Well, for what it's worth, I just cancelled my 2 Set order. I got 2 Set's on order PCGS 69'S and 1 Set PCGS 70 Due to arrive tomorrow!! I was just going to "flip" the raw coins, sealed box, but don't think I would get now before the cut of date
my last order was "shipped" today, we'll see if it actually shows up tomorrow... Fingers crossed. There's no way i'm going to pay to have all those shipped to PCGS for grading in the original us mint boxes.
My last 5 orders in single box's shipped out today if they did not i was going to cancel them as well like i did the others i canceled 20 sets. But did rec 30 and the last five are on there way 5.
I am absolutely disgusted with the US Mint fulfillment process for this offering. The so called first strike window has just closed and order shipping still seems to be at a trickle (I received my 2 seperate orders two weeks ago). The fulfillment of Huge commercial orders has destroyed any opportunity for small personal orders to flip or sell (I do neither), and resulted in the cheapest FS70 market price imaginable. The final numbers will surely be affected by returns/cancellations. What could cause such slow shipping?
Just interested are any "first hours" orders still waiting shipment, how about "first day" orders?
<< <i>Well, for what it's worth, I just cancelled my 2 Set order. I got 2 Set's on order PCGS 69'S and 1 Set PCGS 70 Due to arrive tomorrow!! I was just going to "flip" the raw coins, sealed box, but don't think I would get now before the cut of date
Blessings
John >>
You will be kicking yourself on those 69 set's over the next couple of years wishing you had got more 70's.
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Simply Ironic. Does it seem ironic to some of us that our first day ordered S40 sets first were to be shipped in early July, well before the PCGS 7/19 FS deadline; then, orders showed an August shipping date (after the FS deadline) and then the order was changed to 7/19/13 but orders never went to reserved in stock by 7/19. IMO, the USM knew exactly how to play the FS game and wanted us to stay in their game until after 7/19 and until the cancellation box had disappeared. Comments.
<< <i>Simply Ironic. Does it seem ironic to some of us that our first day ordered S40 sets first were to be shipped in early July, well before the PCGS 7/19 FS deadline; then, orders showed an August shipping date (after the FS deadline) and then the order was changed to 7/19/13 but orders never went to reserved in stock by 7/19. IMO, the USM knew exactly how to play the FS game and wanted us to stay in their game until after 7/19 and until the cancellation box had disappeared. Comments. >>
Interesting observation, I thought of it to because the date wasn't changing. I think the US Mint will put these back on sale for a week to sell the canceled orders. Everyone will insist they are returns and complain about the quality.
I like the comment above about order limit for first week, seems fair to me.
"You will be kicking yourself on those 69 set's over the next couple of years wishing you had got more 70's. "
70's are too rich for me, I have 3 full sets of MS69's ASE's 1986 - 2013 All in PCGS MS69 holders, many are FS. It was cheaper to buy the FS 69 Sets for the Enhanced Coin and I can sell the RP coin later or just keep/add to my other RP coins
I did buy the one 70 as I think this is a GREAT SET!!!
Hattrick, Yup, mine shipped the same day, and just received it today (Friday 7/19). To me, I got a real deal. VERY nice Mercanti American Silver Eagle book, the OGP, and all for free shipping @ $309.
Got my pair of PCGS Flag flip 70s from Legacy yesterday. Stunning coins and well packaged with the OGP and the hardcover ASE signed book all for $309, a great deal, imo.
I have 3 sets scheduled to ship from Mint on 7/24. I wasn't planning to send them in but keep them for my PC, so I'm fine with that.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Oh well ! I have done things in my lifetime that will probably send me in the other direction.
I have only posted on the forum recently but have read it every day since you started your epic post on the 2010 ATB's.
I hope the WP sets you received from the mint are all 70's. This little guy on my shoulder.
made me cancel my mint order and order 70's from a dealer. >>
While I hated the ATB process if you did get an order in at least you could make some money out of the whole ordeal. It looks like the new process has all but ruined that.
