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  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - Congratulations on being nominated for virtual album of the year.

    Also, congratulations to Joe W for his nomination as well. It's great that two barber collections are recognized. IMO, it attests to the beauty and desirability of barber coinage collections.

    Mike - Good to see that you acquired your type 1 92-S.

    Craig - You are more than holding your own when it comes to "hauling in the gold". I look forward to seeing pics of your 07-S in 53.

    Yorkshireman - How about AU halves that look like the one below?

    Pics for this AM, newp into Jim's collection, PC53:

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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like that minus grade idea. That's hilarious! Imagine a set of 58 minuses, complete with dips, dings, scratches and hairlines! Lord knows I've owned my fair share. Hilarious!
    More coins, less government.
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ...and then we could start sending our minus coins to CAC for seal of negative approval for the bottom 10% on the eye appeal scale. Maybe some drab color bean like lifeless grey or ca-ca brown. Then again, it would be worth as much as a green bean. After all, CAC spelled backwards is still CAC.
    More coins, less government.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    LOL - that's choice.

    I decided to make an offer on this non CAC AU 53 as I have a CAC XF 45 - The offer was accepted.

    The new 53 isn't CAC [ yet ] .... and I am on the fence on it - I like the immediate eye
    appeal...but under close scrutiny - I may be disappointed in hand - Every time I buy
    in haste, I repent in leisure !


    So... what do you think ?



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    Here's my 45:
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    EDIT: Sold to a friend for his sons' set.
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff/Paesan - IMHO, the minus grade already exists, it's called a coin in an NGC holder.

    Mike - Well since you asked, your 05-S newp has been dipped a few too many times for my tastes. But that doesn't mean it won't CAC.

    Pics for this AM, a recent find in the Stash, PC55:

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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Vern, Brilliant!
    More coins, less government.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks, Vern. You have dismissed my main objection.
    I feared it had been dipped once too often. I'll wait for
    it to come next week before I make any judgements.

    I hardly - if ever - return a certified coin - especially in
    a PCGS Secure Plus holder....guess there's always a first time.

    Jeff's the guy on buying raw and NGC certified coins and deciding
    if they will pass at PCGS or not.

    I also like your description of a coin in a minus grade - it's in
    an NGC holder ... I have seen a number of coins I thought were
    far overgraded in their holders. Many more so, than with PCGS.
    What I like about CAC is that there are another set of trained eyes
    and they have no axe to grind. Most collectors feel that they don't
    need a fourth opinion ( i.e.: CAC ) as they can grade. I like CAC for
    more a financial reason, simply, the CAC coins sell for more than non
    CAC coins. I'm getting closer to selling than keeping long term.

    I wish it were the other way around....image

    Edit to add: I really like Paesan's 1895 Quarter in 55.... Gold CAC material there.
    It looks like a solid 58.
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike - I agree with you that the benefit of CAC is in receiving more at time of sale. The market has confirmed that time and again.

    Pics for this AM, newp into Jim's collection, PC45+:

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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pics for this AM, perfect VF/XF look IMO, from the 100% Swede collection, PC35:

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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pics for this AM, from Paesan's Stash, PC55:

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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I haven't posted anything recently. Here's a Barber Half I haven't posted before, a colorful 1908 PC AU58:


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    I purchase this one raw at FUN in 2011; it's the oldest member of my Everyman Barber Half Team! It looks like MFH got out his crayons on it.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Jeff...Me ?? Really ??

    That coin needs an acetone bath -
    then maybe a month in the hot FLA Sun !!

    My most colorful coin - a duplicate - 1899 AU 58

    courtesy of Pony Express / Americana Rare Coins...

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    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: MFH

    Jeff...Me ?? Really ??

    That coin needs an acetone bath -
    then maybe a month in the hot FLA Sun !!


    I bought the coin from Glenn H. at FUN in 2011 and you were sitting at his table! I'm quite certain I saw you scribbling all over the coin with Crayols's as I was walking up.


    It's certainly far from the prettiest coin in my set; for me it's #72 of 73. It needs someting, but it will need to be done by someone else when I part with it.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    54 day turn around time at our host...and counting!
    More coins, less government.
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: paesan
    54 day turn around time at our host...and counting!


    Fo what? An Economy submission of US coins?


    I've had an Economy submission at our hosts that was logged in on May 3; I was hoping to see the results this week..... image

    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - I like the original haze and gunk of the oldest member of your team. It's good that everyone doesn't like the same thing.

    Mike - That's one colorful reverse. How come so little color on the obv? Especially around the rims.

    Paesan - Maybe they're super busy.

    Pics for this AM, tough date from the 100% Swede collection, PC55:

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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 15th. Five crossovers.
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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: paesan
    April 15th. Five crossovers.


    That's crazy. Even if you deduct week end days, show days, travelling to show days,
    they should have been done a month ago. The $12.00 difference between Economy
    and a Regular submission can be worth the wait - but 54 days ?!!

    I wonder if it'd be faster if they were submitted raw vs: Cross Over. Just a thought.
    Good luck on the cross.


