Originally posted by: Kudbegud Back button worked for me. Using IE for the last few time and it seems to work a little better. 7,000 orders from mine so far
It only takes 12,500 unique orders of the maximum to finish this game.
Might sell 100k today and take 6 weeks to sell-out!
Absolutely - or may never.
Remember the HR. Huge day one sales and then dragged on and on.
Back button worked for me. Using IE for the last few time and it seems to work a little better.
7,000 orders from mine so far
It only takes 12,500 unique orders of the maximum to finish this game.
Might sell 100k today and take 6 weeks to sell-out!
Absolutely - or may never.
Remember the HR. Huge day one sales and then dragged on and on.
However, the HR was minted to demand, which takes the allure of a "limited mintage" away and no doubt causes lots of folks to order over a period of time. This is especially true when the base price of gold is volatile. I recall ordering the limit of one HR the moment it was released and then ordering another half-dozen of them a few minutes before they went off sale on December 31.
Originally posted by: greghansen The primary risk with 'backorder' status is whether you will get delivery in time to qualify for 'first strike' designation.
Those backorder dates have been notoriously pessimistic. I wouldn't be surprised if all 125K are FS/ER eligible.
Several boxes of 10 already sold on eBay in the $2600-$2800 range... will be interesting to see where these top out...
Thought it would only take 30 minutes to sell out... guess it took 45
It's not the mintage or household limit. It was only 12,500 ounces of gold. And even though it was overpriced, doesn't take that many buyers to grab up that dollar amount. If it were a cool 1 oz. gold coin with a mintage of only 12,500 of course that would sell out within an hour too.
If the gold quarter and the gold half have the same 125,000 mintage limit, I would not expect those to sell out as quickly given the higher value of the coins.
My guess is a 42 minute sellout. Ya the HH limit is high but here are my rough estimates.
I think the big dealers with their network of buyers will buy roughly 30% of the offering (roughly 38k coins or 3,800 orders). This will take place in the first 10 minutes of ordering if not less. That leaves 87k coins left to the rest of us. Im guessing that another 10% of the mintage will go in full orders of 10 within the first 10 minutes. Thats another 12,500 coins or another 1,250 orders, leaving 74,500 coins. If the average order is 3 coins, that leaves the final number of orders needed to hit a sellout at just under 25k. At 600 orders a minute, that is a total of 42 minutes to sell out.
This is a hyped coin and many people have passed up other coins this year to be able to afford the series. I don't think its unreasonable to estimate a 3 order average. With respects to the 600 orders per minute, the best way I could try to estimate the numbers is to look at previously massively hyped coins and compare the sellout time, mintage and cost. While a totally different series, and a non precious metal, the Eisenhower C&C sold 18k in 10 minutes. I believe the hype is similar to this coin, possibly not as hyped. Thats roughly 1,800 orders per minute, however, the total price is about 1/3 the total of 3 of these coins. I divided 1,800 by 3 to arrive at 600. Yes somewhat flawed logic but best my little brain could come up with.
Love to hear others thoughts on sellout times and why they think that.
Looks like I was really close on the time but WAY off on the order numbers. Judging from order numbers known, the average purchase was 7.5 coins per order. So there are lots of 10 boxes out there.
Originally posted by: pf70collector Depending on the market, I doubt dealers will be returning any of these. They are giving them away at $250 on ebay.
As all too many have found out, pre-sales mean nothing. Once in hand, if they are selling for more the buyer will b happy. If for less the buyer will simply cancel the sale.
Ordered two orders of two coins. Will probably sell one and keep the other.
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I am waiting now to see the first PCGS submission results from those who can do walk-ins and got overnight shipping from the mint. If any MS70 PL's are showing up at all, they could change my ideas on selling my sealed box too soon. The next two coins will be more desirable to me. I suggest the mint lower the household order limit next time to around 2-5 or so, but keep the mintage lower.
Originally posted by: guitarwes I don't know but I can't hardly wait on the Walker. I'm guessing a mintage limit of 75K on the SLQ and Walker.
