Best forum quotes and terms, condensed

Aspie_Rocco · October 11, 2018 12:11PM

There is some golden phrasing around here. For posterity I will record some here. Stuff that rings true as a silver half, is insightful and succinct, or comical.

“Observable Reality “
Regarding varieties and errors, @FredWeinberg

“Elevation Chromatics”
Regarding toning and multiple layers of color on devices, @WingedLiberty1957

@messydesk said:
Nothing that a collector finds interesting and enjoyable is a complete waste of time or money. It's pretty cool...

Regarding unique laminations, but is a sentiment applicable to many facets of numismatics.

@Namvet69 said:
...As a new collector, time well spent is to use the Google and read about mint errors and other kinds of damage...Peace Roy

Regarding the perpetual question “Is this... mint error,rpm,ddo,ddr, a coin?” In threads authored by new posters (or trolls)

@lkeigwin said:

While I'm at it I am in strong agreement with @Insider2 who famously said "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Well, actually he said "please explain why you disagree, don't just hit the god-damned button."
Lance.

Regarding the absurd disagree feature on posts and how it does nothing but subtract integrity from members profiles and allows members to abuse the feature by the spam-harass-pestering of other members.

@TommyType
“Easily distracted Type Collector”
Signature

@lordmarcovan
“Circulation cameo”
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/542501/show-us-your-circulation-cameos-circcam/p1

@thisistheshow
“Circulation Cameo”
Regarding the attractive dark and light contrast found of old circulated coin, particularly silver.

@JBK said:
PLD. Parking Lot Damage.

Regarding...

@OldEastside said:
Standard Answer when asked what is this worth or what should I pay

Steve

@Outhaul

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1010210/a-holiday-post-resurrected-from-2003-enjoy-and-reflect#latest

1630Boston · October 11, 2018 12:58PM

Great post, thanks

Swampboy · October 11, 2018 1:44PM

"Every day someone will die, a safe deposit box will be opened and the hobby will start all over again for some young person who has no clue what numismatics is" ... Joe, @TwoSides2aCoin

ChangeInHistory · October 11, 2018 8:30PM

"If the grade does not fit, you must resubmit." - MadMarty

Owen1793 · October 11, 2018 8:50PM

"Is this (insert generic wheat cent here) an ultra rare DDO?" - Most people with less than 20 post count

ricko · October 12, 2018 5:42AM

"Fresh meat"......The comment Russ always made when greeting new members. Cheers, RickO

BuffaloIronTail · October 12, 2018 6:16AM

@ricko said:
"Fresh meat"......The comment Russ always made when greeting new members. Cheers, RickO

I remember that one, Ricko.

He might have even called me that when I started.

Pete

Aspie_Rocco · October 12, 2018 1:01PM

@OKCC said:

ElKevvo · October 12, 2018 1:06PM

@Aspie_Rocco said:

@OKCC said:

That is really funny! 'Now with even blurrier photos' LOL! Thanks for posting that, made my day!

K

Kkathyl · October 12, 2018 1:16PM

Look forward to more wit

messydesk · October 12, 2018 1:22PM

If I have made any memorable quotes, I'll count on others to remember them.

messydesk · October 12, 2018 1:28PM

@Aspie_Rocco said:

@OKCC said:

Don't forget the companion book, From Asphalt to Zebra Stripe Paint: Signatures of Damage from the Top 100 Popular Parking Lot Building Materials as Seen on Coins

Catbert · October 12, 2018 1:41PM

Ivonna buy this book. Ver can I find?

bolivarshagnasty · October 12, 2018 2:38PM

I think it was Homerunhall who said............... "There is no Santa Claus in numismatics."

Aspie_Rocco · October 12, 2018 10:00PM

One of my top 10 favorites here, a Nickel guy, @crazyhounddog said

Regarding a large group of breathtaking color toned Buffalo nickel eye candy. He will be missed. I hope he can return soon.

