@erikthredd said:
NE signed undrafted rookie RB Terrell Jennings to a 3yr/2.8M deal. They must really like this guy with signing him to a 3yr deal before really getting a look at him in training camp.
@erikthredd said:
NE signed undrafted rookie RB Terrell Jennings to a 3yr/2.8M deal. They must really like this guy with signing him to a 3yr deal before really getting a look at him in training camp.
I think they just cut a RB the other day
Yup, Ke'Shawn Vaughn. He never even played for NE.
Rhamondre Stevenson just got a new 4yr/36M/17G extension. Looks like the new front office is locking up every young player on the roster worth extending at pretty fair market value. The team's financial situation really couldn't be any better than it currently is, the only player on the roster that isn't on a multi year deal whose worth re-signing is Matt Judon,who is 32 and coming off a lost season.
They still have roughly 43M in cap space for 2024 and are expected to have roughly 120-140M available next offseason. Stevenson's deal may still need to be accounted for but it shouldn't even put a dent in their cap and they have the ability to take on another large contract or two if a really good player becomes available.
I haven't kept up too closely with Maye's progress but the majority of reports says he's been everything that they were hoping and expecting. None of that means a thing until he can show it in real games against opposing teams but so far so good. Can't wait to finally get a look at this kid in a game, we only have about a month and a half away to go till preseason starts on 8-8.
@erikthredd said:
Rhamondre Stevenson just got a new 4yr/36M/17G extension. Looks like the new front office is locking up every young player on the roster worth extending at pretty fair market value. The team's financial situation really couldn't be any better than it currently is, the only player on the roster that isn't on a multi year deal whose worth re-signing is Matt Judon,who is 32 and coming off a lost season.
They still have roughly 43M in cap space for 2024 and are expected to have roughly 120-140M available next offseason. Stevenson's deal may still need to be accounted for but it shouldn't even put a dent in their cap and they have the ability to take on another large contract or two if a really good player becomes available.
I haven't kept up too closely with Maye's progress but the majority of reports says he's been everything that they were hoping and expecting. None of that means a thing until he can show it in real games against opposing teams but so far so good. Can't wait to finally get a look at this kid in a game, we only have about a month and a half away to go till preseason starts on 8-8.
Love the updates, thank you
I'm getting extremely excited for this season. Not that I think the Pats are going to make a run at the playoffs but I'm hoping the roster can come together with some solid direction, I don't want to see Maye out there at least till mid season
@erikthredd said:
Rhamondre Stevenson just got a new 4yr/36M/17G extension. Looks like the new front office is locking up every young player on the roster worth extending at pretty fair market value. The team's financial situation really couldn't be any better than it currently is, the only player on the roster that isn't on a multi year deal whose worth re-signing is Matt Judon,who is 32 and coming off a lost season.
They still have roughly 43M in cap space for 2024 and are expected to have roughly 120-140M available next offseason. Stevenson's deal may still need to be accounted for but it shouldn't even put a dent in their cap and they have the ability to take on another large contract or two if a really good player becomes available.
I haven't kept up too closely with Maye's progress but the majority of reports says he's been everything that they were hoping and expecting. None of that means a thing until he can show it in real games against opposing teams but so far so good. Can't wait to finally get a look at this kid in a game, we only have about a month and a half away to go till preseason starts on 8-8.
Love the updates, thank you
I'm getting extremely excited for this season. Not that I think the Pats are going to make a run at the playoffs but I'm hoping the roster can come together with some solid direction, I don't want to see Maye out there at least till mid season
I just hope that their offensive line gels and they're playing with some continuity at that point they feel like Maye is ready. I'm not expecting miracles but I really do want to see how he looks with some OL protection. We just saw how bad the offense can look if they don't do their job, everyone else can't do theirs.
I watched Brady's entire speech, and also Belichick's entire speech which is on Youtube. Belichick got one heckuva ovation, as of course did Brady. Two great speeches for sure.
One "funny" thing is Brady failed to mention Bridget or Gisele.
The 10k remark about Edelman was funny as yell. LOL
@perkdog said:
That is awesome, definitely a nice gesture from Kraft
I highly doubt we will be reading about Brady Hocking his rings any time soon and now he has another
IIRC NFL players also get a ring for losing the Super Bowl/winning their conference championship too. Once he adds his NFL HOF ring that will be one hell of a ring collection, I wonder if the public will ever get to see it as a whole?
