@fergie23 said:
It is funny how CoolStanley would rail about SEC polling bias when the top two SEC teams were 1 and 2 even after one of them had a loss to the other, yet sees no issues when the same thing happens with two B10 teams.
Please let us know who you think should be ranked 1 and 2?
Georgia should have been 2 and its not even debatable. Doesnt matter though top 4 will be conference champs but OSU being 2 does show a heave B!G bias with the voters.
Funniest part is the Michigan AD is the head of the committee when theyre facing countless cheating penalties the NCAA is to scared to actually do
@Basebal21 said:
Georgia should have been 2 and its not even debatable. Doesnt matter though top 4 will be conference champs but OSU being 2 does show a heave B!G bias with the voters.
Funniest part is the Michigan AD is the head of the committee when theyre facing countless cheating penalties the NCAA is to scared to actually do
ESPN analyst Sam Acho stated on championship live yesterday that he agreed with the committee that Ohio State belongs at #2. Acho was a standout at Texas. The committee chairman stated that you are splitting hairs between Ohio State and Georgia. Georgia's best win was against #5, Ohio State's best win was against #6. He said the committee members put Ohio State ahead of Georgia is because the Buckeyes have a better loss. A one point loss to #1. While Georgia lost to #11. To think Georgia should be #2 and not debatable is nonsense.
@Basebal21 said:
Georgia should have been 2 and its not even debatable. Doesnt matter though top 4 will be conference champs but OSU being 2 does show a heave B!G bias with the voters.
Funniest part is the Michigan AD is the head of the committee when theyre facing countless cheating penalties the NCAA is to scared to actually do
ESPN analyst Sam Acho stated on championship live yesterday that he agreed with the committee that Ohio State belongs at #2. Acho was a standout at Texas. The committee chairman stated that you are splitting hairs between Ohio State and Georgia. Georgia's best win was against #5, Ohio State's best win was against #6. He said the committee members put Ohio State ahead of Georgia is because the Buckeyes have a better loss. A one point loss to #1. While Georgia lost to #11. To think Georgia should be #2 and not debatable is nonsense.
Acho also went on to say that Ohio State could've beat Oregon if it weren't for that awful 12 man penalty that has since been revoked.
Yes sir, OSU is for real. I think they'll be one of the final 4 teams.
IF they had an extra timeout against Oregon, they would have beat the Ducks and be ranked #1 right now.....
@Basebal21 said:
Georgia should have been 2 and its not even debatable. Doesnt matter though top 4 will be conference champs but OSU being 2 does show a heave B!G bias with the voters.
Funniest part is the Michigan AD is the head of the committee when theyre facing countless cheating penalties the NCAA is to scared to actually do
ESPN analyst Sam Acho stated on championship live yesterday that he agreed with the committee that Ohio State belongs at #2. Acho was a standout at Texas. The committee chairman stated that you are splitting hairs between Ohio State and Georgia. Georgia's best win was against #5, Ohio State's best win was against #6. He said the committee members put Ohio State ahead of Georgia is because the Buckeyes have a better loss. A one point loss to #1. While Georgia lost to #11. To think Georgia should be #2 and not debatable is nonsense.
The committee put OSU at 3 because it has more B!G people on it and the chairman is from the B!G. Georgia's schedule has been significantly harder and their wins significantly better than OSUs and it not that close. PSU at 6 is a joke too
FL AD basically put his job on the line backing Nappier saying he wont be fired. Now when Nappier does eventually get fired in a year or two the AD will likely be fired as well
Please let us know who you think should be ranked 1 and 2?
I don't actually care who is #1 and #2. In the CFP environment it makes no difference whatsoever.
I am simply pointing out how inconsistent you are. As well as how wrong you are and have been about SEC bias in the polls. The only reason you are not bellyaching about the current #1 and #2 being from the same conference after having played each other is because they are B10 teams.
This season, we will finally get a chance to see the top B10 and SEC teams playing in meaningful games after the regular season is over. It will definitely end all the nonsense about comparing meaningless bowl game records between conferences where the strength of the competition or the players choosing to sit out to protect their draft status is not considered.
@Basebal21 said:
Georgia should have been 2 and its not even debatable. Doesnt matter though top 4 will be conference champs but OSU being 2 does show a heave B!G bias with the voters.
Funniest part is the Michigan AD is the head of the committee when theyre facing countless cheating penalties the NCAA is to scared to actually do
ESPN analyst Sam Acho stated on championship live yesterday that he agreed with the committee that Ohio State belongs at #2. Acho was a standout at Texas. The committee chairman stated that you are splitting hairs between Ohio State and Georgia. Georgia's best win was against #5, Ohio State's best win was against #6. He said the committee members put Ohio State ahead of Georgia is because the Buckeyes have a better loss. A one point loss to #1. While Georgia lost to #11. To think Georgia should be #2 and not debatable is nonsense.