@BryceM said:
I’m hoping it’s just a short time-out for most of those. The majority of them are great contributors here. Sad that a troll can stir up so much trouble. Ignoring trolls is the logical course of action. They feed on drama.

@3keepSECRETif2rDEAD said:
...looks like the membership took a serious hit today...this place is a privilege and not a right...sometimes the best post is a no post...pour outta little liquor for the good ones gone and move forward with the hustle

Swampboy · October 12, 2018 11:54PM

How about a few siglines from out of the Forum archives.

Apologies that I can't attribute them all from memory tonight.
Here goes......

Swampboy's Top Ten PCGS Forum Siglines

Ten "There are no Stupid Questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots." Heywood sigline

Nine "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle

Eight "Eagles may soar but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines."

Seven "The beatings will continue until morale improves." DeusExMachina sigline

Six "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." - General George Patton Jr

Five "Consciousness: that annoying time between naps."

Four "How could this happen? I was so careful. I picked the wrong play, the wrong director, the wrong cast. Where did I go right?" - Max Bialystock

Three "When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary." Thomas Paine

Two "Alright! Who removed the cork from my lunch?" - W.C. Fields

And finally, my pick for the #1 Forum sigline.......

One “When you don't know what you're talking about, it's hard to know when you're finished.” - Tommy Smothers rooksmith sigline

Aspie_Rocco · October 16, 2018 1:42PM

@Tibor said:
Sun tan= NT
Tanning bed=AT

Regarding coin tattoos, it is a thing.

“Tap it”

@airplanenut said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-br7JKuaZHQ

Regarding how to correct a Coins rotation within a holder

@BillDugan1959 said:
Realistically, you can always look at your total coins expenditure as a percentage of your net worth.

So long as your "total coins" number doesn't exceed 10% of your personal net worth, and you don't have a lot of short-term debts, then you shouldn't have to worry about what you do, coin-wise.

Do what makes you happy.

Regarding collecting

lablover · October 16, 2018 2:02PM

"if there are no dog's in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went" Will Rogers

Namvet69 · October 16, 2018 4:00PM

Well that was really nice. Thanks Aspie_Rocco for paying attention and being you. Peace Roy

Tibor · October 16, 2018 10:41PM

This quote that follows is in the sig. line of @Lakesammman
and it is attributed @baccaruda 12/03

"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something
costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity."

For me, this quote is one that encompasses most if not all of us
on this forum. When bidding or outright purchasing a coin, this
quote is in the back of my mind.

My previous statement about suntan/tanning bed was posted in a
recently resurrected thread about tattoos (body art).

Cladiator · October 17, 2018 12:50AM

TradeDollarNut had a doozy of a line back in the open forum days but I can't for the life of me remember it any more. Those times seem like a life time ago now.

Moldnut · October 17, 2018 5:26AM

I liked this one from RYK
“Never fight a major battle over a minor issue “

BTW, those words could have saved a few good forum members last weekend too.

Aspie_Rocco · October 18, 2018 2:02PM

@Coinstartled said:
This thread can only get better...

@jtlee321 said:
Very nice, I'd call it a 65.

And.....

@ricko said:
Gold sticker granted @asheland ... Very nice WLH....Cheers, RickO

A great thread on counterfeit indicators

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1010462/1927-s-counterfeit-standing-liberty-quarters#latest

ctf_error_coins · October 18, 2018 2:08PM

Jon said something about how he never gambles in a casino, but will "gamble" on a coin.

I am a poker player (gambler) and a coin dealer so I really liked that one. I don't think I have gone to a casino since I read that. I have gambled on numerous coins since then, however.

Hallco · October 18, 2018 2:35PM

"Hi Carol" is a good one...but most here probably don't know that reference!

Paradisefound · October 18, 2018 6:03PM

This made me LOL by @1630Boston

"The Bow Tie Fantastic"

CoinBlog · October 18, 2018 9:06PM

Don't know who exactly originated these. But 2 of my favorite

"Ownership adds a grade."

"Pump in dump" someone once said this about a new limited coin release, when dealers were paying premiums.