@perkdog said:
That is awesome, definitely a nice gesture from Kraft
I highly doubt we will be reading about Brady Hocking his rings any time soon and now he has another
IIRC NFL players also get a ring for losing the Super Bowl/winning their conference championship too. Once he adds his NFL HOF ring that will be one hell of a ring collection, I wonder if the public will ever get to see it as a whole?
I'm sure they are earmarked for his kids but a display at his HOF induction would be pretty cool
Anytime I hear these "Cryptic Social Media" posts it just annoys me for some reason. If I was a GM I would literally just hold that against the player and stand firm on an offer less than what they want
Anytime I hear these "Cryptic Social Media" posts it just annoys me for some reason. If I was a GM I would literally just hold that against the player and stand firm on an offer less than what they want
He's 32 and coming off of a biceps injury that caused him to miss the final 13 games of last season, it should be pretty obvious to Matt & his agent that the front office is waiting to see how he recovers from that injury before signing him to a contract that pays him 10M+ a year. That they haven't traded him to this point should also be a sign that they're still in on him coming back and doing his thing again.
IIRC the only contracts that they gave out this offseason to anyone over 30 was a 1yr deal to Brissett and a short term restructure/extension for David Andrews pretty much because there's no one else on the roster that has experience doing his job.
Sounds like either Matt's up in his feels or someone around him has him feeling like he's unwanted in NE because they gave everyone else new deals but him. Due to how large his salary would be, the team is just be cautious.
edit: I wouldn't give up on him yet. If he comes back at 80-90% that he was preinjury that is still a damn good pass rusher and they do have the money to lock him in for a 2-3 more years without it really affecting their cap.
The main issue from NE's end is they'd be giving up picks and then a top of the market contract. They have the cap space and their QB over the next 4-5yrs will be on rookie money so they could afford his contract easy enough. It really comes down to does SF let him go and what would be the final cost in picks?
IDK. I'm not down with signing a high maintenance WR right now, not saying Aiyuk is a diva but let's get the OL and our QB squared away before we start looking at WR's unless we can get upper level guys for multiple years without melting that cap money, it will go quicker than we think
These type of Alpha WRs don't really become available often and when they do you gotta pay the going rate. There's no guarantee that SF will even move him but the Pats need to take that chance if they do. Their draft history has been subpar just finding competent wideouts and if the front office doesn't take that chance now when they're sitting on 40+M in 2024 cap space and 100+M for 2025 then there's no better time to try.
Plus just like with the cost to land a high end QB, the cost to acquire top notch WRs in cap money and in trade assets will only go up with each WR1 that hits the market. Today's cost will be less than what it will be a year or two from now.
Aiyuk is 26 and heading into his prime, I'd much rather see us go after him than wideouts on the back end of their careers like Davante Adams or Stefon Diggs or someone that is a marginal WR1 at best in Calvin Ridley.
Paying a top WR salary isn't going to be an issue when literally the entire team is locked up for the foreseeable future. The only real question would be what's the cost in picks and afaik NE still owns all of their future draft picks so that shouldn't be an issue at all.
@erikthredd said:
These type of Alpha WRs don't really become available often and when they do you gotta pay the going rate. There's no guarantee that SF will even move him but the Pats need to take that chance if they do. Their draft history has been subpar just finding competent wideouts and if the front office doesn't take that chance now when they're sitting on 40+M in 2024 cap space and 100+M for 2025 then there's no better time to try.
Plus just like with the cost to land a high end QB, the cost to acquire top notch WRs in cap money and in trade assets will only go up with each WR1 that hits the market. Today's cost will be less than what it will be a year or two from now.
Aiyuk is 26 and heading into his prime, I'd much rather see us go after him than wideouts on the back end of their careers like Davante Adams or Stefon Diggs or someone that is a marginal WR1 at best in Calvin Ridley.
Paying a top WR salary isn't going to be an issue when literally the entire team is locked up for the foreseeable future. The only real question would be what's the cost in picks and afaik NE still owns all of their future draft picks so that shouldn't be an issue at all.
@Basebal21 said:
NFL hasnt made a decision yet, but someone powerful pulled some strings and the more than 8,900 charges against Boutte have been dropped
He might have a chance at a career now that Hoodie is gone
@Basebal21 said:
NFL hasnt made a decision yet, but someone powerful pulled some strings and the more than 8,900 charges against Boutte have been dropped
He might have a chance at a career now that Hoodie is gone
I'm curious if the NFL will do anything, but from the comments and everything else it certainly seems like they want to have him on the field. He would certainly give them something they havent had in a while if that right ankle is good.
