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I sent in an a$$load of 2006 w to Kitco when platinum was going for $2200 an ounce. How doe s that figure into the royal lineage? in terms of raw numbers of available coins, the 2006 -w will always be the kings. >>
Coinhog, can you please quantify the number in an "a$$load"?
the more I think about the plat unc-ws, the more I get the feeling they will languish for quite some time, no matter who is king. The real stars this year are the '08 proof plats--so much so, that I think they are just going to knock the unc-ws off the radar for a long time. Not that I'm happy about that, having paid full price for my '06s, but it's still hard seeing how these are really going to catch fire.
Other than flippers it seems not a whole lot of people really care about these unc W gold or plat pieces, and the silver quite unexciting as well. That having been said, I dutifully got all but the 1 oz. gold unc buff and gold 1 oz unc W eagle - I must be one of the endangered species of collectors of these things....
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
<< <i>Other than flippers it seems not a whole lot of people really care about these unc W gold or plat pieces, and the silver quite unexciting as well. >>
I decided to pass on all of this stuff, because coins I really care about soak up all my money, without any help from the avaricious US Mint. I even canceled my order for the UHR, because the Mint will eventually flood the market with them, just like they did with the 2006 Buffalos and the 2007 reverse proof Platinum. Those are still taking up room at my bank.
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Other than flippers it seems not a whole lot of people really care about these unc W gold or plat pieces, and the silver quite unexciting as well. That having been said, I dutifully got all but the 1 oz. gold unc buff and gold 1 oz unc W eagle - I must be one of the endangered species of collectors of these things....
I think there's a lot going on this year. There was a lot of excitement about 2008 plat uncs, then Buffalo golds, then plat proofs, not to mention the ASEs; all in a market that was tanking and where cash is in short supply.
Hard for me to get excited about the gold uncs; I'm too exhausted.
Are they really gone, or just pulled for repricing? If they're really gone, those numbers don't look too bad. I guess the $25 is the best/lowest mintage.
<< <i> If they're really gone, those numbers don't look too bad. I guess the $25 is the best/lowest mintage. >>
The 888 properity sets add huge numbers to the 2008-W 1/2 OZ AGE mintage. So far around 5,000 + making the 2008-W 1/2 OZ AGE the highest mintage by far of all the 2008-W AGE unc coins.
<< <i>Other than flippers it seems not a whole lot of people really care about these unc W gold or plat pieces, and the silver quite unexciting as well. >>
I decided to pass on all of this stuff, because coins I really care about soak up all my money, without any help from the avaricious US Mint. I even canceled my order for the UHR, because the Mint will eventually flood the market with them, just like they did with the 2006 Buffalos and the 2007 reverse proof Platinum. Those are still taking up room at my bank. >>
I'd be happy to let them take up space at my bank!! Just let me know when your SDB's are too full of those lousy, darn buffalos...or, for that matter, any other gold coins.
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The 888 properity sets add huge numbers to the 2008-W 1/2 OZ AGE mintage. So far around 5,000 + making the 2008-W 1/2 OZ AGE the highest mintage by far of all the 2008-W AGE unc coins.
The 1/4 oz unc gold AGE has a chance at a mintage under 7K. If you were able to get this before the new pricing policy was established when it was $275, I'd say this is a good situation to be in. But after today's gold repricing, maybe not so much. If we have a reprice downward next Thursday and these are still available, they might be worth considering again.
The market turns on a dime for the next hot thing.....we all should be used to this already....
if the plat unc mintages show sub 2006-w like I believe they will.......they will be the next hot thing. How hot? Who knows.
Look at the Buffs and Plat Proofs, even though they are real low numbers, they were hot for a few weeks now they have cooled. (And please lets not have tons of posts of the one ebay auction that proves otherwise....believe me guys, I've seen realistically priced Buffs AND Plat Proofs that are sitting in dealers cases getting an occasional question, but no buyers at the current inflated levels)
Why? Just like many have suspected. Thousands of collector dollars being thrown at the UHR. Will this thing ever be worth more than melt? Probably not. But big $$$ are being thrown at it, much of the money that would have otherwise found it's way into plat proofs, etc.
