From what I've read, it boils down to Aiyuk prefers to go to Pittsburgh or Washington but neither team is willing to pay the 49ers asking price while Cleveland & New England are both willing to pay what SanFran and Aiyuk are both looking for but he's hesitant about signing with either team. Aiyuk will probably need to be more open to where he may go because the 49ers have zero incentive to trade him for anything less than what they think he's worth, we'll see who ultimately caves first.
@erikthredd said:
From what I've read, it boils down to Aiyuk prefers to go to Pittsburgh or Washington but neither team is willing to pay the 49ers asking price while Cleveland & New England are both willing to pay what SanFran and Aiyuk are both looking for but he's hesitant about signing with either team. Aiyuk will probably need to be more open to where he may go because the 49ers have zero incentive to trade him for anything less than what they think he's worth, we'll see who ultimately caves first.
Let's be honest, if it's a solid situation he is looking for with the money then neither place is all that great
I'm sure money is his first choice then the best situation.
I'm ok with the Pats paying him but only if we get him for multiple years, but he needs to know this up coming season is not going to mirror anything like SF in 2023
@erikthredd said:
From what I've read, it boils down to Aiyuk prefers to go to Pittsburgh or Washington but neither team is willing to pay the 49ers asking price while Cleveland & New England are both willing to pay what SanFran and Aiyuk are both looking for but he's hesitant about signing with either team. Aiyuk will probably need to be more open to where he may go because the 49ers have zero incentive to trade him for anything less than what they think he's worth, we'll see who ultimately caves first.
Let's be honest, if it's a solid situation he is looking for with the money then neither place is all that great
I'm sure money is his first choice then the best situation.
I'm ok with the Pats paying him but only if we get him for multiple years, but he needs to know this up coming season is not going to mirror anything like SF in 2023
He knows what he's getting himself into here, his agent would have laid out every scenario long before now. As for the length of his new deal I doubt that it will be for less than four years. Every team knows going in that he's looking for a high end contract and the 14M 5th year option that's he's currently on probably gets voided out with that four year deal replacing it.
Now can NE convince him to sign here? 🤷♂️
Right now there's no face to the New England franchise and their front office should be selling Aiyuk on becoming that guy here. Maye may end up as that guy down the line but his success likely would depend on Aiyuk's success as our WR1. Feed Brandon's ego and throw a buttload of cash at him, what do they have to lose lol?
Not much to see from Drake Maye tonight playing just one drive where he completed two screen passes. Joe Milton on the other hand looked very Michael Bishop-esque, 5-6 54yds, a 38yd TD pass and two rushes for 25yds. I expect the nitwits on local STR to start talking about a QB controversy very soon.
One guy who stood out a bit early on was Kayshon Boutte who got three early passes for 53yds. Another game or two like that this preseason might be the nail in the coffin for Wrs like Tyquan Thornton, Jalen Reagor or Juju.
Staring Milton this year would probably be best to give them another year to get some more weapons before putting Maye in. Miltons the better video game player with his accuracy issues but Mayes the guy. Boutte is definitively their most talented pass catcher
Some news on the Aiyuk front. Apparently the Steelers are struggling to meet the 49ers trade request as the 49ers want a WR back as part of the package
Aiyuk turned down 32M a year from NE. Our local media has been trashing the Pats for not getting this deal done saying that they got cheap on the guaranteed money but that's total BS. Had Aiyuk agreed to a 4yr deal with NE paying him 32M a year he would have seen every single penny from that deal whether it was guaranteed or not. He would have had to be an absolute bomb on the field to not get paid every dollar on his deal during that 4 year stretch.
My prediction is he turns down both NE & Cleveland's offers and he ends up staying in SF.
It does seem like he really doesnt have any interest in the Pats or Browns and wants to go to the Steelers or even Washington if they can work something out.
The one thing thats really caught my interest is Lamb from Dallas where hes holding out and Jones decided to degrade him publicly. I'm starting to think Lamb might be more available than Aiyuk and I really don t know why. If Im in my 80s with 10 billion dollars im paying whatever to try and win
@erikthredd said:
One guy who stood out a bit early on was Kayshon Boutte who got three early passes for 53yds. Another game or two like that this preseason might be the nail in the coffin for Wrs like Tyquan Thornton, Jalen Reagor or Juju.
@erikthredd said:
One guy who stood out a bit early on was Kayshon Boutte who got three early passes for 53yds. Another game or two like that this preseason might be the nail in the coffin for Wrs like Tyquan Thornton, Jalen Reagor or Juju.
@erikthredd said:
One guy who stood out a bit early on was Kayshon Boutte who got three early passes for 53yds. Another game or two like that this preseason might be the nail in the coffin for Wrs like Tyquan Thornton, Jalen Reagor or Juju.