@Basebal21 said:
NFL hasnt made a decision yet, but someone powerful pulled some strings and the more than 8,900 charges against Boutte have been dropped
He might have a chance at a career now that Hoodie is gone
I'm curious if the NFL will do anything, but from the comments and everything else it certainly seems like they want to have him on the field. He would certainly give them something they havent had in a while if that right ankle is good.
I don't know a ton about him. but if the kid can put his legal troubles behind him I'd hope that he is at least given a chance.
Belichick didn't like the kid and he never saw the field. Like Bill didn't care if he ruined this kids career or not. There was no reason why he didn't see more playing time last year other than Bill holding the kid back.
@Basebal21 said:
NFL hasnt made a decision yet, but someone powerful pulled some strings and the more than 8,900 charges against Boutte have been dropped
He might have a chance at a career now that Hoodie is gone
I'm curious if the NFL will do anything, but from the comments and everything else it certainly seems like they want to have him on the field. He would certainly give them something they havent had in a while if that right ankle is good.
I don't know a ton about him. but if the kid can put his legal troubles behind him I'd hope that he is at least given a chance.
Belichick didn't like the kid and he never saw the field. Like Bill didn't care if he ruined this kids career or not. There was no reason why he didn't see more playing time last year other than Bill holding the kid back.
Hes an interesting story to me legal stuff excluded. I remember him as a freshman All American at LSU who a lot of college guys thought he was going to be a first round pick. Nabers ended up coming in and taking his job as the number 1 but he would have done that to basically anyone. The ankle surgeries on the same ankle dont really matter at this point, he can either play or he cant, hes already been drafted.
Hes got some drop issues but also play making ability. I dont think hes going to be a 1 but if his off the field stuff is over and hes healthy hes got a shot of being a legit 2 or 3 that could add some play making ability
I really didnt like how Bill treated the situation either. Either say its off the field stuff or see what he can do in a throw away year
Pats reportedly offered a 2nd rounder for Aiyuk which the 49ers turned down. Supposedly they made a second offer which was also turned down as were some offers from other teams. Aiyuk requested a trade but seems the 49ers are trying to keep the team together one more year before they have major cap and free agency issues
@Basebal21 said:
Pats reportedly offered a 2nd rounder for Aiyuk which the 49ers turned down. Supposedly they made a second offer which was also turned down as were some offers from other teams. Aiyuk requested a trade but seems the 49ers are trying to keep the team together one more year before they have major cap and free agency issues
It sounds like he will be a distraction come training camp,
I guess I would have been ok with a 2nd rounder for him
San Fran isn't giving up Aiyuk for just a 2nd rounder, not even had it been NE's 34th pick from the 2024 draft.
These were some of the more recent trades for elite WRs:
DeAndre Hopkins to Arizona for a 2nd plus starting RB David Johnson.
Stefon Diggs to Buffalo for a 1st,5th,6th + future 4th. (Diggs was then a salary dump years later going to Houston with two late picks for a 2nd.)
Julio Jones plus a 6th to the Titans for a 2nd & 4th.
Davante Adams to the Raiders for a 1st & 2nd.
Tyreek Hill to Miami for 1st,2nd & 4th rounders plus a future 4th & 6th rounder.
AJ Brown to Philly for a 1st & 3rd.
I'd expect an Aiyuk trade package to be comparable to AJ Brown's at the very least. I used the AJ Brown trade because he got dealt going into year 4, Aiyuk is heading into year 5 and pretty much all of those other WRs were traded after year 5 or later.
The main problem is NE's 2025 1st will likely land in the top 10-12 picks maybe even top 5 again. In that case the Pats could just draft one of the top 2-3 WRs in the 2025 draft and only have to pay him rookie scale money without needing to fork over more picks in an Aiyuk trade.
If SF does trade Aiyuk to NE its likely going to be for either their 2025 1st alone (maybe with a future 5th or 6th thrown in) or a package of picks starting with their 2nd rounder plus multiple later picks in 2025 & 2026. SF will probably just hold out until they get what think is a legit package for him and I wouldn't blame them.
IMO,Aiyuk is a stud wideout in every sense and worth that 1st round pick especially for a team like NE whose WR draft history has been horrible. 81% of Aiyuk receptions in 2023 were either 1st downs or touchdowns which is an insane stat.
