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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tough home opener loss, but you can't expect to win when you blow pass coverage like they did and get FG blocked

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    Tough home opener loss, but you can't expect to win when you blow pass coverage like they did and get FG blocked

    the offense is too simple. Stuff works and the other side makes an adjustment and shuts it down.
    but in a surprise twist the running game is working but the patriots go away from it for no reason

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    Tough home opener loss, but you can't expect to win when you blow pass coverage like they did and get FG blocked

    that blown coverage was really frustrating.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @perkdog said:
    Tough home opener loss, but you can't expect to win when you blow pass coverage like they did and get FG blocked

    the offense is too simple. Stuff works and the other side makes an adjustment and shuts it down.
    but in a surprise twist the running game is working but the patriots go away from it for no reason

    They still ran for over 180 yards though, that's their plan to control the clock and grind it out but that only works when your DB's decide to cover opposing receivers lol

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the run was working , there was a drive where it worked a bunch of times then they throw a dumb pass that doesnt work and punt follows

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looked like they got overconfident in the pass game after Hunter Henry shredded the Hawks D in that first half, IIRC all 8 of his receptions came in that first half.

    The D absolutely botched that long Geno TD to Metcalf (I think) but what really killed them was Seattle’s offense being able to keep going no huddle throughout the game. They basically just abandoned the run for the most part and kept throwing the ball.

    Overall, the loss stings but at least they gave themselves the chance to win the game late. They didn’t but at least they’re competing at a high level which is all that you can ask for as a fan.

    I did like seeing Keion White rack up another 1.5 sack. This kid can really get after the QB, it’s a shame that Christian Barmore isn’t out there yet reeking havoc with him. Also at what point does Marco Wilson need to fall further down the depth chart? That was the second game in a row where he got called for PI which gave up a huge chunk of yards.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    phantom PI on the pass that landed in the parking lot? or the other one?

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The play that I’m talking about saw Seattle score on the very next play, the play that you’re referring to came on that final series in OT. I don’t think that last one was Wilson.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 16, 2024 10:14AM

    I think that their play in the 2nd half & OT clearly made it more evident that they have a severe lack of talent on offense. Once Seattle made their halftime adjustments and took away Hunter Henry getting open there really wasn’t anyone that could continually make plays for them.

    Part of that is on Brissett but he’s more of a play not to lose type of QB than he is one that can go out and win a game. Part of it is also on their OL for not being able to successfully pass block and give the QB & WRs the time it needs to make plays.

    It’s also not having that one guy on offense that the defense needs to game plan for. You can only be successful in the run game for so long without being able to mix it up every now and again by keeping the defense honest.

    I doubt that Maye would make that much of a difference in this offense right now with this supporting group surrounding him. I know it’s sacrilegious to even think this way but losing games this season is their quickest path to finding the type of talent that they need to make a difference on offense. Sometimes teams get lucky finding elite playmakers in the later rounds but NE needs someone to anchor their OL plus another to take the top off of the defense, those type of game changers are for the most part found very early in the draft.

    If the new offensive coaching staff can’t find ways to be more creative on offense, then defenses are just going to look for us to just keep running the ball like they’ve been doing. We got a good look at what that was like during late last season and it got to be pretty ugly.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 16, 2024 10:54AM

    Just more proof of their lack of talent at the WR position:
    Polk caught 2 balls in 3 targets for 12 yards & a TD
    Osborn caught 1 ball in 2 targets for 7 yards

    That was their total production from the WR position yesterday. Rough lol.

    Edit: I missed this over the weekend…the Pats big FA signing at Left Tackle from this past offseason just decided that he may not want to continue playing football after one game here. LOL
    https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/patriots-place-ot-chuks-okorafor-on-the-exempt-left-squad-list

    It’s almost as if this team will forever be cursed on offense after Tom Brady left. It just seems like every move has failed. 🤣

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Damn. Ja’Whaun Bentley out for the year with a torn pec.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:
    Damn. Ja’Whaun Bentley out for the year with a torn pec.

    Uhkk that is a tough hit

  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,989 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It will be interesting in tonight's game to see how the Patriots rebound from their first loss last week under the new coach, especially against a division rival.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My buddies love the Pats with the plus points

    Pats +6

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Absolutely disgusting performance.

    I was ok with Maye getting a little taste, first few plays he definitely looked a little overwhelmed,, at least he got a taste

    I do not want him starting next game though

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    Absolutely disgusting performance.