Granted the QB situation has been awful but he has been partly to blame himself for just not being good
He did get hurt and miss 10 games in 2023 but with a regime change across the board, he would have really had to Wow the new coaching staff in this training camp and obviously he hasn't. His '24 cap hit (roughly 10M) will take a decent chunk out of the remaining cap space that NE has but they'll still be capable of adding a big salary (or guarantees) if some really good player becomes available. (Not likely to happen,IMO)
@erikthredd said:
One guy who stood out a bit early on was Kayshon Boutte who got three early passes for 53yds. Another game or two like that this preseason might be the nail in the coffin for Wrs like Tyquan Thornton, Jalen Reagor or Juju.
Granted the QB situation has been awful but he has been partly to blame himself for just not being good
He did get hurt and miss 10 games in 2023 but with a regime change across the board, he would have really had to Wow the new coaching staff in this training camp and obviously he hasn't. His '24 cap hit (roughly 10M) will take a decent chunk out of the remaining cap space that NE has but they'll still be capable of adding a big salary (or guarantees) if some really good player becomes available. (Not likely to happen,IMO)
They will survive it and it's not the biggest waste of money but the bottom line is I'm not going to miss him even a little bit
@erikthredd said:
I don't care at all about winning or losing this game, I just want to see Drake Maye behind center for more than one series.
Yep and there is no reason why we shouldn't see what he has for a few quarters in my opinion
I get that they're somewhat worried because the O-Line is far from a finished product but i'd give Maye the first 3-4 series of the game with our top OL group blocking. Then with Brissett likely only playing 2-3 series at most, maybe have him start the second half with that same O-Line group.
I'm hoping to see all of Polk, Baker, Boutte & Douglas get more targets too. Rookie RB Terrell Jennings looked pretty solid last week vs Carolina, give him a few more carries too and so what he can do.
@erikthredd said:
I don't care at all about winning or losing this game, I just want to see Drake Maye behind center for more than one series.
Yep and there is no reason why we shouldn't see what he has for a few quarters in my opinion
I get that they're somewhat worried because the O-Line is far from a finished product but i'd give Maye the first 3-4 series of the game with our top OL group blocking. Then with Brissett likely only playing 2-3 series at most, maybe have him start the second half with that same O-Line group.
I'm hoping to see all of Polk, Baker, Boutte & Douglas get more targets too. Rookie RB Terrell Jennings looked pretty solid last week vs Carolina, give him a few more carries too and so what he can do.
I probably over spoke but at least a full quarter in my opinion would be ok
Zappe will be showcased and traded, there is little doubt that they will let Milton get grabbed off the practice squad so Zappe is gone, maybe Judon as well then carry 3 QB's?
Anything more than just one series for Maye would be a plus lol. I do think Milton probably does make the final 53 man roster but I'm not sure how much (or any) trade value Zappe would have, every team had a chance to claim him off waivers last September while he was on dirt cheap money and no team did.
Judon could be a valuable trade piece if they let him build up his trade value over the first month or two of the season. Teams are interested now but I doubt that they could get anything more than a late round pick for him. Bump up his salary a bit then give him 6-8 games to get that trade value up and maybe a 3rd or 4th is realistic at that point especially if he's hovering around averaging a sack per game which he's capable of. Any extra cash that gets floated on to his deal will likely be paid out by his new team, not NE. The front office would just need to appease the guy for now.
@stevek said:
Eagles versus Patriots in a pre-season game coming up this Thursday.
I wish ya good luck, but if it was a regular season game, I wouldn't. 😉
Let's hope both teams make it through without any injuries
The game is meaningless
I don't disagree with ya in the overall scheme of things.
That being said it may be important, maybe, for a pure rookie head coach to get some wins, even if its just pre-season. Developing a winning attitude, etc.
I realize there are various schools of thought regarding this, and I don't think any of them are necessarily right or wrong.
@stevek said:
Eagles versus Patriots in a pre-season game coming up this Thursday.
I wish ya good luck, but if it was a regular season game, I wouldn't. 😉
Let's hope both teams make it through without any injuries
The game is meaningless
I don't disagree with ya in the overall scheme of things.
That being said it may be important, maybe, for a pure rookie head coach to get some wins, even if its just pre-season. Developing a winning attitude, etc.
I realize there are various schools of thought regarding this, and I don't think any of them are necessarily right or wrong.
Valid points, the Pats got a W against Carolina first preseason game so that's one less thing the Pats need to prove lol
@stevek said:
Eagles versus Patriots in a pre-season game coming up this Thursday.
I wish ya good luck, but if it was a regular season game, I wouldn't. 😉
Let's hope both teams make it through without any injuries
The game is meaningless
I don't disagree with ya in the overall scheme of things.
