@Basebal21 said:
Its not that hard to be undefeated when Ohio State is the only real game on the schedule. Softest number 1 schedule of all time
Because they got rid of the divisions. Any other year, Indiana had Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan on their schedule. Its also not their fault that Michigan, Washington, and UCLA are all down this year.
If Indiana loses to Ohio State and beats Purdue the following week, they will finish the regular season with one loss, and will be in the playoffs.
Any other year Indiana didnt matter. Indiana isnt that good either theyve played no one, and Michigan fell off a cliff. If Indiana makes the playoffs with a loss to Ohio State the committee is a joke. Theres no argument for Indiana over actually elite teams that played each other multiple times
Thankfully BYU lost to Kansas so the Big 12 will be a 1 team playoff team now
Wouldnt be a joke if Indiana gets in with one loss. Texas is in the top 5 with one loss and they have zero good wins.
Penn State and Indiana have no good wins. Texas has good wins just not marquee ones.
Indianas best win is Michigan that they barely won who Texas dominated. Its a joke that Indiana is even in the conversation for having one of the weakest schedules in the country
@Basebal21 said:
Its not that hard to be undefeated when Ohio State is the only real game on the schedule. Softest number 1 schedule of all time
Because they got rid of the divisions. Any other year, Indiana had Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan on their schedule. Its also not their fault that Michigan, Washington, and UCLA are all down this year.
If Indiana loses to Ohio State and beats Purdue the following week, they will finish the regular season with one loss, and will be in the playoffs.
Any other year Indiana didnt matter. Indiana isnt that good either theyve played no one, and Michigan fell off a cliff. If Indiana makes the playoffs with a loss to Ohio State the committee is a joke. Theres no argument for Indiana over actually elite teams that played each other multiple times
Thankfully BYU lost to Kansas so the Big 12 will be a 1 team playoff team now
Wouldnt be a joke if Indiana gets in with one loss. Texas is in the top 5 with one loss and they have zero good wins.
Penn State and Indiana have no good wins. Texas has good wins just not marquee ones.
Indianas best win is Michigan that they barely won who Texas dominated. Its a joke that Indiana is even in the conversation for having one of the weakest schedules in the country
If Texas have good wins then Penn State and Indiana have good wins. Texas best win is against Vanderbilt, and they struggled against Arkansas today. Indiana's best win is Nebraska. Nebraska has a good win over Colorado.
@Basebal21 said:
Its not that hard to be undefeated when Ohio State is the only real game on the schedule. Softest number 1 schedule of all time
Because they got rid of the divisions. Any other year, Indiana had Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan on their schedule. Its also not their fault that Michigan, Washington, and UCLA are all down this year.
If Indiana loses to Ohio State and beats Purdue the following week, they will finish the regular season with one loss, and will be in the playoffs.
Any other year Indiana didnt matter. Indiana isnt that good either theyve played no one, and Michigan fell off a cliff. If Indiana makes the playoffs with a loss to Ohio State the committee is a joke. Theres no argument for Indiana over actually elite teams that played each other multiple times
Thankfully BYU lost to Kansas so the Big 12 will be a 1 team playoff team now
Wouldnt be a joke if Indiana gets in with one loss. Texas is in the top 5 with one loss and they have zero good wins.
Penn State and Indiana have no good wins. Texas has good wins just not marquee ones.
Indianas best win is Michigan that they barely won who Texas dominated. Its a joke that Indiana is even in the conversation for having one of the weakest schedules in the country
If Texas have good wins then Penn State and Indiana have good wins. Texas best win is against Vanderbilt, and they struggled against Arkansas today. Indiana's best win is Nebraska. Nebraska has a good win over Colorado.
Texas dominated Michigan which is a common opponent. Indiana barely beat them.
You just proved the point saying Indians best win is against Nebraska, thats not a good win at all
I understand that Indiana is suspect with such a meh schedule this season, but I'm not sure who goes ahead of them.
Georgia beat Tennessee, and lost to Alabama, who lost to Tennessee, who lost to Arkansas, who lost to Ole Miss, who lost to LSU, who lost to... Florida.
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@coinkat said:
Camp Randall is a tough place to play. Instead trashing Oregon, how about giving some credit to the Badgers?
Bama walked in their and absolutely pounded them. PSU didnt pound them, but they didnt have any issues either and were in firm control of their win.
Oregon deserves criticism for their struggles and is lucky that Wisconsin doesnt have a good QB
The Bama win vs Wisconsin is much less interesting as you continue to make it seem. Remember, the Badgers lost Van Dyke, for the season, on the first series. Everyone should know what Locke is capable of. They're still going to lose that game with Van Dyke behind center 95 times out of 100, but it would have been more competitive than it was.
Oregon certainly deserves criticism for almost laying an egg at Big Red, but, they also deserve credit for pulling out the tough wins that other teams haven't been able to.
@coinkat said:
Camp Randall is a tough place to play. Instead trashing Oregon, how about giving some credit to the Badgers?
Bama walked in their and absolutely pounded them. PSU didnt pound them, but they didnt have any issues either and were in firm control of their win.
Oregon deserves criticism for their struggles and is lucky that Wisconsin doesnt have a good QB
The Bama win vs Wisconsin is much less interesting as you continue to make it seem. Remember, the Badgers lost Van Dyke, for the season, on the first series. Everyone should know what Locke is capable of. They're still going to lose that game with Van Dyke behind center 95 times out of 100, but it would have been more competitive than it was.