If lower mintage and even HH limit of five, esp given today's sellout, the next will sell out even faster. It will b easy to get shut out given web site issues. Hard to predict what the Mint will do.
I sure hope that I can be at a computer when they are offered.
Originally posted by: Raufus Will b very interesting to C what the mintage limits and HH limits will b on the next two. Predictions?
The mint originally projected sales from 145K to 225K coins could be sold. My WAG based on that is 60K quarters and 40K halves. (12.5K OZt on the dimes, 15K OZt on the quarters and 20K OZt on the halves.)
However, with today's sell out, they may push more, if they can source the 24k blanks. If they can, then 75K quarters and 50K in halves. Otherwise, I'll stick with my original 60K/40K split.
Edit to add more WAGs:
5 hh limit on the quarters, 2 hh limit on the halves.
Demand will be lower due to the higher prices for the heavier coins.
Originally posted by: Raufus Will b very interesting to C what the mintage limits and HH limits will b on the next two. Predictions?
The mint originally projected sales from 145K to 225K coins could be sold. My WAG based on that is 60K quarters and 40K halves. (12.5K OZt on the dimes, 15K OZt on the quarters and 20K OZt on the halves.)
However, with today's sell out, they may push more, if they can source the 24k blanks. If they can, then 75K quarters and 50K in halves. Otherwise, I'll stick with my original 60K/40K split.
Edit to add more WAGs:
5 hh limit on the quarters, 2 hh limit on the halves.
Demand will be lower due to the higher prices for the heavier coins.
My question is: Will the Mint still offer the 3 piece set?
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Back button worked for me. Using IE for the last few time and it seems to work a little better.
7,000 orders from mine so far
It only takes 12,500 unique orders of the maximum to finish this game.
Might sell 100k today and take 6 weeks to sell-out!
Absolutely - or may never.
Remember the HR. Huge day one sales and then dragged on and on.
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Dang... stepped away from desk and got held up. Sold out.
Sold out or back order? If I recall, those are two different things.
Touche. Backorder ;o
Back button worked for me. Using IE for the last few time and it seems to work a little better.
7,000 orders from mine so far
It only takes 12,500 unique orders of the maximum to finish this game.
Might sell 100k today and take 6 weeks to sell-out!
Absolutely - or may never.
Remember the HR. Huge day one sales and then dragged on and on.
However, the HR was minted to demand, which takes the allure of a "limited mintage" away and no doubt causes lots of folks to order over a period of time. This is especially true when the base price of gold is volatile. I recall ordering the limit of one HR the moment it was released and then ordering another half-dozen of them a few minutes before they went off sale on December 31.
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USM04135 - back order - NICE !!! Can't wait to get it !!!
They had 125k struck but likely only had the packaging in-house for half or maybe 75k of those. These are going....going....gone!
that's a sell out with an average of 6 coins per order average.
The primary risk with 'backorder' status is whether you will get delivery in time to qualify for 'first strike' designation.
Those backorder dates have been notoriously pessimistic. I wouldn't be surprised if all 125K are FS/ER eligible.
Got e-mail confirmation on both my orders...
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None of mine have..all orders show processing
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Officially SOLD OUT ! Yes!
Flipped to unavailable for sure. They'll go back on sale once they eliminate the orders with CC problems, and those that ordered more than 10...
USM04135 - back order - NICE !!! Can't wait to get it !!!
I may be wrong, but didn't the HR quickly go on BO and then once back up lingered on forever?
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Those went pretty fast.
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Think about the Reverse Proof Presidents. Those sold out in about 10-15 minutes...although a much cheaper order.
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Box of 20
Thought it would only take 30 minutes to sell out... guess it took 45
It's not the mintage or household limit. It was only 12,500 ounces of gold. And even though it was overpriced, doesn't take that many buyers to grab up that dollar amount. If it were a cool 1 oz. gold coin with a mintage of only 12,500 of course that would sell out within an hour too.
If the gold quarter and the gold half have the same 125,000 mintage limit, I would not expect those to sell out as quickly given the higher value of the coins.
