@Sergey74 said:
Here is my third coin of the type...
Neat coin. It looks like it might be an overdate, but doesn't appear to be a 7/6. With only other dates in the 1840's for this issue being 1840-1842, perhaps it's one of those?
@TwoKopeiki said:
Neat coin. It looks like it might be an overdate, but doesn't appear to be a 7/6. With only other dates in the 1840's for this issue being 1840-1842, perhaps it's one of those?
Exactly "neat", my early coins are more rude. One man said about 6-7 and I think the same but the traces are very minor, so not sure.
Can add this one here too:
Edit to add: This 2R from Santiago - Chile are way too difficult to find them in this condition, apart of the low mintage of 51,000, the coin is VF30 and the only one graded at PCGS.
Thanks! and I have more than 30 raw coins waiting to be sent for grading, including some not from the latin America area, that I have been buying just for fun.
One of the keys to a new world crown set. The Dutch issued a single year crown sized 3 gulden for the West Indies colonies, minting 1226 pieces. Today roughly 20 exist with 4 in museums.
This coin MS63 and ex Lissner.
I’m working on a census of the issue with 13 documented. If you come across one please send the picture my way.
Thanks for the help MrE.
@Boosibri said:
One of the keys to a new world crown set. The Dutch issued a single year crown sized 3 gulden for the West Indies colonies, minting 1226 pieces. Today roughly 20 exist with 4 in museums.
This coin MS63 and ex Lissner.
I’m working on a census of the issue with 13 documented. If you come across one please send the picture my way.
Thanks for the help MrE.
Amazing coin! It appears to be the finest known by far. Way nicer than the NGC MS64. Congratulations!
I wonder if folks realize how many world-class and significant coins have been presented in this thread over the years?
@ELuis said:
Can add this one here too:
Edit to add: This 2R from Santiago - Chile are way too difficult to find them in this condition, apart of the low mintage of 51,000, the coin is VF30 and the only one graded at PCGS.s I have mentioned
Scarce coin and a very nice example, @Eluis.
As I have probably already mentioned, Santiago mint coins of Carlos III in grades better than Fine are very scarce, many dates are rare and almost never seen, specially up to 1785. Thereafter they become more available.
My example of this date is low grade (as most), but it has sentimental value for me as it was the first Santiago colonial I ever found (in a coin show in Brussels).
@Eddi said:
As I have probably already mentioned, Santiago mint coins of Carlos III in grades better than Fine are very scarce, many dates are rare and almost never seen, specially up to 1785. Thereafter they become more available.
Yes you mentioned before, I think when I first posted this coin with other two ones that I bought from Mexico & Lima. There was another one that I did not bought the 1785 with a nice patina but with a small bent, also not cheap, in a nice condition, anyway I have not seen any other one since, like this.
Here is a very rare modern that was likely struck in much smaller numbers than the authorised limit with none graded at hosts and only 2 ATS. IN-HOUSE also quite attractive:
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
Ah Luis
Thanks
This one had authorised Mintage of 500 but possibly only the lower number less than 50
Do you remember which lower Mintage you saw?
About 5 years ago I got actual matte uncirculated specimens of 1975FM and 1977FM 10 dollar coins - original Mintage of 28 and 30 pieces, none in sets. Never saw any others in more than 30 years because if I could only get the 1976FM MATTE 10 dollar I would have complete collection.
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
@7Jaguars said:
Ah Luis
Thanks
This one had authorised Mintage of 500 but possibly only the lower number less than 50
Do you remember which lower Mintage you saw?
About 5 years ago I got actual matte uncirculated specimens of 1975FM and 1977FM 10 dollar coins - original Mintage of 28 and 30 pieces, none in sets. Never saw any others in more than 30 years because if I could only get the 1976FM MATTE 10 dollar I would have complete collection.
Sorry no direct url links.
I remember a $25 1984 Proof called Mule with a 20 mintage - the $10 1984 also proof 1100 the 1985 with only 610
Another one of the year 1985 $10 with 1000 mintage -
A 1990 Proof 5 Dollars with 500 - Also a 1987 $10 with 1000 mintage.
i.e:
I marked the 9 in red - but not sure if that means the total mintage after re-reading guess is the number of proof collections they did of some others, anyway seems that are a low mintage of 1000.