    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's probably because my coins are so awesome that they want to keep them extra long to stare at them.
    More coins, less government.
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: paesan
    It's probably because my coins are so awesome that they want to keep them extra long to stare at them.

    We're they submitted in Kryptonite holders? That could present a problem.


    I was also thinking your coins might be so bright and shiny that they blinded the graders, but then I remembered the look you like......image

    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe if I had some name recognition like MFH, I'd get quicker results!????
    More coins, less government.
  • All SwedeAll Swede Posts: 85 ✭✭
    Vern and Paesan,



    Just thought I would let you guys know that I finally joined the thread.

    I'm looking forward to the dialogue and images of terrific coins.



    Milo (100% Swede)
    Milo

    *****

    What?!?! No Barber quarters in the mail today!?!? ... "heavy sigh" ...
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Milo, Welcome aboard! Is that the Swedish Aunt Jemima avatar?
    More coins, less government.
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like you changed it quickly!
    More coins, less government.
  • All SwedeAll Swede Posts: 85 ✭✭
    Let's try that one again. Ah ... the dollar sign ... that's better at least for now ...
    Milo

    *****

    What?!?! No Barber quarters in the mail today!?!? ... "heavy sigh" ...
  • All SwedeAll Swede Posts: 85 ✭✭
    Well, it's not the most embarrassing thing I've done.

    I really didn't notice before, maybe she was Swedish ...
    Milo

    *****

    What?!?! No Barber quarters in the mail today!?!? ... "heavy sigh" ...
  • Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭
    Vern, Here are the first two poor images of the PC53 1907-S. Some day there shall be better one's.

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    Craig


  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paesan - I think you're right about that name recognition getting better service.

    Milo - Welcome to the barber thread. Sorry I missed your original avatar. I hope my buddy Al Sharpton wasn't offended.

    Craig - Such a tough coin, I look forward to seeing better pics.

    Pics for this AM, another selection that popped up in the Stash, PC55:

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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • All SwedeAll Swede Posts: 85 ✭✭
    Vern - I'm not sorry you missed the avatar. All I could say was "oh yeah, that was exactly what I wanted ..."



    Paesan - super coin.
    Milo

    *****

    What?!?! No Barber quarters in the mail today!?!? ... "heavy sigh" ...
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Milo - Welcome and you come with great references. Your coins have preceded you
    so, I know you have good tastes. The last 1893-S Quarter is stunning - and I am glad
    Vern has been posting for you. I assume you are a Quarter fanatic - so - lets see the
    others that havn't been released to us , yet.

    Labelman.... I think you need to get Mark Goodman's book on coin images.
    Even I think I can do a bit better than that - and I know I am terrible. My past
    imaging experience was photographing your AU Quarters when you had an epiphany
    that you no longer wanted any AU Quarters - saving only MS versions. We all know
    how that worked out. If I had the funds, I should have bought lock, stock and slab.
    If for no other reason but to pick up your 14-S !! image

    The 14-S I see on eBay is nice - but - at $3500 obo is too rich for this Old Man !
    I think I'll just live with my VF 30 - but - its something I really would like to add
    to my set.

    I stumbled across an 09-O in PCGS AU 58 today - and I had to nab it...its destined
    for my Everyman's Set of Barber Dimes ...gotcha !! LOL image

    The 09-O Dime is from Northern Nevada Rare Coins - and the images are terrible -
    but - if its really a mess - its returnable.... so, pls excuse these images ... I'll have
    professional ones taken by my friend Valente151 one of these days...

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    What did I tell ya, you need sunglasses to view this coin ! image
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike - That is a bright one.

    Pics for this AM, from Milo's 100% Swede collection, PC40:

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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Nice healthy looking coin, Milo.

    I received a late evening email from CAC -
    a couple of weeks ago I submitted four Barbers:
    1883 Nickel N/C - PCGS 64 - CAC 'd
    1895 Nickel - PCGS 58 - CAC 'd
    1893-S/s Dime - PCGS 62 - CAC 'd
    1906 Quarter - PCGS 58 - No Dice....image
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I snabbed a nice looking 1913 S Barber Half off a Buy It Now on eBay earlier in the week:


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    I was really looking forward to receiving this one in the mail. It arrived yesterday- the first look- it was great! Then I got it in better light and a quick rotation revealed


    Hairlines!! image

    Back it goes. Darn.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • All SwedeAll Swede Posts: 85 ✭✭
    Mike - Thanks for the welcome and yes, you are correct, Barber quarters are at the top of my list. Getting to know the players in the Barber world, like Mike Hayes, is going to be great. More coin pics will be coming.



    Vern - Another package will be coming your way tomorrow. Thanks again for your expertise.
    Milo

    *****

    What?!?! No Barber quarters in the mail today!?!? ... "heavy sigh" ...
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike - Batting .750 is great, congratulations.

    Jeff - Looks MS, too bad about the hairlines.

    Milo - Look forward to the pkg. What a great hobby.

