as of 10/26/08 was 417,128, but there should be another update tomorrow. Since 9/1/08, the total 08W Unc figure has been increasing at an average rate of 5,712 coins per week.
Buyers are grabbing up anything from $500-$550 on ebay now. It looks like we are seeing the rise in prices as it comes to the year end that I expected to see.
I got two out of five that were recently submitted.
Ren >>
Way to go Ren!
Seems like those of us who have sent in our best coins as of late have done pretty well. Is PCGS grading "more" 70's percentage-wise today than they were when they had the first influx of coins? Did we do well by waiting to have them graded? Personally, I'm not sure I would have gotten my 1 - 70 out of two coins if I had submitted back when they first recognized the variety.
Edited to add: 1) I miss this thread! 2) I wrote my request for the reverse facing out on the form only, and they slabbed them to my liking. 3) I should've imaged my 70 before I took it to the SDB, but I forgot. The two I sent in were of the "shiny" type.
Like 6Sigma, I have mine in the FoodSaver and totally, 100% spot free/tone free.
Anyone hear from TonyWKoo lately? Like to know how he made out in his foray as a 'coin dealer'. MS and PP found out he was gaffing them fraudently and canned ALL his cashbacks under his and his wife's name. His wife left him, lives in a refrig box under the highway........
Lope....any word from yhe mint or they just blow you off because you asked too many questions? Now you are on their 'watch' list...lol
Not sure if it is the camera but it looks like this listing has a couple of spots on it, and it is (was) a PCGS MS70! Looks like both the obverse and reverse have spots.
I wonder how many non spotted PCGS 70s will remain after a year?
<< <i>This past week I saw a NGC69 go for $419 and a PCGS69 go for $349 on the 'bay! Anomaly?
Ren
ed4sp >>
If that's the NGC 69 I'm thinking of, it had one of the worst slab photographs I've ever seen.. it looks like he pointed a cheap camera at it and used flash and the entire center of the slab where the coin was, was just one huge white blur.. what's the auction number for the PCGS 69 that went for $349.00?.. I've only been following the NGC 69s because those are the only ones I had.. I've sold three of them for $500.00 each and now only have one left which I'm going to hang onto it for a while.. my twisted plan is to sell it next year to cover half (hopefully) the cost of one of the 2009 Ultra High Relief Saint reproductions.. but since The Mint hasn't announced a price on those yet.. I don't know what half the price of one will be.. if they price it at $1000.00 or less, I'll probably go for it, but if they put some ridiculous premium on it, like $1200.00, forget it.. I wonder if a coin that's twice as thick as a $10.00 Gold Eagle will fit into a PCGS slab.. anyone know?..
Harv
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I suspect you have not sold any recently, because since 11/10 only 2 ms69's (both PCGS) have sold for over $500 (11/13) .. the rest have either sold for under $500 or did not sell at all.
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<< <i>What have the PCGS 70's been bringing as of late (if any are even selling)?
I have one and I keep thinking I'd rather use the money for something good, but I don't want to sell it for some low price like $1200 or something! >>
Hey, I'll give ya $1200.00 for it.. then you can take the money and run over to The Mint's "Last Chance Sale" and buy up as many spoons as $1200.00 will buy.. then just wait a couple months until GM, Ford, and Chrysler go bust, throwing 25 million people out of work, and we have a new Depression with bread lines and soup kitchens.. with all those snazzy spoons, you'll get to go right to the head of the line!..
(not to be too terribly off-topic or anything, but any of youze guys been looking at that sale and what's been selling out?.. the first thing to go were the 2004 Mint sets.. you know, the ones the Mint only sold for three months in 2004 then yanked them with no warning, so they shot up to about $70.00 on the after-market.. they were gone five minutes after the sale started.. I was lying in bed watching teevee and thought oh crap!.. the sale just started.. so I raced to the computer, and they were already gone!.. I bet some huge dealer grabbed all of them by punching in some ridiculously high order quantity.. but one of the other first things to sell out was Iowa spoons.. I'm still trying to figure out why..) ..
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<< <i>Am still in amazement at an NGC MS-69 selling for $800 plus shipping on November 12.
Ebay item 230307239872 >>
No, that was not "an" NGC MS-69. That listing was 13 Available NGC MS-69's at 800.00 each...... And it looks like every one was purchased buy a new bidder, a (0) if you will....What an Odd coin...cedence...
I've decided I'm going to sell my PCGS 70 to raise some cash. I could use the cash soon and I just keep hearing the folks on these boards who say "It's only profit if you take it."
Unfortunately, I think eBay is the best venue to sell this right now. There is one auction-style 70 on eBay right now that ends in 4 days. I'm watching it and hoping it goes for around 2K. I don't want to get killed with fees.