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I had a weird experience...I had my first set marked shipped and hit my cc on 7/17. Now the charge is gone from my cc and it's no longer marked shipped on the mint site (says will ship on 7/19, yes I checked it today). What's up with that?
<< <i>I had a weird experience...I had my first set marked shipped and hit my cc on 7/17. Now the charge is gone from my cc and it's no longer marked shipped on the mint site (says will ship on 7/19, yes I checked it today). What's up with that? >>
They decided to ship my sets that I ordered on the last day before yours!!!
Sorry, but I couldn't help myself (I cancelled my order before the ordering window even closed). All I can say is, "Welcome to the US Mint's way of doing things!!!"
<< <i>I had a weird experience...I had my first set marked shipped and hit my cc on 7/17. Now the charge is gone from my cc and it's no longer marked shipped on the mint site (says will ship on 7/19, yes I checked it today). What's up with that? >>
The same thing happened to me. I have a valid tracking number, provided by the US Mint via email, but the order shows that I can still cancel it! My package is on it's way but the mint site hasn't caught up yet.
Updated population report numbers: 517956 Enhanced Unc 69 = 2169 / 27.9%, 70 = 5604 / 72.1%, total =7773 517988 Rev Proof 69 = 2782 / 35.9%, 70 = 4967 / 64.1%, total 7749 Still no 68's shown. A very high percentage of 70's. Would it be possible, and taking into account the falling price on Ebay, that 68's could be the rarer and thus the more valuable coin in the future? Absurd you say? Has it ever happened before?
My wife missed signing for my shipment of 5 from the Mint on Friday, 7/19 (was shipped on 7/17) by UPS. Ordered 1st day in the 12:00 hour.
Was delivered on Monday morning. Shipped out the 4 Pre-Sale sets I sold on ebay and put the last one in the safe as it's $0 cost due to the profit on the other sets. They were all perfect coins, not a blemish on any of them.
My 2- 70FS Flag sets from Goldmart haven't shipped yet. Maybe soon. I should have Pre-Sold one on the 'bay when they were bringing close to $400 but didn't want to take that chance and not be able to fulfill in case Goldmart didn't fulfill with me.
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<< <i>My wife missed signing for my shipment of 5 from the Mint on Friday, 7/19 (was shipped on 7/17) by UPS. Ordered 1st day in the 12:00 hour.
Was delivered on Monday morning. Shipped out the 4 Pre-Sale sets I sold on ebay and put the last one in the safe as it's $0 cost due to the profit on the other sets. They were all perfect coins, not a blemish on any of them.
My 2- 70FS Flag sets from Goldmart haven't shipped yet. Maybe soon. I should have Pre-Sold one on the 'bay when they were bringing close to $400 but didn't want to take that chance and not be able to fulfill in case Goldmart didn't fulfill with me. >>
Agree...I'm in the same boat with GM. Still awaiting my orders from May & June.
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
I finally got the mint notification that they are on the way. I ordered one set as I have for previous sets. I have no desire to have these or any other sets graded, nor do I buy into the First Strike designation.
<< <i>Also still waiting for my Goldmart set .... >>
Just got off the phone with Goldmart, they said they are "experiencing a shipping delay" and blaming it on PCGS. Said they "should" be getting a shipment in by the end of this week and will ship them out ASAP.
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I just got off the phone with a US Mint Representative and while I do understand that they are not hiring Rocket Scientists for the job, I do wish they at least hired people with just a bit of logical ability. I mean, here the Mint has been moving shipping dates up into the future but now they move them into the past? How do you justify moving a 7/24 ship date to 7/19, on 7/24? If you had done this on 7/10 or 7/18, that would be understandable. But why on 7/24 do you move the ship date to 7/19 ( 5 days into the past ) and then state that you dont know when they will actually ship? Thats plain stupid !
Why not move the ship date to something like 7/29? Maybe 8/10 would be an even better ship date.
The US Mint obviously employs BS Representatives rather than CS Representatives.