Even better is PFT reporting that he was looking for a contract that will pay him around 28M/yr which is less than the 30+M/yr I was expecting it might take to land him.
I'm ok with NE giving up their 2025 1st plus a future 3rd or 4th for Aiyuk. SF is trying to get back to the SB and maybe NE's 1st along with Matt Judon might entice them. He has the 11th most sacks over the past 5 seasons and that was with missing most of 2023. Judon would be a perfect fit across from Nick Bosa
He actually is worth so much more than a 2nd and the only reason why that 2nd round pick alone is being talked about by the media is because that was NE's initial lowball offer. If the Pats had made a realistic offer then we wouldn't be hearing about it and the two teams would likely still be working on a deal behind the scene.
EDIT: that offer of a 2nd round pick was actually made during the draft when NE offered their 34th pick. There may have been a Pats offer since then but I haven't seen any mention of one online.
Perk, if SF decided to keep Aiyuk and trade Deebo instead would you want NE to trade for him?
@erikthredd said:
He actually is worth so much more than a 2nd and the only reason why that 2nd round pick alone is being talked about by the media is because that was NE's initial lowball offer. If the Pats had made a realistic offer then we wouldn't be hearing about it and the two teams would likely still be working on a deal behind the scene.
EDIT: that offer of a 2nd round pick was actually made during the draft when NE offered their 34th pick. There may have been a Pats offer since then but I haven't seen any mention of one online.
Perk, if SF decided to keep Aiyuk and trade Deebo instead would you want NE to trade for him?
I'd be happy with either one lol
All I was saying that for SF it would be smart to try and work something out with teams before he becomes massively disgruntled and causes distractions, once teams see that the value goes down.
Or they could keep him and pay him, he is very talented but If he is pissed off and gets dumped to another team they will inherit the problem if he wants a long term big money contract
@erikthredd said:
He actually is worth so much more than a 2nd and the only reason why that 2nd round pick alone is being talked about by the media is because that was NE's initial lowball offer. If the Pats had made a realistic offer then we wouldn't be hearing about it and the two teams would likely still be working on a deal behind the scene.
EDIT: that offer of a 2nd round pick was actually made during the draft when NE offered their 34th pick. There may have been a Pats offer since then but I haven't seen any mention of one online.
Perk, if SF decided to keep Aiyuk and trade Deebo instead would you want NE to trade for him?
I'd be happy with either one lol
All I was saying that for SF it would be smart to try and work something out with teams before he becomes massively disgruntled and causes distractions, once teams see that the value goes down.
Or they could keep him and pay him, he is very talented but If he is pissed off and gets dumped to another team they will inherit the problem if he wants a long term big money contract
Good answer, that was a loaded question lol. Right now Aiyuk is doing the same things Deebo did back in 2022 when he wanted to get paid. This current situation mirrored that one and BA is going to get paid, the only question is by who. I doubt that he gets traded without the acquiring team agreeing to a top of the market type deal at the time if trade. Aiyuk would have to go Antonio Brown totes cray cray for SF to just dump him at the first offer.
Where NE is expected to finish with a top 10 pick again it wouldn't hurt to try offering a package based around their 2025 1st meeting certain conditions. SF would get our next 1st rounder if NE reaches 8-9 wins or they make the playoffs. If NE doesn't reach those certain parameters then SF gets some other agreed upon deal where its like a 2nd + later round pick in 2025 and a couple mid round picks the following year. Just pay the price for that elite,in his prime, "X" Wr1, he'll make life so much easier for his teammates when he forces defenses to send help his way. That's priceless in this current rendition of NFL football.
Aiyuk showed up to camp. Not sure how smart that is on his part if they arent even making progress and seems to make a trade even less likely. According to Rapoport they havent had real talks since May
SF could always give in and sign him long term then see how their season unwinds before making a final decision to trade him next offseason. Even then, an elite WR1 under contract for at least the following three seasons would have some crazy value on the trade market. If they can win the SB maybe they keep him around longer. if they don't win the SB and rookie WR Ricky Pearsall looks good in year one maybe then the 49ers could afford trading off one of their high salaried wideouts.
If I had to choose the most likely ending here its he stays in San Fran at least for the next 2-3 seasons.