The market turns on a dime for the next hot thing.....we all should be used to this already....
if the plat unc mintages show sub 2006-w like I believe they will.......they will be the next hot thing. How hot? Who knows.
Look at the Buffs and Plat Proofs, even though they are real low numbers, they were hot for a few weeks now they have cooled. (And please lets not have tons of posts of the one ebay auction that proves otherwise....believe me guys, I've seen realistically priced Buffs AND Plat Proofs that are sitting in dealers cases getting an occasional question, but no buyers at the current inflated levels)
Why? Just like many have suspected. Thousands of collector dollars being thrown at the UHR. Will this thing ever be worth more than melt? Probably not. But big $$$ are being thrown at it, much of the money that would have otherwise found it's way into plat proofs, etc. >>
i agree that UHR will settle down and but i don't know about the $50 buffalo, that is looking like it will have the lowest mintage of all gold coins.
<< <i>those unc buffs will eventually higher, but for now that have plateau'd >>
i'm still hoping to pick up an UHR later in the year,but for this coin i'll leave it in the mint package. i think over time it will do better to leave it ungraded
The thing about the UHR is nobody knows what the final mintage will be. If it is over 25,000 then I guess it will be closer to melt for those coins with a small premium. Even the high mintage 2006 buffalo $50 proof brings a premium though.
But if they make the coins again for 2010 and that mintage comes in under 2009 then it will probably be melt is my guess for 2009.
PS With all of the hoopla over this coin though I will be surprised if they make less than 30,000 at a minimum for 2009. It won't be nearly as rare as some of the recent one ounce gold coins, even the reverse proof barely sells for what it is worth compared to what it was minted at these days.
I've seen one reference of over 40,000 UHR sold already.... and none ready to ship.
So how many of you are going to cancel their orders?? Looks like it will not be in short supply (UNLESS the Mint just cannot fulfill all of the orders due to planchet supplies, the amount of time needed to mint these, etc.) Could still be interesting....
<< <i>The thing about the UHR is nobody knows what the final mintage will be. If it is over 25,000 then I guess it will be closer to melt for those coins with a small premium. Even the high mintage 2006 buffalo $50 proof brings a premium though.
But if they make the coins again for 2010 and that mintage comes in under 2009 then it will probably be melt is my guess for 2009.
PS With all of the hoopla over this coin though I will be surprised if they make less than 30,000 at a minimum for 2009. It won't be nearly as rare as some of the recent one ounce gold coins, even the reverse proof barely sells for what it is worth compared to what it was minted at these days. >>
This will be a one year issue as gold. 2010 will bring a palladium coin.
That may be a lower mintage.
This year will be minted to demand and with 40000 already ordered it may be very high mintage.
I see on the mint website this is the law they say applies to the UHR.
"(4) (A) Notwithstanding any other provision of law and subject to subparagraph (B), the Secretary of the Treasury may change the diameter, weight, or design of any coin minted under this subsection or the fineness of the gold in the alloy of any such coin if the Secretary determines that the specific diameter, weight, design, or fineness of gold which differs from that otherwise required by law is appropriate for such coin. (B) The Secretary may not mint any coin with respect to which a determination has been made by the Secretary under subparagraph (A) before the end of the 30-day period beginning on the date a notice of such determination is published in the Federal Register. (C) The Secretary may continue to mint and issue coins in accordance with the specifications contained in paragraphs (7), (8), (9), and (10) of subsection (a) and paragraph (1)(A) of this subsection at the same time the Secretary in minting and issuing other bullion and proof gold coins under this subsection in accordance with such program procedures and coin specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions as the Secretary, in the Secretary’s discretion, may prescribe from time to time. "
So while they may only do this coin for 2009 if it is very popular I don't see where it says they can't do it again for 2010. I think realistically the mint needs to offer better designs for the coins they sell at the high premiums over those that people buy from the dealer network. So perhaps the UHR will be a better coin than say the regular gold unc 1 ounce with the W eagle.