The committee put OSU at 3 because it has more B!G people on it and the chairman is from the B!G. Georgia's schedule has been significantly harder and their wins significantly better than OSUs and it not that close. PSU at 6 is a joke too
This is just not accurate as you have no clue how the voting process works.
This is their recusal policy
''If a committee member or an immediate family member is (a) compensated by a school, (b) provides professional services for a school or (c) is on the coaching staff or administrative staff or is a player at a school, that committee member will be recused. Recused members aren't allowed to vote for those teams and are allowed only to answer factual questions about that school. Recused committee members aren't allowed to be in the room during any deliberations about that team's selection or seeding. They also aren't allowed to participate in discussions about what bowl game that team might be assigned to.''
To suggest that the chairman, who happens to be a Michigan AD put Ohio State ahead of Georgia is quite hilarious.
@coolstanley said:
You're way off base. The SEC is still well represented as they have two teams ranked in the top 5.
This is why many people complain about sec bias. Look at the left side of the picture(first poll)
So your upset that in 2014 that Mississippi State who had Dak Prescott and had beaten when they played number 8 LSU, number 6 Texas A$M, and number 2 Auburn was ranked first in the first poll? Theres no bias there
Their ranking dropped from a lost to Bama who at the time of the game was number 4 later in the season and then a loss to a ranked Ole Miss team
This might be the worst argument ever for SEC bias in the polls when clear B!G bias has been in the polls the last 2 years
@burghman said:
Nice to see Miami finally lose one, but the ACC will still end up with a top 4 slot so not sure how much it really matters.
Could easily be the difference between them getting `1 team in or 2 for the playoffs. If an undefeated Miami and SMU played in the conference title game and SMU won theyd both be in, now if SMU wins Miami should be be out. SMU will likely win out the rest of the regular season and face either Miami or Clemson if Clemson doesnt lose to VT today. Clemson would also be out if they dont win the title and SMU likely wont make it either if they dont win the title
@Basebal21 said:
Georgia should have been 2 and its not even debatable. Doesnt matter though top 4 will be conference champs but OSU being 2 does show a heave B!G bias with the voters.
Funniest part is the Michigan AD is the head of the committee when theyre facing countless cheating penalties the NCAA is to scared to actually do
ESPN analyst Sam Acho stated on championship live yesterday that he agreed with the committee that Ohio State belongs at #2. Acho was a standout at Texas. The committee chairman stated that you are splitting hairs between Ohio State and Georgia. Georgia's best win was against #5, Ohio State's best win was against #6. He said the committee members put Ohio State ahead of Georgia is because the Buckeyes have a better loss. A one point loss to #1. While Georgia lost to #11. To think Georgia should be #2 and not debatable is nonsense.
The committee put OSU at 3 because it has more B!G people on it and the chairman is from the B!G. Georgia's schedule has been significantly harder and their wins significantly better than OSUs and it not that close. PSU at 6 is a joke too
@Basebal21 said:
Georgia should have been 2 and its not even debatable. Doesnt matter though top 4 will be conference champs but OSU being 2 does show a heave B!G bias with the voters.
Funniest part is the Michigan AD is the head of the committee when theyre facing countless cheating penalties the NCAA is to scared to actually do
ESPN analyst Sam Acho stated on championship live yesterday that he agreed with the committee that Ohio State belongs at #2. Acho was a standout at Texas. The committee chairman stated that you are splitting hairs between Ohio State and Georgia. Georgia's best win was against #5, Ohio State's best win was against #6. He said the committee members put Ohio State ahead of Georgia is because the Buckeyes have a better loss. A one point loss to #1. While Georgia lost to #11. To think Georgia should be #2 and not debatable is nonsense.
The committee put OSU at 3 because it has more B!G people on it and the chairman is from the B!G. Georgia's schedule has been significantly harder and their wins significantly better than OSUs and it not that close. PSU at 6 is a joke too
This aged well.
Yes it did. Its not my fault if people dont understand how elite Ole Miss D line is that leads the country yes the country in sacks. Ole Miss had problems when their O line couldnt protect Dart
Its not all his fault. The OC isnt doing him any favors and GA is second in the country in dropped passes. But yea hes played his way out of the first round
Not sure how much play this has gotten in SEC circles, but it’s been talked about a lot in PSU land. SEC teams might prefer being 3rd in the conference at this point so they can avoid the championship game. The loser of that game might very well have 3 losses, while the 3rd place team ends the season with 2. Will the CFP committee reward a 3 loss team for making the conference championship game, or go with the 2 loss team that didn’t? 3 losses should be disqualifying in most years (unless a conference champion has 3 losses, of course).
Hypothetical… PSU could finish with 1 loss and miss out on the conference championship game. If OSU makes the game and loses a second game, PSU is potentially seeded higher and hosting while OSU may have to travel.