    I was ok with Maye getting a little taste, first few plays he definitely looked a little overwhelmed,, at least he got a taste

    I do not want him starting next game though

    he got in? i must have been unconscious by then

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @perkdog said:
    Absolutely disgusting performance.

    I was ok with Maye getting a little taste, first few plays he definitely looked a little overwhelmed,, at least he got a taste

    I do not want him starting next game though

    he got in? i must have been unconscious by then

    Garbage time for last drive

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @perkdog said:
    Absolutely disgusting performance.

    I was ok with Maye getting a little taste, first few plays he definitely looked a little overwhelmed,, at least he got a taste

    I do not want him starting next game though

    he got in? i must have been unconscious by then

    Garbage time for last drive

    it becomes more obvious everyday that the whole dynasty was tom brady

    not really complaining about Mayo , or Jacoby . The owner is too cheap to field a team in 2024 + maybe he needs to sell the team

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @perkdog said:
    Absolutely disgusting performance.

    I was ok with Maye getting a little taste, first few plays he definitely looked a little overwhelmed,, at least he got a taste

    I do not want him starting next game though

    he got in? i must have been unconscious by then

    Garbage time for last drive

    it becomes more obvious everyday that the whole dynasty was tom brady

    not really complaining about Mayo , or Jacoby . The owner is too cheap to field a team in 2024 + maybe he needs to sell the team

    I'm willing to give it a little more time, Mac Jones wasn't exactly set up to succeed so I'm hoping that they realize a QB needs some help and it's not the "Coaching" that the Kraft's bought into under the Hoodie regime that wins you the games.

    With Belichick gone we actually have a much better chance at drafting a good WR and putting money into skill position players rather than long snappers and gunners for special teams.

    Bob Kraft is a cheapskate, hopefully Jonathan isnt

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @perkdog said:
    Absolutely disgusting performance.

    I was ok with Maye getting a little taste, first few plays he definitely looked a little overwhelmed,, at least he got a taste

    I do not want him starting next game though

    he got in? i must have been unconscious by then

    Garbage time for last drive

    it becomes more obvious everyday that the whole dynasty was tom brady

    not really complaining about Mayo , or Jacoby . The owner is too cheap to field a team in 2024 + maybe he needs to sell the team

    this. Its been 5 years since we had a Quarterback. Not working out so well...

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @perkdog said:
    Absolutely disgusting performance.

    I was ok with Maye getting a little taste, first few plays he definitely looked a little overwhelmed,, at least he got a taste

    I do not want him starting next game though

    he got in? i must have been unconscious by then

    He didn’t light it up that drive but he did move the ball downfield into the red zone. They were out of time-outs but it’s too bad he didn’t get at least one shot at the end zone.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Watching how bad the Offensive Line has been in recent years has made me appreciate former Pats OL coach Dante Scarrnechia even more. He routinely would take an OL group like they had last night and morph them into a competent pass blocking unit.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    Absolutely disgusting performance.

    I was ok with Maye getting a little taste, first few plays he definitely looked a little overwhelmed,, at least he got a taste

    I do not want him starting next game though

    The only time I want to see Maye on the field this season is in situations like last night. Their pass protection is so bad that they’ll just ruin the kid this season if he became starter.

    Rack up those losses and then go find a high level LT early in this next draft.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dante was a magician with those lines.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    @perkdog said:
    Absolutely disgusting performance.

    I was ok with Maye getting a little taste, first few plays he definitely looked a little overwhelmed,, at least he got a taste

    I do not want him starting next game though

    The only time I want to see Maye on the field this season is in situations like last night. Their pass protection is so bad that they’ll just ruin the kid this season if he became starter.

    Rack up those losses and then go find a high level LT early in this next draft.

    I'm all the way with you on this

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    Dante was a magician with those lines.

    It’s a shame that they haven’t been able to find a competent/permanent replacement for
    him since he retired. IIRC they’ve had a new OL coach every season since he left.

    They really need to invest heavily again on their OL in this next draft, not just starters but even their backups too.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    @craig44 said:
    Dante was a magician with those lines.

    It’s a shame that they haven’t been able to find a competent/permanent replacement for
    him since he retired. IIRC they’ve had a new OL coach every season since he left.

    They really need to invest heavily again on their OL in this next draft, not just starters but even their backups too.

    the issue here is no one wants to work for the pats unless they can't find a better job.
    The krafts need a brilliant guy who is being paid by another team , or someone on work release from prison
    maybe a level 3 sex offender who can't work for another team because its too close to an elementary school?