Paradisefound · October 18, 2018 9:13PM

Welcome to the CU family @CoinBlog ..... looks like you are doing some good readings already

CoinBlog · October 18, 2018 9:42PM

Thanks Paradisefound!

BlindedByEgo · October 18, 2018 10:03PM

Numismatic afterbirth (leftover mess after the excitement is over)
-Lakesammman

dlmtorts · October 19, 2018 4:20AM

Everyone here will recognize this close to every post. “Cheers”.

CyndieChildress · October 19, 2018 6:26AM

@ChangeInHistory said:
"If the grade does not fit, you must resubmit." - MadMarty

Ha ha ~ Love it .!.!

Aspie_Rocco · October 23, 2018 4:31PM

@BuffaloIronTail said:
I've seen 'em come and seen 'em go. I've seen it ebb and seen 'em flow.

What I'm trying to say is....................I don't know.

Oh well.

Pete

@Washingtoniana said:
For what it's worth, for me, the most enjoyable part of coin collecting is reading the snippy, slappy drama between rich old guys ripping on each others' treasures. It's a selling point, something to encourage, something that would appeal to the masses, boost stock price, ensure business viability for another century. Imagine a TMZ-like app for coin smack talk.

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1007740/movies-you-would-have-gone-to-the-theater-to-see-had-they-been-about-coins/p2

From a great thread on fantasy coin movies

@Coinstartled said:
Planchet of the Apes.
CAC to the Future.
Brockagework orange

@JeffersonFrog said:
Raging Bullion

@JeffersonFrog said:
Chinatone, starring Jack Nickelson

@deefree49 said:
Forbidden Planchet
Cent of a woman

@thisistheshow said:
Die Hard with Striations

@sparky64 said:
The Empire Strikes Coins.

@Smudge said:
Ferris Bueller's Day Off Center.

@ms70 said:
Hard Die

@DNADave said:
Pixar's "Finding Cameo"

@yosclimber said:
For a Few Half Dollars More
Grade 'Em High
Two Mules for Sister Sac'a
Dirty Gold Harry
Play MS-60 for Me
American ebay Sniper

@yosclimber you are clever! Love the Eastwood theme

@OldEastside said:
Cud

Steve

@dadams said:
"Mr. Burdette Goes to Washington"

@coinpro76 said:
C.E.N.T. The Extra-Redcentroll

Aspie_Rocco · October 24, 2018 8:17PM

@dlmtorts said:
Everyone here will recognize this close to every post. “Cheers”.

I always hear this when @ricko posts and think of here. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lQpL5ZLQHyw

I love this show.

@1630Boston is like Sam

I read this next quote in a thread about an award medal and was thoroughly impressed with the consideration and human decency of the act described. Kudos

@chumley said:
I was a runner in my early years got quite a collection of trophys and medals...upon retiring my spikes,I donated all that stuff to the special oylmpics...just replace any nameplates and good to go

@btcollects said:
I've long been a proponent of dance-offs to resolve disputes like this

Aspie_Rocco · November 1, 2018 12:33PM

@Onastone said:
In Pie We Crust

Regarding coin pie crimpers

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/998099/pie-crimpers-made-with-coins-an-obsession#latest

@TommyType said:
Numismatic Sin: Failure to go to a weekend coin show that is within your normal daily commute.

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1008233/just-for-fun-define-a-numismatic-sin#latest

@No Headlights said:
The manufacture of headlights🙂

Regarding Numismatic Sins and dipping away original color.

@HeatherBoyd said:
Hello all,

I am happy to say I was able to find a way to restore the content of both @RogerB and @PerryHall. To reiterate, the deletion was a misstep and is NOT part of the normal banning process.

Both accounts have also been unbanned.

Happy Sunday

Regarding Great News!

@Soldi said:
It's used due to a brain freeze when I couldn't spell Solidus or a plural form.
Besides they shot down "nice butt" which I know I have, I mean every time I meet a group of people as I walk away I hear them say "what an arse!" so that proves it.