<< <i>I just got off the phone with a US Mint Representative and while I do understand that they are not hiring Rocket Scientists for the job, I do wish they at least hired people with just a bit of logical ability. I mean, here the Mint has been moving shipping dates up into the future but now they move them into the past? How do you justify moving a 7/24 ship date to 7/19, on 7/24? If you had done this on 7/10 or 7/18, that would be understandable. But why on 7/24 do you move the ship date to 7/19 ( 5 days into the past ) and then state that you dont know when they will actually ship? Thats plain stupid !
Why not move the ship date to something like 7/29? Maybe 8/10 would be an even better ship date.
The US Mint obviously employs BS Representatives rather than CS Representatives. >>
PBGS....Not Mint employees, but a firm hired (Pitney Bowes Government Services) to handle shipments, orders & inquiries.
NO CHANGE IN THE POP REPORT FROM YESTERDAY
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
<< <i>My 10 set order was supposed to ship 7/24. before I left for work ( 7/23 ) I checked to see if perhaps the sets were shipped yet - No, still 7/24.
Well, I just got home an hour ago and now it says my sets will ship 7/19/13 ! How strange is that?
Will the sets actually ship around 8/1? This is totally a messed up thing going on with PGBG ( or whatever they call themselves ). >>
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If you ordered a couple sets on 5/9 at 10:36 PM, I would guess your like me "in a backordered status", (whatever that means)
My order was around 4pm with various ship dates of 7/2, 8/9 and currently at 7/19. Still nothing in stock and reserved.
Let's give the USM Reps all the credit that they deserve. Think about it, why not use 7/19 (ironically, the PCGS FS Cut-off Date) to hold 1000's of S40 orders in limbo until past the 7/19 date to ship the sets. In the confusion, you forget to cancel the order that did not ship on a timely basis. Again, give these folks credit for manipulating the estd. shipping date of 7/19. Really, I am losing interest in the USM offerings at staggering prices relative to melt and having to count on such unprofessionally folks.
So, now that these have hit the door steps of the early birds, I wonder how many have been opened, cherry-picked and the duds returned? Then, the next question is how many duds will be shipped out to the people who have sets backorder? It sure seems this would be a cost savings to the Mint rahter than Minting new and melting the duds!
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Well, for what it's worth, I just cancelled my 2 Set order.
I got 2 Set's on order PCGS 69'S and 1 Set PCGS 70 Due to arrive tomorrow!!
I was just going to "flip" the raw coins, sealed box, but don't think I would get now before the cut of date
Blessings
John
another order 41496XXX, Order Date: 05/09/2013 at 03:24 PM, is still in process with a cancel box.
the usm has to do a better job getting these shipped. anything I had that was not shipped by today ***CANCELLED***
Hoard the keys.
The so called first strike window has just closed and order shipping still seems
to be at a trickle (I received my 2 seperate orders two weeks ago). The fulfillment
of Huge commercial orders has destroyed any opportunity for small personal orders
to flip or sell (I do neither), and resulted in the cheapest FS70 market price imaginable.
The final numbers will surely be affected by returns/cancellations. What could cause such slow shipping?
Just interested are any "first hours" orders still waiting shipment, how about "first day" orders?
(l8-)>>
<< <i>Just interested are any "first hours" orders still waiting shipment, how about "first day" orders? >>
First day order (12pm PST) of 5 sets is supposed to ship 7/19... We will see if my shipping label reads 7/19, if not...bust
I'm not mad either way, it is what it is
Erik
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reverse........4143
Same window, same process but add one caveat.....
***Orders placed during the first week of the ordering period are limited to 5 sets per household***
This way you don't get stuck behind the big boys.............
<< <i>Well, for what it's worth, I just cancelled my 2 Set order.
I got 2 Set's on order PCGS 69'S and 1 Set PCGS 70 Due to arrive tomorrow!!
I was just going to "flip" the raw coins, sealed box, but don't think I would get now before the cut of date
Blessings
John >>
You will be kicking yourself on those 69 set's over the next couple of years wishing you had got more 70's.
