Ah Papi you are so so correct. My idea was to give an easy reference for those interested in this series to allow them the ability to quickly learn form one location.
Papi, like me, has been around these coins since they first came out.
The powers that be got burned by the Minnesota extra trees and refuse to recognize these great coins until they come out in the cherry pickers guide and they are not going to
change their minds.
You can put together all kinds of books but until they are included in cherry pickers you are just spinning your wheels.
It is a slow process and it takes time to get a book together.
puting the information together in order of importance. t has been a pain in the a** for me and I am literate at gathering information on the internet. Just look at how you guys reacted to the list priority I supplied. A way for those that do not have as much knowledge or ability would be very helpful to the younger numismatist both in age and hobby time.
For a numismatic subject like this one, I would recommend a print book more than a web site, mobile app, e-book, DVD, PowerPoint slideshow, or other electronic/digital format.
I appreciate your viewpoint on this Dennis but I think the online info needs to be there for support of a print book. A print book would only be purchased by someone who is a very dedicated collector. I get most of my info off the net as do many others now. Items in actual print are becoming a lost art. Inmost schools they do not even teach script anymore other than your signature. The online presence is a necessity and the ability for a person to print the book from home would save much in the fees for physical publication of the book. We could offer an option to get a bound book for an extra fee if a customer so wanted it. Many more people read books on E-Books or tablets now than in physical printed form. Quadgraphics is all of 10 minutes from my house so I could go there to get some pricing information. I would think that you are familiar with them Dennis.
Yes, by all means the web sites, chat rooms, etc., are important. But nothing beats a book if you want these die varieties to be taken seriously. Coin-collecting is an antiquarian field; it's tactile. Collectors like to hold things in their hands.
If you want to make a splash, create a book.
Edited to clarify:
... a print book that presents everything in a clear, logical, entertaining way, catalogs all the major and minor die varieties, illustrates them with high-resolution enlargements and close-ups, offers insight and advice from collectors and dealers, reports honestly and without bias on the market, and puts the coins in their historical and numismatic context.
Dennis the book is a given but over producing one that is a waste of money. To me it seems that coins in slabs are more important than the coins in hand now. I like the raw coin but a coin in a holder demands a premium. To verify that coin you go on the web not to a book any more. Even the Graysheet is getting antiquated in print because it is always behind in pricing. If an actual print book were to be done I think it should be strictly about the coins in order of importance. I would not include pricing in the book but have a web page and app that is accessible for that information that could be kept more accurate and would have updates on the series. I love reading books in print but just like VCRs print books are antiquated and on they're way out.
i typed a request into google about the title you posted and google asked me if I meant Ebook lol. Our society is very digitally minded now. My boys get laptops at their public school and they have very few printed text books now. I would love to produce a printed book it just needs to be done in the most economical way. I am willing to put time into this project or I would not have posted it. I am not a monetarily rich man but I am rich in ambition and have no qualms about talking to people.
Still lurking and still interested in these great varieties. Just wondering if there is any love for the LP-1 DDRs?
HH
Need the following OBW rolls to complete my 46-64 Roosevelt roll set: 1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S. Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
Hey Halfhunter nice to see you again what do you think of the current topic and the pic I posted? I love them all but if you are referring to the WDDR 001 it has a following and the 002 has been determined to be more plentiful at this time. ANACS is grading these and listing them nicely. The graded coins are getting a premium over raw (who would have guessed).
<< <i>Coin-collecting is an antiquarian field; it's tactile. Collectors like to hold things in their hands. If you want to make a splash, create a book.
... a print book that presents everything in a clear, logical, entertaining way, catalogs all the major and minor die varieties, illustrates them with high-resolution enlargements and close-ups, offers insight and advice from collectors and dealers, reports honestly and without bias on the market, and puts the coins in their historical and numismatic context. >>
I agree, and am thankful to Dennis for taking the giant step of including them in the RB Pro-Edition.
Great thoughts and input from both John and Dennis. THANK YOU
I get what Dennis is sayin, but I also love my iPad and have many references on it now. If there were a digital Red Book, I'd get it more likely than a hard copy annually. Why do you think newspapers are dying? I get it all cheaper online and don't have to deal with recycling all that mass of paper. (BTW I have a stack of old editions of Red Books, what to do?)
