THE OFFICIAL 2006 TOPPS HERITAGE POST!!!!!

joestalin · February 27, 2006 5:15AM

The Heritage Gods have spoken..on my Birthday too! I am sitting in the middle of my living room around a pile of yellow wrappers. I have
opened around 5 boxes right now, out of 8. So far not a lot of surprises. The base set is amazing to look at. I know there are
others out there opening on their lunch hour. I look forward to a great season of trading, pics and stories!

Let the REAL games begin!!!!

JS

Jaypers · February 27, 2006 5:19AM

Kevin: could you please tell us if Cameron Maybin is included in the checklist or not? No one on the Beckett boards has answered this question so far. (He's not supposed to be included btw, as he's not on the 40-man roster, ala Alex Gordon).

Thanks.

Stone193 · February 27, 2006 5:23AM

Happy Birthday Kevin!!!!

mike

joestalin · February 27, 2006 5:23AM

Maybin has been replaced with Tom Gorzelanny...that sucks, actually at first glance most of the listed rookies in the pre sale sheets
are now gone, replaced by other "rookies" or vets.

Kevin

Jaypers · February 27, 2006 5:25AM

Thanks. Interesting how they managed to yank Maybin, yet kept Alex Gordon in (there's a "cutout" error card of him on eBay right now).

joestalin · February 27, 2006 5:28AM

a cut out in heritage?? I know about the topps one, pulled it myself but heritage?

Kevin

ToppsHeritageLover · February 27, 2006 5:29AM

The SP list is out

Jaypers · February 27, 2006 5:29AM

<< <i>a cut out in heritage?? I know about the topps one, pulled it myself but heritage?

Kevin >>

I don't know how to link here yet, but here it is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2006-Topps-Heritage-ALEX-GORDON-CUT-ERROR-255-RC-HOT_W0QQitemZ8771802688QQcategoryZ98014QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It's only a matter of time before we see a "complete" Gordon error card, just as we saw in Topps Series 1.

StarWarsFan2003 · February 27, 2006 5:30AM

JStalin, Happy B-day man, and grats on breaking Heritage today

Please do me a favor. Hwnever you geta chance, could you scan and email me the checklists so I can update my Excel sheet and forward it on to Mudflap to host on his site? Thanks man, and best of luck

EDIT: Good to see you here Jaypers, was wondering how long it would take you to come over to the "Dark Side"

mudflap02 · February 27, 2006 5:41AM

ON MY WAY TO GET 4 BOXES HAPPY BIRHDAY KEVIN

joestalin · February 27, 2006 5:48AM

well Im done, not a whole lot of bang for the buck. I did get lucky and pull a red real one auto..of Joe Margoneri. The autos are
impossible to pull 1:366 for the real one autos (thanks topps). I also pulled a Persall legends auto. My best pull was probaby a
Nomar Black Ref. Also pulled a Jeter Ref

If you like the thrill of the chase and lots of nice photos then you will like this stuff. If you are looking for all that and more, you will
be disapointed. Topps has tweaked the odds on the chrome refrators to 1:33. The blacks to 1:328 and the autos odds to 1:366
You aren't even guarenteed a GU a box.

Perhaps the think that urks me the most is the completly different checklist that came out. Most of the rookeis are gone. I guess topps
is making the decision on who to include in the set AFTER the sale sheets are handed out and AFTER the cards are printed. This isn't
good.

Well, its time to look at everything, and that is the best part. A few observations so far:

1) In each box I have a few packs that had been ripped open..hmmm
2) The picture of Bonds is the SAME pic they used in 02, just cropped in...cmon topps
3) Predictability....the checklist/GU packs are all in the same row as are the chromes..boooo
4) Did I mention the base set is amazing? They are now calling Boomer Wells, David..BOOOOOOO

I should have some more numbers up later. Thanks

Kevin

ArchStanton · February 27, 2006 6:01AM

Happy Birthday, Kevin. It's my Mom's birthday too - as well as my dog's.

My two local shops got theirs in today. One guy would part with a box for $85. I passed. The other dealer sold me two boxes for just under $130. I called the dealer that is getting my case. He said it did not come in today. I'll have to savor the two boxes I got...after work.