Oregon certainly deserves criticism for almost laying an egg at Big Red, but, they also deserve credit for pulling out the tough wins that other teams haven't been able to.
The Bama win is much more significant to quality of play than you want to say it is. Bama wins that game 99 times out of 100 if not 999 out of a thousand.
Teams dont deserve credit for winning a game that they made close that should have never been close.
This current Wisconsin team is not a tough win. Oregon just made it look like one. They also lost to Southern Cal and Iowa both below average teams. Wisconsin best wins are Purdue, Rutgers and Northwestern who every one beats and might as well be FCS trash wins.
There are teams with not great records that are dangerous and can give elite teams a hard time, Wisconsin is not even close to being one of them.
@coinkat said:
Camp Randall is a tough place to play. Instead trashing Oregon, how about giving some credit to the Badgers?
Bama walked in their and absolutely pounded them. PSU didnt pound them, but they didnt have any issues either and were in firm control of their win.
Oregon deserves criticism for their struggles and is lucky that Wisconsin doesnt have a good QB
The Bama win vs Wisconsin is much less interesting as you continue to make it seem. Remember, the Badgers lost Van Dyke, for the season, on the first series. Everyone should know what Locke is capable of. They're still going to lose that game with Van Dyke behind center 95 times out of 100, but it would have been more competitive than it was.
Oregon certainly deserves criticism for almost laying an egg at Big Red, but, they also deserve credit for pulling out the tough wins that other teams haven't been able to.
The Bama win is much more significant to quality of play than you want to say it is. Bama wins that game 99 times out of 100 if not 999 out of a thousand.
Teams dont deserve credit for winning a game that they made close that should have never been close.
This current Wisconsin team is not a tough win. Oregon just made it look like one. They also lost to Southern Cal and Iowa both below average teams. Wisconsin best wins are Purdue, Rutgers and Northwestern who every one beats and might as well be FCS trash wins.
There are teams with not great records that are dangerous and can give elite teams a hard time, Wisconsin is not even close to being one of them.
I'm not saying Wisconsin is a dangerous football team. I stand by my statement that I think Wisconsin with Van Dyke beats Alabama 5 times out of 100.
I think Oregon is also happy that they are undefeated regardless whether they almost lost (to Boise St., OSU, and now the Badgers)... You don't seem to be aware of the delta in performance between Van Dyke and Locke... I don't blame you as only Badgers fans probably watch enough games to be aware.
It's an embarrassing win for Oregon, but it's still a win.
@coinkat said:
Camp Randall is a tough place to play. Instead trashing Oregon, how about giving some credit to the Badgers?
Bama walked in their and absolutely pounded them. PSU didnt pound them, but they didnt have any issues either and were in firm control of their win.
Oregon deserves criticism for their struggles and is lucky that Wisconsin doesnt have a good QB
The Bama win vs Wisconsin is much less interesting as you continue to make it seem. Remember, the Badgers lost Van Dyke, for the season, on the first series. Everyone should know what Locke is capable of. They're still going to lose that game with Van Dyke behind center 95 times out of 100, but it would have been more competitive than it was.
Oregon certainly deserves criticism for almost laying an egg at Big Red, but, they also deserve credit for pulling out the tough wins that other teams haven't been able to.
The Bama win is much more significant to quality of play than you want to say it is. Bama wins that game 99 times out of 100 if not 999 out of a thousand.
Teams dont deserve credit for winning a game that they made close that should have never been close.
This current Wisconsin team is not a tough win. Oregon just made it look like one. They also lost to Southern Cal and Iowa both below average teams. Wisconsin best wins are Purdue, Rutgers and Northwestern who every one beats and might as well be FCS trash wins.
There are teams with not great records that are dangerous and can give elite teams a hard time, Wisconsin is not even close to being one of them.
I'm not saying Wisconsin is a dangerous football team. I stand by my statement that I think Wisconsin with Van Dyke beats Alabama 5 times out of 100.
I think Oregon is also happy that they are undefeated regardless whether they almost lost (to Boise St., OSU, and now the Badgers)... You don't seem to be aware of the delta in performance between Van Dyke and Locke... I don't blame you as only Badgers fans probably watch enough games to be aware.
It's an embarrassing win for Oregon, but it's still a win.
Im well aware of who TVD is. He had a pretty good freshman year at Miami that got him over hyped and Miami then told him to transfer a couple years later because they wanted to upgrade which they did with Ward. Theres no Delta, Alpha, Omega, Beta etc between him and Locke, theyre comparable talents. TVD isnt a game changer or even a top 30-40 college QB.
The only games TVD played for Wisconsin were against Western Michigan and South Dakota and he wasnt even good in those. He has 30 games at Miami that show hes nothing special and they probably still lose to Oregon with him. They still lose to Bama at least 999 percent of the time with him.
A win is a win but the embarrassing part for Oregon wasnt the Wisconsin QB play it was that they were getting punched in the mouth on the lines showing the weak Pac 12 lines that have been a ting for a few years. Bama did the same thing and TVD wouldnt have changed anything.