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    watching the passing offense makes me long for the glory days of mac jones

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, looks like Brissett is finally throwing touchdowns, unfortunately it’s to the other team. 🤣

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fred Warner is nothing nice

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At least the refs are trying to keep it close lol

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    At least the refs are trying to keep it close lol

    I was literally typing out that that ref must be angry after drafting Christian McCaffrey first overall in his fantasy league by the way he pegged Jordan Mason’s head with that flag. 😂

    Little forgot to hit our secondary with the Too Small dance after that TD catch.

    Our offense is straight up horrible.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    @perkdog said:
    At least the refs are trying to keep it close lol

    I was literally typing out that that ref must be angry after drafting Christian McCaffrey first overall in his fantasy league by the way he pegged Jordan Mason’s head with that flag. 😂

    Little forgot to hit our secondary with the Too Small dance after that TD catch.

    Our offense is straight up horrible.

    I was glad that they didn't take Brissett out and throw Maye to the wolves though, that's one thing they did right today

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @perkdog said:
    At least the refs are trying to keep it close lol

    I was literally typing out that that ref must be angry after drafting Christian McCaffrey first overall in his fantasy league by the way he pegged Jordan Mason’s head with that flag. 😂

    Little forgot to hit our secondary with the Too Small dance after that TD catch.

    Our offense is straight up horrible.

    I was glad that they didn't take Brissett out and throw Maye to the wolves though, that's one thing they did right today

    Did you see Gronk during the halftime show? He’s fully against making the change to Maye for all the same reasoning that we’ve mentioned here. Brissett suffered through another 6 sacks & 10 QB hits, his new nickname should be Grimace because every time he gets hit he looks like he’s in some major pain. My man is definitely earning every single penny on that 8M contract so far.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    they wasted a novel play today , well it was penalized but it almost worked :D

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:
    they wasted a novel play today , well it was penalized but it almost worked :D

    I agree, that was a good one. so close.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Adams probably wouldn’t want any part of coming to New England but for a second rounder plus some later picks, I’d be making that call if I were the Pats GM. He’d got three years left on his deal (2024-26) but he’d be extremely expensive though at 35M/yr for those next two.
    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41567922/sources-jets-saints-high-davante-adams-trade-wish-list

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:
    Adams probably wouldn’t want any part of coming to New England but for a second rounder plus some later picks, I’d be making that call if I were the Pats GM. He’d got three years left on his deal (2024-26) but he’d be extremely expensive though at 35M/yr for those next two.
    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41567922/sources-jets-saints-high-davante-adams-trade-wish-list

    Not feeling Davante Adams at 31, he isn't going to do a thing for us long term except be a lot of money tied up with an aging skill. set.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2024 8:08AM

    @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:
    Adams probably wouldn’t want any part of coming to New England but for a second rounder plus some later picks, I’d be making that call if I were the Pats GM. He’d got three years left on his deal (2024-26) but he’d be extremely expensive though at 35M/yr for those next two.
    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41567922/sources-jets-saints-high-davante-adams-trade-wish-list

    Not feeling Davante Adams at 31, he isn't going to do a thing for us long term except be a lot of money tied up with an aging skill. set.

    A month ago I would have said the same but seeing that their offense might be worse than last season , I’d definitely consider it. A lot would depend on that additional compensation too.

    Edit: last season’s offense averaged 13.9 ppg, so far this season it’s 13.0

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:
    Adams probably wouldn’t want any part of coming to New England but for a second rounder plus some later picks, I’d be making that call if I were the Pats GM. He’d got three years left on his deal (2024-26) but he’d be extremely expensive though at 35M/yr for those next two.
    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41567922/sources-jets-saints-high-davante-adams-trade-wish-list

    Not feeling Davante Adams at 31, he isn't going to do a thing for us long term except be a lot of money tied up with an aging skill. set.

    A month ago I would have said the same but seeing that their offense might be worse than last season , I’d definitely consider it. A lot would depend on that additional compensation too.

    Edit: last season’s offense averaged 13.9 ppg, so far this season it’s 13.0

    And they win 3 maybe 4 games this year and we have a great draft pick coming up

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2024 10:32AM

    @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:
    Adams probably wouldn’t want any part of coming to New England but for a second rounder plus some later picks, I’d be making that call if I were the Pats GM. He’d got three years left on his deal (2024-26) but he’d be extremely expensive though at 35M/yr for those next two.
    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41567922/sources-jets-saints-high-davante-adams-trade-wish-list

    Not feeling Davante Adams at 31, he isn't going to do a thing for us long term except be a lot of money tied up with an aging skill. set.

