@craig44 said:
very very happy to have Josh back in the fold. I dont know as much about Williams.
On a sidenote, sort of feel bad for the Lions right now. They come off they're best season in team history and their coaching staff is getting poached pretty hard.
I don't
They had 2 really solid chances at making a run for it and both times they folded like a cheap tent.
@craig44 said:
very very happy to have Josh back in the fold. I dont know as much about Williams.
He spent five years with Vrabel as his defensive line coach and in that final season together in Tennessee Vrabel made him his Assistant Head Coach. Got to believe there's a lot of trust there between the two.
On a sidenote, sort of feel bad for the Lions right now. They come off they're best season in team history and their coaching staff is getting poached pretty hard.
good to know. makes me feel better. any idea if Williams called plays on Defense or if that was Vrabel?
@craig44 said:
very very happy to have Josh back in the fold. I dont know as much about Williams.
He spent five years with Vrabel as his defensive line coach and in that final season together in Tennessee Vrabel made him his Assistant Head Coach. Got to believe there's a lot of trust there between the two.
On a sidenote, sort of feel bad for the Lions right now. They come off they're best season in team history and their coaching staff is getting poached pretty hard.
good to know. makes me feel better. any idea if Williams called plays on Defense or if that was Vrabel?
I doubt it when their DC was Shane Bowen that season. There had to be some kind of trust factor there when Williams was named Mike's assistant rather than his two coordinators. That may have some value here, or not, time will tell.
@craig44 said:
very very happy to have Josh back in the fold. I dont know as much about Williams.
On a sidenote, sort of feel bad for the Lions right now. They come off they're best season in team history and their coaching staff is getting poached pretty hard.
I don't
They had 2 really solid chances at making a run for it and both times they folded like a cheap tent.
Did you lose money on this game lol? My comment was more towards the people in the Lions organization & their fans who have waited a long time to finally see this team get out of the gutter, a lot of the coaches responsible for that change are now gone.
@craig44 said:
very very happy to have Josh back in the fold. I dont know as much about Williams.
On a sidenote, sort of feel bad for the Lions right now. They come off they're best season in team history and their coaching staff is getting poached pretty hard.
I don't
They had 2 really solid chances at making a run for it and both times they folded like a cheap tent.
Did you lose money on this game lol? My comment was more towards the people in the Lions organization & their fans who have waited a long time to finally see this team get out of the gutter, a lot of the coaches responsible for that change are now gone.
Yes I lost an opportunity to win a good amount of money, didn't lose much but it still infuriated me lol
I have empathy for the Detroit fans for sure but the organization and the players I do not
They wanted to get cute last year against SF and repeatedly go for it on 4th down against an elite D instead of taking 3 points and it cost them, fast forward this year and they played like complete crap so screw em.
The best teams always have their coaches poached.Lateral moves are a little weird unless the money is a lot more but I dont really feel bad for them and Detroit isnt exactly a desirable place to live anyways
Looks like former Bills/Jags HC Doug Marrone is now NE's OL coach and former Bears OC/interim HC Thomas Brown is now their TE coach. Last year's LB coach Donta Hightower is now gone.
I don’t see what Mayo has to gain here considering he left town with his 3.5m salary intact, at however many years that he signed for, likely in the 3-5yrs range.
Everyone will likely use the excuse that Kraft put Mayo in an unenviable situation but Jerod knew that going in. Sometimes if your overall coaching performance is considerably lower than the low bar that was expected from you, you may get fired after year one and he did.
It will be interesting to see if he ends up trying to play the racial discrimination card here like Brian Flores, who Mayo has history with, did in his lawsuit.
@erikthredd said:
I don’t see what Mayo has to gain here considering he left town with his 3.5m salary intact, at however many years that he signed for, likely in the 3-5yrs range.
Everyone will likely use the excuse that Kraft put Mayo in an unenviable situation but Jerod knew that going in. Sometimes if your overall coaching performance is considerably lower than the low bar that was expected from you, you may get fired after year one and he did.
It will be interesting to see if he ends up trying to play the racial discrimination card here like Brian Flores, who Mayo has history with, did in his lawsuit.
Not a good look for Mayo if he wants another shot at any coaching position
@erikthredd said:
I don’t see what Mayo has to gain here considering he left town with his 3.5m salary intact, at however many years that he signed for, likely in the 3-5yrs range.
Everyone will likely use the excuse that Kraft put Mayo in an unenviable situation but Jerod knew that going in. Sometimes if your overall coaching performance is considerably lower than the low bar that was expected from you, you may get fired after year one and he did. Like Flores, Mayo has a SB ring on his resume as NE's DC in 2019.