Fickle had a magical season at Cinny with his two elite corners and got exposed in the playoffs against Bama. Wisconsin simply isnt a good team and Oregon isnt the world beaters theyre being made out to be. Wisconsin and Boise shouldnt have been dog fights for them if they were, especially Boise. The majority of the B!G has been down the last few years. Wisconsin was a team that could give top teams problems a few years ago but they arent anymore
@coinkat said:
Camp Randall is a tough place to play. Instead trashing Oregon, how about giving some credit to the Badgers?
Bama walked in their and absolutely pounded them. PSU didnt pound them, but they didnt have any issues either and were in firm control of their win.
Oregon deserves criticism for their struggles and is lucky that Wisconsin doesnt have a good QB
The Bama win vs Wisconsin is much less interesting as you continue to make it seem. Remember, the Badgers lost Van Dyke, for the season, on the first series. Everyone should know what Locke is capable of. They're still going to lose that game with Van Dyke behind center 95 times out of 100, but it would have been more competitive than it was.
Oregon certainly deserves criticism for almost laying an egg at Big Red, but, they also deserve credit for pulling out the tough wins that other teams haven't been able to.
The Bama win is much more significant to quality of play than you want to say it is. Bama wins that game 99 times out of 100 if not 999 out of a thousand.
Teams dont deserve credit for winning a game that they made close that should have never been close.
This current Wisconsin team is not a tough win. Oregon just made it look like one. They also lost to Southern Cal and Iowa both below average teams. Wisconsin best wins are Purdue, Rutgers and Northwestern who every one beats and might as well be FCS trash wins.
There are teams with not great records that are dangerous and can give elite teams a hard time, Wisconsin is not even close to being one of them.
I'm not saying Wisconsin is a dangerous football team. I stand by my statement that I think Wisconsin with Van Dyke beats Alabama 5 times out of 100.
I think Oregon is also happy that they are undefeated regardless whether they almost lost (to Boise St., OSU, and now the Badgers)... You don't seem to be aware of the delta in performance between Van Dyke and Locke... I don't blame you as only Badgers fans probably watch enough games to be aware.
It's an embarrassing win for Oregon, but it's still a win.
Im well aware of who TVD is. He had a pretty good freshman year at Miami that got him over hyped and Miami then told him to transfer a couple years later because they wanted to upgrade which they did with Ward. Theres no Delta, Alpha, Omega, Beta etc between him and Locke, theyre comparable talents. TVD isnt a game changer or even a top 30-40 college QB.
The only games TVD played for Wisconsin were against Western Michigan and South Dakota and he wasnt even good in those. He has 30 games at Miami that show hes nothing special and they probably still lose to Oregon with him. They still lose to Bama at least 999 percent of the time with him.
A win is a win but the embarrassing part for Oregon wasnt the Wisconsin QB play it was that they were getting punched in the mouth on the lines showing the weak Pac 12 lines that have been a ting for a few years. Bama did the same thing and TVD wouldnt have changed anything.
Fickle had a magical season at Cinny with his two elite corners and got exposed in the playoffs against Bama. Wisconsin simply isnt a good team and Oregon isnt the world beaters theyre being made out to be. Wisconsin and Boise shouldnt have been dog fights for them if they were, especially Boise. The majority of the B!G has been down the last few years. Wisconsin was a team that could give top teams problems a few years ago but they arent anymore
You just keep moving the goal posts.
I'm not saying Van Dyke is elite. I'm saying that there is a large delta in performance between Van Dyke and Locke. That has nothing to do with Alpha, Beta, or Omega which are not used to commonly refer to a difference in magnitude.
A team cannot lose more than 100% of their games. I still stand by my statement that Wisconsin, with Van Dyke, would beat Alabama 5 times out of 100. You can keep telling me you disagree, but it's pointless. I heard what you said and I am fine with your opinion being what it is - the world continues to turn.
"punched in the mouth on the lines". Not clear exactly what you're trying to say here. Oregon was getting punched in the mouth on the lines? Bama did the same thing? To Wisconsin. How this relates is not expressed in a useful manner. It doesn't sound like you even watched the game.
I never said Oregon was a "world beater". They have the ability to beat anyone, but they don't play consistently, in any part of their game, to be a dominant team in FBS. I don't know why you seem to think I'm saying they're the best team in the nation cause I'm not. Stop taking every comment to the extreme - it's tiresome... laughable, but tiresome.
@coinkat said:
Camp Randall is a tough place to play. Instead trashing Oregon, how about giving some credit to the Badgers?
Bama walked in their and absolutely pounded them. PSU didnt pound them, but they didnt have any issues either and were in firm control of their win.
Oregon deserves criticism for their struggles and is lucky that Wisconsin doesnt have a good QB
The Bama win vs Wisconsin is much less interesting as you continue to make it seem. Remember, the Badgers lost Van Dyke, for the season, on the first series. Everyone should know what Locke is capable of. They're still going to lose that game with Van Dyke behind center 95 times out of 100, but it would have been more competitive than it was.
Oregon certainly deserves criticism for almost laying an egg at Big Red, but, they also deserve credit for pulling out the tough wins that other teams haven't been able to.
The Bama win is much more significant to quality of play than you want to say it is. Bama wins that game 99 times out of 100 if not 999 out of a thousand.
Teams dont deserve credit for winning a game that they made close that should have never been close.
This current Wisconsin team is not a tough win. Oregon just made it look like one. They also lost to Southern Cal and Iowa both below average teams. Wisconsin best wins are Purdue, Rutgers and Northwestern who every one beats and might as well be FCS trash wins.