His demands are certainly reasonable and a number of teams Pats included were willing to extend him if a trade worked out. Aside from the major cap/free agency issues next year the 49ers have a bigger issue with Trent Williams actually holding out and not showing up. I agree Aiyuk is probably going to stay there this year unless someone really overpays but the Williams thing is an interesting wrinkle in the whole thing
Seeing Vikings LT Christian Darrisaw sign his recent 4yr/113M deal probably didn't sit well with Trent Williams who has been voted First team All-Pro for three straight seasons. He's arguably one of the top 2 left tackles in football along with Penei Sewell in Detroit.
I guess one positive for teams trying to acquire Brandon Aiyuk is SF may not want to pay all three of Aiyuk, Williams and Brock Purdy in the very near future. The 49ers also have another elite WR in Deebo and they can't say the same for the QB & LT positions.
I dont know him personally but I feel bad for Christian Barmore with his blood clots. I had a botched knee surgery that ended my career with those. Generally its 6 months of blood thinners where you obviously cant be playing football on those and not a great sign that they seemed to happen in a non surgical situation
Sounds like the 49ers have agreed on the framework for an Aiyuk trade with both the Pats & Browns and now its up to those two teams to woo him with a high crapton of cash. I'm not sure how accurate all of the trade details have been but these are the three that I've seen mentioned the most:
Aiyuk to NE for their 2025 2nd, Matt Judon & Kendrick Bourne
Aiyuk to NE for a 1st & Kendrick Bourne
Aiuyk to Cleveland for a 1st & Amari Cooper
NE's picks are projected to land much higher in the draft than Cleveland's which means the Pats are likely offering their 2026 1st or a 2025 2nd. The Browns are offering the better WR in return.
Money shouldn't be an issue for Kraft and their front office when everyone of consequence on their roster is already locked up long term and they still have 40Mish of cap for 2025 and roughly 100M for 2026. They could give Aiyuk 30M a year and it won't hurt their cap at all going forward.
Going to be interesting to see who ultimately lands Aiyuk, I'd expect to see a trade happen very soon. Pittsburgh was also mentioned as a possible destination.
Supposedly he was given permission to negotiate with DC, Pitt, Browns, and Pats. I would assume the 49ers are hoping it will be the Pats since that will likely be the highest pick, but it sounds like its completely up to him at this point
I kind of think Washington might be the front runner if theyre willing to pay up since him and Daniels have been talking
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I think they just cut a RB the other day
Yup, Ke'Shawn Vaughn. He never even played for NE.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40280162/bill-belichick-meets-croatian-national-soccer-team-honored-president
Bill has updated his catchphrase Do Your Job Radite svoj posao!
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Haven't watched this yet but its Brady's Pats HOF induction.
EDIT: Here's an updated link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XpFfyG_hx4
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Nice
Rhamondre Stevenson just got a new 4yr/36M/17G extension. Looks like the new front office is locking up every young player on the roster worth extending at pretty fair market value. The team's financial situation really couldn't be any better than it currently is, the only player on the roster that isn't on a multi year deal whose worth re-signing is Matt Judon,who is 32 and coming off a lost season.
They still have roughly 43M in cap space for 2024 and are expected to have roughly 120-140M available next offseason. Stevenson's deal may still need to be accounted for but it shouldn't even put a dent in their cap and they have the ability to take on another large contract or two if a really good player becomes available.
I haven't kept up too closely with Maye's progress but the majority of reports says he's been everything that they were hoping and expecting. None of that means a thing until he can show it in real games against opposing teams but so far so good. Can't wait to finally get a look at this kid in a game, we only have about a month and a half away to go till preseason starts on 8-8.
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Love the updates, thank you
I'm getting extremely excited for this season. Not that I think the Pats are going to make a run at the playoffs but I'm hoping the roster can come together with some solid direction, I don't want to see Maye out there at least till mid season
I just hope that their offensive line gels and they're playing with some continuity at that point they feel like Maye is ready. I'm not expecting miracles but I really do want to see how he looks with some OL protection. We just saw how bad the offense can look if they don't do their job, everyone else can't do theirs.
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Robert Kraft gave Brady a gift during his retirement ceremony...The One Ring To Rule Them All. 😎
(My pics aren't the greatest, they were taken from this twitter clip)
https://x.com/Patriots/status/1804546135857528951?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1804546135857528951|twgr^85d6342daccf536490474bddcf74edd1bb97c4a9|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/watch-tom-brady-receives-another-massive-ring-upon-induction-into-patriots-hall-of-fame/
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I watched Brady's entire speech, and also Belichick's entire speech which is on Youtube. Belichick got one heckuva ovation, as of course did Brady. Two great speeches for sure.