That being said it may be important, maybe, for a pure rookie head coach to get some wins, even if its just pre-season. Developing a winning attitude, etc.
I realize there are various schools of thought regarding this, and I don't think any of them are necessarily right or wrong.
Mayo's not going anywhere anytime soon. Maybe a win on thursday would be great for bragging rights around here but in the overall grand scheme of things for NE, its not important at all.
This season is all about developing a young roster led by a rookie head coach and wins won't change much, only improvement from alot of young players as the season goes on.
edit: I honestly want to see them finish with another 4-13/5-12 type season while their young QB develops behind the scene. The only sure fire way to improve their roster is with better draft picks not free agents (at a time when no one wants to sign here.)
@stevek said:
Eagles versus Patriots in a pre-season game coming up this Thursday.
I wish ya good luck, but if it was a regular season game, I wouldn't. 😉
Let's hope both teams make it through without any injuries
The game is meaningless
I don't disagree with ya in the overall scheme of things.
That being said it may be important, maybe, for a pure rookie head coach to get some wins, even if its just pre-season. Developing a winning attitude, etc.
I realize there are various schools of thought regarding this, and I don't think any of them are necessarily right or wrong.
Mayo's not going anywhere anytime soon. Maybe a win on thursday would be great for bragging rights around here but in the overall grand scheme of things for NE, its not important at all.
This season is all about developing a young roster led by a rookie head coach and wins won't change much, only improvement from alot of young players as the season goes on.
edit: I honestly want to see them finish with another 4-13/5-12 type season while their young QB develops behind the scene. The only sure fire way to improve their roster is with better draft picks not free agents (at a time when no one wants to sign here.)
Don't disagree, but if ya ask Mayo I'd be 100% sure at this point in time, that he would say a pre-season win is better than a pre-season loss. To an Andy Reid, yes his pre-season loss last week meant absolutely positively nothing.
i like Mayo on a personal level. Whether he has the talent to be a winning NFL coach, frankly I have my doubts. Sorry to say he reminds me a little bit of the Mike Singletary situation when Mike became a head coach. And didn't have much success there.
But of course no two situations are exactly alike, so I truly wish the Patriots the best in the upcoming season.
Okay I just can't help myself - LOL - I wonder if towards the end of the upcoming season, a Patriots 50 yard line seat will be available for one dollar, including a free soda. 😉
@stevek said:
Eagles versus Patriots in a pre-season game coming up this Thursday.
I wish ya good luck, but if it was a regular season game, I wouldn't. 😉
Let's hope both teams make it through without any injuries
The game is meaningless
I don't disagree with ya in the overall scheme of things.
That being said it may be important, maybe, for a pure rookie head coach to get some wins, even if its just pre-season. Developing a winning attitude, etc.
I realize there are various schools of thought regarding this, and I don't think any of them are necessarily right or wrong.
Mayo's not going anywhere anytime soon. Maybe a win on thursday would be great for bragging rights around here but in the overall grand scheme of things for NE, its not important at all.
This season is all about developing a young roster led by a rookie head coach and wins won't change much, only improvement from alot of young players as the season goes on.
edit: I honestly want to see them finish with another 4-13/5-12 type season while their young QB develops behind the scene. The only sure fire way to improve their roster is with better draft picks not free agents (at a time when no one wants to sign here.)
Okay I just can't help myself - LOL - I wonder if towards the end of the upcoming season, a Patriots 50 yard line seat will be available for one dollar, including a free soda. 😉
I listened to a Bob Kraft radio interview earlier today where Bob sounded like he couldn't decide which flavor of pudding is his favorite, the team could probably sell $1 tickets and he might not even notice the difference.
I don't know how much preseason tickets cost to a Pats-Panthers matchup but there were a lot of unhappy fans last week who spent good money only to see Drake Maye play one series at quarterback.
I listened to a Bob Kraft radio interview earlier today where Bob sounded like he couldn't decide which flavor of pudding is his favorite, the team could probably sell $1 tickets and he might not even notice the difference.
I don't know how much preseason tickets cost to a Pats-Panthers matchup but there were a lot of unhappy fans last week who spent good money only to see Drake Maye play one series at quarterback.
Given that the Panthers had a regular season home game last year where tickets cost 45 cents I cant imagine it was much lol
I listened to a Bob Kraft radio interview earlier today where Bob sounded like he couldn't decide which flavor of pudding is his favorite, the team could probably sell $1 tickets and he might not even notice the difference.
I don't know how much preseason tickets cost to a Pats-Panthers matchup but there were a lot of unhappy fans last week who spent good money only to see Drake Maye play one series at quarterback.