There are teams with not great records that are dangerous and can give elite teams a hard time, Wisconsin is not even close to being one of them.
I'm not saying Wisconsin is a dangerous football team. I stand by my statement that I think Wisconsin with Van Dyke beats Alabama 5 times out of 100.
I think Oregon is also happy that they are undefeated regardless whether they almost lost (to Boise St., OSU, and now the Badgers)... You don't seem to be aware of the delta in performance between Van Dyke and Locke... I don't blame you as only Badgers fans probably watch enough games to be aware.
It's an embarrassing win for Oregon, but it's still a win.
Im well aware of who TVD is. He had a pretty good freshman year at Miami that got him over hyped and Miami then told him to transfer a couple years later because they wanted to upgrade which they did with Ward. Theres no Delta, Alpha, Omega, Beta etc between him and Locke, theyre comparable talents. TVD isnt a game changer or even a top 30-40 college QB.
The only games TVD played for Wisconsin were against Western Michigan and South Dakota and he wasnt even good in those. He has 30 games at Miami that show hes nothing special and they probably still lose to Oregon with him. They still lose to Bama at least 999 percent of the time with him.
A win is a win but the embarrassing part for Oregon wasnt the Wisconsin QB play it was that they were getting punched in the mouth on the lines showing the weak Pac 12 lines that have been a ting for a few years. Bama did the same thing and TVD wouldnt have changed anything.
Fickle had a magical season at Cinny with his two elite corners and got exposed in the playoffs against Bama. Wisconsin simply isnt a good team and Oregon isnt the world beaters theyre being made out to be. Wisconsin and Boise shouldnt have been dog fights for them if they were, especially Boise. The majority of the B!G has been down the last few years. Wisconsin was a team that could give top teams problems a few years ago but they arent anymore
You just keep moving the goal posts.
I'm not saying Van Dyke is elite. I'm saying that there is a large delta in performance between Van Dyke and Locke. That has nothing to do with Alpha, Beta, or Omega which are not used to commonly refer to a difference in magnitude.
A team cannot lose more than 100% of their games. I still stand by my statement that Wisconsin, with Van Dyke, would beat Alabama 5 times out of 100. You can keep telling me you disagree, but it's pointless. I heard what you said and I am fine with your opinion being what it is - the world continues to turn.
"punched in the mouth on the lines". Not clear exactly what you're trying to say here. Oregon was getting punched in the mouth on the lines? Bama did the same thing? To Wisconsin. How this relates is not expressed in a useful manner. It doesn't sound like you even watched the game.
I never said Oregon was a "world beater". They have the ability to beat anyone, but they don't play consistently, in any part of their game, to be a dominant team in FBS. I don't know why you seem to think I'm saying they're the best team in the nation cause I'm not. Stop taking every comment to the extreme - it's tiresome... laughable, but tiresome.
I get that your intentions are to just try and discredit anything I post but if you dont know what punched in the mouth on the lines means you should really avoid football especially college football threads. Its a common way of describing one team dominating the other team on the lines.
Theres no goal posts to move. You keep trying to push some fallacy that somehow TVD would have been a significant upgrade when he flat out wouldnt have been. Wisconsin with TVD would not beat Bama 5 times out of 100 unless 4 of those times Bama had half their roster on the DL. TVD is not any better than Locke. TVD got benched in Miami for performance and was told to leave after the season
Alabama absolutely had their way punching Wisconsin in the mouth on the lines and there was nothing they could do to stop it. Wisconsin picked up a garbage time TD in the 3rd quarter to make the game look closer than it was and Bama just stopped playing for the last 20 minutes waiting for the game to end. Wisconsin controlled the lines against Oregon, but didnt have the skill players to take advantage of it and no TVD was not the missing link.
@bgr said:
I disagree with you regarding the difference between Van Dyke and Locke. There are throws Locke cannot make that Van Dyke can. You can’t accept that someone has a different opinion than you. You have to berate them or insult them. I find you to be a useful exercise in “dealing with difficult people” so I really do appreciate this back and forth. It’s not often that I come across such an inane mind with such a loquacious spirit. We will never know how 100 games in that same situation will play out. I’m at Alabama wins 95% of the time and you’re at Alabama wins 999% of the time. One of those estimates is ignorant.
I never said Alabama didn’t have their way with Wisconsin at the line… on both sides of the ball. I never said I don’t know what the colloquialism “punched in the mouth means” in this context. What I said was your comment wasn’t clear in how you were connecting dots between Oregon and Wisconsin and Alabama. I’m sure it’s clear to you and I’m sure you’ll simply insult me without explaining it further because that’s all you seem to do.
This is why you’re not married.
You should be looking yourself in the mirror while writing this nonsense. You consistently are talking down, getting upset and taking personal shots while all I am doing is talking sports and actually even being nice about it since I could run circles around you if I wanted to. What you have posted is nothing but a personal attack of nonsense from your hatred of me
Just to keep it sports related go on and explain the Delta airlines of 192 yards against Western Michigan for TVD or the 244 against South Dakota which isnt even a D1 team. He did nothing there just like when he was at Miami. Hes a 5th year starter just so you dont have to look him him up
@bgr said:
I disagree with you regarding the difference between Van Dyke and Locke. There are throws Locke cannot make that Van Dyke can. You can’t accept that someone has a different opinion than you. You have to berate them or insult them. I find you to be a useful exercise in “dealing with difficult people” so I really do appreciate this back and forth. It’s not often that I come across such an inane mind with such a loquacious spirit. We will never know how 100 games in that same situation will play out. I’m at Alabama wins 95% of the time and you’re at Alabama wins 999% of the time. One of those estimates is ignorant.
