End of World War II 75th Anniversary American Eagle Silver Proof (20XF) & Gold Proof Coin (20XE)

I hope they release the silver version one day and the gold version the next day.
Getting both at the same time will be tough.

I'm in.

@jmlanzaf said:
Then you don't remember the palladium eagles

Or you don't realize thats irrelevant and doesn't apply since different series, compare like to like. Who cares about a Robinson gold piece or low mintage/ugly first spouse. Name an age with a lower mintage.

They didn't make many 1913 liberty nickels either.

@Tiggs2012 said:

@jmlanzaf said:
Then you don't remember the palladium eagles

Or you don't realize thats irrelevant and doesn't apply since different series, compare like to like. Who cares about a Robinson gold piece or low mintage/ugly first spouse. Name an age with a lower mintage.

They didn't make many 1913 liberty nickels either.

The point was that the $2000 price tag on a 15,000 mintage coin didn't scare everyone away. Far from irrelevant, it's doubly relevant since this is a lower mintage in a more highly collected series. It is unlikely that a $2500 price tag is going to scare away the competition.

Or are you (unpleasantly) suggesting that the AGE's are soooo unpopular - like the spouse coins - that it will be easy to scare away all the competition with a $2500 price tag?

And just to get the ball rolling and make sure you have the most competition possible, I'll offer $200 over Mint issue price for these making them highly flippable.

Looks as if the fever is already beginning... The pre-sales hype will determine the sellout (under a minute) and the flipping frenzy....Fasten your seatbelts....Cheers, RickO

I'll attempt to get one...not holding my breath being able to do so.

In for as many as possible...

@Kliao Sorry, I just posted about this, didn't see you already did. I just wanted to make sure everyone saw it coming! Yes, the gold version will be sold out instantly, the silver will take at least 3 minutes longer to sell out. Whoooooosh

@MilesWaits said:
A lucky few will get in and be able to buy one and a lot of people will be locked out.
The dealers are going to go ape shit on this one.

Can't even imagine the pre-sale dealer buy offers.

Lottery win for the lucky few who get them. Will be far more than 1945 ticked off Mint customers!!

@Tiggs2012 said:
o> @jmlanzaf said:

The point was that the $2000 price tag on a 15,000 mintage coin didn't scare everyone away. Far from irrelevant, it's doubly relevant since this is a lower mintage in a more highly collected series. It is unlikely that a $2500 price tag is going to scare away the competition.

Or you missed the point that demand is the ultimate arbitrator as it references supply. Guess you weren't around for 1995-w ASE's or 2008-w buffalo sets. Price elasticity matters esp. during a recession. Weren't lots of people buying buffalo 4 coin sets(proof and unc) and then, oh look, burnished gold eagle sets to boot.

Unlike the ASE, no price was listed for the AGE. Even its relation to POG at time of release is an unknown factor, that added extra fun for the buffalo's. Your mistake is thinking I wasn't around for all of the palladium releases when I was one of 30,125- to have filled out a mail order form for a 1995-w ase years before. My join date precedes yours by many years.

Do you read your own posts? Your original post said, and I QUOTE: "...hopefully not as many flippers around at the 2500+ price point"

YOUR ORIGINAL STATEMENT referenced the price point only as though (my inference) that would scare away the flippers. You made NO mention of demand. You threw that in later.

I responded, quite reasonably and logically: you must have forgotten the Palladium Eagles. That was a case where there was a near $2000 price point on a 15,000 mintage and all the flippers were in.

I'm not sure why you are being so testy about this.

And again, you keep throwing demand into this (after the fact). The demand argument works against you. Flippers stay away from LOW DEMAND. So, again, unless you think this coin has low demand - if so, please elaborate - there is nothing in either the price point or the demand to keep flippers away from this. Which is the only thing I said.

@Commencents said:

I see $200+ presales soon

Gotta be more than that. I already offered to buy at $200 over. Or are you talking about the silver?

@VanHalen said:
We'd be just under $2400 for the gold eagle proof if today's prices hold. Could easily go over $2500 too. Isn't the current lowest 1 oz AGE mintage around 20k? Any guesses on the aftermarket for these?

It would all be highly speculative. There's really nothing to compare it to.

There are very few people who do 1 oz gold eagles by date. There are exactly ZERO collectors of 1 oz gold eagles by date and privy mark.

Privy mark variations are a fairly new...er...innovation (?) for the U.S. Mint. Canada has been doing them forever as have several other Commonwealth nations. They generally don't seem to create much price premium in those markets.

There's a $2500+ price point.

Best guess is somewhere between 98% of melt and $5000. LOL

Gold AGE will price 2500+

1945 is a redic low mintage for an american eagle, almost 15% lower than the '08-w burnished plat $50 which itself is less than 1/2 the mintage of any gold eagle out there. I've heard some claims that the '99-w $10 unfinished PR dies AGE is lower than any $50 burnished AGE but I believe that to be very unlikely. The mintage alone will carry this one and the hype will sustain for several weeks but unlike other flips it shouldnt slide as severely as few will want to give up their seat at the table.

Is that an outline of Fatboy or Littleboy? I wonder which one the Mint attempted to illustrate the first bomb dropped or the second? Fascinating the Japanese didn't surrender after Little Boy, Truman had no other option, other than to drop another, named Fatboy. I say make 75 siver examples and 75 gold examples all done by a lottery selection process.