<< <i>I've seen one reference of over 40,000 UHR sold already.... and none ready to ship.
So how many of you are going to cancel their orders?? Looks like it will not be in short supply (UNLESS the Mint just cannot fulfill all of the orders due to planchet supplies, the amount of time needed to mint these, etc.) Could still be interesting.... >>
I saw this coin at the Balto show and just loved it. It is a literally stunning coin. I bought it with the full expectation that it will never be worth much more (if any) than spot, just because I love it. No plans to cancel. In fact, I got my father to order one so that I'll have one for both kids. I'll leave them in the OGP which looks great.
Gold back up, AGE Uncs. back up, 4 coins set on backorder - looks like it's done! The individual coins will likely follow soon. The quarter could end up with some very low numbers.
Hey...what gives...the "gap" between my UHR coin and book seems to be expanding! Anyone else have a 14-day gap?
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00 1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/06/2009. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK 1 $0.00 $0.00 1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/20/2009.
From the link mentioned two posts back...basically I'm not seeing anything new in these numbers from what was previously known.
2008-W American Eagle Platinum Uncirculated Sales Notes 1 ounce 1,905 Sold Out 1/2 ounce 1,257 Sold Out 1/4 ounce 1,736 Sold Out 1/10 ounce 2,465 Sold Out 4 coin set 2,158 Sold Out
2008-W American Eagle Platinum Proof Sales Notes 1 ounce 2,432 Sold Out 1/2 ounce 1,056 Sold Out 1/4 ounce 1,293 Sold Out 1/10 ounce 3,052 Sold Out 4 coin set 2,598 Sold Out
<< <i>The thing about the UHR is nobody knows what the final mintage will be. If it is over 25,000 then I guess it will be closer to melt for those coins with a small premium. Even the high mintage 2006 buffalo $50 proof brings a premium though.
But if they make the coins again for 2010 and that mintage comes in under 2009 then it will probably be melt is my guess for 2009.
PS With all of the hoopla over this coin though I will be surprised if they make less than 30,000 at a minimum for 2009. It won't be nearly as rare as some of the recent one ounce gold coins, even the reverse proof barely sells for what it is worth compared to what it was minted at these days. >>
What are the gold reverse proofs going for? Figure in 06 3 ounces in the set at $2610., avg's to 870 a piece, shirley they are bringing in more than that?
No change in numbers, also asterisks added to the buffalo proof.
Just checking from the prior week no numbers with asterisks changed so that could mean the numbers are final. It appears 2006 w unc will be the kings.
PS Good news for the proof plats as they also have asterisks. I still think they have to adjust some coins a small amount eventually, but probably not the amount some here are praying for. That adjustment may not happen for a couple of months though well after these numbers are no longer released.
Just thinking out loud...but the "*" could also mean that numbers are simply not final...without indicating how far off they might ultimately turn out to be.
Just thinking out loud...but the "*" could also mean that numbers are simply not final...without indicating how far off they might ultimately turn out to be.
It shows the buffalo unc fractionals as not having asterisks and they are not available. Asterisks were also added much later than not available for some options.
So it would be strange to not put asterisks on the unc buffaloes if all it means is they are not available.
<< <i>No change in numbers, also asterisks added to the buffalo proof.
Just checking from the prior week no numbers with asterisks changed so that could mean the numbers are final. It appears 2006 w unc will be the kings.
PS Good news for the proof plats as they also have asterisks. I still think they have to adjust some coins a small amount eventually, but probably not the amount some here are praying for. That adjustment may not happen for a couple of months though well after these numbers are no longer released. >>
What do the asterisks indicate? Thanks. (Edited: I see the answer in another post. Oops.)
<< <i>I sent in an a$$load of 2006 w to Kitco when platinum was going for $2200 an ounce. How doe s that figure into the royal lineage? in terms of raw numbers of available coins, the 2006 -w will always be the kings. >>
Coinhog, can you please quantify the number in an "a$$load"?
Ren(W) >>
In that particular case it was 11 one ounce pieces if chit in that a$$load
Comments
Slightly delayed, I understand mintages will be available any day now....it's still January.....