@Basebal21 said:
Georgia should have been 2 and its not even debatable. Doesnt matter though top 4 will be conference champs but OSU being 2 does show a heave B!G bias with the voters.
Funniest part is the Michigan AD is the head of the committee when theyre facing countless cheating penalties the NCAA is to scared to actually do
ESPN analyst Sam Acho stated on championship live yesterday that he agreed with the committee that Ohio State belongs at #2. Acho was a standout at Texas. The committee chairman stated that you are splitting hairs between Ohio State and Georgia. Georgia's best win was against #5, Ohio State's best win was against #6. He said the committee members put Ohio State ahead of Georgia is because the Buckeyes have a better loss. A one point loss to #1. While Georgia lost to #11. To think Georgia should be #2 and not debatable is nonsense.
The committee put OSU at 3 because it has more B!G people on it and the chairman is from the B!G. Georgia's schedule has been significantly harder and their wins significantly better than OSUs and it not that close. PSU at 6 is a joke too
This aged well.
Yes it did. Its not my fault if people dont understand how elite Ole Miss D line is that leads the country yes the country in sacks. Ole Miss had problems when their O line couldnt protect Dart
That's pretty incredible. Boise State has the leading rusher in the country in rushing yards and all purpose yards. UNLV might have the best special teams unit in the country. THE COUNTRY! THIS COUNTRY.
I guess OSU fans don't have to feel bad about the loss to Oregon. I mean they are first in the country in completion percentage. In the entire country. Let that sink in. The Country.
@Basebal21 said:
Georgia should have been 2 and its not even debatable. Doesnt matter though top 4 will be conference champs but OSU being 2 does show a heave B!G bias with the voters.
Funniest part is the Michigan AD is the head of the committee when theyre facing countless cheating penalties the NCAA is to scared to actually do
ESPN analyst Sam Acho stated on championship live yesterday that he agreed with the committee that Ohio State belongs at #2. Acho was a standout at Texas. The committee chairman stated that you are splitting hairs between Ohio State and Georgia. Georgia's best win was against #5, Ohio State's best win was against #6. He said the committee members put Ohio State ahead of Georgia is because the Buckeyes have a better loss. A one point loss to #1. While Georgia lost to #11. To think Georgia should be #2 and not debatable is nonsense.
The committee put OSU at 3 because it has more B!G people on it and the chairman is from the B!G. Georgia's schedule has been significantly harder and their wins significantly better than OSUs and it not that close. PSU at 6 is a joke too
This aged well.
Yes it did. Its not my fault if people dont understand how elite Ole Miss D line is that leads the country yes the country in sacks. Ole Miss had problems when their O line couldnt protect Dart
That's pretty incredible. Boise State has the leading rusher in the country in rushing yards and all purpose yards. UNLV might have the best special teams unit in the country. THE COUNTRY! THIS COUNTRY.
I guess OSU fans don't have to feel bad about the loss to Oregon. I mean they are first in the country in completion percentage. In the entire country. Let that sink in. The Country.
Moutain West football compared to SEC football? You cant be serious
@burghman said:
Not sure how much play this has gotten in SEC circles, but it’s been talked about a lot in PSU land. SEC teams might prefer being 3rd in the conference at this point so they can avoid the championship game. The loser of that game might very well have 3 losses, while the 3rd place team ends the season with 2. Will the CFP committee reward a 3 loss team for making the conference championship game, or go with the 2 loss team that didn’t? 3 losses should be disqualifying in most years (unless a conference champion has 3 losses, of course).
Hypothetical… PSU could finish with 1 loss and miss out on the conference championship game. If OSU makes the game and loses a second game, PSU is potentially seeded higher and hosting while OSU may have to travel.
No ones tanking but the number 5 spot is arguably the best spot. You get a first round home game against what should be the G5 champ but actually might be the ACC champ at this rate. Second round they would get the number 4 team which will be the ACC or Big 12 champ and can get to the third round with very winnable games. Theres going to be better teams in the 6-11 range than the ones that get the 3rd or 4th spot
@Basebal21 said:
Georgia should have been 2 and its not even debatable. Doesnt matter though top 4 will be conference champs but OSU being 2 does show a heave B!G bias with the voters.
Funniest part is the Michigan AD is the head of the committee when theyre facing countless cheating penalties the NCAA is to scared to actually do
ESPN analyst Sam Acho stated on championship live yesterday that he agreed with the committee that Ohio State belongs at #2. Acho was a standout at Texas. The committee chairman stated that you are splitting hairs between Ohio State and Georgia. Georgia's best win was against #5, Ohio State's best win was against #6. He said the committee members put Ohio State ahead of Georgia is because the Buckeyes have a better loss. A one point loss to #1. While Georgia lost to #11. To think Georgia should be #2 and not debatable is nonsense.