Our culture has shifted and will continue to do so. If you want to engage our youth (our future), make it work under their terms. If the digital version works well, try a printed copy. If not, there is far less to lose.
Start simple and build on it. That way it's not overwhelming.
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
<< <i>Why do you think newspapers are dying? I get it all cheaper online and don't have to deal with recycling all that mass of paper. (BTW I have a stack of old editions of Red Books, what to do?)
Our culture has shifted and will continue to do so. If you want to engage our youth (our future), make it work under their terms. >>
FYI
Coin World readership as stated on their site:
Digital Readership: Page Views: 600,000 per month Visitors: 200,000 per month Ipad app: 10,000+ readers
Print Format Coin World Monthly Magazine: 89,000 Coin World Weekly: 31,000
So, there is a need for both, but the movement is clearly towards electronic publishing/readership
<< <i>Still lurking and still interested in these great varieties. Just wondering if there is any love for the LP-1 DDRs?
HH >>
Hey Half, unfortunately there is little love for the LP-1's. Not much sexy about a log-end dot out of place.
Dang I wish you could find another major die issue with these tho! You still hold the honors of one of the biggest error/variety finds of the last 10 years. All Hail!
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
I started working in the wondrous World Wide Web back in the mid-1990s. There was a popular saying back then, circulating through the hallways and conference rooms of probably every design agency in the nation:
CONTENT IS KING!
If you have what it takes to build a good, solid BOOK, you'll be able to "repurpose" it and launch it into any platform you want, electronic or otherwise.
More important than actually physically printing and binding a book is the academic discipline and mental rigor that's needed to put a book together.
Build a good book manuscript (don't get too hung up on the definition of a "book"; I personally think a traditional print book would do this niche a world of good, but your mileage may vary), and then you'll really be able to spread the word.
Gather all of the information needed to communicate your message. . . .
Weed out the extraneous noise. . . .
Organize the information in a logical, coherent, and engaging format. . . .
Address the big, broad picture of numismatics, as well as getting into the minute details of these particular die varieties (give them some historical gravitas). . . .
Gather illustrations that engage the eye --- not just coin enlargements and close-ups, but portraits of Abraham Lincoln, photos of Mint presses and equipment, images of Victor David Brenner at work on what would become the 1909 cent, photos of today's Mint designers working on the 2009 cents, use your imagination. . . .
Hit the pavement and interview enthusiasts, young and old, experienced and newcomers. . . .
Write honestly about the retail market, the wholesale market, pricing trends, comparisons, etc. . . . .
Talk about how the Mint makes coins, distributes them, the role of the Fed, how banks fit into the equation, where collectors can get coins, and other logistics and mechanics. . . .
Estimate mintages, compare output of different Mint facilities, discuss Proofs vs. circulation strikes. . . .
Talk about "die varieties" and "errors" and why these coins are the former and not the latter. . . .
Work with a technical writer or someone with cataloging experience to develop a logical layout, not just for the text, headlines, running heads, chapter openers, etc., but for the charts/tables, layout of images and captions, and the like. . . .
These are just a few ideas that quickly come to mind. If you can create a good book, you'll have the building blocks for a number of good platforms.
That's why the Red Book/Pro are such great references.
I think we have an opportunity to focus more on how these varieties occur -- narrow the focus but with the same attributes you mention.
Again, when done digitally, it allows for gradual development. Wikipedia is a great example. It just keeps building and no printing costs. I'm not saying this should be in a Wiki format, but the author could develop in stages over time.
I'm sure even the esteemed Red Book was a much simpler publication when it started.
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
I do think a book in print is necessary because as we all know things come and go on the internet. To start I would build a simple and concise web site and look at the traffic for interest. I would also put together a printable pocket reference that would list the errors in order of current importance for a small fee. The fees would be put towards operational costs and publication costs. We have enough people here on the board to help with the leg work so now we just need to find some one willing to be a coauthor. I was thinking of contacting John Wexler about this.
Dennis I would like too thank you for your input and help with this process and for what you do for our industry. I am off to the airport now, I am off to AZ. and while I am out there I am going to visit Rick Snow shop and talk to them about these errors and get their opinion on B&M buying and selling.