I never said Alabama didn’t have their way with Wisconsin at the line… on both sides of the ball. I never said I don’t know what the colloquialism “punched in the mouth means” in this context. What I said was your comment wasn’t clear in how you were connecting dots between Oregon and Wisconsin and Alabama. I’m sure it’s clear to you and I’m sure you’ll simply insult me without explaining it further because that’s all you seem to do.
This is why you’re not married.
You should be looking yourself in the mirror while writing this nonsense. You consistently are talking down, getting upset and taking personal shots while all I am doing is talking sports and actually even being nice about it since I could run circles around you if I wanted to. What you have posted is nothing but a personal attack of nonsense from your hatred of me
You are amazing at running in circles. I’m convinced.
And I always stare in the mirror while writing nonsense.
I don’t hate you. That is a strong emotion and we’re just not there as a couple.
@bgr said:
You are amazing at running in circles. I’m convinced.
And I always stare in the mirror while writing nonsense.
I don’t hate you. That is a strong emotion and we’re just not there as a couple.
This is why you’re not married.
Irs a shame you are derailing a college football thread over your personal hatred
I think that Wisconsin with Van Dyke would beat Alabama 5 times out of 100. That seems to be what bothered you enough to spiral out of control again.
That was never the sticking point of what was being said. You made it that when you couldnt defend Wisconsin anymore and started attacking me personally as usual and even made such a pathetic comment "This is why you’re not married." when you have no idea about my personal life which I keep private.
Again tell me how Van Dyke in his two awful games against no bodies is a game changer. You stated that only Wisconsin fans would knoe and didnt seem to realize he had started 30 games for Miami prior
@bgr said:
You are amazing at running in circles. I’m convinced.
And I always stare in the mirror while writing nonsense.
I don’t hate you. That is a strong emotion and we’re just not there as a couple.
This is why you’re not married.
Irs a shame you are derailing a college football thread over your personal hatred
I think that Wisconsin with Van Dyke would beat Alabama 5 times out of 100. That seems to be what bothered you enough to spiral out of control again.
That was never the sticking point of what was being said. You made it that when you couldnt defend Wisconsin anymore and started attacking me personally as usual and even made such a pathetic comment "This is why you’re not married." when you have no idea about my personal life which I keep private.
Again tell me how Van Dyke in his two awful games against no bodies is a game changer. You stated that only Wisconsin fans would knoe and didnt seem to realize he had started 30 games for Miami prior
Then what is the sticking point?
I still never said Van Dyke was great. He’s the QB for Wisconsin after all. But he’s so much better than Locke. I’m assuming that you don’t watch much Badgers football. Am I wrong?
I’ve seen Van Dyke’s tape. He’s so much better than Locke. Stop telling me he’s great or a game changer. You don’t need but a few bounces to go your way in college football and a team like Wisconsin could beat a team like Alabama. And if you disagree, fine with me, but stop telling me what I think. You’re almost always wrong about that.
@bgr said:
You are amazing at running in circles. I’m convinced.
And I always stare in the mirror while writing nonsense.
I don’t hate you. That is a strong emotion and we’re just not there as a couple.
This is why you’re not married.
Irs a shame you are derailing a college football thread over your personal hatred
I think that Wisconsin with Van Dyke would beat Alabama 5 times out of 100. That seems to be what bothered you enough to spiral out of control again.
That was never the sticking point of what was being said. You made it that when you couldnt defend Wisconsin anymore and started attacking me personally as usual and even made such a pathetic comment "This is why you’re not married." when you have no idea about my personal life which I keep private.
Again tell me how Van Dyke in his two awful games against no bodies is a game changer. You stated that only Wisconsin fans would knoe and didnt seem to realize he had started 30 games for Miami prior
Then what is the sticking point?
I still never said Van Dyke was great. He’s the QB for Wisconsin after all. But he’s so much better than Locke. I’m assuming that you don’t watch much Badgers football. Am I wrong?
I’ve seen Van Dyke’s tape. He’s so much better than Locke. Stop telling me he’s great or a game changer. You don’t need but a few bounces to go your way in college football and a team like Wisconsin could beat a team like Alabama. And if you disagree, fine with me, but stop telling me what I think. You’re almost always wrong about that.
A few bounces for Wisconsin to beat Bama, absolutely not
"This is why you’re not married."
Your most blatant personal attack on me lashing out at me
@bgr said:
You are amazing at running in circles. I’m convinced.
And I always stare in the mirror while writing nonsense.
I don’t hate you. That is a strong emotion and we’re just not there as a couple.
This is why you’re not married.
Irs a shame you are derailing a college football thread over your personal hatred
I think that Wisconsin with Van Dyke would beat Alabama 5 times out of 100. That seems to be what bothered you enough to spiral out of control again.
That was never the sticking point of what was being said. You made it that when you couldnt defend Wisconsin anymore and started attacking me personally as usual and even made such a pathetic comment "This is why you’re not married." when you have no idea about my personal life which I keep private.