<< <i>Non First Strike 69's are tanking .... recent sales are below $400. How low will they go? >>
7 million posts on this thread and now we are depending on "First Strike?"
I am truly happy my one and only Nanney is "First Strike!" ; >>
The brilliant public is out there maxing out what CCs they have left buying Holiday crap they don't need for people who don't want it.. diverting money they'd spend on stuff for themselves to gifts for other people.. money they don't have, but they're willing to go deeper into debt at obscene Interest rates to make themselves look generous.. so the CC companies' head Scrooges can rub their hands in glee.. but what do I know.. I'm only a Nobel Prize-winning economist.. {{giggle}}.. thus, I suspect that these coins are dropping a bit due to seasonal Holiday buying frenzy..
I was watching The Suzy Orman show last weekend and she had a woman on, one of these typical "Housewives of Orange County" types.. begging Suzy to advise her how to get out of the CC Hell she had gotten herself into.. she had $230,000.00 in CC debt (that is NOT a typo).. had over 20 CCs, bought herself about $2k in jewelry every month, she has no job, but her old man brings in $9k a month.. they live in a $1 million house so between the mortgage payments and the CC payments, she's writing $20,000.00 in checks every month (that is not a typo).. to make the payments.. putting them over $10,000.00 deeper in the hole every month.. yet despite Suzy's best efforts, this woman was unwilling to take her advice to sell the house and move into an apartment, so she could start paying down the CC debt.. she told Suzy she liked to indulge herself (and just looking at her, you could tell she spent God knows how much on hair, nails, clothing, jewelry..) .. Suzy couldn't convince her that the right thing to do was immediately sell the house and was just ing herself in the forehead because this self-indulgent woman called in for advice, but wouldn't take it..
I'm sure this isn't an isolated incident.. there are a lot of people like that out there..
So.. join the crowd.. my Birthday is this Friday..
Harv
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on.. I don't do these things to other people.. I require the same of them.." - John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
Any consensus on how many of these are out there? I would presume that there is at least 2.5 to 3 times as many as what the grading services have graded so far.
<< <i>Any consensus on how many of these are out there? I would presume that there is at least 2.5 to 3 times as many as what the grading services have graded so far >>
Not a consensus but from the US Mint there were 47,000 minted. This is not really a new announcement.......
<< <i>Actually, 46,318.........You gotta read the thread... >>
Thanks Casman. I still have 3 of the 46,318.
And no, the Mint never responded to my 'additional' questions, which were really just the same ones we asked the first time around.
Maybe it's about time I send them another letter and keep pestering them until they at least acknowledge it. I suppose if I send them the letter each week it wouldn't take too long for a response.
But of course, it would just say something like "We believe we answered all of your questions and the U.S. Mint stands by it's numbers."
Comments
U.S. Mint Blog
Aso mentioned the potential sellout (happened I guess) and premium potential for the regular 08 W's
Year Burnished
2006-W 470,000
2007-W 647,474
2008-W 411,785 (as of this week)
<< <i>Just noticed on the US Mint website that they've stopped taking orders for the 2008W SAE (Unc & Proof). >>
Just checked and they are still available and in stock....
2008 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin (Z8F)
$25.95 In Stock
<< <i>...2008-W 411,785 (as of this week) >>
That was the figure as of 10/20/08. The number as of 10/26/08 was 417,128, but there should be another update tomorrow. Since 9/1/08, the total 08W Unc figure has been increasing at an average rate of 5,712 coins per week.
<< <i> Just checked and they are still available and in stock.... 2008 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin (Z8F)
$25.95 In Stock >>
Yes, I see that now. I was looking on the "Subscriptions" page. Odd that you can still buy them individually, but not using a new subscription.
Thanks for pointing this out.
Buyers are grabbing up anything from $500-$550 on ebay now. It looks like we are seeing the rise in prices as it comes to the year end that I expected to see.
<< <i>felt like sharing
I got two out of five that were recently submitted.
Ren
Way to go Ren!
Seems like those of us who have sent in our best coins as of late have done pretty well. Is PCGS grading "more" 70's percentage-wise today than they were when they had the first influx of coins? Did we do well by waiting to have them graded? Personally, I'm not sure I would have gotten my 1 - 70 out of two coins if I had submitted back when they first recognized the variety.
Edited to add:
1) I miss this thread!
2) I wrote my request for the reverse facing out on the form only, and they slabbed them to my liking.
3) I should've imaged my 70 before I took it to the SDB, but I forgot. The two I sent in were of the "shiny" type.
Oh yeah, and what ever happened to Tony Koo?
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I think maybe I will look over my 69 first strikes and send some in for reevaluation.
How much does it cost to do that?
PCGS Pricing Link
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<< <i>felt like sharing
I got two out of five that were recently submitted.
Ren
Did you remove them from original slabs, is it possible to keep first strike! >>
No, the 5 submitted were my best kept raws.
