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  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @erikthredd said:
    I do get a kick out of the local media trying to call that loss to Miami the team’s worst loss since Brady left. IMO a 15-10 outcome seems so much better than the 38-3 loss to Dallas last season or the 34-0 spanking by the Saints the following week.

    bro , we have a show to do today . we need to keep the listeners interested

    So just keep talking a mutiny into existence like they did all last week. 😎👍

    they are talking up the fact it was released to the typical bigtime media losers before the players knew.

    I saw the headlines for that, that sounds like some butthurt local STR guy mad because some national guy got the story before he did lol. Most of these media dweebs couldn't care less how/when the players found out about the QB change, they're like vultures when it comes to this stuff.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @erikthredd said:
    I do get a kick out of the local media trying to call that loss to Miami the team’s worst loss since Brady left. IMO a 15-10 outcome seems so much better than the 38-3 loss to Dallas last season or the 34-0 spanking by the Saints the following week.

    bro , we have a show to do today . we need to keep the listeners interested

    So just keep talking a mutiny into existence like they did all last week. 😎👍

    they are talking up the fact it was released to the typical bigtime media losers before the players knew.

    I saw the headlines for that, that sounds like some butthurt local STR guy mad because some national guy got the story before he did lol. Most of these media dweebs couldn't care less how/when the players found out about the QB change, they're like vultures when it comes to this stuff.

    they dont like the toolbags like shcefter and whats his twit.

    who knows though, they might just long for the days when it was billy B's bum chums who got the scoop first

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @erikthredd said:
    I do get a kick out of the local media trying to call that loss to Miami the team’s worst loss since Brady left. IMO a 15-10 outcome seems so much better than the 38-3 loss to Dallas last season or the 34-0 spanking by the Saints the following week.

    bro , we have a show to do today . we need to keep the listeners interested

    So just keep talking a mutiny into existence like they did all last week. 😎👍

    they are talking up the fact it was released to the typical bigtime media losers before the players knew.

    I saw the headlines for that, that sounds like some butthurt local STR guy mad because some national guy got the story before he did lol. Most of these media dweebs couldn't care less how/when the players found out about the QB change, they're like vultures when it comes to this stuff.

    they dont like the toolbags like shcefter and whats his twit.

    who knows though, they might just long for the days when it was billy B's bum chums who got the scoop first

    They're all bum chums with someone, that's the only way that they'll ever get the hot tip before the next guy. (no pun intended😉)

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He just signed a 3yr/24M extension back in July that goes through 2027, if they decide to cut the cord they'll have to eat about 15M in dead cap money. Funny thing is he was named a team captain for 2024.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    He just signed a 3yr/24M extension back in July that goes through 2027, if they decide to cut the cord they'll have to eat about 15M in dead cap money. Funny thing is he was named a team captain for 2024.

    It's not a good situation for anyone involved, police report and her words will have a huge impact on this whole thing

    I can imagine he has hired a very expensive lawyer

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Brissett no longer the starting QB.........New England Patriots rookie Drake Maye has officially been named as the team's starting quarterback.

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    im sure if he needs one the perverted midget (Kraft) has a name Handi , like the one who worked the orchids of boca raton incident

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    To be clear I wasn't ever saying I wanted Maye to ride the bench all.year, I was talking more like given the keys by week 10.

    I understand the experience factor for sure, I think he can get a solid idea of the speed and dynamics of live NFL action by playing 7 or 8 games, I just don't want to see him running for his life and taking a beating for 12 + games

    Id rather him all year. Maybe the last game or two at most if they get the OL figured out. Its already a lost season. Theres no upside.

    Williams just isnt comparable that was a super unique situation and really hasnt been good, Denver had playoff hopes and no better option but Nix has been terrible, Daniels is just a flat out a stud and the Washington offense situation wasnt that bad.

    Obviously it was a money decision to get fans excited again, sell some more merch, and maybe a first year head coach starting to panic he wont be around much longer with how the offense has looked, but its a no win situation

    Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2024 7:54AM

    Drake Maye is making his first NFL start wearing the Pats red Throwback Jersey, hopefully this leads to some cool looking rookie cards.

