I think they give Mayo another season, they are rebuilding and didn't plan on this season being a success other than Maye showing progress.
The team is a disaster and needs to get some new pieces, the WR corp and OL is horrible, Vrable wouldn't have done much better with this squad
Agreed, with everything above. Vrabel/McDaniels was my best-case scenario before we heard that Mayo was hired and there are reports over this past week that they both would be interested in the HC & OC positions if they become available.
Also, I doubt that the Kraft's would want to pay Mayo's remaining contract money while also paying another HC after they just paid 20-25M for Belichick in 2024.
Sidenote: Looks like Barmore's previous issues with blood clots have returned and he's now likely done for the season. Horrible luck for him this year.
@bronco2078 said:
everything the krafts do revolves around avoiding spending money
tight fisted cretins
It sounds like a replay of the Sullivan era without the surprise break-outs in the standings now and then.
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@perkdog said:
Well the moment was just too. big for them to play big boy football. in Buffalo
The one thing that still sticks out is why the hell do a backwards pass to all knuckles Stephenson when your so deep in your own territory?
^
I thought the play calling in the first half was pretty good but we never adjusted to what Buffalo did in the second half. It also didn't help that we lost focus in that second half (Stevenson fumble, Mapu's brainfart INT in the endzone and that horrible lateral pass.)
With all of the negativity around whether Mayo should keep his job or not I've thought that Alex van Pelt was definitely playing for his over these final three weeks. At the very least the Kraft's will find some sort of scapegoat to move on from and it could up being AVP. I would definitely be replacing the OL coach, Scott Peters regardless of what happens with Van Pelt.
Just dont mess around and win a game. Theres a pretty good chance they can get Hunter if they lose out especially if the Jags and Browns win a game. Maye and Hunter together would be a very big problem for other teams
@Basebal21 said:
Just dont mess around and win a game. Theres a pretty good chance they can get Hunter if they lose out especially if the Jags and Browns win a game. Maye and Hunter together would be a very big problem for other teams
They’re not on the field to lose. Respect to the Raiders, they suck but they went out and won a game and had the integrity to not tank.
Respect to the Pats also nobody thought they were going to be a part of that game with the Bills but they put up a good fight.
The only scenario where I could see NE possibly winning one of their two finals games is if Buffalo decides to rest Allen and most of the starters for that final game in NE. not likely though because the Bills are still playing for the #1 seed in the AFC. If KC wins at Pittsburgh next week, that 1st seed is then locked up,
Even if NE lands a top 2-3 pick I'd expect them to find a trade partner somewhere in that 4-8 range looking for a QB (NYG,NYJ,TEN,CLE,LVR could all realistically be looking for a QB with a move up.) The Pats offense still has way too many holes to fill (LT/RT/C/WR1) to feel that they shouldn't trade back. LG Layden Robinson & RG Michael Onwenu are their only two starting caliber O-Linemen.
The Browns are probably stuck with Watson for now with that contract. Vegas is going to take a QB likely Sanders. Ward is the other QB that will go really high which the Giants probably take if the Raiders go with Sanders or take Sanders if they go with Ward. Titans are a wild card if theyre ready to give up on Levis which they should. Id say the Browns and Jags are the two biggest threats to pick off someone like Hunter given this is a weak QB class and they have big contracts on QBs already. Ewers might be tempting for someone to move back in the draft but has a significant injury history that might scare some teams away.
I would like to see Hunter paired up with one of the young QBs like Maye and see what they can do together
IMO, our Offensive Line is a much bigger need than WR. The Pats have been rolling out Practice Squad Jags as their starting O-linemen for months now.
Hunter would still be a great pick though, I would definitely be happy if he was the pick but Drake's their future and they need to protect him over everything else,
I definitely wouldnt argue against Campbell or Banks the two elite tackles in the draft who wont last very long. Williams the other tackle at Texas with Banks will probably be a first rounder too. Campbell is probably the best pass protector of the group but if the season ended today they could certainly trade down with the Raiders and get one of them or Hunter. If they win a game Williams will probably be the only one left
Best case scenario for us would be land the 1st overall pick and have the Titans, Browns & Giants in whatever order in spots 2-3-4 who all need a QB. The Pats could offer that #1 to the highest bidder and likely still land Travis Hunter along with additional pick(s) if they don't drop farther than the 3rd pick (Sanders & Ward would likely be the top two picks.)