Pharber · February 27, 2006 6:24AM

Here is the list

1 David OrtizBoston Red Sox.
2 Mike PiazzaN.Y. Mets.
10 Barry BondsS.F. Giants.
18 Pedro MartinezN.Y. Mets.
20 Andruw JonesAtlanta Braves.
23 Derek JeterN.Y. Yankees.
25 Randy JohnsonN.Y. Yankees.
35 Wily Mo PenaCincinnati Reds.
55 Derrek LeeChicago Cubs.
70 Bobby AbreuPhiladelphia Phillies
76 Jason BayPittsburgh Pirates.
80 Tim HudsonAtlanta Braves.
80 Tim HudsonAtlanta Braves. (name variation)
91 Chris SnellingSeattle Mariners.
95 Alex RodriguezNew York Yankees.
95 Alex RodriguezNew York Yankees.
99 Brian JordanAtlanta Braves.
106 Bengie MolinaAngels.
123 Humberto CotaPittsburgh Pirates.
127 Joe NathanMinnesota Twins.
165 Alex S. GonzalezTampa Bay Devil Rays.
200 Roger ClemensHouston Astros. (Photo variation)
200 Roger ClemensHouston Astros. (Photo variation)
212 Rocco BaldelliTampa Bay Devil Rays.
265 Jose Contrasas White Sox
266 Tadahito IguchiChicago White Sox.
267 Mark LorettaSan Diego Padres.
268 Ray DurhamSan Francisco Giants.
269 Neifi PerezChicago Cubs.
271 Troy GlausArizona Diamonbacks.
272 Matt HollidayColorado Rockies.
273 Kevin MillwoodCleveland Indians.
274 Jon LieberPhiladelphia Phillies.
276 Jeremy ReedSeattle Mariners.
277 Garrett AtkinsColorado Rockies.
278 Geoff JenkinsMilwaukee Brewers.
279 Joey GathrightTampa Bay Devil Rays.
280 Ben SheetsMilwaukee Brewers.
281 Melvin MoraBaltimore Orioles.
282 Jon Paplebon, Red Sox
283 John SmoltzAtlanta Braves.
284 Jake PeavySan Diego Padres.
285 Felix HernandezSeattle Mariners.
286 Alfonso SorianoTexas Rangers.
287 Bronson ArroyoBoston Red Sox.
288 Adam LaRocque Braves
289 Aramis RamirezChicago Cubs.
290 Brad HennesseySan Francisco Giants.
291 Conor JacksonArizona Diamonbacks.
292 Rod Barajas Rangers.
293 Chris YoungTexas Rangers.
294 Jeremy BondermanDetroit Tigers.
295 Jack WilsonPittsburgh Pirates.
296 Jay PaytonOakland A'S.
297 Danys BaezTampa Bay Devil Rays.
298 Jose LimaKansas City Royals.
299 Luis A. GonzalezColorado Rockies.
300 Mike SweeneyKansas City Royals.
301 Nelson CruzDetroit Tigers.
302 Eric GagneL.A. Dodgers.
303 Juan CastroMinnesota Twins.
304 Joe MauerMinnesota Twins.
305 Richie Sexton Brewers.
306 Roy OswaltHouston Astros.
307 Rickie WeeksMilwaukee Brewers.
308 Pat BordersSeattle Mariners.
309 Mike MorseSeattle Mariners.
310 Matt StairsKansas City Royals.
311 Chad TracyArizona Diamonbacks.
312 Matt CainSan Francisco Giants.
313 Mark MulderSt. Louis Cardinals.
314 Mark GrudzielanekSt. Louis Cardinals.
315 Johnny DamonYANKEE UNI
316 Casey KotchmanAngels.
318 Chris BurkeHouston Astros.
319 Carl CrawfordTampa Bay Devil Rays.
320 Edgar Renteria ORIOLES UNI.
321 CHAN HO PARK INSTEAD OF Jacob MarceauxFlorida Marlins.
322 Boston Red Sox team card
323 Robinson CanoNew York Yankees.
325 Miguel TejadaBaltimore Orioles. (PHOTO VARIATION
325 Miguel TejadaBaltimore Orioles.
326 Jimmy RollinsPhiladelphia Phillies.
327 Juan PierreFlorida Marlins.
328 Dan JohnsonOakland A'S.
330 Pat BurrellPhiladelphia Phillies.
331 Ramon OrtizCincinnati Reds.
332 Rondell WhiteDetroit Tigers.
333 David WellsBoston Red Sox.
334 Michael YoungTexas Rangers.
335 Mike MussinaN.Y. Yankees.
336 Moises AlouS.F. Giants.
337 Scott PodsednikChicago White Sox.
338 Rich HardenOakland A'S.
339 Mark TeahenKansas City Royals.
340 Jacque JonesMinnesota Twins.
341 Jason GiambiNew York Yankees.
342 Bill Hall Twins.
343 Jon GarlandChicago White Sox.
344 Dontrelle WillisFlorida Marlins.
345 Danny HarenOakland A'S.
346 Brian GilesSan Diego Padres.
347 Brad PennyLos Angeles Dodgers.
348 Brandon MccarthyChicago White Sox.
349 Chien-Ming WangNew York Yankees.
350 Torii HunterMinnesota Twins.
350 Torii HunterMinnesota Twins. Name variation
351 Yency Braz Dodgers
352 Rodrigo LopezBaltimore Orioles.
400 Roy Oswalt/ Astro Aces
401 Mike CameronNew York Mets.
407 Jermaine Dy/ White Sox Power Hitters
475 Huston StreetOakland A'S.