    Pats Offensive Line will have the same starting five for the first time in b2b games this season, we'll see how they hold up for him. Forget that, Pats starting center for today, Ben Brown, was just signed off of the Las Vegas practice squad on thursday lol.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,991 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I haven't been following it that closely one way or the other, but I like the decision to start Maye. This is a different NFL than it was years ago when generally rookie QB's almost never started their rookie season. Sometimes not for two or three seasons.

    As we all know, today's NFL has many rules in place protecting the QB. So the likelihood of injury from a vicious hit is not nearly as bad as it was in the past. Plus the big money they pay these guys, signing bonus, etc, it almost forces an owner to play them and see what they've got.

    If it turns out the kid doesn't have the courage to stand in the pocket, let a play develop, and take a possible hard hit as Brady used to do, best to find out now, so the necessary adjustments can be made moving forward.

    The kid will of course make mistakes. But if if it turns out he does have the courage needed to become a successful QB, and the ability to learn from his mistakes, well then you'll know you've got a QB of the future to build an offense around.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2024 10:29AM

    Maye throws his first career INT.

    And then his first TD to Boutte to finish off a drive right before the half ends.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Glad he got his first TD

    Just make it through the game without getting hurt!

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maye throws his 3rd TD of the day to go with 3 turnovers.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,833 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i've watched this entire game. Maye has made mistakes, to be expected, and the Pats are getting rolled up, to be expected, but truthfully none of that matters. the kid is showing serious glimpses amid some growing pains and that is exactly what I'd be dying to see as a Pats fans.

    getting him playing time was absolutely the right decision

    3 house calls to this point against a formidable D in his first NFL start is very much a success in my book

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2024 12:23PM

    There's definitely been a lot to like today with his play. Any qualms that Pats fans had weren't really with Maye not being ready, it was almost entirely with the Pats horrible OL play so far this season and this game wasn't really an exception. They gave up another 4 sacks & 8 QB hits and IIRC they lost two of their starting linemen during this game including Lowe their "best" left tackle so far this season.

    That all being said,aside from the TOs Maye's play was very encouraging. I'd say his first INT was entirely on him for overthrowing his target. The fumble came on a Will Anderson sack where Maye had just cocked his arm back and just got steamrolled from the right but his 2nd INT was definitely a freak play off a great tip by a defender that ricocheted high in the air.

    There was absolutely a lot to like though as well, he made quite a few throws that we really didn't see Brissett make on a consistent basis. They came in to this game with just 2 plays of 20 or more yards on offense over the first five games and finished this one with 4 including 2 that went for TDs. Loved seeing Boutte & Douglas finally make some plays, those two and Polk give us some hope for the WR position going forward. Again, its really just the utter lack of talent on their offensive line that has any NE fans worried. Give credit to the Texans especially their defense with how well they played today.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I swear, I heard a collective ahh #$%* across New England when Maye was wincing and slow to get up after that huge Anderson hit that led to the fumble lol. Good to see him shrug it off and keep on trucking after.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm happy with his performance overall, a few drives and he got his sea legs underneath him

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good news is hes used to playing behind lines that arent great coming from UNC. Bad news is the hits are harder now. I like Maye a lot and think he has a bright future but I fear he wont make it through the season if they dont do something about the OL play

    Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2024 1:05PM

    @Basebal21 said:
    Good news is hes used to playing behind lines that arent great coming from UNC. Bad news is the hits are harder now. I like Maye a lot and think he has a bright future but I fear he wont make it through the season if they dont do something about the OL play

    There's really not much that the team could do to improve the OL play in season. Teams aren't going to give up starting caliber or even just capable linemen unless its either a complete overpay or that player has done something to earn an immediate exit from his current team.

    Today's starting Left tackle, Vederian Lowe, was a guy that BB got in a trade with Minnesota around this time a year ago, he cost them a 4th and he was pretty meh last season and average at best so far in 2024.
    Today's starting center, Ben Brown, was claimed off of the Raiders practice squad on thursday and is likely going to be the starter going forward because he has experience in snapping the ball in a west coast offense. Nick Leverette really doesn't.
    Their top two Olinemen from the draft, Wallace & Robinson, are already missing games to injury and their anchor on the OL, David Andrews, just went on season ending IR.