The committee put OSU at 3 because it has more B!G people on it and the chairman is from the B!G. Georgia's schedule has been significantly harder and their wins significantly better than OSUs and it not that close. PSU at 6 is a joke too
This aged well.
Yes it did. Its not my fault if people dont understand how elite Ole Miss D line is that leads the country yes the country in sacks. Ole Miss had problems when their O line couldnt protect Dart
That's pretty incredible. Boise State has the leading rusher in the country in rushing yards and all purpose yards. UNLV might have the best special teams unit in the country. THE COUNTRY! THIS COUNTRY.
I guess OSU fans don't have to feel bad about the loss to Oregon. I mean they are first in the country in completion percentage. In the entire country. Let that sink in. The Country.
SEC guy - ''2 or 3 loss sec teams means they beating up on each other.'' 2-3 loss teams in other conferences means they arn't any good.'''
@Basebal21 said:
Georgia should have been 2 and its not even debatable. Doesnt matter though top 4 will be conference champs but OSU being 2 does show a heave B!G bias with the voters.
Funniest part is the Michigan AD is the head of the committee when theyre facing countless cheating penalties the NCAA is to scared to actually do
ESPN analyst Sam Acho stated on championship live yesterday that he agreed with the committee that Ohio State belongs at #2. Acho was a standout at Texas. The committee chairman stated that you are splitting hairs between Ohio State and Georgia. Georgia's best win was against #5, Ohio State's best win was against #6. He said the committee members put Ohio State ahead of Georgia is because the Buckeyes have a better loss. A one point loss to #1. While Georgia lost to #11. To think Georgia should be #2 and not debatable is nonsense.
The committee put OSU at 3 because it has more B!G people on it and the chairman is from the B!G. Georgia's schedule has been significantly harder and their wins significantly better than OSUs and it not that close. PSU at 6 is a joke too
This aged well.
Yes it did. Its not my fault if people dont understand how elite Ole Miss D line is that leads the country yes the country in sacks. Ole Miss had problems when their O line couldnt protect Dart
That's pretty incredible. Boise State has the leading rusher in the country in rushing yards and all purpose yards. UNLV might have the best special teams unit in the country. THE COUNTRY! THIS COUNTRY.
I guess OSU fans don't have to feel bad about the loss to Oregon. I mean they are first in the country in completion percentage. In the entire country. Let that sink in. The Country.
Moutain West football compared to SEC football? You cant be serious
My point was... who cares if Ole Miss (just their defensive line apparently) is leading the country (might as well be the universe) in sacks.
@Basebal21 said:
Georgia should have been 2 and its not even debatable. Doesnt matter though top 4 will be conference champs but OSU being 2 does show a heave B!G bias with the voters.
Funniest part is the Michigan AD is the head of the committee when theyre facing countless cheating penalties the NCAA is to scared to actually do
ESPN analyst Sam Acho stated on championship live yesterday that he agreed with the committee that Ohio State belongs at #2. Acho was a standout at Texas. The committee chairman stated that you are splitting hairs between Ohio State and Georgia. Georgia's best win was against #5, Ohio State's best win was against #6. He said the committee members put Ohio State ahead of Georgia is because the Buckeyes have a better loss. A one point loss to #1. While Georgia lost to #11. To think Georgia should be #2 and not debatable is nonsense.
The committee put OSU at 3 because it has more B!G people on it and the chairman is from the B!G. Georgia's schedule has been significantly harder and their wins significantly better than OSUs and it not that close. PSU at 6 is a joke too
This aged well.
Yes it did. Its not my fault if people dont understand how elite Ole Miss D line is that leads the country yes the country in sacks. Ole Miss had problems when their O line couldnt protect Dart
That's pretty incredible. Boise State has the leading rusher in the country in rushing yards and all purpose yards. UNLV might have the best special teams unit in the country. THE COUNTRY! THIS COUNTRY.
I guess OSU fans don't have to feel bad about the loss to Oregon. I mean they are first in the country in completion percentage. In the entire country. Let that sink in. The Country.
Moutain West football compared to SEC football? You cant be serious
My point was... who cares if Ole Miss (just their defensive line apparently) is leading the country (might as well be the universe) in sacks.
So who cares about the quality of a team? What kind of point is that, that you dont know about college football?
You must be Cajun if you think that's what I said.
OSU has 1 loss - vs. #1 Oregon.
Georgia D-A-W-G-S have 2 losses - vs. 11 (for now) Bama and vs. 16 (for now) Ole Miss.
Whether Ole Miss has the most sacks in the nation doesn't speak to the overall quality of their team in a comprehensive manner. It speaks only to a facet of a facet of their team. I doubt the Rebels are a top 10 defense overall.