Its going to be interesting to see if the Bengals actually let Tee Higgins walk in free agency instead of using the franchise tag on him. NE is expected to have 132M and could offer him a top of the market type of contract while still having enough cap space to overpay on other FA's.
Outside of Higgins the rest of the FA WR market are mostly on the older side in Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Keenan Allen, Brandin Cooks, Mike Williams, Robert Woods & Amari Cooper. Higgins, Chris Godwin, Hollywood Brown & Diontae Johnson are the best of the under-30 wideouts.
The FA OL market is either mostly on the older side like Zack Martin/Tyron Smith or unproven younger linemen that likely aren't immediate upgrades.
If we wanted to go the full fantasy route, go sign Tee Higgins in free agency then dropping down from 1st overall to pick #3,landing Travis Hunter along with a couple of day 2 picks then using their four day 2 picks on the OL. At that point we'd have two new starting wideouts and a brand new offensive line,
(I know I know, much easier said than done and knowing this organization's history outside of the Brady years, they'd still find a way to muck it all up lol. One could only dream though. 😎)
I know that hunter is highly regarded as a 2 way player. we all know he will not do that once he enters the league. is he worth such a high pick as either a WR or a DB?
I've read that he'd be considered a solid #1 WR or #1 CB in the NFL but he wouldn't be considered as one of the best of the best for either position, at least right away. If he came to NE I think his best value here would be as their WR1 and maybe moonlight as a CB in certain situations.
@erikthredd said:
I've read that he'd be considered a solid #1 WR or #1 CB in the NFL but he wouldn't be considered as one of the best of the best for either position, at least right away. If he came to NE I think his best value here would be as their WR1 and maybe moonlight as a CB in certain situations.
My thoughts as well
His size concerns me, he is listed at 185 pounds, not trying to get another Tyguan Thornton
This is an article in my nfl preview magazine about the best draft steals in history. Out of those 6 qb’s drafted ahead of Brady I only remember Pennington and Bulger. Any of you guys remember any of the others?
@erikthredd said:
I've read that he'd be considered a solid #1 WR or #1 CB in the NFL but he wouldn't be considered as one of the best of the best for either position, at least right away. If he came to NE I think his best value here would be as their WR1 and maybe moonlight as a CB in certain situations.
Hew would be the first off the board for DB and a first rounder for WR if he only did one or the other. He managed to beat the odds and play basically every snap this year. Hes special and basically all he does is workout, football, and video games. I have my doubts that he could play that much in the NFL, but hes the most legit two way player we have ever seen
Of course if someone wants to sell the farm to trade up take it, but I would be very excited about Hunter and Maye together. At the very least he will get the majority of the attention from defenses and help everyone else get open
With Buffalo likely going to rest players and NE needing to lose to hold onto that 1st overall pick this would be the perfect time to take a look at not only Joe Milton but all of their younger players. The front office will need to make a decision on whether or not to bring back Brissett next season, might as well throw Joe out there in an actual game.
@erikthredd said:
With Buffalo likely going to rest players and NE needing to lose to hold onto that 1st overall pick this would be the perfect time to take a look at not only Joe Milton but all of their younger players. The front office will need to make a decision on whether or not to bring back Brissett next season, might as well throw Joe out there in an actual game.
They should start Milton and the rest of the non starters, not to tank but see what they got even though it's not going to be against regulars
@erikthredd said:
With Buffalo likely going to rest players and NE needing to lose to hold onto that 1st overall pick this would be the perfect time to take a look at not only Joe Milton but all of their younger players. The front office will need to make a decision on whether or not to bring back Brissett next season, might as well throw Joe out there in an actual game.
They should start Milton and the rest of the non starters, notto tank but see what they got even though it's not going to be against regulars
They should definitely be tanking this final game at this point, they gain nothing by winning that game. Win or Lose the media here will rip Mayo, the front office and ownership regardless of which outcome. Just make sure that they head into the offseason with that first overall pick.
@erikthredd said:
With Buffalo likely going to rest players and NE needing to lose to hold onto that 1st overall pick this would be the perfect time to take a look at not only Joe Milton but all of their younger players. The front office will need to make a decision on whether or not to bring back Brissett next season, might as well throw Joe out there in an actual game.
They should start Milton and the rest of the non starters, notto tank but see what they got even though it's not going to be against regulars
They should definitely be tanking this final game at this point, they gain nothing by winning that game. Win or Lose the media here will rip Mayo, the front office and ownership regardless of which outcome. Just make sure that they head into the offseason with that first overall pick.
