The Michael F. Hayes Barber Megathread

amwldcoin · April 18, 2019 6:58AM

Srotag · April 20, 2019 11:16AM

JeffMTampa · April 20, 2019 11:42AM

Both great looking coins, David!

Srotag · April 20, 2019 1:58PM

Thanks Jeff. Dime is Simpson 66CAC. Half is 65CAC, but several (incl MH, RIP) told me it's a 66 technically, but PCGS doesn't like "dark" coins--suggested I walk it thru. Let me know if you agree. See you in about 90 minutes!

sedulous · April 20, 2019 2:12PM

@JeffMTampa said:
Something different- in honor of the big quake 113 years ago please post a 1906 S Barber:

1906-S Barbers...

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CircOnly · April 24, 2019 8:13PM

I've been a away for a bit. Good to see you back Darrell, you vowed to stay away but you were back in no time at all.

CircOnly · April 24, 2019 8:18PM

BTW when I got on, I had 292 notifications. I'm guessing that's all the Barber posts I missed.

jedm · April 25, 2019 4:21PM

Welcome back!

ARCO · April 27, 2019 4:44PM

I have never owned a 1906-S Barber half above VF30. There are coins out there, but the eye appeal on most displeases me. I did buy my first Barber half in a long time: PCGS AU55

Goes along with my 1915 PCGS AU55

JeffMTampa · May 4, 2019 11:26AM

I've had this 1915 Half for several years, but in interest of bumping the thread I'll post it again:

I purchased the coin in a PCGS MS 62 holder thinking there was luster break on the cheek. I cracked it out and submitted it raw to PCGS; it came back in a 58 holder. At the time the coin was worth more in a 58 holder- not sure if that's still true.....

ironmanl63 · May 4, 2019 1:57PM

Just got a wicked proof like 1892 quarter.

sedulous · May 4, 2019 2:08PM

Wow

kbbpll · May 4, 2019 2:28PM

@ironmanl63 Reverse Hub I. Very nice.

ironmanl63 · May 4, 2019 2:32PM

@kbbpll said:
@ironmanl63 Reverse Hub I. Very nice.

Cool. I am not familiar with the variety's. Any significance or just a cool fact?

jedm · May 4, 2019 2:50PM

@kbbpll are all 1892 proofs type 1 reverse?

sedulous · May 4, 2019 2:50PM

@ironmanl63 said:

@kbbpll said:
@ironmanl63 Reverse Hub I. Very nice.

Cool. I am not familiar with the variety's. Any significance or just a cool fact?

Type I tends to be a little tougher than Type Ii. The quality of your quarter is not typical.

kbbpll · May 4, 2019 3:01PM

"In early 1892, it was found that the quarters dd not stack properly. To correct this, Barber made slight adjustments to both sides" - Bowers' Barber Silver Coins. I think it falls under "cool fact". I'm not aware of any price guide splitting them out. Reverse Hub II the tip of the eagle's wing covers the crossbar of E in UNITED, and the legends are slightly farther from the denticles. Bowers indicates about half as many Type I in MS65 as Type II. Many were saved as souvenirs of first year of issue.

ironmanl63 · May 4, 2019 5:31PM

The coin is actually graded MS66+. It looks like a full cameo proof. Thanks for the info.

kbbpll · May 4, 2019 6:49PM

@jedm said:
@kbbpll are all 1892 proofs type 1 reverse?

Wow, what a great question. A short look around Heritage says that 1892 25c Proofs come in both Rev I and Rev II. Bowers says "100 estimated" for Type I, and "of the 1,245 Proofs struck this year, the vast majority have the Type II reverse".