Ah yes, those were Royal Mint issues and the proofs had for most years (1987-2002) theoretic maximum mintages of 500 but some MUCH scarcer - like the "uber rare" 2002 set that almost certainly is substantially less than 50 sets. The 1984 mule I am not sure of - I have a specimen - but may be as scarce as that.
The FM is a bit tricky about the mintages of coins and sets, especially circulation or currency types for the period of 1981-85, and the Royal Mint will seemingly not give up information on actual mintages and how many actually RELEASED, so coins like this one remain mysteries....
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
1861 El Salvador Barrios 25 centavos pattern, struck over a US 1857 Seated Quarter. Some might reflexively call it a likely pocket piece. But I think it’s more likely that the strong undertype made the piece unsuitable for its purpose, and it was unceremoniously put into circulation without further thought.
Andy Lustig
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
1861 El Salvador Barrios 25 centavos pattern, struck over a US 1857 Seated Quarter. Some might reflexively call it a likely pocket piece. But I think it’s more likely that the strong undertype made the piece unsuitable for its purpose, and it was unceremoniously put into circulation without further thought.
While preparing my group of 2 Reales for a viewing I happened to stumble upon this raw 1788 Charles III 2R that I forgot about. This coin was among the first Spanish Colonials that I purchased - knowing very little about them at the time. "Riddell's A Monograph Of The Silver Dollar: Good And Bad" was the first book that I acquired and used it to determine that the other was a counterfeit. As a result, I have sought to learn as much as possible to mitigate future mistakes. The dealer from whom I bought the coins was surprised by my discovery of the fake. We have been close friends ever since.
While the condition of this M2.88b variety is not the best, it is unusual. Sharing it with the group seemed the right thing to do as very few of these have been reported.
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Thanks much.> @SimonW said:
Congrats, nice pick-up.
A little something new for my core collection
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Here is my third coin of the type...
Peace.
Neat coin. It looks like it might be an overdate, but doesn't appear to be a 7/6. With only other dates in the 1840's for this issue being 1840-1842, perhaps it's one of those?
8 Reales Madness Collection
Exactly "neat", my early coins are more rude. One man said about 6-7 and I think the same but the traces are very minor, so not sure.
Peace.
Posting this one:
And this one:
And this can go here too:
This one:
Adding this too:
Can add this one here too:
Edit to add: This 2R from Santiago - Chile are way too difficult to find them in this condition, apart of the low mintage of 51,000, the coin is VF30 and the only one graded at PCGS.
And this one:
And this one:
Edit to add: On this coin I did not noticed right away that it was placed on the label as an Onza versus a 1/4, so I simple leave it like that.
ELuis you are on fire!!!
Thanks! and I have more than 30 raw coins waiting to be sent for grading, including some not from the latin America area, that I have been buying just for fun.
This one is one of the three coins I have on a NGC slab.
1903 Mo M MEXICO G1P - SMALL DATE - MS65
A nicely matched set consisting of the 1774 one real and the 1774 1/2 real
Charles III Album
Charles III Portrait Set
Charles IV Album
Charles IV Portrait Set
Spanish Colonial Pillar Set
@JohnnyCache Wow, nice set!
Thanks!!
Add in a previously shown 2R and its almost starting to shape up into something.
Charles III Album
Charles III Portrait Set
Charles IV Album
Charles IV Portrait Set
Spanish Colonial Pillar Set
Posting this one:
This can go here too:
One of the keys to a new world crown set. The Dutch issued a single year crown sized 3 gulden for the West Indies colonies, minting 1226 pieces. Today roughly 20 exist with 4 in museums.
This coin MS63 and ex Lissner.
I’m working on a census of the issue with 13 documented. If you come across one please send the picture my way.
Thanks for the help MrE.
Latin American Collection
Amazing coin! It appears to be the finest known by far. Way nicer than the NGC MS64. Congratulations!
I wonder if folks realize how many world-class and significant coins have been presented in this thread over the years?