Georgia has a top 3 schedule this year for sure but all your BS about how they're head and shoulders above OSU, or whoever you're looking to dawg any given week.... it's exposed as the ranting it is. Are you telling me that if a team stacks the box against Georgia that they can't do anything offensively because that's what it looked like - except for that Squirrel... he was making moves.
@bgr said:
You must be Cajun if you think that's what I said.
OSU has 1 loss - vs. #1 Oregon.
Georgia D-A-W-G-S have 2 losses - vs. 11 (for now) Bama and vs. 16 (for now) Ole Miss.
Whether Ole Miss has the most sacks in the nation doesn't speak to the overall quality of their team in a comprehensive manner. It speaks only to a facet of a facet of their team. I doubt the Rebels are a top 10 defense overall.
Georgia has a top 3 schedule this year for sure but all your BS about how they're head and shoulders above OSU, or whoever you're looking to dawg any given week.... it's exposed as the ranting it is. Are you telling me that if a team stacks the box against Georgia that they can't do anything offensively because that's what it looked like - except for that Squirrel... he was making moves.
LOL Ole miss is 4th in yards per play and only Indiana whose played no one and Tennessee and Texas are ahead of them. Ole Miss its okay if you need to wait until theyre in the NFL to learn about them. Im just laughing a lot at this point. Bless yuur heart
@bgr said:
You must be Cajun if you think that's what I said.
OSU has 1 loss - vs. #1 Oregon.
Georgia D-A-W-G-S have 2 losses - vs. 11 (for now) Bama and vs. 16 (for now) Ole Miss.
Whether Ole Miss has the most sacks in the nation doesn't speak to the overall quality of their team in a comprehensive manner. It speaks only to a facet of a facet of their team. I doubt the Rebels are a top 10 defense overall.
Georgia has a top 3 schedule this year for sure but all your BS about how they're head and shoulders above OSU, or whoever you're looking to dawg any given week.... it's exposed as the ranting it is. Are you telling me that if a team stacks the box against Georgia that they can't do anything offensively because that's what it looked like - except for that Squirrel... he was making moves.
LOL Ole miss is 4th in yards per play and only Indiana whose played no one and Tennessee and Texas are ahead of them. Ole Miss its okay if you need to wait until theyre in the NFL to learn about them. Im just laughing a lot at this point. Bless yuur heart
Their defense is ranked 4th? I bet that's news to them.
Yet Ole Miss lost to Kentucky who got trounced by Florida who’s beaten exactly no one. How all-universe can Ole Miss be? Stanley’s right - according to Basebal when SEC teams lose to each other, it’s because the entire league is phenomenal but when other conferences lose to each other it’s because every team sucks.
Total Defense... Not Top 10
Pass Defense... Not Top 10
Rush Defense... #1
Scoring Defense... #6
Red Zone Defense... #5
Third Down Defense.. #9
Sacks... #1 (Boise State is #2 - 42 - 38)
Ole Miss lost to Kentucky because of O line problems that they have improved and changed the offense to address. The simple fact is that the SEC beats other conferences constantly and puts the most players in the NFL every year. Until that changes than yes top teams can beat each other up. The B!G has a great TV contract where average teams get hyped up like USC and UCLA etc and the ACC and Big 12 just are not good this year. Theres undeniable facts about conference vs conference records and who gets drafted.
I get fans get upset about it thats the beauty of sports with fans cheering for their teams. There is no argument that the SEC hasnt been the best conference for the last 20 years
You lost me at UCLA. Absolutely no one has hyped them up in years.
And nice change of subject. We’re not talking about the Big 10, ACC, or any other conference. We’re talking about how you’ve hyped up just about every SEC team - Vandy, Kentucky, South Carolina (oh, sorry, “the real USC”), Ole Miss - probably everyone except Miss St and Fla at this point. They aren’t all great teams, regardless of what you say about them.
@burghman said:
Yet Ole Miss lost to Kentucky who got trounced by Florida who’s beaten exactly no one. How all-universe can Ole Miss be? Stanley’s right - according to Basebal when SEC teams lose to each other, it’s because the entire league is phenomenal but when other conferences lose to each other it’s because every team sucks.
I'm sure he will make up excuses on how a 4-5 BIG TEN team beat the #14 ranked SEC team this year.
I’m just reading up on Wikipedia on this “college football” thing which I didn’t know before.
I didn’t know it is referred to as “gridiron football” in a non-colloquial sense.
I didn’t know that college football was so long considered more prestigious than professional football.
Mob football sounds like the best game ever.
Walter Camp gave birth to American Football. The labor was strenuous and lasted 5 years. From the first games until it was significantly defined.
Yale beat Dartmouth 113-0. I would like to see a pathetic SEC team do that.
Michigan had a 56 game winning streak, outscoring their opponents 2,831 to 40!
Organized intercollegiate football was first played in Minnesota. Because we’re educated. Unless you ask my wife - then we’re all idiots.