I knew it would happen.
I sent in an a$$load of 2006 w to Kitco when platinum was going for $2200 an ounce. How doe s that figure into the royal lineage? in terms of raw numbers of available coins, the 2006 -w will always be the kings. >>
Coinhog, can you please quantify the number in an "a$$load"?
Ren(W)
<< <i>Hog
Slightly delayed, I understand mintages will be available any day now....it's still January..... >>
My money is on seven-eighths. I have a vested interest. I now have a $25, $50 and $100 in PCGS70 riding.
Ren(W)
Realistically, the 2006-W Uncs have a 2 year head start and one platinum price spike liquidation in their favor.
Thus, the 2008-W Uncs will have to drop BELOW the 2006-W levels just to catch up.
Of course, I've been wrong before.
I knew it would happen.
Other than flippers it seems not a whole lot of people really care about these unc W gold or plat pieces, and the silver quite unexciting as well. That having been said, I dutifully got all but the 1 oz. gold unc buff and gold 1 oz unc W eagle - I must be one of the endangered species of collectors of these things....
Well, just Love coins, period.
<< <i>Other than flippers it seems not a whole lot of people really care about these unc W gold or plat pieces, and the silver quite unexciting as well. >>
I decided to pass on all of this stuff, because coins I really care about soak up all my money, without any help from the avaricious US Mint. I even canceled my order for the UHR, because the Mint will eventually flood the market with them, just like they did with the 2006 Buffalos and the 2007 reverse proof Platinum. Those are still taking up room at my bank.
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Other than flippers it seems not a whole lot of people really care about these unc W gold or plat pieces, and the silver quite unexciting as well. That having been said, I dutifully got all but the 1 oz. gold unc buff and gold 1 oz unc W eagle - I must be one of the endangered species of collectors of these things....
I think there's a lot going on this year. There was a lot of excitement about 2008 plat uncs, then Buffalo golds, then plat proofs, not to mention the ASEs; all in a market that was tanking and where cash is in short supply.
Hard for me to get excited about the gold uncs; I'm too exhausted.
Are they really gone, or just pulled for repricing? If they're really gone, those numbers don't look too bad. I guess the $25 is the best/lowest mintage.
<< <i> If they're really gone, those numbers don't look too bad. I guess the $25 is the best/lowest mintage. >>
The 888 properity sets add huge numbers to the 2008-W 1/2 OZ AGE mintage. So far around 5,000 + making the 2008-W 1/2 OZ AGE the highest mintage by far of all the 2008-W AGE unc coins.
<< <i>
<< <i>Other than flippers it seems not a whole lot of people really care about these unc W gold or plat pieces, and the silver quite unexciting as well. >>
I decided to pass on all of this stuff, because coins I really care about soak up all my money, without any help from the avaricious US Mint. I even canceled my order for the UHR, because the Mint will eventually flood the market with them, just like they did with the 2006 Buffalos and the 2007 reverse proof Platinum. Those are still taking up room at my bank.
I'd be happy to let them take up space at my bank!!
Right-- thanks for reminding me
M.I.D. January = Man, I Doubt January.....
Other than flippers it seems not a whole lot of people really care about these unc W gold or plat pieces
I care! I care! I really do!!
I knew it would happen.
The market turns on a dime for the next hot thing.....we all should be used to this already....
if the plat unc mintages show sub 2006-w like I believe they will.......they will be the next hot thing. How hot? Who knows.
Look at the Buffs and Plat Proofs, even though they are real low numbers, they were hot for a few weeks now they have cooled. (And please lets not have tons of posts of the one ebay auction that proves otherwise....believe me guys, I've seen realistically priced Buffs AND Plat Proofs that are sitting in dealers cases getting an occasional question, but no buyers at the current inflated levels)
Why? Just like many have suspected. Thousands of collector dollars being thrown at the UHR. Will this thing ever be worth more than melt? Probably not. But big $$$ are being thrown at it, much of the money that would have otherwise found it's way into plat proofs, etc.