    A month ago I would have said the same but seeing that their offense might be worse than last season , I’d definitely consider it. A lot would depend on that additional compensation too.

    Edit: last season’s offense averaged 13.9 ppg, so far this season it’s 13.0

    And they win 3 maybe 4 games this year and we have a great draft pick coming up

    Probably. They'd grab a starting caliber left tackle but then you're still looking for an "X" WR.

    This is their cap space for their near future:
    2024 currently 36M
    2025 138M
    2026 250+M

    Adams money wouldn't even put a dent in their financial situation, it really just comes down to that 2nd plus additional mid/late round picks. At that point the offense has been improved greatly and free agents can now actually see that and may have better luck signing them.

    Or not lol. The pace of this current rebuild as is may have them be able to compete by the time Maye's rookie deal ends if they depend entirely on the draft. That’s if everything goes as planned.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:
    Adams probably wouldn’t want any part of coming to New England but for a second rounder plus some later picks, I’d be making that call if I were the Pats GM. He’d got three years left on his deal (2024-26) but he’d be extremely expensive though at 35M/yr for those next two.
    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41567922/sources-jets-saints-high-davante-adams-trade-wish-list

    Not feeling Davante Adams at 31, he isn't going to do a thing for us long term except be a lot of money tied up with an aging skill. set.

    A month ago I would have said the same but seeing that their offense might be worse than last season , I’d definitely consider it. A lot would depend on that additional compensation too.

    Edit: last season’s offense averaged 13.9 ppg, so far this season it’s 13.0

    i wasn't a mac jones hater or a defender but he was not the issue obviously. Jacoby is a better QB overall but we are worse now.

    I blame kraft , he was cheap with the coaching staff and cheap with player signings.

    Tom Brady really was everything , the downside is it convinced Bill he could actually coach and convinced kraft he also knew what he was doing.

    Brady covered for both of those boobs

    Brady was the bra that held it all together

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:
    Adams probably wouldn’t want any part of coming to New England but for a second rounder plus some later picks, I’d be making that call if I were the Pats GM. He’d got three years left on his deal (2024-26) but he’d be extremely expensive though at 35M/yr for those next two.
    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41567922/sources-jets-saints-high-davante-adams-trade-wish-list

    Not feeling Davante Adams at 31, he isn't going to do a thing for us long term except be a lot of money tied up with an aging skill. set.

    A month ago I would have said the same but seeing that their offense might be worse than last season , I’d definitely consider it. A lot would depend on that additional compensation too.

    Edit: last season’s offense averaged 13.9 ppg, so far this season it’s 13.0

    i wasn't a mac jones hater or a defender but he was not the issue obviously. Jacoby is a better QB overall but we are worse now.

    I blame kraft , he was cheap with the coaching staff and cheap with player signings.

    Tom Brady really was everything , the downside is it convinced Bill he could actually coach and convinced kraft he also knew what he was doing.

    Brady covered for both of those boobs

    Brady was the bra that held it all together

    this right here just about covers it.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no offense you guys but zero chance Davante goes to NE

    he's trying to get out of that cesspool in Vegas and go to a team with playoff aspirations

    probably either the Saints or Jets to team up with one of his former QBs

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    david andrews done for the season. shoulder surgery

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:
    Adams probably wouldn’t want any part of coming to New England but for a second rounder plus some later picks, I’d be making that call if I were the Pats GM. He’d got three years left on his deal (2024-26) but he’d be extremely expensive though at 35M/yr for those next two.
    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41567922/sources-jets-saints-high-davante-adams-trade-wish-list

    Not feeling Davante Adams at 31, he isn't going to do a thing for us long term except be a lot of money tied up with an aging skill. set.

    A month ago I would have said the same but seeing that their offense might be worse than last season , I’d definitely consider it. A lot would depend on that additional compensation too.

    Edit: last season’s offense averaged 13.9 ppg, so far this season it’s 13.0

    i wasn't a mac jones hater or a defender but he was not the issue obviously. Jacoby is a better QB overall but we are worse now.

    I blame kraft , he was cheap with the coaching staff and cheap with player signings.

    Tom Brady really was everything , the downside is it convinced Bill he could actually coach and convinced kraft he also knew what he was doing.