One "funny" thing is Brady failed to mention Bridget or Gisele.
The 10k remark about Edelman was funny as yell. LOL
That is awesome, definitely a nice gesture from Kraft
I highly doubt we will be reading about Brady Hocking his rings any time soon and now he has another
IIRC NFL players also get a ring for losing the Super Bowl/winning their conference championship too. Once he adds his NFL HOF ring that will be one hell of a ring collection, I wonder if the public will ever get to see it as a whole?
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I'm sure they are earmarked for his kids but a display at his HOF induction would be pretty cool
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/matthew-judon-landing-spots-logical-trade-destinations-as-star-pass-rusher-faces-murky-future-with-patriots/
Anytime I hear these "Cryptic Social Media" posts it just annoys me for some reason. If I was a GM I would literally just hold that against the player and stand firm on an offer less than what they want
He's 32 and coming off of a biceps injury that caused him to miss the final 13 games of last season, it should be pretty obvious to Matt & his agent that the front office is waiting to see how he recovers from that injury before signing him to a contract that pays him 10M+ a year. That they haven't traded him to this point should also be a sign that they're still in on him coming back and doing his thing again.
IIRC the only contracts that they gave out this offseason to anyone over 30 was a 1yr deal to Brissett and a short term restructure/extension for David Andrews pretty much because there's no one else on the roster that has experience doing his job.
Sounds like either Matt's up in his feels or someone around him has him feeling like he's unwanted in NE because they gave everyone else new deals but him. Due to how large his salary would be, the team is just be cautious.
edit: I wouldn't give up on him yet. If he comes back at 80-90% that he was preinjury that is still a damn good pass rusher and they do have the money to lock him in for a 2-3 more years without it really affecting their cap.
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34 more days till their first preseason game! 😎👍
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And who's counting 😂😂😂
Where's Todd with a countdown tracker when we need him. 😉
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Looks like Belichick will be a part of the Inside The NFL show this season as well as being a part of the Manningcast during MNF games.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40540907/bill-belichick-joining-nfl-upcoming-season
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They've been sitting on 40+M in cap space for an opportunity like this, make it happen. Maybe even send out Matt Judon as part of the deal.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40575505/wr-brandon-aiyuk-requests-trade-49ers-source-says
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I'd take him for the right price, he would be our #1 for this year but I don't want to see another Ju Ju Smith
Juju's peak NFL performance doesn't come close to being on Aiyuk's level. This was on twitter from a guy who covers the Pats.
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The main issue from NE's end is they'd be giving up picks and then a top of the market contract. They have the cap space and their QB over the next 4-5yrs will be on rookie money so they could afford his contract easy enough. It really comes down to does SF let him go and what would be the final cost in picks?
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IDK. I'm not down with signing a high maintenance WR right now, not saying Aiyuk is a diva but let's get the OL and our QB squared away before we start looking at WR's unless we can get upper level guys for multiple years without melting that cap money, it will go quicker than we think
These type of Alpha WRs don't really become available often and when they do you gotta pay the going rate. There's no guarantee that SF will even move him but the Pats need to take that chance if they do. Their draft history has been subpar just finding competent wideouts and if the front office doesn't take that chance now when they're sitting on 40+M in 2024 cap space and 100+M for 2025 then there's no better time to try.
Plus just like with the cost to land a high end QB, the cost to acquire top notch WRs in cap money and in trade assets will only go up with each WR1 that hits the market. Today's cost will be less than what it will be a year or two from now.
Aiyuk is 26 and heading into his prime, I'd much rather see us go after him than wideouts on the back end of their careers like Davante Adams or Stefon Diggs or someone that is a marginal WR1 at best in Calvin Ridley.
Paying a top WR salary isn't going to be an issue when literally the entire team is locked up for the foreseeable future. The only real question would be what's the cost in picks and afaik NE still owns all of their future draft picks so that shouldn't be an issue at all.
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Solid analysis
NFL hasnt made a decision yet, but someone powerful pulled some strings and the more than 8,900 charges against Boutte have been dropped
He might have a chance at a career now that Hoodie is gone
I'm curious if the NFL will do anything, but from the comments and everything else it certainly seems like they want to have him on the field. He would certainly give them something they havent had in a while if that right ankle is good.