I just have a problem with any team or player going out there and trying to lose.
I will be happy if they lose for the first pick but there are no guarantees with Travis Hunter.
We will be facing Mitchell Trubitsky anyways I think so it will be tough to lose to that clown
@erikthredd said:
With Buffalo likely going to rest players and NE needing to lose to hold onto that 1st overall pick this would be the perfect time to take a look at not only Joe Milton but all of their younger players. The front office will need to make a decision on whether or not to bring back Brissett next season, might as well throw Joe out there in an actual game.
They should start Milton and the rest of the non starters, notto tank but see what they got even though it's not going to be against regulars
They should definitely be tanking this final game at this point, they gain nothing by winning that game. Win or Lose the media here will rip Mayo, the front office and ownership regardless of which outcome. Just make sure that they head into the offseason with that first overall pick.
I just have a problem with any team or player going out there and trying to lose.
Players wont, its their money and future on the line. Bench Maye and say its health concerns which really isnt that far off. Maybe mix in a bad play here or there trying new things evaluating players etc and itll take care of itself
@erikthredd said:
With Buffalo likely going to rest players and NE needing to lose to hold onto that 1st overall pick this would be the perfect time to take a look at not only Joe Milton but all of their younger players. The front office will need to make a decision on whether or not to bring back Brissett next season, might as well throw Joe out there in an actual game.
They should start Milton and the rest of the non starters, notto tank but see what they got even though it's not going to be against regulars
They should definitely be tanking this final game at this point, they gain nothing by winning that game. Win or Lose the media here will rip Mayo, the front office and ownership regardless of which outcome. Just make sure that they head into the offseason with that first overall pick.
I just have a problem with any team or player going out there and trying to lose.
I will be happy if they lose for the first pick but there are no guarantees with Travis Hunter.
We will be facing Mitchell Trubitsky anyways I think so it will be tough to lose to that clown
The players would never be out there purposely trying to lose, that would be done by the coaching staff with their lineups.
It would look like this...
Give Drake a series or two at most then let Milton take over.
Start Polk & Baker at WR, Terrell Jennings at RB and rookie Jaheim Bell at TE.
Take a long last look at all of their PS offensive linemen that they've had to start numerous times.
Do the same on defense with some of their younger lesser known players not named Gonzalez or White.
Play the vets on both sides of the ball a series or two before going with strictly back of the roster players.
Spend some more time with Cole Strange at center to see if his best fit would be there in 2025 with David Andrews a potential cap casualty after missing 13 games.
At that point no one is actually trying to lose, you'd just be giving yourself less of a chance at winning that Bills game. How that game goes is still important because Mayo would be making that final evaluation of roughly half of their 2024 roster before making changes in the offseason.
People see the word 'Tank' and just assume everyone is told to either quit or to just half-ass it on the field but that is so far from the truth, just treat it like a preseason game. The score doesn't matter, we're just evaluating guys.
In fact, if Mayo went into this weekend making it known to everyone (players & media both) that their plan for week 17 is to just assess the players lower down the depth chart, he'd probably earn some of that respect that BGR thinks is missing.
@craig44 said:
they 100% need to tank this game. what is to gain by winning?
Respect.
If NE beats Buffalo on Sunday there won't be any respect going Mayo's way, it would be nothing but criticism on the level that the Giants are dealing with this week after moving themselves out of position for the 1st overall pick. They're getting creamed by the media for finishing that game with a worthless Win.
A NE loss puts them in the most valuable position that they could possibly wish to be in heading into the draft. There aren't any guarantees that they'll find a trade partner but they'd own the most valuable trade chip to barter with.
It's funny but would that piss you off if all that came together like that lol
I like Maye but would actually give that whole thing a thought
I'd rather stick with Maye, draft Hunter and run it back again with Mayo (or go with Vrabel.) There'd be no telling when Deion might want to jump ship and with his son soon behind.
I thought they left Maye in too long against the Chargers. No use keeping him in there in such a bad blow out. Let him sit out the last game he’s proved he can play
@Darin said:
I thought they left Maye in too long against the Chargers. No use keeping him in there in such a bad blow out. Let him sit out the last game he’s proved he can play
It literally makes no sense to play him this week, we got another rookie on the bench that hasn't seen a snap
But again Coaches have this way of doing the most dumbest things.