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<< <i>Simply Ironic. Does it seem ironic to some of us that our first day ordered S40 sets first were to be shipped in early July, well before the PCGS 7/19 FS deadline; then, orders showed an August shipping date (after the FS deadline) and then the order was changed to 7/19/13 but orders never went to reserved in stock by 7/19. IMO, the USM knew exactly how to play the FS game and wanted us to stay in their game until after 7/19 and until the cancellation box had disappeared. Comments. >>
Interesting observation, I thought of it to because the date wasn't changing. I think the US Mint will put these back on sale for a week to sell the canceled orders. Everyone will insist they are returns and complain about the quality.
I like the comment above about order limit for first week, seems fair to me.
<< <i> ***Orders placed during the first week of the ordering period are limited to 5 sets per household** >>
or no more than 10
Would make sense to do the same to the more popular "special" issues
Cakes:
"You will be kicking yourself on those 69 set's over the next couple of years wishing you had got more 70's. "
70's are too rich for me, I have 3 full sets of MS69's ASE's 1986 - 2013 All in PCGS MS69 holders, many are FS.
It was cheaper to buy the FS 69 Sets for the Enhanced Coin and I can sell the RP coin later or just keep/add to my other RP coins
I did buy the one 70 as I think this is a GREAT SET!!!
Blessings
John
Yup, mine shipped the same day, and just received it today (Friday 7/19). To me, I got a real deal. VERY nice Mercanti American Silver Eagle book, the OGP, and all for free shipping @ $309.
thanks again, I owe you one
Nooker
Glad it worked out well for both of us. I still get that warm & fuzzy feeling when something I did or said
works out for someone else. Earning my Brownie points for when I go to that " Big Silver Vault" in the sky.
enhanced.........5604
reverse...........4967
<< <i>Earning my Brownie points for when I go to that " Big Silver Vault" in the sky.
I'm pretty sure brownie points aren't accepted in the big coin vault in the sky.
Oh well ! I have done things in my lifetime that will probably send me in the other direction.
I have only posted on the forum recently but have read it every day since you started your epic post on the 2010 ATB's.
I hope the WP sets you received from the mint are all 70's. This little guy on my shoulder.
made me cancel my mint order and order 70's from a dealer.
I have 3 sets scheduled to ship from Mint on 7/24. I wasn't planning to send them in but keep them for my PC, so I'm fine with that.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>jessewvu,
Oh well ! I have done things in my lifetime that will probably send me in the other direction.
I have only posted on the forum recently but have read it every day since you started your epic post on the 2010 ATB's.
I hope the WP sets you received from the mint are all 70's. This little guy on my shoulder.
made me cancel my mint order and order 70's from a dealer. >>
While I hated the ATB process if you did get an order in at least you could make some money out of the whole ordeal. It looks like the new process has all but ruined that.
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<< <i>I had a weird experience...I had my first set marked shipped and hit my cc on 7/17. Now the charge is gone from my cc and it's no longer marked shipped on the mint site (says will ship on 7/19, yes I checked it today). What's up with that? >>
They decided to ship my sets that I ordered on the last day before yours!!!
Sorry, but I couldn't help myself (I cancelled my order before the ordering window even closed). All I can say is, "Welcome to the US Mint's way of doing things!!!"
<< <i>I had a weird experience...I had my first set marked shipped and hit my cc on 7/17. Now the charge is gone from my cc and it's no longer marked shipped on the mint site (says will ship on 7/19, yes I checked it today). What's up with that? >>
The same thing happened to me. I have a valid tracking number, provided by the US Mint via email, but the order shows that I can still cancel it! My package is on it's way but the mint site hasn't caught up yet.
<< <i>These are about to fall below $300 on the bay. >>
Perhaps, but the last four that completed via reg auction....PCGS FS 70...sold for...$323 - $330.
517956 Enhanced Unc 69 = 2169 / 27.9%, 70 = 5604 / 72.1%, total =7773
517988 Rev Proof 69 = 2782 / 35.9%, 70 = 4967 / 64.1%, total 7749
Still no 68's shown. A very high percentage of 70's.