But technically MN is too 5 nationwide in IQ. Which may not extrapolate through adulthood as it’s a simple measure of acquisition rate of knowledge and age subsidizes intelligence greatly with knowledge. But if not did, SEC states are in the bottom 25%. When I looked up this stat I might have expected the bottom to be Louisiana and then Mississippi and then people from Memphis. But surprisingly the bottom rung is New Mexico. I’m looking at you New Mexico - you dummmmmmm
@burghman said:
You lost me at UCLA. Absolutely no one has hyped them up in years.
And nice change of subject. We’re not talking about the Big 10, ACC, or any other conference. We’re talking about how you’ve hyped up just about every SEC team - Vandy, Kentucky, South Carolina (oh, sorry, “the real USC”), Ole Miss - probably everyone except Miss St and Fla at this point. They aren’t all great teams, regardless of what you say about them.
Having an objective opinion about teams isnt hyping them up. The most I said about Kentucky and Vandy is they arent trash and that was more for Vandy before Pavia got hurt and then got concentrated on suing the NCAA for a nonsense reason which even I as pro player as I am think is nonsense. Ole Miss, the real USC yes there will be a lot of defensive players that play on Sundays that people can learn about later.
If people dont get emotional about it theres really only 5 to 6 teams I have given praise to, and another 5 that I have said are dangerous aka not easy wins but wont be world beaters. Ive been far far more critical of some of the coaching and recruiting jobs that havent lived up to what the programs should be based on the rest of the roster
Stanley hyped up UCLA when they joined the B!G just like Washington and USC
Some people are too concerned about the name of a program over the current talent and coaching of it
And to be totally honest. I don’t really have anything against the SEC and I don’t really care about the rankings as it does sort itself out at the end of the season most of the time. I’m just calling out your oddball arguments - my opinion.
I do like college football more than NFL, but I admit I don’t follow it every season as I did when I was younger - and the Badgers were… competitive. But I have been watching a bit more this season.
Ditto, BGR. I’m not going to claim the my B1G is better top to bottom than Basebal’s SEC. I’m simply calling out how foolish Basebal looks consistently making excuses every time a top SEC team loses. And then criticizing anyone else who makes the same type of claims for another conference’s losses.
I’m done - it’s pointless (I think I’ve made that claim before about Basebal).
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Please let us know who you think should be ranked 1 and 2?
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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Georgia should have been 2 and its not even debatable. Doesnt matter though top 4 will be conference champs but OSU being 2 does show a heave B!G bias with the voters.
Funniest part is the Michigan AD is the head of the committee when theyre facing countless cheating penalties the NCAA is to scared to actually do
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
ESPN analyst Sam Acho stated on championship live yesterday that he agreed with the committee that Ohio State belongs at #2. Acho was a standout at Texas. The committee chairman stated that you are splitting hairs between Ohio State and Georgia. Georgia's best win was against #5, Ohio State's best win was against #6. He said the committee members put Ohio State ahead of Georgia is because the Buckeyes have a better loss. A one point loss to #1. While Georgia lost to #11. To think Georgia should be #2 and not debatable is nonsense.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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Acho also went on to say that Ohio State could've beat Oregon if it weren't for that awful 12 man penalty that has since been revoked.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
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OSU needs to change their name from Buckeyes to the IFS....The Ohio State Ifs
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Looking forward to Alabama vs LSU, I hope LSU smashes them
Vanderbilt vs South Carolina should be a fun game
Indiana vs Michigan could be good but I like Indiana to win
Alabama is still playing this year? I had completely forgotten.
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Started last Monday, actually.
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Not so sure about the Ducks now but OSU is for real.
Yes sir, OSU is for real. I think they'll be one of the final 4 teams.
IF they had an extra timeout against Oregon, they would have beat the Ducks and be ranked #1 right now.....
The committee put OSU at 3 because it has more B!G people on it and the chairman is from the B!G. Georgia's schedule has been significantly harder and their wins significantly better than OSUs and it not that close. PSU at 6 is a joke too
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
FL AD basically put his job on the line backing Nappier saying he wont be fired. Now when Nappier does eventually get fired in a year or two the AD will likely be fired as well
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Please let us know who you think should be ranked 1 and 2?
I don't actually care who is #1 and #2. In the CFP environment it makes no difference whatsoever.
I am simply pointing out how inconsistent you are. As well as how wrong you are and have been about SEC bias in the polls. The only reason you are not bellyaching about the current #1 and #2 being from the same conference after having played each other is because they are B10 teams.
This season, we will finally get a chance to see the top B10 and SEC teams playing in meaningful games after the regular season is over. It will definitely end all the nonsense about comparing meaningless bowl game records between conferences where the strength of the competition or the players choosing to sit out to protect their draft status is not considered.