Ren
Anyone hear from TonyWKoo lately? Like to know how he made out in his foray as a 'coin dealer'. MS and PP found out he was gaffing them fraudently and canned ALL his cashbacks under his and his wife's name. His wife left him, lives in a refrig box under the highway........
Lope....any word from yhe mint or they just blow you off because you asked too many questions? Now you are on their 'watch' list...lol
Did anyone notice that these coins went up $100 on PCGS.
<< <i>Did anyone notice that these coins went up $100 on PCGS. >>
Ahh, I just dug up this thread to point that out myself...guess I'm almost a week late
EDITED: FYI the PCGS 70 went up $100 to $2100 according to the price guide. The 69's are now listed at $550 (up from $520).
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I wonder how many non spotted PCGS 70s will remain after a year?
PCGS MS70 Spots?
<< <i>I'm wondering if I should send some of my 1st strike 69's in for a re-evaluation. They look pretty good. >>
I have a few as well. Would you stand a better chance for a 70 if the coins were cracked out beforehand? Mine are not 1st strike...
<< <i>
<< <i>Did anyone notice that these coins went up $100 on PCGS. >>
Ahh, I just dug up this thread to point that out myself...guess I'm almost a week late
EDITED: FYI the PCGS 70 went up $100 to $2100 according to the price guide. The 69's are now listed at $550 (up from $520). >>
***Those are last month's selling prices*** I suspect the price guide will be adjusted lower to reflect the lower sales prices realized for November.
Ren
ed4sp
<< <i>This past week I saw a NGC69 go for $419 and a PCGS69 go for $349 on the 'bay! Anomaly?
Ren
ed4sp >>
If that's the NGC 69 I'm thinking of, it had one of the worst slab photographs I've ever seen.. it looks like he pointed a cheap camera at it and used flash and the entire center of the slab where the coin was, was just one huge white blur.. what's the auction number for the PCGS 69 that went for $349.00?.. I've only been following the NGC 69s because those are the only ones I had.. I've sold three of them for $500.00 each and now only have one left which I'm going to hang onto it for a while.. my twisted plan is to sell it next year to cover half (hopefully) the cost of one of the 2009 Ultra High Relief Saint reproductions.. but since The Mint hasn't announced a price on those yet.. I don't know what half the price of one will be.. if they price it at $1000.00 or less, I'll probably go for it, but if they put some ridiculous premium on it, like $1200.00, forget it.. I wonder if a coin that's twice as thick as a $10.00 Gold Eagle will fit into a PCGS slab.. anyone know?..
Harv
- John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
<< <i>This past week I saw a NGC69 go for $419 and a PCGS69 go for $349 on the 'bay! Anomaly?
Ren
ed4sp >>
I would guess that's the result of the artificial cap in place because of the MS 25% cashback...
<< <i>Mine have not sold for less! >>
I suspect you have not sold any recently, because since 11/10 only 2 ms69's (both PCGS) have sold for over $500 (11/13) .. the rest have either sold for under $500 or did not sell at all.
<< <i>I sold one for $600 and one for $580. >>
When? ... I'm not questioning that they have sold for that amount, but what I'm saying that they are not selling for that amount any longer.....
I have one and I keep thinking I'd rather use the money for something good, but I don't want to sell it for some low price like $1200 or something!
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Ebay item 230307239872
<< <i>Am still in amazement at an NGC MS-69 selling for $800 plus shipping on November 12 >>
Wow! Must have missed that one. I have one on sale this Sunday but I doubt it will fetch $800. Strange......
<< <i>What have the PCGS 70's been bringing as of late (if any are even selling)?
I have one and I keep thinking I'd rather use the money for something good, but I don't want to sell it for some low price like $1200 or something! >>
Hey, I'll give ya $1200.00 for it.. then you can take the money and run over to The Mint's "Last Chance Sale" and buy up as many spoons as $1200.00 will buy.. then just wait a couple months until GM, Ford, and Chrysler go bust, throwing 25 million people out of work, and we have a new Depression with bread lines and soup kitchens.. with all those snazzy spoons, you'll get to go right to the head of the line!..
(not to be too terribly off-topic or anything, but any of youze guys been looking at that sale and what's been selling out?.. the first thing to go were the 2004 Mint sets.. you know, the ones the Mint only sold for three months in 2004 then yanked them with no warning, so they shot up to about $70.00 on the after-market.. they were gone five minutes after the sale started.. I was lying in bed watching teevee and thought oh crap!.. the sale just started.. so I raced to the computer, and they were already gone!.. I bet some huge dealer grabbed all of them by punching in some ridiculously high order quantity.. but one of the other first things to sell out was Iowa spoons.. I'm still trying to figure out why..) ..