Given that the Panthers had a regular season home game last year where tickets cost 45 cents I cant imagine it was much lol
I think the bookies have the Panthers odds to win the Super Bowl at, pick whatever number ya want to 1. 😂
I listened to a Bob Kraft radio interview earlier today where Bob sounded like he couldn't decide which flavor of pudding is his favorite, the team could probably sell $1 tickets and he might not even notice the difference.
I don't know how much preseason tickets cost to a Pats-Panthers matchup but there were a lot of unhappy fans last week who spent good money only to see Drake Maye play one series at quarterback.
Given that the Panthers had a regular season home game last year where tickets cost 45 cents I cant imagine it was much lol
This game was at Gillette stadium and it probably wasn't cheap when you factor in parking & food on top of tickets. At least Joe Milton was entertaining.
I listened to a Bob Kraft radio interview earlier today where Bob sounded like he couldn't decide which flavor of pudding is his favorite, the team could probably sell $1 tickets and he might not even notice the difference.
I don't know how much preseason tickets cost to a Pats-Panthers matchup but there were a lot of unhappy fans last week who spent good money only to see Drake Maye play one series at quarterback.
Given that the Panthers had a regular season home game last year where tickets cost 45 cents I cant imagine it was much lol
This game was at Gillette stadium and it probably wasn't cheap when you factor in parking & food on top of tickets. At least Joe Milton was entertaining.
And shame on anyone that goes to that game expecting anything more than an expensive night out
I listened to a Bob Kraft radio interview earlier today where Bob sounded like he couldn't decide which flavor of pudding is his favorite, the team could probably sell $1 tickets and he might not even notice the difference.
I don't know how much preseason tickets cost to a Pats-Panthers matchup but there were a lot of unhappy fans last week who spent good money only to see Drake Maye play one series at quarterback.
Given that the Panthers had a regular season home game last year where tickets cost 45 cents I cant imagine it was much lol
This game was at Gillette stadium and it probably wasn't cheap when you factor in parking & food on top of tickets. At least Joe Milton was entertaining.
And shame on anyone that goes to that game expecting anything more than an expensive night out
Maybe the fans who attended those Panthers games, just wanted to get away from it all for a few hours, for a little peace and quiet. Take a nice pleasant nap, etc. 😂
Nice. I thought a 3rd was best case scenario after maybe building up his trade value. The Falcons 2024 3rd rounder was pick #74 and likely to fall in that range again.
Using the Walter Football draft pick value chart, if NE had that extra 3rd (#74) in the 2024 draft to use in a trade up from their 2nd rounder at #34, that pick would have allowed NE to jump from 34 up to around picks 22 or 23. Heading into a 2025 draft needing both a Left Tackle and a WR1, this Judon trade just made acquiring those two positions much easier now. Just gotta lose alot of games this season to make that happen lol.
After this move I hope that we now see Keion White start filling that Matt Judon role in their pass rush. Next to Barmore he maybe their next most talented player from their front seven, let him loose.
@erikthredd said:
After this move I hope that we now see Keion White start filling that Matt Judon role in their pass rush. Next to Barmore he maybe their next most talented player from their front seven, let him loose.
Playing b2b2 thursday night preseason games are nothing new to the Pats, they've done this many times during Brady's career including some SB winning years.
And clearly they're not the worst team in football when they just beat the Carolina Panthers 17-3 a week ago lol. 😎
We need to see them keep losing their games, the only way that they get better players is with better draft picks.
I visited Patspulpit before the game just to see what the mood was like heading into kickoff and there were so many fans that thought this current OL was good enough to start Maye week 1. Yeah, they're clearly not lol, poor Brissett got ran over by a Mack truck and the OL play just got worse from there.
I did see alot that I really liked from Drake Maye that at least gives us some hope looking forward but he's far from a finished product though especially with that OL in front of him. Let Brissett (or Zappe) be the team's crash test dummy to start the season and just keep developing Maye behind the scene.
Polk & Baker are also starting to show some consistency too, I hope that we see them continue to get balls thrown their way. One thought on Pops Douglass is he's a small dude out there and took some pretty big hits during that first half, he always got up but that could catch up to him at some point.
I don't know how the final roster will play out but hopefully RBs Terrell Jennings & JaMycal Hasty and LB Joe Giles-Harris get to stick around long term. I also want to see Mayo cut the cord with Tyquan Thornton and keep Kayshon Boutte even if just ends up on the practice squad. Thornton's "speed" that everyone is enamored with isn't doing him any good out on the field.
Not that they'll look anywhere close to being great with him but if NE's center David Andrews goes down with another injury then they're officially doomed. They need a starting Left Tackle badly but a capable backup at the Center position is a huge need too. Hopefully, a somewhat reliable one gets waived or released over the next week that some team has no need for.