Robb
You're way off base. The SEC is still well represented as they have two teams ranked in the top 5.
This is why many people complain about sec bias. Look at the left side of the picture(first poll)
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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This is just not accurate as you have no clue how the voting process works.
This is their recusal policy
''If a committee member or an immediate family member is (a) compensated by a school, (b) provides professional services for a school or (c) is on the coaching staff or administrative staff or is a player at a school, that committee member will be recused. Recused members aren't allowed to vote for those teams and are allowed only to answer factual questions about that school. Recused committee members aren't allowed to be in the room during any deliberations about that team's selection or seeding. They also aren't allowed to participate in discussions about what bowl game that team might be assigned to.''
To suggest that the chairman, who happens to be a Michigan AD put Ohio State ahead of Georgia is quite hilarious.
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So your upset that in 2014 that Mississippi State who had Dak Prescott and had beaten when they played number 8 LSU, number 6 Texas A$M, and number 2 Auburn was ranked first in the first poll? Theres no bias there
Their ranking dropped from a lost to Bama who at the time of the game was number 4 later in the season and then a loss to a ranked Ole Miss team
This might be the worst argument ever for SEC bias in the polls when clear B!G bias has been in the polls the last 2 years
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Ramblin' Wreck of Georgia Tech......
Miamis defense is so soft. About time it caught up to them
Dart getting hurt first drive is a disaster for Ole Miss
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Nice to see Miami finally lose one, but the ACC will still end up with a top 4 slot so not sure how much it really matters.
Jim
Could easily be the difference between them getting `1 team in or 2 for the playoffs. If an undefeated Miami and SMU played in the conference title game and SMU won theyd both be in, now if SMU wins Miami should be be out. SMU will likely win out the rest of the regular season and face either Miami or Clemson if Clemson doesnt lose to VT today. Clemson would also be out if they dont win the title and SMU likely wont make it either if they dont win the title
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Joe Klatt said the other day that Miami was the most over ranked team. Looks like he was dead on.
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would love to see the Rebels in the CFP
fun team to watch, GREAT unis
can't believe that's the same Georgia team i watched roll into Austin and take out the Horns
they were trash on both sides of the ball today
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
This aged well.
and one other thing
that kid who plays QB for Georgia
yeah he sucks
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Well at least they made double figures(10 points).
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Yes it did. Its not my fault if people dont understand how elite Ole Miss D line is that leads the country yes the country in sacks. Ole Miss had problems when their O line couldnt protect Dart
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Its not all his fault. The OC isnt doing him any favors and GA is second in the country in dropped passes. But yea hes played his way out of the first round
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Not sure how much play this has gotten in SEC circles, but it’s been talked about a lot in PSU land. SEC teams might prefer being 3rd in the conference at this point so they can avoid the championship game. The loser of that game might very well have 3 losses, while the 3rd place team ends the season with 2. Will the CFP committee reward a 3 loss team for making the conference championship game, or go with the 2 loss team that didn’t? 3 losses should be disqualifying in most years (unless a conference champion has 3 losses, of course).
Hypothetical… PSU could finish with 1 loss and miss out on the conference championship game. If OSU makes the game and loses a second game, PSU is potentially seeded higher and hosting while OSU may have to travel.
Jim
That's pretty incredible. Boise State has the leading rusher in the country in rushing yards and all purpose yards. UNLV might have the best special teams unit in the country. THE COUNTRY! THIS COUNTRY.
I guess OSU fans don't have to feel bad about the loss to Oregon. I mean they are first in the country in completion percentage. In the entire country. Let that sink in. The Country.
Well the Colorado - Texas Tech game has certainly been entertaining!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Moutain West football compared to SEC football? You cant be serious
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No ones tanking but the number 5 spot is arguably the best spot. You get a first round home game against what should be the G5 champ but actually might be the ACC champ at this rate. Second round they would get the number 4 team which will be the ACC or Big 12 champ and can get to the third round with very winnable games. Theres going to be better teams in the 6-11 range than the ones that get the 3rd or 4th spot
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SEC guy - ''2 or 3 loss sec teams means they beating up on each other.'' 2-3 loss teams in other conferences means they arn't any good.'''
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My point was... who cares if Ole Miss (just their defensive line apparently) is leading the country (might as well be the universe) in sacks.
So who cares about the quality of a team? What kind of point is that, that you dont know about college football?
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You must be Cajun if you think that's what I said.
OSU has 1 loss - vs. #1 Oregon.
Georgia D-A-W-G-S have 2 losses - vs. 11 (for now) Bama and vs. 16 (for now) Ole Miss.
Whether Ole Miss has the most sacks in the nation doesn't speak to the overall quality of their team in a comprehensive manner. It speaks only to a facet of a facet of their team. I doubt the Rebels are a top 10 defense overall.