This 2009 P DDR Forum Thread is a great avenue to stay in touch with the on going, behind the scene events that a growing number of collectors depend on. There is a core group that have paid their dues both in terms of time and $ that the rest of us can greatly benefit from if we simply listen and read their replies to this thread. Dennis and the Professional Red Book have added an important element to the current and future interest of these error coins. John brings new ideas and needed energy to this subject and I sense w/o any regard to personal gain. Thank you. Ultimately, the DDR's will have to stand on their own merits. One of my collector friends made the comment that this Forum thread appeals to only a handful of collectors/dealers/speculators who have primarily their own interests in mind and want the interest in the coins to be propped up for their own gain. I disagree with that opinion. First, interest must be maintained on any rather new numismatic item or it's impact is greatly diminished in today's weak market. The WI extra leaf coins are a good example. Initially; high interest, high prices and a lot of pent up demand. Many of the parties involved got in and out in a big rush to cash out. Second, I do not see the members of this long term core group of 2009 P DDR's being that shallow. Sure, they want the interest to spike but that will best come over time. They do not show any manipulation of Ebay prices or withholding coins from the market. Their honest insights are here to share with anyone. Folks, I believe that these scarce coins (mainly the magnificent seven varieties) will endure. As the economy picks up, the interest in these coins and interest in the Forum thread will be more active. Any means to introduce these errors to the mainstream collectors as John has suggested is great. Many thanks to Pitboss and Papi Onedollar and others as well. Happy Holidays.
Excuse me if I clumsily asked a question. I wasn't suggestion hypocrisy by you Dentuck.
I was commenting about; "That's why books are generally taken more seriously than web sites"
Is the internet simply a source of commerce; not to be taken seriously by antiquarians?
It seems hypocritical, to me, that the TPGs respect the internet for its' commercial benefits, but disrespect it as a reference; specifically when it comes to variety attribution.
When does the book come out John? (might as well start the countdown now) On a serious note It sounds like a project that would be fun to put together. As Dennis has suggested
it's going to take dedicated work to put together. I would be interested to know if Whitman Publishing would finance (with an advance of funds) such a project. Whatever (even small)
contribution I can make toward completing the book I would be willing to do. We could collaborate with professional writers/publishers to accomplish the mission. Good luck!
I repeat.....regarding the proposed book venture....
<< <i> I would be interested to know if Whitman Publishing would finance (with an advance of funds) such a project. >>
on another subject....we are going to have to call him "SellHighBuyLowLeaves" Good luck HighLow.....we'll be watching...This could be a game changer for raw 006's
I saw that -- yeah -- there's others on BIN for less than half. Trying to establish a new base? What say HighLow?
An interesting listing is HERE. DDR from Denver? I queried the seller for better pix and confirmation that it's not a bronze cent version.
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
As most Ebay sellers know, you may receive an offer for an item when selling something with the "Best Offer" feature being offered. If you begin by asking what you will take for it, you leave no room to negotiate. Do I really think that the WDDR 006 will end up selling for good money ? My experience tells me "No". So start off "High" and be happy to accept a "Low" Ebay offer is what I expect will happen. I really don't know at this time what a nice example of a WDDR #006 is really worth. The supply of LP2 USM boxes and good dated bank boxes seem to have dried up. So don't let the initial asking price surprise you. Some Ebay bidders may offer a third of what you want for an item. We can all follow this offering and we can "test the waters" so to speak. Moon $ is not in the cards. I have always been a long term holder of coins that interested me. True, I am offering this one coin on Ebay, but I have had some of them #006's since 2009 when 4/23 boxes were available on Ebay at a reasonable price. Happy Holidays to all.
<< <i>I repeat.....regarding the proposed book venture....
<< <i> I would be interested to know if Whitman Publishing would finance (with an advance of funds) such a project. >>
>>
Whitman doesn't have a program set up for financing independent publishing projects. But there are hobby organizations that do --- like the Token and Medal Society and, perhaps more appropriate for this project, the Central States Numismatic Society.
I'm not seeing it either Papi but those pics don't really help.
I'm with you HighLow in what you're doing with prices and strategy. Like I said..we'll be watching.
On that note...I think I'll probably open my 4/23 boxes. The reason being is that the highest price I've seen the boxes sold for is $80 and you can sell the (raw) individual errors for more,
even at today's values (approx $11-$15 ea.)
Plus the added benefit is the enjoyment of seeing them through the loupe with the hope of finding extremely high grade examples that obviously have the ultimate future value
once slabbed (PCGS?) .