    I think that the bigger issue with their OL play has been no continuity with their OL-OC, they've had five different coaches leading that unit over the past five seasons. Its hard to develop linemen when there's that much change going on. Its absolutely a real problem but unless they just start giving away future draft picks, I doubt that the line improves from outside help this year.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Two notes about today's game...
    That was the Texans first win in New England in team history
    The Pats are 1-5 for the first time since 1995

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,833 ✭✭✭✭✭

    if your future QB throws 3 TDs against an upper-chelon D in his very first NFL start with a below-average OL, that speaks volumes

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    @Basebal21 said:
    Good news is hes used to playing behind lines that arent great coming from UNC. Bad news is the hits are harder now. I like Maye a lot and think he has a bright future but I fear he wont make it through the season if they dont do something about the OL play

    There's really not much that the team could do to improve the OL play in season. Teams aren't going to give up starting caliber or even just capable linemen unless its either a complete overpay or that player has done something to earn an immediate exit from his current team.

    Today's starting Left tackle, Vederian Lowe, was a guy that BB got in a trade with Minnesota around this time a year ago, he cost them a 4th and he was pretty meh last season and average at best so far in 2024.
    Today's starting center, Ben Brown, was claimed off of the Raiders practice squad on thursday and is likely going to be the starter going forward because he has experience in snapping the ball in a west coast offense. Nick Leverette really doesn't.
    Their top two Olinemen from the draft, Wallace & Robinson, are already missing games to injury and their anchor on the OL, David Andrews, just went on season ending IR.

    I think that the bigger issue with their OL play has been no continuity with their OL-OC, they've had five different coaches leading that unit over the past five seasons. Its hard to develop linemen when there's that much change going on. Its absolutely a real problem but unless they just start giving away future draft picks, I doubt that the line improves from outside help this year.

    Things like that are what scares me for him. As you said theres really no way to fix it other than just run the ball every play which means hes going to take a ton of hits

    Thankfully they have the Jags next week. If they struggle to block for that one I would strongly consider putting in Milton for the Jets and Bears games to save Maye for the future. Maybe the Chargers game too if they get healthy on the d line.

    Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,241 ✭✭✭✭✭

    very pleased with what I saw today out of Maye. Nice to see a QB again that has some arm talent. The ball jumps out of his hand. 3 TD against a good D in his first start, fantastic. He is pretty quick on his feet as well. He will need that to make it through this season

    the first int was on him. the second one wasnt.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2024 5:26PM

    @Basebal21 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @Basebal21 said:
    Good news is hes used to playing behind lines that arent great coming from UNC. Bad news is the hits are harder now. I like Maye a lot and think he has a bright future but I fear he wont make it through the season if they dont do something about the OL play

    There's really not much that the team could do to improve the OL play in season. Teams aren't going to give up starting caliber or even just capable linemen unless its either a complete overpay or that player has done something to earn an immediate exit from his current team.

    Today's starting Left tackle, Vederian Lowe, was a guy that BB got in a trade with Minnesota around this time a year ago, he cost them a 4th and he was pretty meh last season and average at best so far in 2024.
    Today's starting center, Ben Brown, was claimed off of the Raiders practice squad on thursday and is likely going to be the starter going forward because he has experience in snapping the ball in a west coast offense. Nick Leverette really doesn't.
    Their top two Olinemen from the draft, Wallace & Robinson, are already missing games to injury and their anchor on the OL, David Andrews, just went on season ending IR.

    I think that the bigger issue with their OL play has been no continuity with their OL-OC, they've had five different coaches leading that unit over the past five seasons. Its hard to develop linemen when there's that much change going on. Its absolutely a real problem but unless they just start giving away future draft picks, I doubt that the line improves from outside help this year.