It will be interesting to see if he ends up trying to play the racial discrimination card here like Brian Flores, who Mayo has history with, did in his lawsuit.
Not a good look for Mayo if he wants another shot at any coaching position
I'd say that it would really hurt any future possibilities at getting a second shot at head coaching but I doubt that it would prevent him from any coordinator/positional coaching jobs. Flores filed his lawsuit after leaving Miami and was still hired for a season in Pittsburgh (as LB coach) and Minnesota (as DC.)
At least in Flores case there was rumor of some shady stuff going on behind the scenes like supposedly being pressured to deliberately lose games and gain 100K for each loss. In Mayo's case this just seems like sour grapes after doing what everyone considers, a pretty horrible job as HC.
@erikthredd said:
I don’t see what Mayo has to gain here considering he left town with his 3.5m salary intact, at however many years that he signed for, likely in the 3-5yrs range.
Everyone will likely use the excuse that Kraft put Mayo in an unenviable situation but Jerod knew that going in. Sometimes if your overall coaching performance is considerably lower than the low bar that was expected from you, you may get fired after year one and he did. Like Flores, Mayo has a SB ring on his resume as NE's DC in 2019.
It will be interesting to see if he ends up trying to play the racial discrimination card here like Brian Flores, who Mayo has history with, did in his lawsuit.
Not a good look for Mayo if he wants another shot at any coaching position
I'd say that it would really hurt any future possibilities at getting a second shot at head coaching but I doubt that it would prevent him from any coordinator/positional coaching jobs. Flores filed his lawsuit after leaving Miami and was still hired for a season in Pittsburgh (as LB coach) and Minnesota (as DC.)
At least in Flores case there was rumor of some shady stuff going on behind the scenes like supposedly being pressured to deliberately lose games and gain 100K for each loss. In Mayo's case this just seems like sour grapes after doing what everyone considers, a pretty horrible job as HC.
I mean I think his overall performance along with how he acted towards the players calling them out ect will.prevent him from any HC job, he never really took any responsibility even though everyone knew the team wasn't set up to succeed.
Let's see what happens, I don't care all. that much for Kraft so whoever wins wins
I dont really think he has much to lose at this point trying it either. Probably easier for them to just give him a few million publicly or privately to go away. A lot of people in that building didnt like him which got him canned right away. I doubt any NFL team as even considered him as a HC this year.
I dont think its right, but I dont think it would be a surprise with his what his career path probably is now. Seems like some star defensive players would have to approve hiring him after the reputation he built this year .
Maybe a lower level college HC job out side of the power 4 conferences or a bottom tier team in one of them but certainly hard to see an NFL team or big name program being like this is the guy we want
Deebo wants out of SF. Go make that trade for him, then go get Cooper Kupp on a reworked deal. Then draft a bunch of fatties on both sides of the ball and we're an entirely different team. Can someone point me to the button that makes that happen?
(The Edit button got me again ) I honestly don't get why so many Pats fans are against trading for two "older" WRs. Both would come with new extensions but they could easily afford to pay them and that money wouldn't prevent them from adding other quality free agents. Is it because of their injury history? Deebo played in 15 games this past season, Kupp in 12. Their production in limited games is still better than anything we have. Again, spending the money shouldn't be an issue when otherwise it would just sit in the Scrooge McDuck vault under Gillette stadium lol. The only real holdup would be deciding how many picks to send out in those two trades but you could make a really good offer without it really hurting the team in future picks.
While I'd be more than happy seeing that scenario mentioned above being played out, my first option would definitely be to just go crazy rebuilding the OL through the draft. They have the draft capital to add some very good lineman, the only real question is, are they willing to load up like that? It may mean holding off on the defense until the middle rounds but this is a very deep draft for defensive linemen. You can actually see that organization is taking things seriously this time around by putting together a good & experienced coaching staff especially in regards to line play & development. Now go find talented fatties to coach up.
I'd be very happy to get some veteran WR's with gas left in the tank and see them shore up the OL, Maye can get the ball to WR's if he has the time to throw
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I don't
They had 2 really solid chances at making a run for it and both times they folded like a cheap tent.
good to know. makes me feel better. any idea if Williams called plays on Defense or if that was Vrabel?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I doubt it when their DC was Shane Bowen that season. There had to be some kind of trust factor there when Williams was named Mike's assistant rather than his two coordinators. That may have some value here, or not, time will tell.