Ok, I'm off to work...you all have a great day and I'll catch up to the conversation later.
I contacted the seller and he said it was a light ghost image around the thumb. Sounds like a ddo-004 or 005 of a satin D, but he can't take better pics at this time so he pulled the listing to try to confirm. I pointed him to Wexler's site and this forum. Hopefully we'll hear from him, sounds like he has a huge cent collection he's going through.
I agree Papi that it didn't appear to be a satin coin, but it's possible a set was broken up and spent -- it would be interesting to see what one of these would look like after circulating for a while.
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
Great information and opportunity for whomever is going to head up a project/publication of the 2009p Lincoln Formative errors. Thank you Dennis (Dentuck). A $5000 grant would be
a help to offset some of the costs I would think. It would be interesting to see if they would give John (Lostincoins) a grant to develop his app or website. Certainly worth a phone call or
email.
<< <i>Whitman doesn't have a program set up for financing independent publishing projects. But there are hobby organizations that do --- like the Token and Medal Society and, perhaps more appropriate for this project, the Central States Numismatic Society. >>
What does it mean when the thread has a yellow highlighted file symbol next to the title? Is it a sign that the thread is under review by the mods? Have we crossed a line somewhere?
I haven't gotten a PM from PCGS (since I'm the OP I would think if there was an issue they would have contacted me) so I'm a little mystified.
The thread doesn't show up unless you do a search under the heading of "Lp2" right now.
Earlier in the day the file symbol was highlighted (causing the same effect as described) then the highlight was removed and the thread showed up as normal.
Grabbed a few 4/29's and a 4/23 today. Still out there if you keep hunting!
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
<< <i>NGC MS 68 listing #400622480952 looks like a WDDR 002 to me. >>
Is this on eBay? Don't see it -- link?
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
Comments
The powers that be got burned by the Minnesota extra trees and refuse to recognize these great coins until they come out in the cherry pickers guide and they are not going to
change their minds.
You can put together all kinds of books but until they are included in cherry pickers you are just spinning your wheels.
It is a slow process and it takes time to get a book together.
My question is; what more would there be to offer than what's out there?
2009 Doubled Dies
more than a web site, mobile app, e-book, DVD, PowerPoint slideshow,
or other electronic/digital format.
As i said before the TPG's will not include them until the CPG comes out with them in it.
I don't know anything about these new ways of communication but if it helps them great.
Go to it guys, if I can help let me know, but computers , tablets and modern electronic marvels are way above my head,
Good luck!
Yes, by all means the web sites, chat rooms, etc.,
are important. But nothing beats a book if you
want these die varieties to be taken seriously.
Coin-collecting is an antiquarian field; it's tactile.
Collectors like to hold things in their hands.
If you want to make a splash, create a book.
Edited to clarify:
... a print book that presents everything in a clear, logical,
entertaining way, catalogs all the major and minor die varieties,
illustrates them with high-resolution enlargements and close-ups,
offers insight and advice from collectors and dealers, reports
honestly and without bias on the market, and puts the coins
in their historical and numismatic context.
What you might not know is the second book
printed by Gutenberg.
Its title: The End Is Nigh! Are Books Obsolete?
quick read
Just wondering if there is any love for the LP-1 DDRs?
HH
1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
<< <i>Coin-collecting is an antiquarian field; it's tactile. Collectors like to hold things in their hands. If you want to make a splash, create a book.
... a print book that presents everything in a clear, logical,
entertaining way, catalogs all the major and minor die varieties,
illustrates them with high-resolution enlargements and close-ups,
offers insight and advice from collectors and dealers, reports
honestly and without bias on the market, and puts the coins
in their historical and numismatic context. >>
I agree, and am thankful to Dennis for taking the giant step of including them in the RB Pro-Edition.
I get what Dennis is sayin, but I also love my iPad and have many references on it now. If there were a digital Red Book, I'd get it more likely than a hard copy annually. Why do you think newspapers are dying? I get it all cheaper online and don't have to deal with recycling all that mass of paper. (BTW I have a stack of old editions of Red Books, what to do?)
Our culture has shifted and will continue to do so. If you want to engage our youth (our future), make it work under their terms. If the digital version works well, try a printed copy. If not, there is far less to lose.