- John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
<< <i>Am still in amazement at an NGC MS-69 selling for $800 plus shipping on November 12.
Ebay item 230307239872 >>
No, that was not "an" NGC MS-69. That listing was 13 Available NGC MS-69's at 800.00 each......
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<< <i>I sold one for $600 and one for $580. >>
When? ... I'm not questioning that they have sold for that amount, but what I'm saying that they are not selling for that amount any longer..... >>
$600 on 10/16
$580 on 11/13
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>I sold one for $600 and one for $580. >>
When? ... I'm not questioning that they have sold for that amount, but what I'm saying that they are not selling for that amount any longer..... >>
$600 on 10/16
$580 on 11/13 >>
Exactly...If you read my post, it clearly said: "The last one sold on 11/13 for over $500 & none have sold for over $500 since....
I see some for sale on the BST and it seems like some of the sellers aren't able to sell them very quickly and the prices are in the low 400s.
Many members on this forum that now it cannot fit in my signature. Please ask for entire list.
Yes, the prices have softened a bit, tough times all over.
Hopefully Obama's magic wand will cure this recession.
Scott
Yea, right!!!!
<< <i><<has anyone noticed a price drop and demand?>>
Yes, the prices have softened a bit, tough times all over.
Hopefully Obama's magic wand will cure this recession.
Scott >>
BO-Magic!!!
I'd settle for a decision or two.
<< <i><<has anyone noticed a price drop and demand?>>
Yes, the prices have softened a bit, tough times all over.
Hopefully Obama's magic wand will cure this recession.
Scott >>
Fred, Las Vegas, NV
<< <i>Where's Tony??? >>
TONY!TONY!TONY!TONY!TONY!
<< <i>Where's Tony??? >>
In his last posting on August 5 he said he only had 4 08/07's left. He probably sold and moved on.....
<< <i>Non First Strike 69's are tanking .... recent sales are below $400. How low will they go? >>
7 million posts on this thread and now we are depending on "First Strike?"
I am truly happy my one and only Nanney is "First Strike!" ;
and I just keep hearing the folks on these boards who say "It's only profit if you take it."
Unfortunately, I think eBay is the best venue to sell this right now. There is one auction-style 70
on eBay right now that ends in 4 days. I'm watching it and hoping it goes for around 2K.
I don't want to get killed with fees.
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<< <i>
<< <i>Non First Strike 69's are tanking .... recent sales are below $400. How low will they go? >>
7 million posts on this thread and now we are depending on "First Strike?"
I am truly happy my one and only Nanney is "First Strike!" ; >>
The brilliant public is out there maxing out what CCs they have left buying Holiday crap they don't need for people who don't want it.. diverting money they'd spend on stuff for themselves to gifts for other people.. money they don't have, but they're willing to go deeper into debt at obscene Interest rates to make themselves look generous.. so the CC companies' head Scrooges can rub their hands in glee.. but what do I know.. I'm only a Nobel Prize-winning economist.. {{giggle}}.. thus, I suspect that these coins are dropping a bit due to seasonal Holiday buying frenzy..
I was watching The Suzy Orman show last weekend and she had a woman on, one of these typical "Housewives of Orange County" types.. begging Suzy to advise her how to get out of the CC Hell she had gotten herself into.. she had $230,000.00 in CC debt (that is NOT a typo).. had over 20 CCs, bought herself about $2k in jewelry every month, she has no job, but her old man brings in $9k a month.. they live in a $1 million house so between the mortgage payments and the CC payments, she's writing $20,000.00 in checks every month (that is not a typo).. to make the payments.. putting them over $10,000.00 deeper in the hole every month.. yet despite Suzy's best efforts, this woman was unwilling to take her advice to sell the house and move into an apartment, so she could start paying down the CC debt.. she told Suzy she liked to indulge herself (and just looking at her, you could tell she spent God knows how much on hair, nails, clothing, jewelry..) .. Suzy couldn't convince her that the right thing to do was immediately sell the house and was just
I'm sure this isn't an isolated incident.. there are a lot of people like that out there..
So.. join the crowd.. my Birthday is this Friday..
Harv
- John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
<< <i>Any consensus on how many of these are out there? I would presume that there is at least 2.5 to 3 times as many as what the grading services have graded so far >>
Not a consensus but from the US Mint there were 47,000 minted. This is not really a new announcement.......
<< <i>Actually, 46,318.........You gotta read the thread...
Thanks Casman. I still have 3 of the 46,318.
And no, the Mint never responded to my 'additional' questions, which
were really just the same ones we asked the first time around.
Maybe it's about time I send them another letter and keep pestering
them until they at least acknowledge it. I suppose if I send them the
letter each week it wouldn't take too long for a response.
But of course, it would just say something like "We believe we
answered all of your questions and the U.S. Mint stands by
it's numbers."
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