Again tell me how Van Dyke in his two awful games against no bodies is a game changer. You stated that only Wisconsin fans would knoe and didnt seem to realize he had started 30 games for Miami prior
Then what is the sticking point?
I still never said Van Dyke was great. He’s the QB for Wisconsin after all. But he’s so much better than Locke. I’m assuming that you don’t watch much Badgers football. Am I wrong?
I’ve seen Van Dyke’s tape. He’s so much better than Locke. Stop telling me he’s great or a game changer. You don’t need but a few bounces to go your way in college football and a team like Wisconsin could beat a team like Alabama. And if you disagree, fine with me, but stop telling me what I think. You’re almost always wrong about that.
A few bounces for Wisconsin to beat Bama, absolutely not
"This is why you’re not married."
Your most blatant personal attack on me lashing out at me
:
Not sure how you’ can be so sure but I already said I don’t mind if you disagree.
As far as your marital status it’s a cold read. I’m a mentalist. You’re thinking of a number. It’s purple.
@coolstanley said:
Ohio State is favored by 11 points over Indiana ahead of the Buckeyes' third top-five matchup of the season next Saturday.
OSU should handle them easily. Indiana isnt an actual top 5 match up though and you know that
Disagree. They're one of only 3 unbeatens left.
There would be at least 10 unbeaten left if they got to play their schedule. OSU is their first and only real game of the season. Either way they have no business at 5 and should not have moved up for barely beating a bad Michigan team
@coolstanley said:
Ohio State is favored by 11 points over Indiana ahead of the Buckeyes' third top-five matchup of the season next Saturday.
OSU should handle them easily. Indiana isnt an actual top 5 match up though and you know that
Disagree. They're one of only 3 unbeatens left.
There would be at least 10 unbeaten left if they got to play their schedule. OSU is their first and only real game of the season. Either way they have no business at 5 and should not have moved up for barely beating a bad Michigan team
Disagree. Texas hasn't beat anyone and they're ranked higher.
@coolstanley said:
NCAA college football Strength of Record rankings.
Oregon
Georgia
Ohio State
Penn State
Texas
Indiana
Alabama
BYU
Miami
Tennessee
Texas AM
Ole Miss
Notre Dame
SMU
Boise State
Click the Strength of Schedule tab and Oregon is 43rd, Indiana is 103. Georgia and FL have the hardest schedules if your going off the ESPN rankings where that list came from
I dont care about strength of Schedule because its always inaccurate, because the sec teams are always overranked. For example, last week Missouri and LSU were ranked in the polls. This week they both dropped out.
If youre going to dismiss strength of schedule made by the same list of the strength of record showing the inaccuracies of it then you have to dismiss both of them.
LSU and Missou both deserved to be ranked. They both lost to tough teams and will be out now. Both would be 10 win teams at least with Indianas schedule
Burton is one of the best WRs in the country. Kelly should and will be fired at some point but if they had the joke of the Indiana schedule it wouldnt be an issue. Indiana's schedule is an absolute joke and has no business being where they are. Maybe the CFP rankings change that but I dont have faith in them
Strength of Record is based on outcomes - what has actually happened like a coin flip landing heads. Strength of Schedule is based on predictive analytics - half the time, about, this coin flip will land heads.
While neither is perfect, Strength of Record assesses reality, not desire.
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I told you months ago OSC will take home all the marbles their "D" is awesome
plus Howard is probably the best QB playing. Probably #1NFL draft pick.
While OSU is talented, Howard isnt remotely close to the best QB and theres a 0 percent chance hes the #1 pick. Hes not even a top 10 QB or a first rounder. Hes McCord 2.0 and even being drafted in the 2nd round would be shocking. Realistically hes not going to get drafted and if he does for some reason it will be at the end.
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Wisconsin is 1-6 against the SEC since 2007? You. Slay. Me!
Basebal guy is rarely correct with his stats.
Wisconsin beat Auburn in 2015, and beat LSU in 2016.
All three meetings with LSU were decided by 4 points or less.
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I told you months ago OSC will take home all the marbles their "D" is awesome
plus Howard is probably the best QB playing. Probably #1NFL draft pick.
While OSU is talented, Howard isnt remotely close to the best QB and theres a 0 percent chance hes the #1 pick. Hes not even a top 10 QB or a first rounder. Hes McCord 2.0 and even being drafted in the 2nd round would be shocking. Realistically hes not going to get drafted and if he does for some reason it will be at the end.
Howard currently has the 4th best QBR in the country. McCord is 32nd. But nice try.
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Penn State and Indiana have no good wins. Texas has good wins just not marquee ones.
Indianas best win is Michigan that they barely won who Texas dominated. Its a joke that Indiana is even in the conversation for having one of the weakest schedules in the country
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If Texas have good wins then Penn State and Indiana have good wins. Texas best win is against Vanderbilt, and they struggled against Arkansas today. Indiana's best win is Nebraska. Nebraska has a good win over Colorado.
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Texas dominated Michigan which is a common opponent. Indiana barely beat them.
You just proved the point saying Indians best win is against Nebraska, thats not a good win at all
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Camp Randall is a tough place to play. Instead trashing Oregon, how about giving some credit to the Badgers?
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I understand that Indiana is suspect with such a meh schedule this season, but I'm not sure who goes ahead of them.
Georgia beat Tennessee, and lost to Alabama, who lost to Tennessee, who lost to Arkansas, who lost to Ole Miss, who lost to LSU, who lost to... Florida.