@pruebas agree, I have seen more than a few.
Charles III Album
Charles III Portrait Set
Charles IV Album
Charles IV Portrait Set
Spanish Colonial Pillar Set
That’s very very nice @JohnnyCache !!!
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Love the coin, but still mad about the grade, well struck and not dipped with minimal to no hairlines:
Well, just Love coins, period.
Extremely rare date of 2000 Bahamas One Dollar struck at Royal Mint (currency)
Well, just Love coins, period.
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I like your taste, Simon
Scarce coin and a very nice example, @Eluis.
As I have probably already mentioned, Santiago mint coins of Carlos III in grades better than Fine are very scarce, many dates are rare and almost never seen, specially up to 1785. Thereafter they become more available.
My example of this date is low grade (as most), but it has sentimental value for me as it was the first Santiago colonial I ever found (in a coin show in Brussels).
Yes you mentioned before, I think when I first posted this coin with other two ones that I bought from Mexico & Lima. There was another one that I did not bought the 1785 with a nice patina but with a small bent, also not cheap, in a nice condition, anyway I have not seen any other one since, like this.
Here is a very rare modern that was likely struck in much smaller numbers than the authorised limit with none graded at hosts and only 2 ATS. IN-HOUSE also quite attractive:
Well, just Love coins, period.
Nice coin!
Have seen modern coins from Jamaica proofs with very low mintages in silver even with only 20, do not own any coin of this country.
Ah Luis
Thanks
This one had authorised Mintage of 500 but possibly only the lower number less than 50
Do you remember which lower Mintage you saw?
About 5 years ago I got actual matte uncirculated specimens of 1975FM and 1977FM 10 dollar coins - original Mintage of 28 and 30 pieces, none in sets. Never saw any others in more than 30 years because if I could only get the 1976FM MATTE 10 dollar I would have complete collection.
Well, just Love coins, period.
Sorry no direct url links.
I remember a $25 1984 Proof called Mule with a 20 mintage - the $10 1984 also proof 1100 the 1985 with only 610
Another one of the year 1985 $10 with 1000 mintage -
A 1990 Proof 5 Dollars with 500 - Also a 1987 $10 with 1000 mintage.
i.e:
I marked the 9 in red - but not sure if that means the total mintage after re-reading guess is the number of proof collections they did of some others, anyway seems that are a low mintage of 1000.
Ah yes, those were Royal Mint issues and the proofs had for most years (1987-2002) theoretic maximum mintages of 500 but some MUCH scarcer - like the "uber rare" 2002 set that almost certainly is substantially less than 50 sets. The 1984 mule I am not sure of - I have a specimen - but may be as scarce as that.
The FM is a bit tricky about the mintages of coins and sets, especially circulation or currency types for the period of 1981-85, and the Royal Mint will seemingly not give up information on actual mintages and how many actually RELEASED, so coins like this one remain mysteries....
Well, just Love coins, period.
1861 El Salvador Barrios 25 centavos pattern, struck over a US 1857 Seated Quarter. Some might reflexively call it a likely pocket piece. But I think it’s more likely that the strong undertype made the piece unsuitable for its purpose, and it was unceremoniously put into circulation without further thought.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
Pretty cool
8 Reales Madness Collection
A shiny little South American coin I have had for a little over a decade.
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1783 2 Real Peru mint mark
Looks like the "L" may be doubled
While preparing my group of 2 Reales for a viewing I happened to stumble upon this raw 1788 Charles III 2R that I forgot about. This coin was among the first Spanish Colonials that I purchased - knowing very little about them at the time. "Riddell's A Monograph Of The Silver Dollar: Good And Bad" was the first book that I acquired and used it to determine that the other was a counterfeit. As a result, I have sought to learn as much as possible to mitigate future mistakes. The dealer from whom I bought the coins was surprised by my discovery of the fake. We have been close friends ever since.
While the condition of this M2.88b variety is not the best, it is unusual. Sharing it with the group seemed the right thing to do as very few of these have been reported.
Bought at MDC today
Latin American Collection
Very cool @Boosibri
Maybe the beginning of a date set?
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