    Things like that are what scares me for him. As you said theres really no way to fix it other than just run the ball every play which means hes going to take a ton of hits

    Thankfully they have the Jags next week. If they struggle to block for that one I would strongly consider putting in Milton for the Jets and Bears games to save Maye for the future. Maybe the Chargers game too if they get healthy on the d line.

    There’s not really much the team can do to improve it. They’ll have to just roll with who they have and hope their health improves and the unit starts to gel. There’s also a new report this week that guard Cole Strange’s rehab is on schedule, what that schedule’s timeframe is who can say?

    They’re on pace for 68 Sacks Allowed this season, that total would be the 11th most sacks allowed in NFL history. Maybe Maye’s maneuverability in the pocket helps keep their sacks numbers down but with his penchant to get out and run he’s likely to still see his share of hits on the end of runs anyways.

    It is what it is at this point and the only chance Milton gets on the field is if something has already gone terribly wrong with either Maye or Brissett. Regardless of where their draft pick lands, I expect multiple early picks going on the OL for sure.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @Basebal21 said:
    Good news is hes used to playing behind lines that arent great coming from UNC. Bad news is the hits are harder now. I like Maye a lot and think he has a bright future but I fear he wont make it through the season if they dont do something about the OL play

    There's really not much that the team could do to improve the OL play in season. Teams aren't going to give up starting caliber or even just capable linemen unless its either a complete overpay or that player has done something to earn an immediate exit from his current team.

    Today's starting Left tackle, Vederian Lowe, was a guy that BB got in a trade with Minnesota around this time a year ago, he cost them a 4th and he was pretty meh last season and average at best so far in 2024.
    Today's starting center, Ben Brown, was claimed off of the Raiders practice squad on thursday and is likely going to be the starter going forward because he has experience in snapping the ball in a west coast offense. Nick Leverette really doesn't.
    Their top two Olinemen from the draft, Wallace & Robinson, are already missing games to injury and their anchor on the OL, David Andrews, just went on season ending IR.

    I think that the bigger issue with their OL play has been no continuity with their OL-OC, they've had five different coaches leading that unit over the past five seasons. Its hard to develop linemen when there's that much change going on. Its absolutely a real problem but unless they just start giving away future draft picks, I doubt that the line improves from outside help this year.

    Things like that are what scares me for him. As you said theres really no way to fix it other than just run the ball every play which means hes going to take a ton of hits

    Thankfully they have the Jags next week. If they struggle to block for that one I would strongly consider putting in Milton for the Jets and Bears games to save Maye for the future. Maybe the Chargers game too if they get healthy on the d line.

    There’s not really much the team can do to improve it. They’ll have to just roll with who they have and hope their health improves and the unit starts to gel. There’s also a new report this week that guard Cole Strange’s rehab is on schedule, what that schedule’s timeframe is who can say?

    They’re on pace for 68 Sacks Allowed this season, that total would be the 11th most sacks allowed in NFL history. Maybe Maye’s maneuverability in the pocket helps keep their sacks numbers down but with his penchant to get out and run he’s likely to still see his share of hits on the end of runs anyways.

    It is what it is at this point and the only chance Milton gets on the field is if something has already gone terribly wrong with either Maye or Brissett. Regardless of where their draft pick lands, I expect multiple early picks going on the OL for sure.

    Dont get me wrong I dont really think anything of Milton other than his psychical attributes. My things just that is they cant even block the Jags than the Jets and Bears will be a nightmare. If Brissett was going to be the sacrificial lamb hed still be starting. Let Milton take those hits if its that bad. I dont want him to get hurt or anything but hes got that Derrick Henry type build where hed be more likely to stay healthy taking the hit.

    Maye can move for sure, he probably actually should have won the Heisman in 2022 but his teams record wasnt good enough to get enough votes. Id rather not see a guy with his talent taking unnecessary hits while the line tries to figure it out especially with some really good defenses coming up.

    If the line does figure it out sure let him start every game, but until then strategic benchings makes more sense to me

    Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @Basebal21 said:
    Good news is hes used to playing behind lines that arent great coming from UNC. Bad news is the hits are harder now. I like Maye a lot and think he has a bright future but I fear he wont make it through the season if they dont do something about the OL play

    There's really not much that the team could do to improve the OL play in season. Teams aren't going to give up starting caliber or even just capable linemen unless its either a complete overpay or that player has done something to earn an immediate exit from his current team.