@erikthredd said:
Not that they'll look anywhere close to being great with him but if NE's center David Andrews goes down with another injury then they're officially doomed. They need a starting Left Tackle badly but a capable backup at the Center position is a huge need too. Hopefully, a somewhat reliable one gets waived or released over the next week that some team has no need for.
Big hopefully but as we all know OL especially good ones are tough to come by
@erikthredd said:
Not that they'll look anywhere close to being great with him but if NE's center David Andrews goes down with another injury then they're officially doomed. They need a starting Left Tackle badly but a capable backup at the Center position is a huge need too. Hopefully, a somewhat reliable one gets waived or released over the next week that some team has no need for.
Big hopefully but as we all know OL especially good ones are tough to come by
We just need a 2nd guy that can make a clean snap on a regular basis when their entire offense depends on that one aspect alone lol.
I don't know why this hasn't been mentioned more by the media around here but the Pats have had five different offensive line coordinators since Dante Scarnecchia retired after they beat the Rams to end the 2019 season. Its no wonder why they haven't been able to find any stability from their O line when they're switching out the guy in charge literally after every season.
@erikthredd said:
Not that they'll look anywhere close to being great with him but if NE's center David Andrews goes down with another injury then they're officially doomed. They need a starting Left Tackle badly but a capable backup at the Center position is a huge need too. Hopefully, a somewhat reliable one gets waived or released over the next week that some team has no need for.
Big hopefully but as we all know OL especially good ones are tough to come by
We just need a 2nd guy that can make a clean snap on a regular basis when their entire offense depends on that one aspect alone lol.
I don't know why this hasn't been mentioned more by the media around here but the Pats have had five different offensive line coordinators since Dante Scarnecchia retired after they beat the Rams to end the 2019 season. Its no wonder why they haven't been able to find any stability from their O line when they're switching out the guy in charge literally after every season.
Well they have taken a QB twice in the first round since 2019 and Kneal Harry after that I think, first round OL give you a solid chance at a good one
@erikthredd said:
Not that they'll look anywhere close to being great with him but if NE's center David Andrews goes down with another injury then they're officially doomed. They need a starting Left Tackle badly but a capable backup at the Center position is a huge need too. Hopefully, a somewhat reliable one gets waived or released over the next week that some team has no need for.
Big hopefully but as we all know OL especially good ones are tough to come by
We just need a 2nd guy that can make a clean snap on a regular basis when their entire offense depends on that one aspect alone lol.
I don't know why this hasn't been mentioned more by the media around here but the Pats have had five different offensive line coordinators since Dante Scarnecchia retired after they beat the Rams to end the 2019 season. Its no wonder why they haven't been able to find any stability from their O line when they're switching out the guy in charge literally after every season.
Well they have taken a QB twice in the first round since 2019 and Kneal Harry after that I think, first round OL give you a solid chance at a good one
Maye looks to be this team's future (whether he lives up to that hype remains to be seen) and they' have to be able to protect him. Maybe they should take a page from the Cowboys playbook like when Dallas used 3 first round picks in a 4 year stretch on Oline. Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick & Zack Martin anchored that line for years, not saying that NE's picks will all turn into All-Pro's like those three but offensive linemen in round one are usually the safest bets to succeed.
@erikthredd said:
Not that they'll look anywhere close to being great with him but if NE's center David Andrews goes down with another injury then they're officially doomed. They need a starting Left Tackle badly but a capable backup at the Center position is a huge need too. Hopefully, a somewhat reliable one gets waived or released over the next week that some team has no need for.
Big hopefully but as we all know OL especially good ones are tough to come by
We just need a 2nd guy that can make a clean snap on a regular basis when their entire offense depends on that one aspect alone lol.
I don't know why this hasn't been mentioned more by the media around here but the Pats have had five different offensive line coordinators since Dante Scarnecchia retired after they beat the Rams to end the 2019 season. Its no wonder why they haven't been able to find any stability from their O line when they're switching out the guy in charge literally after every season.
Well they have taken a QB twice in the first round since 2019 and Kneal Harry after that I think, first round OL give you a solid chance at a good one
Maye looks to be this team's future (whether he lives up to that hype remains to be seen) and they' have to be able to protect him. Maybe they should take a page from the Cowboys playbook like when Dallas used 3 first round picks in a 4 year stretch on Oline. Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick & Zack Martin anchored that line for years, not saying that NE's picks will all turn into All-Pro's like those three but offensive linemen in round one are usually the safest bets to succeed.