Regarding the selection of a username.

Aspie_Rocco · November 4, 2018 9:11AM

@BillJones said:
"Mind your business" on the Fugio Cents did not have the modern meaning. The phrase, which came from Benjamin Franklin, met “work hard at your business or occupation and succeed.”

The Fugio Cents were struck on a device called a drop press. As the name implies, it is a press when the striking die is raised above the anvil die and dropped on the planchet. If you would like to see a drop press in action, go to the Universal Orlando theme park and check out one of the shops in the Islands of Adventure, Atlantis area. If you are walking toward the Harry Potter area there is a side street on the right where a token maker strikes pieces to order with a number of different dies. He is using a drop press.

Here are my two Fugio Cents. This first one is Newman variety 8-X, which was part of the Bank of New York hoard. There may have been several thousand Mint State coins in this group when it began as apart of the assets of the Bank of New York. Over the years, the bank gave them out to favored customers. By the time collectors got a chance to run through it in the late 1940s, there were about 1,200 coins left. This coin is a Mint State piece with the usual planchet fissures.

Here is my second piece, the more common of the two Club Rays variety pieces. This coin is quite a bit scarcer than the previous one. NGC graded this one VF-35 years ago.

A thread on Thomas Paine
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/414814/a-thomas-paine-poltical-token#latest

Aspie_Rocco · November 12, 2018 3:13PM

Some informative posts

Collected topics authored by @RogerB
https://forums.collectors.com/profile/discussions/RogerB

1921 peace dollar https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1011997/something-to-help-1921-peace-dollar-collectors#latest

Coin quizzes from @Insider2

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1008670/micro-numismatics-quiz-6-answered#latest

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1008640/fun-micro-numismatics-quiz-5-answered#latest

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1008611/numismatic-fun-quiz-4-this-is-much-harder#latest

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1008837/micro-numismatic-quiz-7-answered#latest

1937 D 3 1/2 leg diagnostic
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1007887/frequently-seen-die-markers-on-authentic-1937-d-3-leggers#latest

@Numismaticcrimeinfo said:
The Numismatic Crime Information Center (NCIC) was established in 1986 to coordinate and collaborate initiatives between law enforcement and the numismatic community in “Targeting Numismatic Crimes Around the World”. NCIC is devoted exclusively to assist law enforcement and victims during the investigation of numismatic crimes and to provide the necessary tools and resources to effectively investigate the complex challenges encountered during these types of investigations.

NCIC provides technical assistance to law enforcement and focuses on the identification, apprehension and prosecution of individual suspects and Organized Crime Groups who target and prey on the numismatic community.

Help NCIC continue to better serve the numismatic and law enforcement community. NCIC maintains a website, crime database, conducts accredited law enforcement training programs and issues crime alert bulletins to over 8,000 members. The bulletins provide a valuable networking capability and keeps law enforcement and the numismatic community informed of on-going criminal activity and conduct.

Your financial support will allow NCIC to continue providing these services at no cost to law enforcement and the numismatic community. Tax deductible donations can be sent to NCIC P.O. Box 14080 Arlington, Texas 76094 or via PayPal at www.numismaticcrimes.org.

The ultimate goal is to better equip law enforcement and the numismatic community with knowledge and information on these crimes that leave victims devastated, emotionally traumatized and with large financial losses.

Thank you for your support and participation.

Sincerely

Doug Davis
Founder/President
Numismatic Crime Information Center

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1011298/numismatic-crime-information-center#latest

An informative article on Civil War medals from @Zoins
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1011339/a-civil-war-generals-gold-medal-history-in-your-hands#latest

Cannon rice and silver discs, US Navy, US Mint by @RogerB
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1011296/quaker-puffed-rice-is-not-the-only-thing-shot-from-cannon#latest

Aspie_Rocco · November 25, 2018 11:46AM

@messydesk said:

@Aspie_Rocco said:

@OKCC said:

Don't forget the companion book, From Asphalt to Zebra Stripe Paint: Signatures of Damage from the Top 100 Popular Parking Lot Building Materials as Seen on Coins

@mannie gray said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
May I make a suggestion, look for errors in Brand new rolls of coins, you will find them.