    Today's starting Left tackle, Vederian Lowe, was a guy that BB got in a trade with Minnesota around this time a year ago, he cost them a 4th and he was pretty meh last season and average at best so far in 2024.
    Today's starting center, Ben Brown, was claimed off of the Raiders practice squad on thursday and is likely going to be the starter going forward because he has experience in snapping the ball in a west coast offense. Nick Leverette really doesn't.
    Their top two Olinemen from the draft, Wallace & Robinson, are already missing games to injury and their anchor on the OL, David Andrews, just went on season ending IR.

    I think that the bigger issue with their OL play has been no continuity with their OL-OC, they've had five different coaches leading that unit over the past five seasons. Its hard to develop linemen when there's that much change going on. Its absolutely a real problem but unless they just start giving away future draft picks, I doubt that the line improves from outside help this year.

    Things like that are what scares me for him. As you said theres really no way to fix it other than just run the ball every play which means hes going to take a ton of hits

    Thankfully they have the Jags next week. If they struggle to block for that one I would strongly consider putting in Milton for the Jets and Bears games to save Maye for the future. Maybe the Chargers game too if they get healthy on the d line.

    There’s not really much the team can do to improve it. They’ll have to just roll with who they have and hope their health improves and the unit starts to gel. There’s also a new report this week that guard Cole Strange’s rehab is on schedule, what that schedule’s timeframe is who can say?

    They’re on pace for 68 Sacks Allowed this season, that total would be the 11th most sacks allowed in NFL history. Maybe Maye’s maneuverability in the pocket helps keep their sacks numbers down but with his penchant to get out and run he’s likely to still see his share of hits on the end of runs anyways.

    It is what it is at this point and the only chance Milton gets on the field is if something has already gone terribly wrong with either Maye or Brissett. Regardless of where their draft pick lands, I expect multiple early picks going on the OL for sure.

    Dont get me wrong I dont really think anything of Milton other than his psychical attributes. My things just that is they cant even block the Jags than the Jets and Bears will be a nightmare. If Brissett was going to be the sacrificial lamb hed still be starting. Let Milton take those hits if its that bad. I dont want him to get hurt or anything but hes got that Derrick Henry type build where hed be more likely to stay healthy taking the hit.

    Maye can move for sure, he probably actually should have won the Heisman in 2022 but his teams record wasnt good enough to get enough votes. Id rather not see a guy with his talent taking unnecessary hits while the line tries to figure it out especially with some really good defenses coming up.

    If the line does figure it out sure let him start every game, but until then strategic benchings makes more sense to me

    Thea team is already past all that, its all the Drake Maye show going forward, for good or bad. We'll see how it all plays out soon enough.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    There's really not much that the team could do to improve the OL play in season. Teams aren't going to give up starting caliber or even just capable linemen unless its either a complete overpay or that player has done something to earn an immediate exit from his current team.

    I think that the bigger issue with their OL play has been no continuity with their OL-OC, they've had five different coaches leading that unit over the past five seasons. Its hard to develop linemen when there's that much change going on. Its absolutely a real problem but unless they just start giving away future draft picks, I doubt that the line improves from outside help this year.

    WRong
    the biggest issue is money
    the team(the midget pervert) doesn't want to pay at any position.
    they knew dante was leaving , there was time to groom someone but they didn't want to pay
    they were paying bill whatever it was and he was doling out coach salaries out of his 25 million like scrooge mcduck a penny at a time

    this collapse happened in slow motion , we as fans were seeing issues years ago even with less than complete information

    Krafty is cheap and dumb , Bill was cheap and an egomaniac and both were like those old geezers that run around telling about how they used to ride the streetcar for a nickle

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    There's really not much that the team could do to improve the OL play in season. Teams aren't going to give up starting caliber or even just capable linemen unless its either a complete overpay or that player has done something to earn an immediate exit from his current team.