The Maye pick was the correct choice, if he lives up to his draft position then yes I'd like to see first round draft picks go to the OL
That being said I want them to be careful with him, I don't want to see his confidence shattered from running for his life as soon as the ball is snapped
@erikthredd said:
Not that they'll look anywhere close to being great with him but if NE's center David Andrews goes down with another injury then they're officially doomed. They need a starting Left Tackle badly but a capable backup at the Center position is a huge need too. Hopefully, a somewhat reliable one gets waived or released over the next week that some team has no need for.
Big hopefully but as we all know OL especially good ones are tough to come by
We just need a 2nd guy that can make a clean snap on a regular basis when their entire offense depends on that one aspect alone lol.
I don't know why this hasn't been mentioned more by the media around here but the Pats have had five different offensive line coordinators since Dante Scarnecchia retired after they beat the Rams to end the 2019 season. Its no wonder why they haven't been able to find any stability from their O line when they're switching out the guy in charge literally after every season.
Well they have taken a QB twice in the first round since 2019 and Kneal Harry after that I think, first round OL give you a solid chance at a good one
Maye looks to be this team's future (whether he lives up to that hype remains to be seen) and they' have to be able to protect him. Maybe they should take a page from the Cowboys playbook like when Dallas used 3 first round picks in a 4 year stretch on Oline. Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick & Zack Martin anchored that line for years, not saying that NE's picks will all turn into All-Pro's like those three but offensive linemen in round one are usually the safest bets to succeed.
The Maye pick was the correct choice, if he lives up to his draft position then yes I'd like to see first round draft picks go to the OL
That being said I want them to be careful with him, I don't want to see his confidence shattered from running for his life as soon as the ball is snapped
He'll definitely be running for his life at times because of the OL play but they also need to get him out of the habit of wanting to start running for life. Even though he has a strong arm they've been trying to get him to be more mobile in the pocket. Maybe instead of taking off in what would probably still be a positive yardage play, learn to slide around to let the play develop a little longer.
This kid has really got all of the tools that you'd want in a young QB to work with especially at the age of 21. Just don't rush this process hoping for a quick fix.
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From what I've read, it boils down to Aiyuk prefers to go to Pittsburgh or Washington but neither team is willing to pay the 49ers asking price while Cleveland & New England are both willing to pay what SanFran and Aiyuk are both looking for but he's hesitant about signing with either team. Aiyuk will probably need to be more open to where he may go because the 49ers have zero incentive to trade him for anything less than what they think he's worth, we'll see who ultimately caves first.
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Let's be honest, if it's a solid situation he is looking for with the money then neither place is all that great
I'm sure money is his first choice then the best situation.
I'm ok with the Pats paying him but only if we get him for multiple years, but he needs to know this up coming season is not going to mirror anything like SF in 2023
He knows what he's getting himself into here, his agent would have laid out every scenario long before now. As for the length of his new deal I doubt that it will be for less than four years. Every team knows going in that he's looking for a high end contract and the 14M 5th year option that's he's currently on probably gets voided out with that four year deal replacing it.
Now can NE convince him to sign here? 🤷♂️
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Right now there's no face to the New England franchise and their front office should be selling Aiyuk on becoming that guy here. Maye may end up as that guy down the line but his success likely would depend on Aiyuk's success as our WR1. Feed Brandon's ego and throw a buttload of cash at him, what do they have to lose lol?
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We're finally getting our first look at Drake Maye tonight. Mayo said that everyone that is healthy enough to play, will.
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Not much to see from Drake Maye tonight playing just one drive where he completed two screen passes. Joe Milton on the other hand looked very Michael Bishop-esque, 5-6 54yds, a 38yd TD pass and two rushes for 25yds. I expect the nitwits on local STR to start talking about a QB controversy very soon.
One guy who stood out a bit early on was Kayshon Boutte who got three early passes for 53yds. Another game or two like that this preseason might be the nail in the coffin for Wrs like Tyquan Thornton, Jalen Reagor or Juju.
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Staring Milton this year would probably be best to give them another year to get some more weapons before putting Maye in. Miltons the better video game player with his accuracy issues but Mayes the guy. Boutte is definitively their most talented pass catcher
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Some news on the Aiyuk front. Apparently the Steelers are struggling to meet the 49ers trade request as the 49ers want a WR back as part of the package
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Aiyuk turned down 32M a year from NE. Our local media has been trashing the Pats for not getting this deal done saying that they got cheap on the guaranteed money but that's total BS. Had Aiyuk agreed to a 4yr deal with NE paying him 32M a year he would have seen every single penny from that deal whether it was guaranteed or not. He would have had to be an absolute bomb on the field to not get paid every dollar on his deal during that 4 year stretch.
My prediction is he turns down both NE & Cleveland's offers and he ends up staying in SF.
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It does seem like he really doesnt have any interest in the Pats or Browns and wants to go to the Steelers or even Washington if they can work something out.