I don't know a ton about him. but if the kid can put his legal troubles behind him I'd hope that he is at least given a chance.
Belichick didn't like the kid and he never saw the field. Like Bill didn't care if he ruined this kids career or not. There was no reason why he didn't see more playing time last year other than Bill holding the kid back.
Hes an interesting story to me legal stuff excluded. I remember him as a freshman All American at LSU who a lot of college guys thought he was going to be a first round pick. Nabers ended up coming in and taking his job as the number 1 but he would have done that to basically anyone. The ankle surgeries on the same ankle dont really matter at this point, he can either play or he cant, hes already been drafted.
Hes got some drop issues but also play making ability. I dont think hes going to be a 1 but if his off the field stuff is over and hes healthy hes got a shot of being a legit 2 or 3 that could add some play making ability
I really didnt like how Bill treated the situation either. Either say its off the field stuff or see what he can do in a throw away year
legal issues aside, why not see what he can do? its not like we are winning the big one this year anyways
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Or last year
Pats reportedly offered a 2nd rounder for Aiyuk which the 49ers turned down. Supposedly they made a second offer which was also turned down as were some offers from other teams. Aiyuk requested a trade but seems the 49ers are trying to keep the team together one more year before they have major cap and free agency issues
It sounds like he will be a distraction come training camp,
I guess I would have been ok with a 2nd rounder for him
San Fran isn't giving up Aiyuk for just a 2nd rounder, not even had it been NE's 34th pick from the 2024 draft.
These were some of the more recent trades for elite WRs:
DeAndre Hopkins to Arizona for a 2nd plus starting RB David Johnson.
Stefon Diggs to Buffalo for a 1st,5th,6th + future 4th. (Diggs was then a salary dump years later going to Houston with two late picks for a 2nd.)
Julio Jones plus a 6th to the Titans for a 2nd & 4th.
Davante Adams to the Raiders for a 1st & 2nd.
Tyreek Hill to Miami for 1st,2nd & 4th rounders plus a future 4th & 6th rounder.
AJ Brown to Philly for a 1st & 3rd.
I'd expect an Aiyuk trade package to be comparable to AJ Brown's at the very least. I used the AJ Brown trade because he got dealt going into year 4, Aiyuk is heading into year 5 and pretty much all of those other WRs were traded after year 5 or later.
The main problem is NE's 2025 1st will likely land in the top 10-12 picks maybe even top 5 again. In that case the Pats could just draft one of the top 2-3 WRs in the 2025 draft and only have to pay him rookie scale money without needing to fork over more picks in an Aiyuk trade.
If SF does trade Aiyuk to NE its likely going to be for either their 2025 1st alone (maybe with a future 5th or 6th thrown in) or a package of picks starting with their 2nd rounder plus multiple later picks in 2025 & 2026. SF will probably just hold out until they get what think is a legit package for him and I wouldn't blame them.
IMO,Aiyuk is a stud wideout in every sense and worth that 1st round pick especially for a team like NE whose WR draft history has been horrible. 81% of Aiyuk receptions in 2023 were either 1st downs or touchdowns which is an insane stat.
Even better is PFT reporting that he was looking for a contract that will pay him around 28M/yr which is less than the 30+M/yr I was expecting it might take to land him.
I'm ok with NE giving up their 2025 1st plus a future 3rd or 4th for Aiyuk. SF is trying to get back to the SB and maybe NE's 1st along with Matt Judon might entice them. He has the 11th most sacks over the past 5 seasons and that was with missing most of 2023. Judon would be a perfect fit across from Nick Bosa
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SF can keep him and let him be disgruntled
He isn't worth much more than a 2nd if he is going to be a distraction and or hold out
He actually is worth so much more than a 2nd and the only reason why that 2nd round pick alone is being talked about by the media is because that was NE's initial lowball offer. If the Pats had made a realistic offer then we wouldn't be hearing about it and the two teams would likely still be working on a deal behind the scene.
EDIT: that offer of a 2nd round pick was actually made during the draft when NE offered their 34th pick. There may have been a Pats offer since then but I haven't seen any mention of one online.
Perk, if SF decided to keep Aiyuk and trade Deebo instead would you want NE to trade for him?
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I'd be happy with either one lol
All I was saying that for SF it would be smart to try and work something out with teams before he becomes massively disgruntled and causes distractions, once teams see that the value goes down.