    I think that the bigger issue with their OL play has been no continuity with their OL-OC, they've had five different coaches leading that unit over the past five seasons. Its hard to develop linemen when there's that much change going on. Its absolutely a real problem but unless they just start giving away future draft picks, I doubt that the line improves from outside help this year.

    WRong
    the biggest issue is money
    the team(the midget pervert) doesn't want to pay at any position.
    they knew dante was leaving , there was time to groom someone but they didn't want to pay
    they were paying bill whatever it was and he was doling out coach salaries out of his 25 million like scrooge mcduck a penny at a time

    this collapse happened in slow motion , we as fans were seeing issues years ago even with less than complete information

    Krafty is cheap and dumb , Bill was cheap and an egomaniac and both were like those old geezers that run around telling about how they used to ride the streetcar for a nickle

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    kraft now giving interviews saying tom brady was crying , and he fired bill

    what a fraud this clown is

    he didnt want to pay tom

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, that was rough. It might be time to start posting Have you seen the Pats run defense? on milk cartons, they went from giving up just 93 rushing yards per game in 2023 to these weekly totals in 2024...70/46/133/148/193/192/171.
    It doesn't help that three of NE's best run stoppers (Barmore/Bentley/Peppers) are all either on IR or currently away from the team for being a dumbass.

    On the positive side, Maye looked like he's getting more comfortable as the starter. I like that the offense is starting to get everyone involved in the passing game but like the run D, their running game is now M.I.A.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My only takeaway and care is 2 things

    Maye didn't get hurt
    He looks good

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:
    Didn't see this until today, Peppers has probably already played his last game in NE.
    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/patriots-robert-kraft-says-jabrill-peppers-gone-disturbing-domestic-violence-allegations-true

    If it's true he is done in the NFL not just the Pats

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:
    Didn't see this until today, Peppers has probably already played his last game in NE.
    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/patriots-robert-kraft-says-jabrill-peppers-gone-disturbing-domestic-violence-allegations-true

    ill take your word for it. the page is demanding i unblock ads before i can read

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 20, 2024 11:07AM

    @bronco2078 said:

    @erikthredd said:
    Didn't see this until today, Peppers has probably already played his last game in NE.
    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/patriots-robert-kraft-says-jabrill-peppers-gone-disturbing-domestic-violence-allegations-true

    ill take your word for it. the page is demanding i unblock ads before i can read

    That's weird when its just a Fox news site. Kraft did have these quotes that I thought you may get a kick out of, the second part makes you wonder if he was referring to the Spa arrest or if he choked some other chick out while in a drug induced rage lol.
    Kraft echoed that sentiment, adding that "there have been some suggestions that this was a setup and what's reported is not accurate."

    Kraft said that he has "personally" experienced something similar and wants to wait for the investigation and facts to play out. But if the allegations prove to be true, he’ll make no exception.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What's the consensus here on NE possibly taking a run at a Cooper Kupp trade? He just turned 31 in June and his contract has 29M/29M/27M due for 2024-26. Supposedly the Rams are looking for a 2nd and are willing to eat some of his 2024 salary.
    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cooper-kupp-trade-rumors-identifying-logical-landing-spots-if-rams-decide-to-deal-star-receiver/

    If NE can get a deal similar to what Adams cost the Jets, a conditional 3rd that changes to a 2nd if he makes 1st or 2nd team All-Pro or the team makes the AFCCG, I'd seriously consider making that deal.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,241 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cooper is a great talent when he plays, but I think he has only played 2 full seasons and has a hard time staying healthy. those are some big salary numbers if he cant stay on the field

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm all set

    Cupp is a has been at this point, he was electrifying but the past 2 years he has been hurt, inconsistent and flat out not worth much

    Almost as much as a fall off as Michael Thomas

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:
    What's the consensus here on NE possibly taking a run at a Cooper Kupp trade? He just turned 31 in June and his contract has 29M/29M/27M due for 2024-26. Supposedly the Rams are looking for a 2nd and are willing to eat some of his 2024 salary.
    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cooper-kupp-trade-rumors-identifying-logical-landing-spots-if-rams-decide-to-deal-star-receiver/