The one thing thats really caught my interest is Lamb from Dallas where hes holding out and Jones decided to degrade him publicly. I'm starting to think Lamb might be more available than Aiyuk and I really don t know why. If Im in my 80s with 10 billion dollars im paying whatever to try and win
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Well that didn't take long.🤣
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40795144/source-patriots-releasing-wr-juju-smith-schuster
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Good, the guy has been a complete waste of money
Granted the QB situation has been awful but he has been partly to blame himself for just not being good
He did get hurt and miss 10 games in 2023 but with a regime change across the board, he would have really had to Wow the new coaching staff in this training camp and obviously he hasn't. His '24 cap hit (roughly 10M) will take a decent chunk out of the remaining cap space that NE has but they'll still be capable of adding a big salary (or guarantees) if some really good player becomes available. (Not likely to happen,IMO)
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They will survive it and it's not the biggest waste of money but the bottom line is I'm not going to miss him even a little bit
Eagles versus Patriots in a pre-season game coming up this Thursday.
I wish ya good luck, but if it was a regular season game, I wouldn't. 😉
Let's hope both teams make it through without any injuries
The game is meaningless
I don't care at all about winning or losing this game, I just want to see Drake Maye behind center for more than one series.
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Yep and there is no reason why we shouldn't see what he has for a few quarters in my opinion
I get that they're somewhat worried because the O-Line is far from a finished product but i'd give Maye the first 3-4 series of the game with our top OL group blocking. Then with Brissett likely only playing 2-3 series at most, maybe have him start the second half with that same O-Line group.
I'm hoping to see all of Polk, Baker, Boutte & Douglas get more targets too. Rookie RB Terrell Jennings looked pretty solid last week vs Carolina, give him a few more carries too and so what he can do.
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I probably over spoke but at least a full quarter in my opinion would be ok
Zappe will be showcased and traded, there is little doubt that they will let Milton get grabbed off the practice squad so Zappe is gone, maybe Judon as well then carry 3 QB's?
Anything more than just one series for Maye would be a plus lol. I do think Milton probably does make the final 53 man roster but I'm not sure how much (or any) trade value Zappe would have, every team had a chance to claim him off waivers last September while he was on dirt cheap money and no team did.
Judon could be a valuable trade piece if they let him build up his trade value over the first month or two of the season. Teams are interested now but I doubt that they could get anything more than a late round pick for him. Bump up his salary a bit then give him 6-8 games to get that trade value up and maybe a 3rd or 4th is realistic at that point especially if he's hovering around averaging a sack per game which he's capable of. Any extra cash that gets floated on to his deal will likely be paid out by his new team, not NE. The front office would just need to appease the guy for now.
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I don't disagree with ya in the overall scheme of things.
That being said it may be important, maybe, for a pure rookie head coach to get some wins, even if its just pre-season. Developing a winning attitude, etc.
I realize there are various schools of thought regarding this, and I don't think any of them are necessarily right or wrong.
Valid points, the Pats got a W against Carolina first preseason game so that's one less thing the Pats need to prove lol
Mayo's not going anywhere anytime soon. Maybe a win on thursday would be great for bragging rights around here but in the overall grand scheme of things for NE, its not important at all.
This season is all about developing a young roster led by a rookie head coach and wins won't change much, only improvement from alot of young players as the season goes on.
edit: I honestly want to see them finish with another 4-13/5-12 type season while their young QB develops behind the scene. The only sure fire way to improve their roster is with better draft picks not free agents (at a time when no one wants to sign here.)
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Don't disagree, but if ya ask Mayo I'd be 100% sure at this point in time, that he would say a pre-season win is better than a pre-season loss. To an Andy Reid, yes his pre-season loss last week meant absolutely positively nothing.
i like Mayo on a personal level. Whether he has the talent to be a winning NFL coach, frankly I have my doubts. Sorry to say he reminds me a little bit of the Mike Singletary situation when Mike became a head coach. And didn't have much success there.
But of course no two situations are exactly alike, so I truly wish the Patriots the best in the upcoming season.
Okay I just can't help myself - LOL - I wonder if towards the end of the upcoming season, a Patriots 50 yard line seat will be available for one dollar, including a free soda. 😉
I listened to a Bob Kraft radio interview earlier today where Bob sounded like he couldn't decide which flavor of pudding is his favorite, the team could probably sell $1 tickets and he might not even notice the difference.
I don't know how much preseason tickets cost to a Pats-Panthers matchup but there were a lot of unhappy fans last week who spent good money only to see Drake Maye play one series at quarterback.