Looking for errors in circulation seems to be confusing you.

Start with brand new coins and look for the different die states and die traits. You will learn a lot.

This is good advice.
Learn what a "new" coin look like.
Then compare it to your example above.
----- Your coin is corroded
----- Your coin has beat up rims
----- Your coin is scratched

A crude example would be this: You see a smashed up car on the side of the road. You ask yourself "Was it made this way or did this happen after it left the assembly line?"
The coins you have been posting are obviously "crashed cars".

Look through a loupe and learn to tell the difference between displaced metal (a scratch) and a raised line (die scratch or gouge, This is a critical difference.
Take the time you are currently using to photograph damaged coins and learn about the minting process...and ask yourself "Could this have happened at the mint?' or "Did this happen after the coin has entered commerce?"

Regarding aimless error coin searching in spare change and circulating coins

@mannie gray A crude example would be this: You see a smashed up car on the side of the road. You ask yourself "Was it made this way or did this happen after it left the assembly line?"
The coins you have been posting are obviously "crashed cars".

Best comparison for this subject I have seen to date!

@giantsfan20 posted a great link
In this thread https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1006503/for-those-who-think-you-have-doubled-die-read-the-link-posted-it-explains-it-in-detail-and-pictur#latest

About this
http://conecaonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/StrikeDoublingFlyer-1.pdf

BlindedByEgo · November 25, 2018 12:20PM

Smudge · November 25, 2018 3:04PM

@CoinBlog said:
Don't know who exactly originated these. But 2 of my favorite

"Ownership adds a grade."

"Pump in dump" someone once said this about a new limited coin release, when dealers were paying premiums.

That's a point. Not a grade.

lordmarcovan · November 25, 2018 5:06PM

@thisistheshow
“Circulation Cameo”
Regarding the attractive dark and light contrast found of old circulated coin, particularly silver.

Actually, that one's mine.

2006 thread:

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/542501/show-us-your-circulation-cameos-circcam/p1

kaz · November 25, 2018 8:13PM

Years ago, I recall that a forum member submitted a group of wildly toned Washies for grading; most were rejected as QT. He posted his lamentation here, wondering if submitting the group was wise or if he should have dribbled them in one or 2 at a time.
To which Saintguru posted (iirc): Too many clowns in the Volkswagen.
I still chuckle about that one.

Aspie_Rocco · November 25, 2018 11:10PM

@Insider2 said:

Welcome to CU. Here is a joke that was played on me..."Can you hold the coins closer to the computer screen. It is hard to tell what you have without an image."

@Insider2 said:

This is one of the best illustrations on the Internet. I don't know who to credit. 99% of the time the diagnostic under the arm is all that is needed.

On surface vs strike

@Baley said:
Primarily collecting 200+ year old coins in grades like Fine, I look for wholesome coins with a balance of honest qualities as well as scarcity in any grade. Actually prefer a coin that did its duty in commerce and had thousands of anonymous owners and still survived in pleasing condition.

For newer, common coins easy to find nice, coins must have both full strike and outstanding surfaces. Either way, coin must elicit a Wow!

giantsfan20 · November 25, 2018 11:39PM

My favorite courtesy of MS @Fee316 "I am not here to lose brain cells" sorry if misquoted

She of that infamous SMS cent that got **1 k views.

Outhaul · November 26, 2018 7:50AM

@dlmtorts said:
Everyone here will recognize this close to every post. “Cheers”.

I think I've seen that one.

Cheers

Bob

OKCC · November 26, 2018 10:54AM

@Catbert said:
Ivonna buy this book. Ver can I find?

Perhaps Ivonna needs a ghost writer first to fill in the pages. Any takers?

Aspie_Rocco · December 10, 2018 5:59PM

@PCGSCSManager said:

@crazyhounddog said:
Although this safe is rated up to 2000 degrees I have my problems. All of these separate boxes came out in one group, along with my Kimber.