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My guess is a 42 minute sellout. Ya the HH limit is high but here are my rough estimates.
I think the big dealers with their network of buyers will buy roughly 30% of the offering (roughly 38k coins or 3,800 orders). This will take place in the first 10 minutes of ordering if not less. That leaves 87k coins left to the rest of us. Im guessing that another 10% of the mintage will go in full orders of 10 within the first 10 minutes. Thats another 12,500 coins or another 1,250 orders, leaving 74,500 coins. If the average order is 3 coins, that leaves the final number of orders needed to hit a sellout at just under 25k. At 600 orders a minute, that is a total of 42 minutes to sell out.
This is a hyped coin and many people have passed up other coins this year to be able to afford the series. I don't think its unreasonable to estimate a 3 order average. With respects to the 600 orders per minute, the best way I could try to estimate the numbers is to look at previously massively hyped coins and compare the sellout time, mintage and cost. While a totally different series, and a non precious metal, the Eisenhower C&C sold 18k in 10 minutes. I believe the hype is similar to this coin, possibly not as hyped. Thats roughly 1,800 orders per minute, however, the total price is about 1/3 the total of 3 of these coins. I divided 1,800 by 3 to arrive at 600. Yes somewhat flawed logic but best my little brain could come up with.
Love to hear others thoughts on sellout times and why they think that.
Looks like I was really close on the time but WAY off on the order numbers. Judging from order numbers known, the average purchase was 7.5 coins per order. So there are lots of 10 boxes out there.
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Quick sellout! Glad I didn't sell for a measly $25 profit!!
Who offered that? Thanks
Depending on the market, I doubt dealers will be returning any of these. They are giving them away at $250 on ebay.
As all too many have found out, pre-sales mean nothing. Once in hand, if they are selling for more the buyer will b happy. If for less the buyer will simply cancel the sale.
First order was USM041166xx
Last order was USM041257xx
About 9000 order difference in about 10 minutes.
No. first order was USM41164xx
Box of 20
First order was USM041166xx
Last order was USM041257xx
About 9000 order difference in about 10 minutes.
No. first order was USM41164xx
Over 11,000 in 11 minutes when I was finally able to get my order in. I started trying to order at noon exactly.
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I don't know but I can't hardly wait on the Walker. I'm guessing a mintage limit of 75K on the SLQ and Walker.
If lower mintage and even HH limit of five, esp given today's sellout, the next will sell out even faster. It will b easy to get shut out given web site issues. Hard to predict what the Mint will do.
I sure hope that I can be at a computer when they are offered.
Will b very interesting to C what the mintage limits and HH limits will b on the next two. Predictions?
The mint originally projected sales from 145K to 225K coins could be sold. My WAG based on that is 60K quarters and 40K halves. (12.5K OZt on the dimes, 15K OZt on the quarters and 20K OZt on the halves.)
However, with today's sell out, they may push more, if they can source the 24k blanks. If they can, then 75K quarters and 50K in halves. Otherwise, I'll stick with my original 60K/40K split.
Edit to add more WAGs:
5 hh limit on the quarters, 2 hh limit on the halves.
Demand will be lower due to the higher prices for the heavier coins.
Will b very interesting to C what the mintage limits and HH limits will b on the next two. Predictions?
The mint originally projected sales from 145K to 225K coins could be sold. My WAG based on that is 60K quarters and 40K halves. (12.5K OZt on the dimes, 15K OZt on the quarters and 20K OZt on the halves.)
However, with today's sell out, they may push more, if they can source the 24k blanks. If they can, then 75K quarters and 50K in halves. Otherwise, I'll stick with my original 60K/40K split.
Edit to add more WAGs:
5 hh limit on the quarters, 2 hh limit on the halves.
Demand will be lower due to the higher prices for the heavier coins.
My question is: Will the Mint still offer the 3 piece set?
My question is: Will the Mint still offer the 3 piece set?
There is no three piece set.
I am hoping for the reverse of the display panel to have three holes, though, if it's big enough.
Edit to add: The mint has released a statement that it'll announce first day sales tomorrow morning...