I suggested letting him play a series or two above and going with Joe Milton. They need to start thinking about who will be their backup QB for 2025 so might as well get a good look at Milton in real live game action. Putting Joe in on their 2nd or 3rd series would at least simulate how he may enter the game as Maye's backup if Drake were to get hurt.
Brissett was paid 8M to come here and be the temporary starter until Maye was ready. He went 1-4 as the starter but did play a huge part in helping the team get their 2nd win in a late game comeback against the Jets after Drake got hurt. Milton will cost just 1M next season and with the cap space that they're expected to have (132M) they could afford to bring back Brissett, or they could just use that difference towards improving other positions which is what I'd prefer.
It's funny but would that piss you off if all that came together like that lol
I like Maye but would actually give that whole thing a thought
It would take more than just Maye to get that done. You wpuldnt like Deion as a coach either especially not when his sons on the team who hes shown absurd favoritism too at Colorado
It's funny but would that piss you off if all that came together like that lol
I like Maye but would actually give that whole thing a thought
It would take more than just Maye to get that done. You wpuldnt like Deion as a coach either especially not when his sons on the team who hes shown absurd favoritism too at Colorado
I don't know much about it but Shadeur played very well, what's the story with the favoritism?
It's funny but would that piss you off if all that came together like that lol
I like Maye but would actually give that whole thing a thought
It would take more than just Maye to get that done. You wpuldnt like Deion as a coach either especially not when his sons on the team who hes shown absurd favoritism too at Colorado
I don't know much about it but Shadeur played very well, what's the story with the favoritism?
Pretty much all the transfers including their other 5 star mentioned the favoritism as one of the reasons they left with the program revolving around Chadeur and Shilo. He has a third son that does all their social media and one of the examples would be the Colorado players having to listing to his and Shadeurs rap songs for the music in the weight room. Not sure that would go over well with the Pats lol.
I think switching from Maye to him would be a mistake, but if they were to do it you definitely dont want Deion being the coach if they do. Plus Shadeur is a diva and showed up to their bowl game in custom Giants cleats so let him be their problem or make them trade up for him
It's funny but would that piss you off if all that came together like that lol
I like Maye but would actually give that whole thing a thought
It would take more than just Maye to get that done. You wpuldnt like Deion as a coach either especially not when his sons on the team who hes shown absurd favoritism too at Colorado
I don't know much about it but Shadeur played very well, what's the story with the favoritism?
Pretty much all the transfers including their other 5 star mentioned the favoritism as one of the reasons they left with the program revolving around Chadeur and Shilo. He has a third son that does all their social media and one of the examples would be the Colorado players having to listing to his and Shadeurs rap songs for the music in the weight room. Not sure that would go over well with the Pats lol.
I think switching from Maye to him would be a mistake, but if they were to do it you definitely dont want Deion being the coach if they do. Plus Shadeur is a diva and showed up to their bowl game in custom Giants cleats so let him be their problem or make them trade up for him
It's funny but would that piss you off if all that came together like that lol
I like Maye but would actually give that whole thing a thought
It would take more than just Maye to get that done. You wpuldnt like Deion as a coach either especially not when his sons on the team who hes shown absurd favoritism too at Colorado
I don't know much about it but Shadeur played very well, what's the story with the favoritism?
Pretty much all the transfers including their other 5 star mentioned the favoritism as one of the reasons they left with the program revolving around Chadeur and Shilo. He has a third son that does all their social media and one of the examples would be the Colorado players having to listing to his and Shadeurs rap songs for the music in the weight room. Not sure that would go over well with the Pats lol.
I think switching from Maye to him would be a mistake, but if they were to do it you definitely dont want Deion being the coach if they do. Plus Shadeur is a diva and showed up to their bowl game in custom Giants cleats so let him be their problem or make them trade up for him
Interesting
Doesn't sound like the Patriot way lol
Cocky is good for an athlete but I think hes on that other side of the line. Hes used to being the coddled star of his teams from Jackson State to Colorado and thats just not going to be the case in the NFL surrounded by stars.
Id like to just see them give the HC job to Vrabel
@erikthredd said:
With Buffalo likely going to rest players and NE needing to lose to hold onto that 1st overall pick this would be the perfect time to take a look at not only Joe Milton but all of their younger players. The front office will need to make a decision on whether or not to bring back Brissett next season, might as well throw Joe out there in an actual game.