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Given that the Panthers had a regular season home game last year where tickets cost 45 cents I cant imagine it was much lol
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I think the bookies have the Panthers odds to win the Super Bowl at, pick whatever number ya want to 1. 😂
This game was at Gillette stadium and it probably wasn't cheap when you factor in parking & food on top of tickets. At least Joe Milton was entertaining.
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And shame on anyone that goes to that game expecting anything more than an expensive night out
Maybe the fans who attended those Panthers games, just wanted to get away from it all for a few hours, for a little peace and quiet. Take a nice pleasant nap, etc. 😂
Judon to the Falcons for a 3rd round pick according to Rap
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Nice. I thought a 3rd was best case scenario after maybe building up his trade value. The Falcons 2024 3rd rounder was pick #74 and likely to fall in that range again.
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Using the Walter Football draft pick value chart, if NE had that extra 3rd (#74) in the 2024 draft to use in a trade up from their 2nd rounder at #34, that pick would have allowed NE to jump from 34 up to around picks 22 or 23. Heading into a 2025 draft needing both a Left Tackle and a WR1, this Judon trade just made acquiring those two positions much easier now. Just gotta lose alot of games this season to make that happen lol.
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Zappe will be cut after the last pre season game I bet
After this move I hope that we now see Keion White start filling that Matt Judon role in their pass rush. Next to Barmore he maybe their next most talented player from their front seven, let him loose.
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Agreed
Very good drive for Drake Maye there.
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confirmation the Pats are the worst team in the NFL !
has any other team ever had to play consecutive thursday night preseason games?
Playing b2b2 thursday night preseason games are nothing new to the Pats, they've done this many times during Brady's career including some SB winning years.
And clearly they're not the worst team in football when they just beat the Carolina Panthers 17-3 a week ago lol. 😎
We need to see them keep losing their games, the only way that they get better players is with better draft picks.
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LoL don't know why or when that last comment double posted.
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I visited Patspulpit before the game just to see what the mood was like heading into kickoff and there were so many fans that thought this current OL was good enough to start Maye week 1. Yeah, they're clearly not lol, poor Brissett got ran over by a Mack truck and the OL play just got worse from there.
I did see alot that I really liked from Drake Maye that at least gives us some hope looking forward but he's far from a finished product though especially with that OL in front of him. Let Brissett (or Zappe) be the team's crash test dummy to start the season and just keep developing Maye behind the scene.
Polk & Baker are also starting to show some consistency too, I hope that we see them continue to get balls thrown their way. One thought on Pops Douglass is he's a small dude out there and took some pretty big hits during that first half, he always got up but that could catch up to him at some point.
I don't know how the final roster will play out but hopefully RBs Terrell Jennings & JaMycal Hasty and LB Joe Giles-Harris get to stick around long term. I also want to see Mayo cut the cord with Tyquan Thornton and keep Kayshon Boutte even if just ends up on the practice squad. Thornton's "speed" that everyone is enamored with isn't doing him any good out on the field.
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Not that they'll look anywhere close to being great with him but if NE's center David Andrews goes down with another injury then they're officially doomed. They need a starting Left Tackle badly but a capable backup at the Center position is a huge need too. Hopefully, a somewhat reliable one gets waived or released over the next week that some team has no need for.
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Big hopefully but as we all know OL especially good ones are tough to come by
We just need a 2nd guy that can make a clean snap on a regular basis when their entire offense depends on that one aspect alone lol.
I don't know why this hasn't been mentioned more by the media around here but the Pats have had five different offensive line coordinators since Dante Scarnecchia retired after they beat the Rams to end the 2019 season. Its no wonder why they haven't been able to find any stability from their O line when they're switching out the guy in charge literally after every season.
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Well they have taken a QB twice in the first round since 2019 and Kneal Harry after that I think, first round OL give you a solid chance at a good one
Maye looks to be this team's future (whether he lives up to that hype remains to be seen) and they' have to be able to protect him. Maybe they should take a page from the Cowboys playbook like when Dallas used 3 first round picks in a 4 year stretch on Oline. Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick & Zack Martin anchored that line for years, not saying that NE's picks will all turn into All-Pro's like those three but offensive linemen in round one are usually the safest bets to succeed.
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The Maye pick was the correct choice, if he lives up to his draft position then yes I'd like to see first round draft picks go to the OL
That being said I want them to be careful with him, I don't want to see his confidence shattered from running for his life as soon as the ball is snapped
He'll definitely be running for his life at times because of the OL play but they also need to get him out of the habit of wanting to start running for life. Even though he has a strong arm they've been trying to get him to be more mobile in the pocket. Maybe instead of taking off in what would probably still be a positive yardage play, learn to slide around to let the play develop a little longer.
This kid has really got all of the tools that you'd want in a young QB to work with especially at the age of 21. Just don't rush this process hoping for a quick fix.
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