    If NE can get a deal similar to what Adams cost the Jets, a conditional 3rd that changes to a 2nd if he makes 1st or 2nd team All-Pro or the team makes the AFCCG, I'd seriously consider making that deal.

    trade a 1st for him, they are probably going to misuse all thier draft pics anyway

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i changed my mind. Cooper is a dog's name , that would annoy me to hear all the time.

    i'd look around for a yellow lab every time i heard it

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    Cooper is a great talent when he plays, but I think he has only played 2 full seasons and has a hard time staying healthy. those are some big salary numbers if he cant stay on the field

    @perkdog said:
    I'm all set

    Cupp is a has been at this point, he was electrifying but the past 2 years he has been hurt, inconsistent and flat out not worth much

    Almost as much as a fall off as Michael Thomas

    The money wouldn't be an issue for me especially when LA would be eating most if not all of his 2024 salary, the issue would definitely be his health holding up. When i posted that comment last night I hadn't noticed that he's already missed 3 of the 7 games this season on top of what he missed over the past 2 seasons. My quest to find us a WR1 continues....😉

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:
    i changed my mind. Cooper is a dog's name , that would annoy me to hear all the time.

    i'd look around for a yellow lab every time i heard it

    It's been a sad few days for pet talk, we (my daughter & I) had to put down our cat Spooky who had respiratory problems on Saturday. 😔

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    @bronco2078 said:
    i changed my mind. Cooper is a dog's name , that would annoy me to hear all the time.

    i'd look around for a yellow lab every time i heard it

    It's been a sad few days for pet talk, we (my daughter & I) had to put down our cat Spooky who had respiratory problems on Saturday. 😔

    Sorry to hear that bud

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @bronco2078 said:
    i changed my mind. Cooper is a dog's name , that would annoy me to hear all the time.

    i'd look around for a yellow lab every time i heard it

    It's been a sad few days for pet talk, we (my daughter & I) had to put down our cat Spooky who had respiratory problems on Saturday. 😔

    Sorry to hear that bud

    Thanks

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So after the game on Sunday, Mayo had this to say about how the team is playing right now....
    "I felt like we just went out there and played soft. We're playing soft at the moment," Mayo said about his remarks following the team's 32-16 loss to the Jaguars at Wembley Stadium in London. "Now in saying that, do I think we have the guys in there that can turn this ship around? One hundred percent. But that comes through hard work and getting better each and every day."

    ....and Belichick gets all butthurt when asked about it which led to his comments...
    “To call them soft … They’re not soft, they were the best team in the league last year against the run. And those guys that are out there, went out there and did it even though we couldn’t score many points offensively."
    “So, I don’t know, I feel bad for the defensive players on that one because those guys … that’s a tough group.”

    Bill must not be actually paying attention to this team's current circumstances right now. Yes, for the most part its mostly the same group of players that he coached last season but their defense on Sunday did not have many of their best defenders from a year ago when some are either no longer with the team (Judon/Guy/Phillips/Wilson/Bryant) or are currently injured (Barmore/Bentley) or got put on Timeout for being a crappy human being (Pepper.)

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They got absolutely gashed by Tank Bisby lol

    Even when Jax basically telegraphed he was going to run they couldn't stop him.

    They played "Soft" but I highly disagree with calling the team out like that, it's not going to motivate them to play hard for him.

    It's probably going to get worse now lol

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't have a problem with calling out the team as a whole, its not like he singled out anyone specifically. This is where Mayo needs to show his mettle to both the organization and fanbase on how he gets the players to respond after calling them out. No one expects them to start knocking teams off but at least get everyone to start playing with some pride.

    We're already starting to see headlines from the WEEI/98.5 idiots asking if he should be canned soon, as if all of New England didn't already know heading into the season that the team was going to suck due to a lack of talent and with having a rookie head coach there were likely going to be growing pains. Their defense, especially their run D, has been much worse than expected but those 8 defensive players that I mentioned above were most of their starters on that side of the ball in 2023.

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