<< <i>Gritsman -
The market turns on a dime for the next hot thing.....we all should be used to this already....
if the plat unc mintages show sub 2006-w like I believe they will.......they will be the next hot thing. How hot? Who knows.
Look at the Buffs and Plat Proofs, even though they are real low numbers, they were hot for a few weeks now they have cooled. (And please lets not have tons of posts of the one ebay auction that proves otherwise....believe me guys, I've seen realistically priced Buffs AND Plat Proofs that are sitting in dealers cases getting an occasional question, but no buyers at the current inflated levels)
Why? Just like many have suspected. Thousands of collector dollars being thrown at the UHR. Will this thing ever be worth more than melt? Probably not. But big $$$ are being thrown at it, much of the money that would have otherwise found it's way into plat proofs, etc. >>
i agree that UHR will settle down and but i don't know about the $50 buffalo, that is looking like it will have the lowest mintage of all gold coins.
<< <i>those unc buffs will eventually higher, but for now that have plateau'd >>
i'm still hoping to pick up an UHR later in the year,but for this coin i'll leave it in the mint package. i think over time it will do better to leave it ungraded
<< <i>if the plat unc mintages show sub 2006-w like I believe they will. >>
Good luck with that.
But if they make the coins again for 2010 and that mintage comes in under 2009 then it will probably be melt is my guess for 2009.
PS With all of the hoopla over this coin though I will be surprised if they make less than 30,000 at a minimum for 2009. It won't be nearly as rare as some of the recent one ounce gold coins, even the reverse proof barely sells for what it is worth compared to what it was minted at these days.
<< <i>those unc buffs will eventually higher, but for now that have plateau'd >>
what dat mean in engrish??
So how many of you are going to cancel their orders?? Looks like it will not be in short supply (UNLESS the Mint just cannot fulfill all of the orders due to planchet supplies, the amount of time needed to mint these, etc.) Could still be interesting....
Looks like 10th Anniversary Platinum Eagle set all over again................
<< <i>The thing about the UHR is nobody knows what the final mintage will be. If it is over 25,000 then I guess it will be closer to melt for those coins with a small premium. Even the high mintage 2006 buffalo $50 proof brings a premium though.
But if they make the coins again for 2010 and that mintage comes in under 2009 then it will probably be melt is my guess for 2009.
PS With all of the hoopla over this coin though I will be surprised if they make less than 30,000 at a minimum for 2009. It won't be nearly as rare as some of the recent one ounce gold coins, even the reverse proof barely sells for what it is worth compared to what it was minted at these days. >>
This will be a one year issue as gold. 2010 will bring a palladium coin.
That may be a lower mintage.
This year will be minted to demand and with 40000 already ordered it may be very high mintage.
Joe
"(4)
(A) Notwithstanding any other provision of law and subject to subparagraph (B), the Secretary of the Treasury may change the diameter, weight, or design of any coin minted under this subsection or the fineness of the gold in the alloy of any such coin if the Secretary determines that the specific diameter, weight, design, or fineness of gold which differs from that otherwise required by law is appropriate for such coin.
(B) The Secretary may not mint any coin with respect to which a determination has been made by the Secretary under subparagraph (A) before the end of the 30-day period beginning on the date a notice of such determination is published in the Federal Register.
(C) The Secretary may continue to mint and issue coins in accordance with the specifications contained in paragraphs (7), (8), (9), and (10) of subsection (a) and paragraph (1)(A) of this subsection at the same time the Secretary in minting and issuing other bullion and proof gold coins under this subsection in accordance with such program procedures and coin specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions as the Secretary, in the Secretary’s discretion, may prescribe from time to time. "
So while they may only do this coin for 2009 if it is very popular I don't see where it says they can't do it again for 2010. I think realistically the mint needs to offer better designs for the coins they sell at the high premiums over those that people buy from the dealer network. So perhaps the UHR will be a better coin than say the regular gold unc 1 ounce with the W eagle.
<< <i>I've seen one reference of over 40,000 UHR sold already.... and none ready to ship.