    Brady covered for both of those boobs

    Brady was the bra that held it all together

    Great, you mentioned Mac, now we’re likely going to get a 1000 word comment from you know who defending Mac. 😉

    As far as Mac goes, I fully agree that BB did him wrong but let’s not pretend that NE let a great one get away, At best he’s probably slightly better than Brissett. McDaniels play calling made him look better than he actually was.

    As for the part about Brady, Bobby K and Bill Belichick the evil Sith Lord, we’ve known all of this for years. That’s not something new.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    no offense you guys but zero chance Davante goes to NE

    he's trying to get out of that cesspool in Vegas and go to a team with playoff aspirations

    probably either the Saints or Jets to team up with one of his former QBs

    True, it was always a pipe dream at best. I was just hoping to see NE compete again at some point within the next decade which probably won’t happen.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:
    Adams probably wouldn’t want any part of coming to New England but for a second rounder plus some later picks, I’d be making that call if I were the Pats GM. He’d got three years left on his deal (2024-26) but he’d be extremely expensive though at 35M/yr for those next two.
    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41567922/sources-jets-saints-high-davante-adams-trade-wish-list

    Not feeling Davante Adams at 31, he isn't going to do a thing for us long term except be a lot of money tied up with an aging skill. set.

    A month ago I would have said the same but seeing that their offense might be worse than last season , I’d definitely consider it. A lot would depend on that additional compensation too.

    Edit: last season’s offense averaged 13.9 ppg, so far this season it’s 13.0

    i wasn't a mac jones hater or a defender but he was not the issue obviously. Jacoby is a better QB overall but we are worse now.

    I blame kraft , he was cheap with the coaching staff and cheap with player signings.

    Tom Brady really was everything , the downside is it convinced Bill he could actually coach and convinced kraft he also knew what he was doing.

    Brady covered for both of those boobs

    Brady was the bra that held it all together

    Great, you mentioned Mac, now we’re likely going to get a 1000 word comment from you know who defending Mac. 😉

    As far as Mac goes, I fully agree that BB did him wrong but let’s not pretend that NE let a great one get away, At best he’s probably slightly better than Brissett. McDaniels play calling made him look better than he actually was.

    As for the part about Brady, Bobby K and Bill Belichick the evil Sith Lord, we’ve known all of this for years. That’s not something new.

    i dont know if bill boobichek did mac wrong . i'm saying boobichek was and is a complete fraud and i just like to mention it constantly
    i can't stress it enough
    also pervert krafty is dumber than a sack of doorknobs and disingenuous too

    he needs to admit publicly that he is brain damaged before ill be satisfied

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:
    Adams probably wouldn’t want any part of coming to New England but for a second rounder plus some later picks, I’d be making that call if I were the Pats GM. He’d got three years left on his deal (2024-26) but he’d be extremely expensive though at 35M/yr for those next two.
    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41567922/sources-jets-saints-high-davante-adams-trade-wish-list

    Not feeling Davante Adams at 31, he isn't going to do a thing for us long term except be a lot of money tied up with an aging skill. set.

    A month ago I would have said the same but seeing that their offense might be worse than last season , I’d definitely consider it. A lot would depend on that additional compensation too.

    Edit: last season’s offense averaged 13.9 ppg, so far this season it’s 13.0

    i wasn't a mac jones hater or a defender but he was not the issue obviously. Jacoby is a better QB overall but we are worse now.

    I blame kraft , he was cheap with the coaching staff and cheap with player signings.

    Tom Brady really was everything , the downside is it convinced Bill he could actually coach and convinced kraft he also knew what he was doing.

    Brady covered for both of those boobs

    Brady was the bra that held it all together

    Great, you mentioned Mac, now we’re likely going to get a 1000 word comment from you know who defending Mac. 😉

    As far as Mac goes, I fully agree that BB did him wrong but let’s not pretend that NE let a great one get away, At best he’s probably slightly better than Brissett. McDaniels play calling made him look better than he actually was.

    As for the part about Brady, Bobby K and Bill Belichick the evil Sith Lord, we’ve known all of this for years. That’s not something new.

    i dont know if bill boobichek did mac wrong . i'm saying boobichek was and is a complete fraud and i just like to mention it constantly
    i can't stress it enough
    also pervert krafty is dumber than a sack of doorknobs and disingenuous too

    he needs to admit publicly that he is brain damaged before ill be satisfied

    I bet it’s from all of those nights as Meek Mill’s wingman at all of those Diddy Freakoffs. 😎

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    david andrews done for the season. shoulder surgery

    Jacoby is sitting in some closet right now crying his eyes out. 🤣
    As bad as their OL is, that is a huge loss for this offense.

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