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Did you lose money on this game lol? My comment was more towards the people in the Lions organization & their fans who have waited a long time to finally see this team get out of the gutter, a lot of the coaches responsible for that change are now gone.
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Yes I lost an opportunity to win a good amount of money, didn't lose much but it still infuriated me lol
I have empathy for the Detroit fans for sure but the organization and the players I do not
They wanted to get cute last year against SF and repeatedly go for it on 4th down against an elite D instead of taking 3 points and it cost them, fast forward this year and they played like complete crap so screw em.
The best teams always have their coaches poached.Lateral moves are a little weird unless the money is a lot more but I dont really feel bad for them and Detroit isnt exactly a desirable place to live anyways
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Looks like former Bills/Jags HC Doug Marrone is now NE's OL coach and former Bears OC/interim HC Thomas Brown is now their TE coach. Last year's LB coach Donta Hightower is now gone.
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rumor has it , Jerod Mayo is going to release some dirt on the orchids of Asia incident
I heard that he was actually going after Kraft over him getting the boot.
This should be fun
I don’t see what Mayo has to gain here considering he left town with his 3.5m salary intact, at however many years that he signed for, likely in the 3-5yrs range.
Everyone will likely use the excuse that Kraft put Mayo in an unenviable situation but Jerod knew that going in. Sometimes if your overall coaching performance is considerably lower than the low bar that was expected from you, you may get fired after year one and he did.
It will be interesting to see if he ends up trying to play the racial discrimination card here like Brian Flores, who Mayo has history with, did in his lawsuit.
Eric
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Not a good look for Mayo if he wants another shot at any coaching position
I'd say that it would really hurt any future possibilities at getting a second shot at head coaching but I doubt that it would prevent him from any coordinator/positional coaching jobs. Flores filed his lawsuit after leaving Miami and was still hired for a season in Pittsburgh (as LB coach) and Minnesota (as DC.)
At least in Flores case there was rumor of some shady stuff going on behind the scenes like supposedly being pressured to deliberately lose games and gain 100K for each loss. In Mayo's case this just seems like sour grapes after doing what everyone considers, a pretty horrible job as HC.
Eric
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I mean I think his overall performance along with how he acted towards the players calling them out ect will.prevent him from any HC job, he never really took any responsibility even though everyone knew the team wasn't set up to succeed.
Let's see what happens, I don't care all. that much for Kraft so whoever wins wins
I dont really think he has much to lose at this point trying it either. Probably easier for them to just give him a few million publicly or privately to go away. A lot of people in that building didnt like him which got him canned right away. I doubt any NFL team as even considered him as a HC this year.
I dont think its right, but I dont think it would be a surprise with his what his career path probably is now. Seems like some star defensive players would have to approve hiring him after the reputation he built this year .
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Mayo is too early in his career path to start building a history like that.
I dont see him being a head coach again.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Maybe a lower level college HC job out side of the power 4 conferences or a bottom tier team in one of them but certainly hard to see an NFL team or big name program being like this is the guy we want
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43764535/49ers-grant-wr-deebo-samuel-sr-permission-find-trade
Deebo wants out of SF. Go make that trade for him, then go get Cooper Kupp on a reworked deal. Then draft a bunch of fatties on both sides of the ball and we're an entirely different team. Can someone point me to the button that makes that happen?
Eric
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ can we please make this happen?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
(The Edit button got me again
) I honestly don't get why so many Pats fans are against trading for two "older" WRs. Both would come with new extensions but they could easily afford to pay them and that money wouldn't prevent them from adding other quality free agents. Is it because of their injury history? Deebo played in 15 games this past season, Kupp in 12. Their production in limited games is still better than anything we have. Again, spending the money shouldn't be an issue when otherwise it would just sit in the Scrooge McDuck vault under Gillette stadium lol. The only real holdup would be deciding how many picks to send out in those two trades but you could make a really good offer without it really hurting the team in future picks.
While I'd be more than happy seeing that scenario mentioned above being played out, my first option would definitely be to just go crazy rebuilding the OL through the draft. They have the draft capital to add some very good lineman, the only real question is, are they willing to load up like that? It may mean holding off on the defense until the middle rounds but this is a very deep draft for defensive linemen. You can actually see that organization is taking things seriously this time around by putting together a good & experienced coaching staff especially in regards to line play & development. Now go find talented fatties to coach up.
Eric
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I'd be very happy to get some veteran WR's with gas left in the tank and see them shore up the OL, Maye can get the ball to WR's if he has the time to throw