They should start Milton and the rest of the non starters, notto tank but see what they got even though it's not going to be against regulars
They should definitely be tanking this final game at this point, they gain nothing by winning that game. Win or Lose the media here will rip Mayo, the front office and ownership regardless of which outcome. Just make sure that they head into the offseason with that first overall pick.
I just have a problem with any team or player going out there and trying to lose.
Players wont, its their money and future on the line. Bench Maye and say its health concerns which really isnt that far off. Maybe mix in a bad play here or there trying new things evaluating players etc and itll take care of itself
@craig44 said:
they 100% need to tank this game. what is to gain by winning?
Respect.
nope, in professional sports it is all about results. one meaningless win in december is nothing. draft capital is everything when a team is in this position. winning this game would be short sighted in the extreme.
@craig44 said:
they 100% need to tank this game. what is to gain by winning?
Respect.
nope, in professional sports it is all about results. one meaningless win in december is nothing. draft capital is everything when a team is in this position. winning this game would be short sighted in the extreme.
Then just forfeit the game. And next season. Get those picks. Save on salary. Soooooo. Lame.
@craig44 said:
they 100% need to tank this game. what is to gain by winning?
Respect.
nope, in professional sports it is all about results. one meaningless win in december is nothing. draft capital is everything when a team is in this position. winning this game would be short sighted in the extreme.
Especially this year with how far you can fall from one win
So Craig didn’t contradict himself? First sentence, it’s all about results, next sentence let’s go out there and show absolutely no pride and lose this one baby!
I do think they should rest Maye because no sense in him possibly suffering a serious injury that could affect him next season.
Should still try to win every single game.
@craig44 said:
they 100% need to tank this game. what is to gain by winning?
Respect.
nope, in professional sports it is all about results. one meaningless win in december is nothing. draft capital is everything when a team is in this position. winning this game would be short sighted in the extreme.
Then just forfeit the game. And next season. Get those picks. Save on salary. Soooooo. Lame.
I wish Craig were the head coach and we were privy to his pregame pep talk to the team.
That would be inspiring.
@Darin said:
So Craig didn’t contradict himself? First sentence, it’s all about results, next sentence let’s go out there and show absolutely no pride and lose this one baby!
I do think they should rest Maye because no sense in him possibly suffering a serious injury that could affect him next season.
Should still try to win every single game.
in 2025 the game is only about dollars. 99% the fault of legalized gambling and merch and 1% the fault of a certain strip mall massage parlor .
@Darin said:
So Craig didn’t contradict himself? First sentence, it’s all about results, next sentence let’s go out there and show absolutely no pride and lose this one baby!
I do think they should rest Maye because no sense in him possibly suffering a serious injury that could affect him next season.
Should still try to win every single game.
@Darin said:
So Craig didn’t contradict himself? First sentence, it’s all about results, next sentence let’s go out there and show absolutely no pride and lose this one baby!
I do think they should rest Maye because no sense in him possibly suffering a serious injury that could affect him next season.
Should still try to win every single game.
oh boy... I was assuming folks would understand my point. I guess that assumption was wrong. Let me try to S P E L L it out. Results meaning the end goal of Super Bowl victories.
Which result would help NE win its next super bowl more? Winning a meaningless game in early January or getting the first overall pick in the draft?
Should the Chiefs or Eagles play every starter for the entire game this weekend in an attempt to show "pride" or "respect" to win a meaningless game? Should those teams risk having a major injury to a key player to show "pride?"
Or would the team be better served by resting those starters.
Was it the right decision for the Eagles to bench Barkley this weekend when he is so close to the single season rushing record AND his inclusion in the game would greatly assist his team in winning the game? or is it the right decision to rest him?
Do you REALLY think a team "Should still try to win every single game?"
I think you know WAY too much about pro football to believe that statement. I think you are trying to stir the pot here.
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I think they give Mayo another season, they are rebuilding and didn't plan on this season being a success other than Maye showing progress.
The team is a disaster and needs to get some new pieces, the WR corp and OL is horrible, Vrable wouldn't have done much better with this squad
Agreed, with everything above. Vrabel/McDaniels was my best-case scenario before we heard that Mayo was hired and there are reports over this past week that they both would be interested in the HC & OC positions if they become available.
Also, I doubt that the Kraft's would want to pay Mayo's remaining contract money while also paying another HC after they just paid 20-25M for Belichick in 2024.
Sidenote: Looks like Barmore's previous issues with blood clots have returned and he's now likely done for the season. Horrible luck for him this year.