Or they could keep him and pay him, he is very talented but If he is pissed off and gets dumped to another team they will inherit the problem if he wants a long term big money contract
Good answer, that was a loaded question lol. Right now Aiyuk is doing the same things Deebo did back in 2022 when he wanted to get paid. This current situation mirrored that one and BA is going to get paid, the only question is by who. I doubt that he gets traded without the acquiring team agreeing to a top of the market type deal at the time if trade. Aiyuk would have to go Antonio Brown totes cray cray for SF to just dump him at the first offer.
Where NE is expected to finish with a top 10 pick again it wouldn't hurt to try offering a package based around their 2025 1st meeting certain conditions. SF would get our next 1st rounder if NE reaches 8-9 wins or they make the playoffs. If NE doesn't reach those certain parameters then SF gets some other agreed upon deal where its like a 2nd + later round pick in 2025 and a couple mid round picks the following year. Just pay the price for that elite,in his prime, "X" Wr1, he'll make life so much easier for his teammates when he forces defenses to send help his way. That's priceless in this current rendition of NFL football.
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Aiyuk showed up to camp. Not sure how smart that is on his part if they arent even making progress and seems to make a trade even less likely. According to Rapoport they havent had real talks since May
SF could always give in and sign him long term then see how their season unwinds before making a final decision to trade him next offseason. Even then, an elite WR1 under contract for at least the following three seasons would have some crazy value on the trade market. If they can win the SB maybe they keep him around longer. if they don't win the SB and rookie WR Ricky Pearsall looks good in year one maybe then the 49ers could afford trading off one of their high salaried wideouts.
If I had to choose the most likely ending here its he stays in San Fran at least for the next 2-3 seasons.
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His demands are certainly reasonable and a number of teams Pats included were willing to extend him if a trade worked out. Aside from the major cap/free agency issues next year the 49ers have a bigger issue with Trent Williams actually holding out and not showing up. I agree Aiyuk is probably going to stay there this year unless someone really overpays but the Williams thing is an interesting wrinkle in the whole thing
Seeing Vikings LT Christian Darrisaw sign his recent 4yr/113M deal probably didn't sit well with Trent Williams who has been voted First team All-Pro for three straight seasons. He's arguably one of the top 2 left tackles in football along with Penei Sewell in Detroit.
I guess one positive for teams trying to acquire Brandon Aiyuk is SF may not want to pay all three of Aiyuk, Williams and Brock Purdy in the very near future. The 49ers also have another elite WR in Deebo and they can't say the same for the QB & LT positions.
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I dont know him personally but I feel bad for Christian Barmore with his blood clots. I had a botched knee surgery that ended my career with those. Generally its 6 months of blood thinners where you obviously cant be playing football on those and not a great sign that they seemed to happen in a non surgical situation
https://www.si.com/college/tennessee/football/joe-milton-outshining-drake-maye-at-new-england-patriots-training-camp-01j44s6h1gw8
we do have a pretty good history with drafting quarterbacks in the 6th round.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I'd be psyched if these guys were a photo finish to winning the starting QB job
The better Milton is the better the situation!
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40745198/sources-49ers-open-brandon-aiyuk-trade-patriots-browns-interested
Sounds like the 49ers have agreed on the framework for an Aiyuk trade with both the Pats & Browns and now its up to those two teams to woo him with a high crapton of cash. I'm not sure how accurate all of the trade details have been but these are the three that I've seen mentioned the most:
Aiyuk to NE for their 2025 2nd, Matt Judon & Kendrick Bourne
Aiyuk to NE for a 1st & Kendrick Bourne
Aiuyk to Cleveland for a 1st & Amari Cooper
NE's picks are projected to land much higher in the draft than Cleveland's which means the Pats are likely offering their 2026 1st or a 2025 2nd. The Browns are offering the better WR in return.
Money shouldn't be an issue for Kraft and their front office when everyone of consequence on their roster is already locked up long term and they still have 40Mish of cap for 2025 and roughly 100M for 2026. They could give Aiyuk 30M a year and it won't hurt their cap at all going forward.
Going to be interesting to see who ultimately lands Aiyuk, I'd expect to see a trade happen very soon. Pittsburgh was also mentioned as a possible destination.
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Supposedly he was given permission to negotiate with DC, Pitt, Browns, and Pats. I would assume the 49ers are hoping it will be the Pats since that will likely be the highest pick, but it sounds like its completely up to him at this point
I kind of think Washington might be the front runner if theyre willing to pay up since him and Daniels have been talking