The first Type I one I found on Heritage is NGC MS67* PL. @ironmanl63 apparently has PL too. Why would Philadelphia make proof-like? Enlisted the proof dies for business strikes? I find this interesting because 1901 dime proofs also have a mix of two reverse types.

sedulous · May 4, 2019 9:47PM

@kbbpll said:
"In early 1892, it was found that the quarters dd not stack properly. To correct this, Barber made slight adjustments to both sides" - Bowers' Barber Silver Coins. I think it falls under "cool fact". I'm not aware of any price guide splitting them out. Reverse Hub II the tip of the eagle's wing covers the crossbar of E in UNITED, and the legends are slightly farther from the denticles. Bowers indicates about half as many Type I in MS65 as Type II. Many were saved as souvenirs of first year of issue.

My pup (pick up point) is the first star in the reverse field to the viewer's left. It is either tilted or it's not for the prime Ty 1 and Ty 2 differences... to me, the star is much easier to distinguish quickly regarding the differences between both 1892 reverse types.

kbbpll · May 4, 2019 10:16PM

@sedulous I never would have noticed the star orientation. So much "secret" knowledge in coins. Thanks!

DIMEMAN · May 5, 2019 8:30AM

@kbbpll said:
@sedulous I never would have noticed the star orientation. So much "secret" knowledge in coins. Thanks!

I didn't know about the Star either. All I knew about was the wing and E.

barberkeys · May 10, 2019 3:17PM

It's been a while since I added a barber qtr to my collection (not from lack of looking tho). It's raw and probably will go to our hosts in a month or so. Any opinions on what it'll come back?

ironmanl63 · May 10, 2019 3:20PM

Another PL Barber Quarter.

amwldcoin · May 10, 2019 3:22PM

VF30 because PCGS doesn't like rich toning. I give it a 35!

@barberkeys said:
It's been a while since I added a barber qtr to my collection (not from lack of looking tho). It's raw and probably will go to our hosts in a month or so. Any opinions on what it'll come back?

JeffMTampa · May 10, 2019 4:45PM

Vern- nice coin; original. I’ll guess 40.

Redglobe · May 10, 2019 4:51PM

@barberkeys said:
It's been a while since I added a barber qtr to my collection (not from lack of looking tho). It's raw and probably will go to our hosts in a month or so. Any opinions on what it'll come back?

Semi-key date with that look....VF 35

Nice coin

sedulous · May 11, 2019 3:35AM

@barberkeys said:
It's been a while since I added a barber qtr to my collection (not from lack of looking tho). It's raw and probably will go to our hosts in a month or so. Any opinions on what it'll come back?

Vern, this thread had a discussion before about how rare (or even if they exist) a "clear" S quarter for 1914 San Francisco is. Some disagreed that there even was one... well!

Regarding the quarter's grade... I would compare it, perhaps to this '14-S CAC'd XF40...

Notice the much more common "mushy" S on this coin.

Comparing both my coin and your raw piece, yours looks like it would go about VF35 to me. The reverse looks similar like it might be somewhat similar to the XF40.

No Headlights · May 11, 2019 7:53AM

Nice coin Vern
I would guess 35

Labelman87 · May 11, 2019 4:29PM

Hi Vern, In today's world, despite the part worn out lower band (the new VF30), IMO the reverse will move the grade to a VF35. Again, in today's grading environment.

barberkeys · May 12, 2019 6:19PM

Thanks for the opinions gentlemen, and Tim, how about that unusual clear S. I'm sure it'll get submitted in a month or so. Here's one that came from Doug last year:

I'm guessing the raw one will come back 35.

DIMEMAN · May 12, 2019 6:27PM

@barberkeys said:
It's been a while since I added a barber qtr to my collection (not from lack of looking tho). It's raw and probably will go to our hosts in a month or so. Any opinions on what it'll come back?

Nice 14-S....a very tuff date. It should go 34-40 IMHO.

sedulous · May 18, 2019 8:17AM

1897-S quarter..... Feigenbaum's comments: "My favorite date. Where have they all gone? This coin is only available in AG to VG condition. The moment a Fine or better specimen comes on the market - even with problems - it is sold. A few years ago this date was priced little more than common in gem condition. Not anymore! Today, with common date gem quarters at $1,150 wholesale, the 1897-S is $5,200 and worth every penny. For the well-heeled, MS64 specimens are sometimes available. They have even come down in price since the recent recession. This is the last in the series to have a mintmark in the far right position. Also, the last of the rectangular style "S" mintmarks. All future "S" mintmarks are well rounded."