Start simple and build on it. That way it's not overwhelming.
<< <i>Why do you think newspapers are dying? I get it all cheaper online and don't have to deal with recycling all that mass of paper. (BTW I have a stack of old editions of Red Books, what to do?)
Our culture has shifted and will continue to do so. If you want to engage our youth (our future), make it work under their terms. >>
FYI
Coin World readership as stated on their site:
Digital Readership:
Page Views: 600,000 per month
Visitors: 200,000 per month
Ipad app: 10,000+ readers
Print Format
Coin World Monthly Magazine: 89,000
Coin World Weekly: 31,000
So, there is a need for both, but the movement is clearly towards electronic publishing/readership
<< <i>Still lurking and still interested in these great varieties.
Just wondering if there is any love for the LP-1 DDRs?
HH >>
Hey Half, unfortunately there is little love for the LP-1's. Not much sexy about a log-end dot out of place.
Dang I wish you could find another major die issue with these tho! You still hold the honors of one of the biggest error/variety finds of the last 10 years. All Hail!
<< <i>You still hold the honors of one of the biggest error/variety finds of the last 10 years. All Hail! >>
Do tell
mid-1990s. There was a popular saying back then, circulating
through the hallways and conference rooms of probably every
design agency in the nation:
CONTENT IS KING!
If you have what it takes to build a good, solid BOOK, you'll
be able to "repurpose" it and launch it into any platform you
want, electronic or otherwise.
More important than actually physically printing and binding
a book is the academic discipline and mental rigor that's
needed to put a book together.
Build a good book manuscript (don't get too hung up on the
definition of a "book"; I personally think a traditional print
book would do this niche a world of good, but your mileage
may vary), and then you'll really be able to spread the word.
Gather all of the information needed to communicate your
message. . . .
Weed out the extraneous noise. . . .
Organize the information in a logical, coherent, and
engaging format. . . .
Address the big, broad picture of numismatics, as well as
getting into the minute details of these particular die
varieties (give them some historical gravitas). . . .
Gather illustrations that engage the eye --- not just
coin enlargements and close-ups, but portraits of
Abraham Lincoln, photos of Mint presses and
equipment, images of Victor David Brenner at work
on what would become the 1909 cent, photos of
today's Mint designers working on the 2009 cents,
use your imagination. . . .
Hit the pavement and interview enthusiasts, young and
old, experienced and newcomers. . . .
Talk to coin dealers, specialists, generalists, market makers,
cheerleaders, skeptics. . . .
Write honestly about the retail market, the wholesale
market, pricing trends, comparisons, etc. . . . .
Talk about how the Mint makes coins, distributes them,
the role of the Fed, how banks fit into the equation, where
collectors can get coins, and other logistics and mechanics. . . .
Estimate mintages, compare output of different Mint facilities,
discuss Proofs vs. circulation strikes. . . .
Talk about "die varieties" and "errors" and why these coins
are the former and not the latter. . . .
Work with a technical writer or someone with cataloging
experience to develop a logical layout, not just for the
text, headlines, running heads, chapter openers, etc.,
but for the charts/tables, layout of images and captions,
and the like. . . .
These are just a few ideas that quickly come to mind.
If you can create a good book, you'll have the
building blocks for a number of good platforms.
That's why the Red Book/Pro are such great references.
I think we have an opportunity to focus more on how these varieties occur -- narrow the focus but with the same attributes you mention.
Again, when done digitally, it allows for gradual development. Wikipedia is a great example. It just keeps building and no printing costs. I'm not saying this should be in a Wiki format, but the author could develop in stages over time.
I'm sure even the esteemed Red Book was a much simpler publication when it started.
why books are generally taken more seriously than web sites.
<< <i>A book definitely is harder to put together than a web site. That's
why books are generally taken more seriously than web sites. >>
Seems counterproductive, when you're storing the information of the services you (TPG) provide in a computer.
And they (TPGs) have their own web sites, but won't use another for attribution identification?
Hypocritical?
I do think a book in print is necessary because as we all know things come and go on the internet. To start I would build a simple and concise web site and look at the traffic for interest. I would also put together a printable pocket reference that would list the errors in order of current importance for a small fee. The fees would be put towards operational costs and publication costs. We have enough people here on the board to help with the leg work so now we just need to find some one willing to be a coauthor. I was thinking of contacting John Wexler about this.