Georgia has a top 3 schedule this year for sure but all your BS about how they're head and shoulders above OSU, or whoever you're looking to dawg any given week.... it's exposed as the ranting it is. Are you telling me that if a team stacks the box against Georgia that they can't do anything offensively because that's what it looked like - except for that Squirrel... he was making moves.
LOL Ole miss is 4th in yards per play and only Indiana whose played no one and Tennessee and Texas are ahead of them. Ole Miss its okay if you need to wait until theyre in the NFL to learn about them. Im just laughing a lot at this point. Bless yuur heart
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Their defense is ranked 4th? I bet that's news to them.
Yet Ole Miss lost to Kentucky who got trounced by Florida who’s beaten exactly no one. How all-universe can Ole Miss be? Stanley’s right - according to Basebal when SEC teams lose to each other, it’s because the entire league is phenomenal but when other conferences lose to each other it’s because every team sucks.
Jim
Ole Miss.
Total Defense... Not Top 10
Pass Defense... Not Top 10
Rush Defense... #1
Scoring Defense... #6
Red Zone Defense... #5
Third Down Defense.. #9
Sacks... #1 (Boise State is #2 - 42 - 38)
Anyways... that was fun.
Ole Miss lost to Kentucky because of O line problems that they have improved and changed the offense to address. The simple fact is that the SEC beats other conferences constantly and puts the most players in the NFL every year. Until that changes than yes top teams can beat each other up. The B!G has a great TV contract where average teams get hyped up like USC and UCLA etc and the ACC and Big 12 just are not good this year. Theres undeniable facts about conference vs conference records and who gets drafted.
I get fans get upset about it thats the beauty of sports with fans cheering for their teams. There is no argument that the SEC hasnt been the best conference for the last 20 years
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You lost me at UCLA. Absolutely no one has hyped them up in years.
And nice change of subject. We’re not talking about the Big 10, ACC, or any other conference. We’re talking about how you’ve hyped up just about every SEC team - Vandy, Kentucky, South Carolina (oh, sorry, “the real USC”), Ole Miss - probably everyone except Miss St and Fla at this point. They aren’t all great teams, regardless of what you say about them.
Jim
I'm sure he will make up excuses on how a 4-5 BIG TEN team beat the #14 ranked SEC team this year.
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I’m just reading up on Wikipedia on this “college football” thing which I didn’t know before.
I didn’t know it is referred to as “gridiron football” in a non-colloquial sense.
I didn’t know that college football was so long considered more prestigious than professional football.
Mob football sounds like the best game ever.
Walter Camp gave birth to American Football. The labor was strenuous and lasted 5 years. From the first games until it was significantly defined.
Yale beat Dartmouth 113-0. I would like to see a pathetic SEC team do that.
Michigan had a 56 game winning streak, outscoring their opponents 2,831 to 40!
Organized intercollegiate football was first played in Minnesota. Because we’re educated. Unless you ask my wife - then we’re all idiots.
But technically MN is too 5 nationwide in IQ. Which may not extrapolate through adulthood as it’s a simple measure of acquisition rate of knowledge and age subsidizes intelligence greatly with knowledge. But if not did, SEC states are in the bottom 25%. When I looked up this stat I might have expected the bottom to be Louisiana and then Mississippi and then people from Memphis. But surprisingly the bottom rung is New Mexico. I’m looking at you New Mexico - you dummmmmmm
Having an objective opinion about teams isnt hyping them up. The most I said about Kentucky and Vandy is they arent trash and that was more for Vandy before Pavia got hurt and then got concentrated on suing the NCAA for a nonsense reason which even I as pro player as I am think is nonsense. Ole Miss, the real USC yes there will be a lot of defensive players that play on Sundays that people can learn about later.
If people dont get emotional about it theres really only 5 to 6 teams I have given praise to, and another 5 that I have said are dangerous aka not easy wins but wont be world beaters. Ive been far far more critical of some of the coaching and recruiting jobs that havent lived up to what the programs should be based on the rest of the roster
Stanley hyped up UCLA when they joined the B!G just like Washington and USC
Some people are too concerned about the name of a program over the current talent and coaching of it
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And to be totally honest. I don’t really have anything against the SEC and I don’t really care about the rankings as it does sort itself out at the end of the season most of the time. I’m just calling out your oddball arguments - my opinion.
I do like college football more than NFL, but I admit I don’t follow it every season as I did when I was younger - and the Badgers were… competitive. But I have been watching a bit more this season.
Ditto, BGR. I’m not going to claim the my B1G is better top to bottom than Basebal’s SEC. I’m simply calling out how foolish Basebal looks consistently making excuses every time a top SEC team loses. And then criticizing anyone else who makes the same type of claims for another conference’s losses.
I’m done - it’s pointless (I think I’ve made that claim before about Basebal).
Jim
ROLL TIDE ROLL.....