JeffMTampa · May 18, 2019 9:03AM

My ‘97 S Quarter found in the wild. Perhaps not beautiful, but very original.

scodal · May 18, 2019 11:22AM

Overall it has been a slow couple of months for new pick-ups, but I recently came across this 05-O in PC55. Not the strongest strike on it but she is very pretty in hand, and the addition complements the other 05s in the set well.

Srotag · May 20, 2019 2:06PM

First is MS and second is circ, but both show the placement and shape of the mm very well. I have many Barber 25c, and while I knew about the change in mm placement, I didn't realize the different shapes of the mm's. Thanks, Sedulous for enlightening.

sedulous · May 21, 2019 3:24PM

Hey, What do you all think about this '96-P quarter in ANACS XF40 Small Holder?

My thoughts are that it has been in-holder for many years as a plus. Negative might be the blotchy-like toning (or) some might like the look of originality?. What do you think?

Tim

amwldcoin · May 21, 2019 3:39PM

From those pictures I would pass. Doesn't have the look I like at all. From the look in those pisctures it's certainly not an original coin.

@sedulous said:
Hey, What do you all think about this '96-P quarter in ANACS XF40 Small Holder?

My thoughts are that it has been in-holder for many years as a plus. Negative might be the blotchy-like toning (or) some might like the look of originality?. What do you think?

Tim

barberkeys · May 22, 2019 1:59PM

srotag - Your 97-S in MS is a beauty.

Tim - I think your 96-P is cleaned.

Pics for this PM, newp into Elmo's collection, PC PRF-65:

paesan · May 25, 2019 9:22AM

Hi guys! I'm back!! Hope everybody is doing well. Going to catch up on things today and start posting a few coins.
-Paesan

amwldcoin · May 25, 2019 9:48AM

Welcome back and hope you had fun!

@paesan said:
Hi guys! I'm back!! Hope everybody is doing well. Going to catch up on things today and start posting a few coins.
-Paesan

paesan · May 25, 2019 9:50AM

Srotag-I like your mint state 97-S quarter too. Here's my 97-S with a centered mint mark.
Pix courtesy Barber Keys.
Paesan

paesan · May 25, 2019 9:52AM

And one in my album.

paesan · May 25, 2019 11:03AM

Tim, I agree that the 1896 quarter looks cleaned. Here's a spare 1896 PC 40. Very nice in hand, but the pix are a bit dark to see. (Courtesy Barber Keys)
-Paesan

barberkeys · May 28, 2019 7:36PM

Paesan - Good to see you here.

Pics for this PM, newp into Paesan's Stash, PC61, is the S/S:

Labelman87 · May 29, 2019 11:32AM

...Had to get the dust off and pull this out (it been here before, somewhere between 50 to 75 pages ago!)
PC64 S/S

I couldn't get the magnifier to work but if you look at the mm closely.....

Treashunt · May 29, 2019 11:40AM

@Labelman87 said:
...Had to get the dust off and pull this out (it been here before, somewhere between 50 to 75 pages ago!)
PC64 S/S

I couldn't get the magnifier to work but if you look at the mm closely.....

nice RPM

sedulous · May 29, 2019 12:06PM

Nice color Craig, thanks (again) for sharing!

scodal · May 29, 2019 8:43PM

@Labelman87 said:
...Had to get the dust off and pull this out (it been here before, somewhere between 50 to 75 pages ago!)
PC64 S/S

Some things bear repeating. Wow! That's a gorgeous quarter.

barberkeys · June 1, 2019 8:28PM

Pics for this PM, newp into Paesan's Stash, PC55:

The Michael F. Hayes Barber Megathread

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