ArnyVee · February 27, 2006 6:24AM

Sheesh....I hope I do better in my 1/2 case!

Those cutout cards have no value to me, but the Alex Gordon is already over $40. My goodness.

joestalin · February 27, 2006 6:28AM

The first topps Alex Gordon card is over 1000. bucks right now and I don't see why this one wouldn't get there. Why have a MLBPA
agreement when topps is not going by it?

Kevin

ArnyVee · February 27, 2006 6:33AM

Over $1000?! I just don't believe it. That's amazing.

Kabir75 · February 27, 2006 6:33AM

Kevin,

Congratulations.

By any chance can you post a picture of the Daric Barton Card, I have been dying to see another card of his.

Thanks

joestalin · February 27, 2006 6:45AM

Kabir

Bad news, Barton has been cut off the checklist. Sorry

Kevin

iamthegreatcornholio · February 27, 2006 7:09AM

Happy Birthday Kevin - Good luck with your pulls!

Robby · February 27, 2006 7:31AM

Kevin................How good is the collation of completing a set with a case of Heritage ! I bought a case from Blowout Cards for a presale price of $510.00 ( S+H included ) , still waiting for confirmation on when it's supposed to be shipped , soon ,I hope ! Went to a local card show Sunday , hoping to buy some Heritage , but the main card show promoter there , said he would not get his in till next week !

...................Do you think the price's for a hobby box will mantain the $70.00 to $90.00 price range that it's selling for now ' or will Topp's flood the market and get greedy and bring the price down with to much production ? Happy Birthday !!!! ..........Robbie

Knuckles · February 27, 2006 7:49AM

Best of luck and happy birthday!

joestalin · February 27, 2006 8:08AM

Thanks to all, I really wasn't expecting Heritage this soon, but it was a nice surprise. I have gone thorough half my case and have pulled the
sp's. I am only averaging 11 SP's a box..I may have missed a few but it looks like the 1:2 ratio may even be a bit longer.

I have two favorite cards out of this set. First is Nick Swisher holding the bat out towards the outfield, calling his shot. The second
is the Jeter card...stunning. I really haven't sat down with this set at all, but just opening packs was nice. I now realize that
my 500/case rate was a decent one. I was too gun shy to preorder this stuff.

As far as collation goes, a quick run though of my short prints in those 4 boxes have yielded NO doubles, so that is good. One thing of
not is that the now and then set is printed on a different paper stock..it almost looks like it survived from the 57 season!!

I took some scans of the checklists, but they are too small, I will try to get some pics up tonight, of course there is already much
on ebay. I can't wait to get this set in a binder!!!

Where is Loth????