Hi Joe,

First, everyone at PCGS would like to extend our deepest sympathies for the loss of your home and possessions, we along with all of the forum users are glad to have you on the boards and we are thankful you and your family made it out ok.

I grew up in and around Paradise and can't believe how many houses and businesses were lost, including The Honeyrun Bridge that I remember seeing almost every other weekend. My family was stuck in Paradise/Magalia and my sister sent me videos of them barely making it out 20 minutes after the evacuation was called but luckily they made it out and were fortunate enough to have their house in Magalia saved.

I, along with I'm sure many others, was able to witness the caring and thoughtfulness of everyone in Northern California and across the country and world with the #buttestrong and #paradisestrong.

We'd like to work with you as much as we can to get as many of your coins back in holders as possible.

Within the next day or so you will be receiving an email from our team with information on how to get everything to PCGS to have it reviewed and potentially reholdered.

We will do our best to get everything back into PCGS holders but we will need to take a look at everything in its raw form. We won't be able to guarantee every coin will be put back into a PCGS holder with the same grade, or in a PCGS holder at all but we will use the resources available to us to restore and holder as many of your coins as possible at no cost to you.

We understand completely that this will not bring back everything else you have lost but we hope that this will help you get a little closer to feeling like life is back to normal.

Should you have any questions, feel free to reach out to me directly at dtalk@collectors.com

BAJJERFAN · December 10, 2018 6:23PM

@bolivarshagnasty said:
I think it was Homerunhall who said............... "There is no Santa Claus in numismatics."

He also said that ownership adds a point and hold that coin closer to the phone so I can see it better. And that color adds a little, but forgives a lot.

Kudbegud · December 10, 2018 6:33PM

I assembled this list for my own reference. Hope you find it helpful. Don't know why I didn't see this thread sooner.

Hemispherical · December 10, 2018 6:41PM

Check the Test forum @WoodenJefferson has a list, too.

Aspie_Rocco · December 21, 2018 5:41PM

@asheland said:

A Humorous thread by @jonathanb about packaging materials https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1010988/strangest-packing-materials#latest

@Zoins said:

@Realone said:
What is the definition of a "so0called dollar"?

I'm not sure there's an official definition since the term was coined by Thomas Elder and he didn't provide one. He used the term to refer to a medal from the 1904 Louisiana Purchase Exposition, aka St. Louis World's Fair. People generally use the definition mentioned in the first edition of the reference published by Charles V. Kappen and Harold E. Hibler about 50 years later, but the authors noted they limited their work due to effort and also made many exceptions. The pieces in the reference are assigned a "HK" number and those are generally acknowledged as So-Called Dollars. The pieces which fit the definition that haven't been cataloged, generally known as "Unlisted So-Called Dollars". Due to limited resources, the H&K numbers aren't being added to aggressively right now, though the H&K reference copyright owners and NGC are doing so when they can. Jeff Shevlin and Bill Hyder are cataloging more pieces with their own SH numbers and published a reference this year.

Here's the definition in the H&K first edition:

This present work is restricted to medals of an exposition, commemorative, monetary and kindred nature. ...From the beginning, however, it was necessary to establish the following specific limitations in order to contain our efforts within a manageable perimeter:

United States only.

Minimum diameter - Size 21 (1-5/16 inch or 33mm).

Maximum diameter - Size 28 (1-3/4 inch or 45mm); but silver Bryan Dollars are listed.

No holed or looped material unless struck plain also. Our Nos. 1 to HK-3 are the sole exceptions.

No plastic, fiber or similar material unless issued also in one or more metals.

No purely presidential or political medals.

No school, college or athletic medals; no coin club or U.S. Armed Forces medals.

No calendar or store cards; no trade tokens or emergency money.

The piece you posted about a while back, is considered a So-Called Dollar and listed as "HK-281" in the Hibler & Kappen reference:

Best forum quotes and terms, condensed

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