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everything the krafts do revolves around avoiding spending money
tight fisted cretins
It sounds like a replay of the Sullivan era without the surprise break-outs in the standings now and then.
Well the moment was just too to big for them to play big boy football in Buffalo
The one thing that still sticks out is why the hell do a backwards pass to all knuckles Stephenson when your so deep in your own territory?
^
I thought the play calling in the first half was pretty good but we never adjusted to what Buffalo did in the second half. It also didn't help that we lost focus in that second half (Stevenson fumble, Mapu's brainfart INT in the endzone and that horrible lateral pass.)
With all of the negativity around whether Mayo should keep his job or not I've thought that Alex van Pelt was definitely playing for his over these final three weeks. At the very least the Kraft's will find some sort of scapegoat to move on from and it could up being AVP. I would definitely be replacing the OL coach, Scott Peters regardless of what happens with Van Pelt.
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Just dont mess around and win a game. Theres a pretty good chance they can get Hunter if they lose out especially if the Jags and Browns win a game. Maye and Hunter together would be a very big problem for other teams
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They’re not on the field to lose. Respect to the Raiders, they suck but they went out and won a game and had the integrity to not tank.
Respect to the Pats also nobody thought they were going to be a part of that game with the Bills but they put up a good fight.
The only scenario where I could see NE possibly winning one of their two finals games is if Buffalo decides to rest Allen and most of the starters for that final game in NE. not likely though because the Bills are still playing for the #1 seed in the AFC. If KC wins at Pittsburgh next week, that 1st seed is then locked up,
Even if NE lands a top 2-3 pick I'd expect them to find a trade partner somewhere in that 4-8 range looking for a QB (NYG,NYJ,TEN,CLE,LVR could all realistically be looking for a QB with a move up.) The Pats offense still has way too many holes to fill (LT/RT/C/WR1) to feel that they shouldn't trade back. LG Layden Robinson & RG Michael Onwenu are their only two starting caliber O-Linemen.
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how about this guy in a Pats uni ?
https://youtube.com/shorts/OfgYs5CYzrg?si=V2YsCZI5hWNqzzrn
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
The Browns are probably stuck with Watson for now with that contract. Vegas is going to take a QB likely Sanders. Ward is the other QB that will go really high which the Giants probably take if the Raiders go with Sanders or take Sanders if they go with Ward. Titans are a wild card if theyre ready to give up on Levis which they should. Id say the Browns and Jags are the two biggest threats to pick off someone like Hunter given this is a weak QB class and they have big contracts on QBs already. Ewers might be tempting for someone to move back in the draft but has a significant injury history that might scare some teams away.
I would like to see Hunter paired up with one of the young QBs like Maye and see what they can do together
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IMO, our Offensive Line is a much bigger need than WR. The Pats have been rolling out Practice Squad Jags as their starting O-linemen for months now.
Hunter would still be a great pick though, I would definitely be happy if he was the pick but Drake's their future and they need to protect him over everything else,
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I definitely wouldnt argue against Campbell or Banks the two elite tackles in the draft who wont last very long. Williams the other tackle at Texas with Banks will probably be a first rounder too. Campbell is probably the best pass protector of the group but if the season ended today they could certainly trade down with the Raiders and get one of them or Hunter. If they win a game Williams will probably be the only one left
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The only thing the Patriots did right was to get the top pick in the draft but they will find a way to screw that up too I'm sure1
I'm not sure how I feel. about this draft position with them, is Hunter a good pick?
I think they should draft trade down and for an OL if that's feasable.
FA WR could be an option if anyone worthy is out there
Best case scenario for us would be land the 1st overall pick and have the Titans, Browns & Giants in whatever order in spots 2-3-4 who all need a QB. The Pats could offer that #1 to the highest bidder and likely still land Travis Hunter along with additional pick(s) if they don't drop farther than the 3rd pick (Sanders & Ward would likely be the top two picks.)
Its going to be interesting to see if the Bengals actually let Tee Higgins walk in free agency instead of using the franchise tag on him. NE is expected to have 132M and could offer him a top of the market type of contract while still having enough cap space to overpay on other FA's.
Outside of Higgins the rest of the FA WR market are mostly on the older side in Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Keenan Allen, Brandin Cooks, Mike Williams, Robert Woods & Amari Cooper. Higgins, Chris Godwin, Hollywood Brown & Diontae Johnson are the best of the under-30 wideouts.