Kevin

kuhlmann · February 27, 2006 8:11AM

SO whats the deal with the cut out card # 255. i open a box today. wife bought me 2 box from a shop.. I got the cut out card, I also got the black ref of hudson st. 15 sp's from that list on this thread. and an ernie banks seat card.

What is this cutout card worth?

mudflap02 · February 27, 2006 8:17AM

Not sure if Baldelli is an SP - got one in the same pack as a Piazza, and I already have 2 Baldellis.

Pharber · February 27, 2006 8:49AM

Baldelli is suppose to be a name variation. I dunno what, maybe Rocky and Rocco. One of them is the SP

Edit: According to Beckett web site, it is the name is in Blue letters. That's the variation. It's difficult for variations when you don't have old logos and new logos.

Lothar52 · February 27, 2006 9:36AM

I am here...waiting for my case this week from LRCards...anyone esle recieved their case from them??

Loth

mudflap02 · February 27, 2006 9:45AM

Some variations. Also the Lofton card is pretty funny.

mudflap02 · February 27, 2006 9:53AM

softparade · February 27, 2006 10:15AM

you guys all suck. My case is nowhere in sight.

Pharber · February 27, 2006 10:46AM

I have a couple of cases coming from LRCARDs. I emailed him today. He said they are supposed to be released tomorrow and he even emailed me the UPS tracking number.

softparade · February 27, 2006 10:48AM

Mine is coming from lrcards. Are THEY receiving cards tomorrow and THEN mailing out Pharber?

RipublicaninMass · February 27, 2006 10:50AM

Still no retail yet at Target as of 8:30 EST

ToppsHeritageLover · February 27, 2006 10:59AM

I just snagged this for a $15 BIN

I don't bust wax any more - yes it is fun as hell but I do not get as much bang for my collecting buck

detroitfan2 · February 27, 2006 10:59AM

<<2) The picture of Bonds is the SAME pic they used in 02, just cropped in...cmon topps>>

I think it may be the only picture on the planet which shows Bonds smiling, maybe that's why they used it again.

fur72 · February 27, 2006 11:38AM

Wow I had no intention of purchasing this set. These cards are sharp. I need some. Anyone got a scan of the Hudson name varitaion?

joestalin · February 27, 2006 11:47AM

OK here are the totals of my case break

192 packs

chromes (1:9) Expected 22 Pulled: 21 no doubles
chrome refs (1:33) Expected 6 Pulled: 5 no doubles
black refs (1:328) Expected 0 Pulled: 1 (Nomar)
Bat cards

(Lee, Cabrara, Vladdy)
Real One Blue AU:0
Real One Red: 1
Team Topps AU: 1 (Piersall)

Then and Now (1:15) Expected: 13 Pulled: 11 4 doubles
Flashbacks: (1:12) Expected: 16 Pulled: 16 7 doubles
New Age (1:15) Expected 13 Pulled 12 1 double
SP's (1:2) Expected 96 Pulled: 91 14 doubles

Overall I came in a little below the odds on everyone of the subsets and the sp's. Also the chromes....if you were going into this attempting
a chrome set, its going to be even harder this year. By my math, you pulled one of the big three (blue au/red au or black ref) every 10th box..so I
guess I did ok, but the huge checklists make nailing a great case very hard. Topps ran the presses here and there is 20% more of this
stuff out there than last year.

I can't wait to see some other breaks. I haven't put the commons in order yet.

Kevin

joestalin · February 27, 2006 11:48AM

Let me know if the sp's you pulled are FT and also the cut out. Thanks

Kevin

lowstartmick · February 27, 2006 11:56AM

I want my freakin' Heritage..........Blowout apparently shipped a bunch of cases on Friday but I guess mine didn't go out.....

Pharber · February 27, 2006 12:02PM

I believe they are middle men. Last year for instance. I order cards from LRCARDS and they weren't shipped from their home base in upstate New York, but they came from Tennessee.