Would it be possible, and taking into account the falling price on Ebay, that 68's could be the rarer and thus the more valuable coin in the future? Absurd you say? Has it ever happened before?
I still don't have my sets which I ordered on the afternoon of release form The Mint.
Would be so cool if the Enhanced is one and done.
Will they do another ASE or even an AGE or APE Enhanced??
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Was delivered on Monday morning. Shipped out the 4 Pre-Sale sets I sold on ebay and put the last one in the safe as it's $0 cost due to the profit on the other sets. They were all perfect coins, not a blemish on any of them.
My 2- 70FS Flag sets from Goldmart haven't shipped yet. Maybe soon. I should have Pre-Sold one on the 'bay when they were bringing close to $400 but didn't want to take that chance and not be able to fulfill in case Goldmart didn't fulfill with me.
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<< <i>My wife missed signing for my shipment of 5 from the Mint on Friday, 7/19 (was shipped on 7/17) by UPS. Ordered 1st day in the 12:00 hour.
Was delivered on Monday morning. Shipped out the 4 Pre-Sale sets I sold on ebay and put the last one in the safe as it's $0 cost due to the profit on the other sets. They were all perfect coins, not a blemish on any of them.
My 2- 70FS Flag sets from Goldmart haven't shipped yet. Maybe soon. I should have Pre-Sold one on the 'bay when they were bringing close to $400 but didn't want to take that chance and not be able to fulfill in case Goldmart didn't fulfill with me. >>
Agree...I'm in the same boat with GM. Still awaiting my orders from May & June.
early last week. I think the final PCGS FS POP's will be 7,000 +. The final factor to affect the potential value of these sets
will be how many mint orders were cancelled and the final mintage number.
<< <i>Also still waiting for my Goldmart set .... >>
Just got off the phone with Goldmart, they said they are "experiencing a shipping delay" and blaming it on PCGS. Said they "should" be getting a shipment in by the end of this week and will ship them out ASAP.
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My 10 set order was supposed to ship 7/24. before I left for work ( 7/23 ) I checked to see if perhaps the sets were shipped yet - No, still 7/24.
Well, I just got home an hour ago and now it says my sets will ship 7/19/13 ! How strange is that?
Will the sets actually ship around 8/1? This is totally a messed up thing going on with PGBG ( or whatever they call themselves ).
Why not move the ship date to something like 7/29? Maybe 8/10 would be an even better ship date.
The US Mint obviously employs BS Representatives rather than CS Representatives.
<< <i>I just got off the phone with a US Mint Representative and while I do understand that they are not hiring Rocket Scientists for the job, I do wish they at least hired people with just a bit of logical ability. I mean, here the Mint has been moving shipping dates up into the future but now they move them into the past? How do you justify moving a 7/24 ship date to 7/19, on 7/24? If you had done this on 7/10 or 7/18, that would be understandable. But why on 7/24 do you move the ship date to 7/19 ( 5 days into the past ) and then state that you dont know when they will actually ship? Thats plain stupid !
Why not move the ship date to something like 7/29? Maybe 8/10 would be an even better ship date.
The US Mint obviously employs BS Representatives rather than CS Representatives. >>
PBGS....Not Mint employees, but a firm hired (Pitney Bowes Government Services) to handle shipments, orders & inquiries.
NO CHANGE IN THE POP REPORT FROM YESTERDAY
<< <i>My 10 set order was supposed to ship 7/24. before I left for work ( 7/23 ) I checked to see if perhaps the sets were shipped yet - No, still 7/24.
Well, I just got home an hour ago and now it says my sets will ship 7/19/13 ! How strange is that?
Will the sets actually ship around 8/1? This is totally a messed up thing going on with PGBG ( or whatever they call themselves ). >>
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If you ordered a couple sets on 5/9 at 10:36 PM, I would guess your like me "in a backordered status", (whatever that means)
My order was around 4pm with various ship dates of 7/2, 8/9 and currently at 7/19. Still nothing in stock and reserved.
Best Of Luck!
for novelty's sake