So how many of you are going to cancel their orders?? Looks like it will not be in short supply (UNLESS the Mint just cannot fulfill all of the orders due to planchet supplies, the amount of time needed to mint these, etc.) Could still be interesting.... >>
I saw this coin at the Balto show and just loved it. It is a literally stunning coin. I bought it with the full expectation that it will never be worth much more (if any) than spot, just because I love it. No plans to cancel. In fact, I got my father to order one so that I'll have one for both kids. I'll leave them in the OGP which looks great.
http://www.coinnews.net/tools/us-mint-collector-bullion-coin-prices-premiums-and-sales-figures/
Hey...what gives...the "gap" between my UHR coin and book seems to be expanding! Anyone else have a 14-day gap?
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 1 $1,189.00 $1,189.00 1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/06/2009.
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK 1 $0.00 $0.00 1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 02/20/2009.
From the link mentioned two posts back...basically I'm not seeing anything new in these numbers from what was previously known.
2008-W American Eagle Platinum Uncirculated
Sales Notes
1 ounce 1,905 Sold Out
1/2 ounce 1,257 Sold Out
1/4 ounce 1,736 Sold Out
1/10 ounce 2,465 Sold Out
4 coin set 2,158 Sold Out
2008-W American Eagle Platinum Proof
Sales Notes
1 ounce 2,432 Sold Out
1/2 ounce 1,056 Sold Out
1/4 ounce 1,293 Sold Out
1/10 ounce 3,052 Sold Out
4 coin set 2,598 Sold Out
<< <i>The thing about the UHR is nobody knows what the final mintage will be. If it is over 25,000 then I guess it will be closer to melt for those coins with a small premium. Even the high mintage 2006 buffalo $50 proof brings a premium though.
But if they make the coins again for 2010 and that mintage comes in under 2009 then it will probably be melt is my guess for 2009.
PS With all of the hoopla over this coin though I will be surprised if they make less than 30,000 at a minimum for 2009. It won't be nearly as rare as some of the recent one ounce gold coins, even the reverse proof barely sells for what it is worth compared to what it was minted at these days. >>
What are the gold reverse proofs going for? Figure in 06 3 ounces in the set at $2610., avg's to 870 a piece, shirley they are bringing in more than that?
<< <i>shirley they are bringing in more than that? >>
DONT CALL ME SHIRLEY!
Just checking from the prior week no numbers with asterisks changed so that could mean the numbers are final. It appears 2006 w unc will be the kings.
PS Good news for the proof plats as they also have asterisks. I still think they have to adjust some coins a small amount eventually, but probably not the amount some here are praying for. That adjustment may not happen for a couple of months though well after these numbers are no longer released.
Just thinking out loud...but the "*" could also mean that numbers are simply not final...without indicating how far off they might ultimately turn out to be.
the * just means no longer available.
if the plat unc mintages show sub 2006-w like I believe they will.......they will be the next hot thing. How hot? Who knows.
Mid-January has become end of January, still no change.
Is there a new deadline for the 1,000+ reduction in 2008 plat unc numbers?
<< <i>
the * just means no longer available. >>
It shows the buffalo unc fractionals as not having asterisks and they are not available. Asterisks were also added much later than not available for some options.
So it would be strange to not put asterisks on the unc buffaloes if all it means is they are not available.
<< <i>No change in numbers, also asterisks added to the buffalo proof.
Just checking from the prior week no numbers with asterisks changed so that could mean the numbers are final. It appears 2006 w unc will be the kings.
PS Good news for the proof plats as they also have asterisks. I still think they have to adjust some coins a small amount eventually, but probably not the amount some here are praying for. That adjustment may not happen for a couple of months though well after these numbers are no longer released. >>
What do the asterisks indicate? Thanks. (Edited: I see the answer in another post. Oops.)
<< <i>I sent in an a$$load of 2006 w to Kitco when platinum was going for $2200 an ounce. How doe s that figure into the royal lineage? in terms of raw numbers of available coins, the 2006 -w will always be the kings. >>
Coinhog, can you please quantify the number in an "a$$load"?
Ren(W) >>
In that particular case it was 11 one ounce pieces if chit in that a$$load