Pharber · February 27, 2006 12:06PM

UPDATE UPDATE!!!!
My cards left Tinton Falls, N.J., tonight at 9 p.m. (according to track number) and are expected to reach Weymouth, MA tomorrow!!!!!!

softparade · February 27, 2006 12:11PM

<< <i>UPDATE UPDATE!!!!
My cards left Tinton Falls, N.J., tonight at 9 p.m. (according to track number) and are expected to reach Weymouth, MA tomorrow!!!!!! >>

Tinton Falls? Man, that is 30 minutes from my house. I hope mine are coming tomorrow.

Pharber · February 27, 2006 12:19PM

If you got them from LRCARDS, email Larry and he'll send you the tracking number, go to UPS.com and find out where they are.

softparade · February 27, 2006 12:21PM

yep, I just e-mailed him. I have no patience

joestalin · February 27, 2006 12:26PM

what were you guys buying it presale at? under 500?

Kevin

ToppsHeritageLover · February 27, 2006 12:28PM

blowout had hobby at $480 presale back in late december

Georgetown had it at $500 hobby and $400 retail as late as a month ago - sold out on reatil now and hobby is $600

ArnyVee · February 27, 2006 12:30PM

What's in the retail boxes/cases that's not in the hobby cases?

Golfcollector · February 27, 2006 12:31PM

Hey guys!

While (as my name indicates) I normally collect vintage golf cards, I have an 8 week old son at home and realized that my possiblity of collecting the vintage sets of the 50's will be way out of my means by the time he is old enough to get into collecting on his own.

I am just starting to collect the topps heritage sets. I plan on going back and getting all the issues from 2001-2005 as well. If any of you have any thoughts on a good source of these cards let me know. I know all about the SP's etc. All I have is a few from the 2001 set and the 2003 sets.

Tonight I opened two boxes tonight of the 06 heritage. I did pull 2 refractors (vlad included) and received an ichiro and the COmmisioners chrome as well. Also pulled two game used relic cards (no one important) and a real one auto of Dusty Rhodes. Pretty good for 2 boxes!!!

Keep me in mind, I may be willing to trade these for SP's I need, but I haven't started sorting yet!

If any of you have a source for any of the back issue cards, let me know here or via pm.

Thanks!

Dave

ToppsHeritageLover · February 27, 2006 12:32PM

only difference between retail and hobby is hobby has chance at the 2 1 of 1 cut sigs of mantle and ted williams.
SO mathematically speaking no difference and retail for $100 less per case is a better deal. If you are a casebuster then hobby was the choice as it is out now and retail is not supposed to be out for 2 more weeks. Brent on the blowout boards got 20 cases.

I almost pulled the trigger on 20 cases of retail at $415 shipped per but then sanity came back to me before I did that.

TNP777 · February 27, 2006 12:41PM

Golfcollector - I'd be interested in both of your Game Used cards. Please LMK if they are available.

Hopefully my cases will be here tomorrow...

Geordie

joestalin · February 27, 2006 12:48PM

Golfcollector...you did VERY well, loaded if I might say. The two boxes I had big pulls in didn't even have the 3 chromes in
them, not to mention the refractors. I have a huge collection of heritage cards from 2001 to present. If you have the money
let me know.

I will again say that early retail boxes (2 row 24 count) boxes will be the ones with the money cards in them. Blister boxes will
be average at best, unless they double insert the SP's. If you don't mind paying 72 a box then wait for the early retail
boxes. I know Target and Wal Mart get them in. Keep checking this post for retail spotting! These will be HIGHLY searchable
again, so if it looks fingered walk away. Sometimes walmart keeps a box or two wrapped for box sale, but they don't last
long. Target usually contracts one guy to refill all the stores, so if you find one at one store chance are they all got them in
so grab your car keys and your map!

I just put 1-100 in order and am proud to announce that there were no holes! Woo hoo!!

Kevin

ToppsHeritageLover · February 27, 2006 12:53PM

Retail was supposed to be 3/13 release - 2 weeks after hobby
However after the topps base retail released BEFORE hobby - start looking now - you never know

FWIW - i was at Target and Walmart for basic home supplies tonight and saw nothing yet.

I try to buy/trade for singles/lost and avoid wax but if i see it i know i will collapse and buy it all out. I am a weak, weak man....

Lets hope for 14 SP 8 pack blasters like 2004

THE OFFICIAL 2006 TOPPS HERITAGE POST!!!!!

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