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Bama walked in their and absolutely pounded them. PSU didnt pound them, but they didnt have any issues either and were in firm control of their win.
Oregon deserves criticism for their struggles and is lucky that Wisconsin doesnt have a good QB
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The Bama win vs Wisconsin is much less interesting as you continue to make it seem. Remember, the Badgers lost Van Dyke, for the season, on the first series. Everyone should know what Locke is capable of. They're still going to lose that game with Van Dyke behind center 95 times out of 100, but it would have been more competitive than it was.
Oregon certainly deserves criticism for almost laying an egg at Big Red, but, they also deserve credit for pulling out the tough wins that other teams haven't been able to.
The Bama win is much more significant to quality of play than you want to say it is. Bama wins that game 99 times out of 100 if not 999 out of a thousand.
Teams dont deserve credit for winning a game that they made close that should have never been close.
This current Wisconsin team is not a tough win. Oregon just made it look like one. They also lost to Southern Cal and Iowa both below average teams. Wisconsin best wins are Purdue, Rutgers and Northwestern who every one beats and might as well be FCS trash wins.
There are teams with not great records that are dangerous and can give elite teams a hard time, Wisconsin is not even close to being one of them.
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I'm not saying Wisconsin is a dangerous football team. I stand by my statement that I think Wisconsin with Van Dyke beats Alabama 5 times out of 100.
I think Oregon is also happy that they are undefeated regardless whether they almost lost (to Boise St., OSU, and now the Badgers)... You don't seem to be aware of the delta in performance between Van Dyke and Locke... I don't blame you as only Badgers fans probably watch enough games to be aware.
It's an embarrassing win for Oregon, but it's still a win.
Im well aware of who TVD is. He had a pretty good freshman year at Miami that got him over hyped and Miami then told him to transfer a couple years later because they wanted to upgrade which they did with Ward. Theres no Delta, Alpha, Omega, Beta etc between him and Locke, theyre comparable talents. TVD isnt a game changer or even a top 30-40 college QB.
The only games TVD played for Wisconsin were against Western Michigan and South Dakota and he wasnt even good in those. He has 30 games at Miami that show hes nothing special and they probably still lose to Oregon with him. They still lose to Bama at least 999 percent of the time with him.
A win is a win but the embarrassing part for Oregon wasnt the Wisconsin QB play it was that they were getting punched in the mouth on the lines showing the weak Pac 12 lines that have been a ting for a few years. Bama did the same thing and TVD wouldnt have changed anything.
Fickle had a magical season at Cinny with his two elite corners and got exposed in the playoffs against Bama. Wisconsin simply isnt a good team and Oregon isnt the world beaters theyre being made out to be. Wisconsin and Boise shouldnt have been dog fights for them if they were, especially Boise. The majority of the B!G has been down the last few years. Wisconsin was a team that could give top teams problems a few years ago but they arent anymore
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Very common for good teams to play down to their lesser opponents. Georgia beat Kentucky by one point.
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You just keep moving the goal posts.
I'm not saying Van Dyke is elite. I'm saying that there is a large delta in performance between Van Dyke and Locke. That has nothing to do with Alpha, Beta, or Omega which are not used to commonly refer to a difference in magnitude.
A team cannot lose more than 100% of their games. I still stand by my statement that Wisconsin, with Van Dyke, would beat Alabama 5 times out of 100. You can keep telling me you disagree, but it's pointless. I heard what you said and I am fine with your opinion being what it is - the world continues to turn.
"punched in the mouth on the lines". Not clear exactly what you're trying to say here. Oregon was getting punched in the mouth on the lines? Bama did the same thing? To Wisconsin. How this relates is not expressed in a useful manner. It doesn't sound like you even watched the game.
I never said Oregon was a "world beater". They have the ability to beat anyone, but they don't play consistently, in any part of their game, to be a dominant team in FBS. I don't know why you seem to think I'm saying they're the best team in the nation cause I'm not. Stop taking every comment to the extreme - it's tiresome... laughable, but tiresome.
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Kentucky beat Ole Piss, then Ole Piss beat Georgia.
The Bama fans that traveled to Camp Randall said the Badger fans were very nice, got treated well.
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I get that your intentions are to just try and discredit anything I post but if you dont know what punched in the mouth on the lines means you should really avoid football especially college football threads. Its a common way of describing one team dominating the other team on the lines.
Theres no goal posts to move. You keep trying to push some fallacy that somehow TVD would have been a significant upgrade when he flat out wouldnt have been. Wisconsin with TVD would not beat Bama 5 times out of 100 unless 4 of those times Bama had half their roster on the DL. TVD is not any better than Locke. TVD got benched in Miami for performance and was told to leave after the season
Alabama absolutely had their way punching Wisconsin in the mouth on the lines and there was nothing they could do to stop it. Wisconsin picked up a garbage time TD in the 3rd quarter to make the game look closer than it was and Bama just stopped playing for the last 20 minutes waiting for the game to end. Wisconsin controlled the lines against Oregon, but didnt have the skill players to take advantage of it and no TVD was not the missing link.