The FA OL market is either mostly on the older side like Zack Martin/Tyron Smith or unproven younger linemen that likely aren't immediate upgrades.
If we wanted to go the full fantasy route, go sign Tee Higgins in free agency then dropping down from 1st overall to pick #3,landing Travis Hunter along with a couple of day 2 picks then using their four day 2 picks on the OL. At that point we'd have two new starting wideouts and a brand new offensive line,
(I know I know, much easier said than done and knowing this organization's history outside of the Brady years, they'd still find a way to muck it all up lol. One could only dream though. 😎)
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I know that hunter is highly regarded as a 2 way player. we all know he will not do that once he enters the league. is he worth such a high pick as either a WR or a DB?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I've read that he'd be considered a solid #1 WR or #1 CB in the NFL but he wouldn't be considered as one of the best of the best for either position, at least right away. If he came to NE I think his best value here would be as their WR1 and maybe moonlight as a CB in certain situations.
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My thoughts as well
His size concerns me, he is listed at 185 pounds, not trying to get another Tyguan Thornton
This is an article in my nfl preview magazine about the best draft steals in history. Out of those 6 qb’s drafted ahead of Brady I only remember Pennington and Bulger. Any of you guys remember any of the others?
I remembered Tee Martin, Giovanni Carmazzi (?) and one from the Ravens (Chris Redman.) Had to look up the last guy , Spergon Wynn by the Browns.
edit: I didn't even read that Brady blurb with the names already there, just remembered most of them from the Brady Six documentary.
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Hew would be the first off the board for DB and a first rounder for WR if he only did one or the other. He managed to beat the odds and play basically every snap this year. Hes special and basically all he does is workout, football, and video games. I have my doubts that he could play that much in the NFL, but hes the most legit two way player we have ever seen
Of course if someone wants to sell the farm to trade up take it, but I would be very excited about Hunter and Maye together. At the very least he will get the majority of the attention from defenses and help everyone else get open
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With Buffalo likely going to rest players and NE needing to lose to hold onto that 1st overall pick this would be the perfect time to take a look at not only Joe Milton but all of their younger players. The front office will need to make a decision on whether or not to bring back Brissett next season, might as well throw Joe out there in an actual game.
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They should start Milton and the rest of the non starters, not to tank but see what they got even though it's not going to be against regulars
They should definitely be tanking this final game at this point, they gain nothing by winning that game. Win or Lose the media here will rip Mayo, the front office and ownership regardless of which outcome. Just make sure that they head into the offseason with that first overall pick.
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I just have a problem with any team or player going out there and trying to lose.
I will be happy if they lose for the first pick but there are no guarantees with Travis Hunter.
We will be facing Mitchell Trubitsky anyways I think so it will be tough to lose to that clown
Players wont, its their money and future on the line. Bench Maye and say its health concerns which really isnt that far off. Maybe mix in a bad play here or there trying new things evaluating players etc and itll take care of itself
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they 100% need to tank this game. what is to gain by winning?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Respect.
The players would never be out there purposely trying to lose, that would be done by the coaching staff with their lineups.
It would look like this...
Give Drake a series or two at most then let Milton take over.
Start Polk & Baker at WR, Terrell Jennings at RB and rookie Jaheim Bell at TE.
Take a long last look at all of their PS offensive linemen that they've had to start numerous times.
Do the same on defense with some of their younger lesser known players not named Gonzalez or White.
Play the vets on both sides of the ball a series or two before going with strictly back of the roster players.
Spend some more time with Cole Strange at center to see if his best fit would be there in 2025 with David Andrews a potential cap casualty after missing 13 games.
At that point no one is actually trying to lose, you'd just be giving yourself less of a chance at winning that Bills game. How that game goes is still important because Mayo would be making that final evaluation of roughly half of their 2024 roster before making changes in the offseason.
People see the word 'Tank' and just assume everyone is told to either quit or to just half-ass it on the field but that is so far from the truth, just treat it like a preseason game. The score doesn't matter, we're just evaluating guys.
In fact, if Mayo went into this weekend making it known to everyone (players & media both) that their plan for week 17 is to just assess the players lower down the depth chart, he'd probably earn some of that respect that BGR thinks is missing.
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If NE beats Buffalo on Sunday there won't be any respect going Mayo's way, it would be nothing but criticism on the level that the Giants are dealing with this week after moving themselves out of position for the 1st overall pick. They're getting creamed by the media for finishing that game with a worthless Win.