    Pics for this AM, haven't posted one of my friend Keith's coins in a while, PC55:

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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Vern-

    Great original look on the '01 S Dime. I like them looking like that. image


    Another raw pickup- this time a 1899 Liberty Nickel. I bought it thinking it may be a good AU 58 candidate. The listing photos were marginal; when it arrived I noticed something interesting:


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    A knife coming through the back of Miss Liberty's neck!!image


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    It must be a die clash from the wheat on the reverse. If this was a 1912 coin I would say this is what killed off the series.


    Has anyone seen this before?image

    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • daveyndaveyn Posts: 150 ✭✭
    Jeff- Nice pickup, where do you find these things, I've worked my tail off in Chicago and found only one coin. I spent hours at a 60 table one day show finding nothing, guess I'll be trolling EBAY tonight.

    Mike- nice coins indeed, but I really liked your old 1905-S half, like the darker look a lot.

    Labelman- really like the looks of your 1907 Quarter, bet it looks real good in hand.


    Off to EBAY.


    Dave
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Dave: Thanks for the comments on my old 1905-S in PCGS 45 - which I
    just recently had CAC'd. A good friend is building a set of Halves for his
    Son, and he bought it when I mentioned that I had upgraded to an AU 53.

    This past week I noticed that I was remiss in locating some very common
    Dimes for my Everyman set. Last week, I nabbed a beautiful 1909-O
    in PCGS 58 and today, I pulled the trigger on a very heavily toned ( OBV ) 1892
    Phila Dime in PC 58. The REV is very lusterous and much lighter than the OBV.
    Once again, the images are terrible - so, it goes in the pile for 1) CAC and 2) for
    imaging with Valente151.

    I think the OBV will be fine in normal daylight. I think it'll do the Everyman Set
    "just fine" !!

    - edit to add seller's images ....

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    BTW - I like the 1901-S Dime in 55 as well... very tough coin to locate.

    Jeff: I like the 1899 very much - but aside from the clash marks, I think
    the coin won't grade as an AU...its a nice MS coin [ at least from the images !! ]

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • daveyndaveyn Posts: 150 ✭✭
    Mike-Looking forward to seeing more images of the 1892, judging by what you have posted that obverse is absolutely perfect. I'm very partial to the darker toned coins and that sure is a beauty.


    Dave

  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for all the nice comments on Keith's 01-S dime. If he ever decides to sell it (unlikely), I'll be the first in line.

    Jeff - I've never noticed that die clash before. I think it's an added bonus to a good looking 1899. Congratulations.

    Mike - If your '92 dime was a Morgan, I'd think it was from the end of a roll.

    Dave - Good luck hunting on the bay.

    Pics for this AM, another from Milo's 100% Swede collection, PC50:

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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: MFH
    Jeff: I like the 1899 very much - but aside from the clash marks, I think
    the coin won't grade as an AU...its a nice MS coin [ at least from the images !! ]



    Mike-

    Nice dime; you've really been improving your set!


    I agree, the '99 will likely grade 63. Since I have a 65 in the set the only reason to keep it is due to the interesting clash. I guess coins like this have little collector interest as they do in modern issues. I'll probably send it in to PCGS and keep it, but I sure wish there was some sort of designation for the error like the VAM's for Morgan $$.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - I looked up varieties in the "Complete Guide to Shield and Liberty Head Nickels", by Peters & Mohon, and couldn't find any mention of your clash, although they do make an effort to organize V Nickel varieties, most of which are repunched dates.

    Pics for this AM, dime from my friend Dan's collection, PC67::

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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • daveyndaveyn Posts: 150 ✭✭
    Vern- beatiful color and
    nice pic a great example of an excepional looking coin.
  • All SwedeAll Swede Posts: 85 ✭✭
    Mike - I think your 92 dime will be a very nice addition to your Everyman set. Great job pulling the trigger.



    Vern - Another 92 dime for review. All I can say is that it really is an exceptional looking coin. WOW!!
    Milo

    *****

    What?!?! No Barber quarters in the mail today!?!? ... "heavy sigh" ...
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fifty-nine days and counting.
    More coins, less government.
  • Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Dave: Here is the coin I owned years age and foolishly sold.

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    The PC53 that was just imaged is a great coin for the date but not quite as nice as this.
    Craig


  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: paesan
    Fifty-nine days and counting.


    Do you get to charge PCGS a rental fee? This is getting a bit ridiculous; I've seen Economy shared orders being processed in 3 to 4 weeks!


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    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dave/Milo - My pics don't do Dan's 1892 justice.

    Paesan - Maybe your order fell behind someone's desk.

    Craig - You're not in that boat alone, there's more than a couple coins I wish I'd never sold.

    Pics for this AM, Keith bought this toughie back in the 90's, raw (never been to a grading service):

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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: barberkeys
    Jeff/Paesan - IMHO, the minus grade already exists, it's called a coin in an NGC holder.


    Lenny-


    Hopefully you're not trying to cross over coins in NGC holder. Vern thiiks they're "-" grade coins; perhaps PCGS is coming up with a new label for you?

    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff, you're probably right. Next submission I'm sending under the name Lenny Laibstain.
    More coins, less government.

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