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Following in the footsteps of everyone scared to fire the HC Wisconsin has fired their OC
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You should be looking yourself in the mirror while writing this nonsense. You consistently are talking down, getting upset and taking personal shots while all I am doing is talking sports and actually even being nice about it since I could run circles around you if I wanted to. What you have posted is nothing but a personal attack of nonsense from your hatred of me
Just to keep it sports related go on and explain the Delta airlines of 192 yards against Western Michigan for TVD or the 244 against South Dakota which isnt even a D1 team. He did nothing there just like when he was at Miami. Hes a 5th year starter just so you dont have to look him him up
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You are amazing at running in circles. I’m convinced.
And I always stare in the mirror while writing nonsense.
I don’t hate you. That is a strong emotion and we’re just not there as a couple.
Irs a shame you are derailing a college football thread over your personal hatred
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I think that Wisconsin with Van Dyke would beat Alabama 5 times out of 100. That seems to be what bothered you enough to spiral out of control again.
That was never the sticking point of what was being said. You made it that when you couldnt defend Wisconsin anymore and started attacking me personally as usual and even made such a pathetic comment "This is why you’re not married." when you have no idea about my personal life which I keep private.
Again tell me how Van Dyke in his two awful games against no bodies is a game changer. You stated that only Wisconsin fans would knoe and didnt seem to realize he had started 30 games for Miami prior
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Then what is the sticking point?
I still never said Van Dyke was great. He’s the QB for Wisconsin after all. But he’s so much better than Locke. I’m assuming that you don’t watch much Badgers football. Am I wrong?
I’ve seen Van Dyke’s tape. He’s so much better than Locke. Stop telling me he’s great or a game changer. You don’t need but a few bounces to go your way in college football and a team like Wisconsin could beat a team like Alabama. And if you disagree, fine with me, but stop telling me what I think. You’re almost always wrong about that.
Interesting stat. Iowa beat Wisconsin by the same exact score as Alabama did 42-10.
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A few bounces for Wisconsin to beat Bama, absolutely not
"This is why you’re not married."
Your most blatant personal attack on me lashing out at me
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Iowa isnt great either but does prove the point for sure about Wisconsin
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Not sure how you’ can be so sure but I already said I don’t mind if you disagree.
As far as your marital status it’s a cold read. I’m a mentalist. You’re thinking of a number. It’s purple.
AP top ten. ND all the way up to #6.
1 OREGON
2 OHIO STATE
3 TEXAS
4 PENN STATE
5 INDIANA
6 NOTRE DAME
7 ALABAMA
8 GEORGIA
9 OLE MISS
10 MIAMI (FL)
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Ohio State is favored by 11 points over Indiana ahead of the Buckeyes' third top-five matchup of the season next Saturday.
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OSU should handle them easily. Indiana isnt an actual top 5 match up though and you know that
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Disagree. They're one of only 3 unbeatens left.
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There would be at least 10 unbeaten left if they got to play their schedule. OSU is their first and only real game of the season. Either way they have no business at 5 and should not have moved up for barely beating a bad Michigan team
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Disagree. Texas hasn't beat anyone and they're ranked higher.
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NCAA college football Strength of Record rankings.
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Click the Strength of Schedule tab and Oregon is 43rd, Indiana is 103. Georgia and FL have the hardest schedules if your going off the ESPN rankings where that list came from
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I dont care about strength of Schedule because its always inaccurate, because the sec teams are always overranked. For example, last week Missouri and LSU were ranked in the polls. This week they both dropped out.
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If youre going to dismiss strength of schedule made by the same list of the strength of record showing the inaccuracies of it then you have to dismiss both of them.
LSU and Missou both deserved to be ranked. They both lost to tough teams and will be out now. Both would be 10 win teams at least with Indianas schedule
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I doubt they would have 10 wins. LSU lost to USC, and Missouri's offense isn't very good.
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Burton is one of the best WRs in the country. Kelly should and will be fired at some point but if they had the joke of the Indiana schedule it wouldnt be an issue. Indiana's schedule is an absolute joke and has no business being where they are. Maybe the CFP rankings change that but I dont have faith in them
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Indiana coach just got a new 8 year contract worth 9 million a year. Not bad for a joke schedule.
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Hes a good coach but they gave the extension way to early. Teams are scared to fire HCs this year and Indiana still hasnt beaten anyone yet.
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Strength of Record is based on outcomes - what has actually happened like a coin flip landing heads. Strength of Schedule is based on predictive analytics - half the time, about, this coin flip will land heads.
While neither is perfect, Strength of Record assesses reality, not desire.
The more you know.
Wisconsin is 1-6 against the SEC since 2007? You. Slay. Me!
I told you months ago OSC will take home all the marbles their "D" is awesome
plus Howard is probably the best QB playing. Probably #1NFL draft pick.
From the Sugar Bowl a couple of years ago. Bama 45 - KSU 20.
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While OSU is talented, Howard isnt remotely close to the best QB and theres a 0 percent chance hes the #1 pick. Hes not even a top 10 QB or a first rounder. Hes McCord 2.0 and even being drafted in the 2nd round would be shocking. Realistically hes not going to get drafted and if he does for some reason it will be at the end.
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Basebal guy is rarely correct with his stats.
Wisconsin beat Auburn in 2015, and beat LSU in 2016.
All three meetings with LSU were decided by 4 points or less.
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Howard currently has the 4th best QBR in the country. McCord is 32nd. But nice try.
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Also a couple of years ago, Quinshon Judkins had his way against the Tide defense rushing for 135 yards and 2 TD's.
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