A NE loss puts them in the most valuable position that they could possibly wish to be in heading into the draft. There aren't any guarantees that they'll find a trade partner but they'd own the most valuable trade chip to barter with.
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Lmao this is Nick Wright’s master plan for NE…
Draft Shedeur Sanders at 1
Trade Drake Maye to Tennessee for #2
Draft Travis Hunter at 2
Hire Deion Sanders to coach NE
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🤣😂🤣😆
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It's funny but would that piss you off if all that came together like that lol
I like Maye but would actually give that whole thing a thought
I'd rather stick with Maye, draft Hunter and run it back again with Mayo (or go with Vrabel.) There'd be no telling when Deion might want to jump ship and with his son soon behind.
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I thought they left Maye in too long against the Chargers. No use keeping him in there in such a bad blow out. Let him sit out the last game he’s proved he can play
It literally makes no sense to play him this week, we got another rookie on the bench that hasn't seen a snap
But again Coaches have this way of doing the most dumbest things.
I suggested letting him play a series or two above and going with Joe Milton. They need to start thinking about who will be their backup QB for 2025 so might as well get a good look at Milton in real live game action. Putting Joe in on their 2nd or 3rd series would at least simulate how he may enter the game as Maye's backup if Drake were to get hurt.
Brissett was paid 8M to come here and be the temporary starter until Maye was ready. He went 1-4 as the starter but did play a huge part in helping the team get their 2nd win in a late game comeback against the Jets after Drake got hurt. Milton will cost just 1M next season and with the cap space that they're expected to have (132M) they could afford to bring back Brissett, or they could just use that difference towards improving other positions which is what I'd prefer.
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It would take more than just Maye to get that done. You wpuldnt like Deion as a coach either especially not when his sons on the team who hes shown absurd favoritism too at Colorado
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I don't know much about it but Shadeur played very well, what's the story with the favoritism?
Pretty much all the transfers including their other 5 star mentioned the favoritism as one of the reasons they left with the program revolving around Chadeur and Shilo. He has a third son that does all their social media and one of the examples would be the Colorado players having to listing to his and Shadeurs rap songs for the music in the weight room. Not sure that would go over well with the Pats lol.
I think switching from Maye to him would be a mistake, but if they were to do it you definitely dont want Deion being the coach if they do. Plus Shadeur is a diva and showed up to their bowl game in custom Giants cleats so let him be their problem or make them trade up for him
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Interesting
Doesn't sound like the Patriot way lol
Cocky is good for an athlete but I think hes on that other side of the line. Hes used to being the coddled star of his teams from Jackson State to Colorado and thats just not going to be the case in the NFL surrounded by stars.
Id like to just see them give the HC job to Vrabel
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all we have is bad plays
nope, in professional sports it is all about results. one meaningless win in december is nothing. draft capital is everything when a team is in this position. winning this game would be short sighted in the extreme.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Then just forfeit the game. And next season. Get those picks. Save on salary. Soooooo. Lame.
Especially this year with how far you can fall from one win
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So Craig didn’t contradict himself? First sentence, it’s all about results, next sentence let’s go out there and show absolutely no pride and lose this one baby!
I do think they should rest Maye because no sense in him possibly suffering a serious injury that could affect him next season.
Should still try to win every single game.
I wish Craig were the head coach and we were privy to his pregame pep talk to the team.
That would be inspiring.
in 2025 the game is only about dollars. 99% the fault of legalized gambling and merch and 1% the fault of a certain strip mall massage parlor .
oh boy... I was assuming folks would understand my point. I guess that assumption was wrong. Let me try to S P E L L it out. Results meaning the end goal of Super Bowl victories.
Which result would help NE win its next super bowl more? Winning a meaningless game in early January or getting the first overall pick in the draft?
Should the Chiefs or Eagles play every starter for the entire game this weekend in an attempt to show "pride" or "respect" to win a meaningless game? Should those teams risk having a major injury to a key player to show "pride?"
Or would the team be better served by resting those starters.
Was it the right decision for the Eagles to bench Barkley this weekend when he is so close to the single season rushing record AND his inclusion in the game would greatly assist his team in winning the game? or is it the right decision to rest him?
Do you REALLY think a team "Should still try to win every single game?"
I think you know WAY too much about pro football to believe that statement. I think you are trying to stir the pot here.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.