Dennis I would like too thank you for your input and help with this process and for what you do for our industry. I am off to the airport now, I am off to AZ. and while I am out there I am going to visit Rick Snow shop and talk to them about these errors and get their opinion on B&M buying and selling.
<< <i>
<< <i>A book definitely is harder to put together than a web site. That's
why books are generally taken more seriously than web sites. >>
Seems counter productive, when you're storing the information of the services you (TPG) provide in a computer.
And they (TPGs) have their own web sites, but won't use another for attribution identification?
Hypocritical?
I apologize, but I don't understand what you're saying here.
I was commenting about; "That's why books are generally taken more seriously than web sites"
Is the internet simply a source of commerce; not to be taken seriously by antiquarians?
It seems hypocritical, to me, that the TPGs respect the internet for its' commercial benefits, but disrespect it as a reference; specifically when it comes to variety attribution.
it's going to take dedicated work to put together. I would be interested to know if Whitman Publishing would finance (with an advance of funds) such a project. Whatever (even small)
contribution I can make toward completing the book I would be willing to do. We could collaborate with professional writers/publishers to accomplish the mission. Good luck!
<< <i> I would be interested to know if Whitman Publishing would finance (with an advance of funds) such a project. >>
on another subject....we are going to have to call him "SellHighBuyLowLeaves"
believe!
An interesting listing is HERE. DDR from Denver? I queried the seller for better pix and confirmation that it's not a bronze cent version.
<< <i>I repeat.....regarding the proposed book venture....
<< <i> I would be interested to know if Whitman Publishing would finance (with an advance of funds) such a project. >>
>>
Whitman doesn't have a program set up for financing independent publishing projects. But there are hobby organizations
that do --- like the Token and Medal Society and, perhaps more appropriate for this project, the Central States Numismatic
Society.
Click here for more information on CSNS book grants.
<< <i>I saw that -- yeah -- there's others on BIN for less than half. Trying to establish a new base? What say HighLow?
An interesting listing is HERE. DDR from Denver? I queried the seller for better pix and confirmation that it's not a bronze cent version. >>
I'm not seeing a ddr, nor does it look bronze. If there's something there, it's probably MD or gas bubbles
I'm with you HighLow in what you're doing with prices and strategy. Like I said..we'll be watching.
On that note...I think I'll probably open my 4/23 boxes. The reason being is that the highest price I've seen the boxes sold for is $80 and you can sell the (raw) individual errors for more,
even at today's values (approx $11-$15 ea.)
Plus the added benefit is the enjoyment of seeing them through the loupe with the hope of finding extremely high grade examples that obviously have the ultimate future value
once slabbed (PCGS?) .
Ok, I'm off to work...you all have a great day and I'll catch up to the conversation later.
I agree Papi that it didn't appear to be a satin coin, but it's possible a set was broken up and spent -- it would be interesting to see what one of these would look like after circulating for a while.
a help to offset some of the costs I would think. It would be interesting to see if they would give John (Lostincoins) a grant to develop his app or website. Certainly worth a phone call or
email.
<< <i>Whitman doesn't have a program set up for financing independent publishing projects. But there are hobby organizations
that do --- like the Token and Medal Society and, perhaps more appropriate for this project, the Central States Numismatic
Society. >>
CSNS
I haven't gotten a PM from PCGS (since I'm the OP I would think if there was an issue they would have contacted me) so I'm a little mystified.
The thread doesn't show up unless you do a search under the heading of "Lp2" right now.
Earlier in the day the file symbol was highlighted (causing the same effect as described) then the highlight was removed and the thread showed up as normal.
It's a mystery to me...anyone have a clue?
Maybe only you as the OP?
Grabbed a few 4/29's and a 4/23 today. Still out there if you keep hunting!
<< <i>NGC MS 68 listing #400622480952 looks like a WDDR 002 to me. >>
Is this on eBay? Don't see it -- link?
<< <i>Grabbed a few 4/29's and a 4/23 today. >>
It was a work day for me...so no Ebay hunting allowed.
PB I saw that listing tonight...the pic is shot at such an angle that the glare does give it that 002 look...hard to tell.
<< <i> Grabbed a 4/23 today. >>
Too rich for my blood. Even after you resell the others.