There arent 4 teams with superior resumes in front of either Georgia or Alabama. Name 1 team with a superior resume.
Im not clueless I was using the past committee decisions with OSU about playoff decisions
Michigan. FSU, and Washington do not have better resumes than Alabama or Georgia at all. Especially FSU.
FSU beat LSU and then their next best win is Duke, and after that its Clemson. By the time they played Miami they had given up on the season.
Michigan played two games, Penn State who cant ever beat a ranked team and Ohio State.
Washington got credit for an overrated USC, two wins against Oregon that got credit for beating a "ranked Colorado" and both got credit for Oregon State. Turns out none of them were that good. Oregon State lost by snapping a 40 yard safety against them, Colorado was terrible, USC lost 5 games while being healthy etc etc
If Michigan and FSU win, there’s only 1 spot that requires comparing resumes. Has the committee ever excluded an undefeated power 5 conference champion in favor of a 1 loss team? I don’t recall that happening, so Michigan, FSU, and Washington are in automatically. Then you compare resumes and Texas has the head to head over Alabama, at Alabama, by double digits. The committees typically prioritize head to head results, so it should be Texas based on past precedent.
Of course, they could buck the trend, dump FSU because they’re down their QB, and choose both TX and AL. Or FSU loses tonight and makes it all moot anyway.
I think FSU loses tonight, though, so I think it’ll be:
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If Michigan and FSU win, there’s only 1 spot that requires comparing resumes. Has the committee ever excluded an undefeated power 5 conference champion in favor of a 1 loss team? I don’t recall that happening, so Michigan, FSU, and Washington are in automatically. Then you compare resumes and Texas has the head to head over Alabama, at Alabama, by double digits. The committees typically prioritize head to head results, so it should be Texas based on past precedent.
Of course, they could buck the trend, dump FSU because they’re down their QB, and choose both TX and AL. Or FSU loses tonight and makes it all moot anyway.
I think FSU loses tonight, though, so I think it’ll be:
Mich
Wash
TX
AL
Mich - AL would be a great opener.
No undefeated Power conference champion has been left out before. But should have
FSU Louisville looks like an Iowa intersquad game the offense is so so bad on both sides
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If Michigan and FSU win, there’s only 1 spot that requires comparing resumes. Has the committee ever excluded an undefeated power 5 conference champion in favor of a 1 loss team? I don’t recall that happening, so Michigan, FSU, and Washington are in automatically. Then you compare resumes and Texas has the head to head over Alabama, at Alabama, by double digits. The committees typically prioritize head to head results, so it should be Texas based on past precedent.
Of course, they could buck the trend, dump FSU because they’re down their QB, and choose both TX and AL. Or FSU loses tonight and makes it all moot anyway.
I think FSU loses tonight, though, so I think it’ll be:
Mich
Wash
TX
AL
Mich - AL would be a great opener.
No undefeated Power conference champion has been left out before. But should have
FSU Louisville looks like an Iowa intersquad game the offense is so so bad on both sides
I’ll admit to being a B1G homer, but that was funny! I’m watching the B1G game so I can only imagine what a 3-0 game looks like in this day of offensive football.
The Fox announcer’s fawning over the Michigan defense this game is gross - it’s freaking Iowa, it doesn’t take an elite defense to make them look like a middle school team.
Given that FSU game, I’m starting to believe that FSU will be left out whether they win or lose. I’ll stick with my 4 teams regardless of the FSU outcome.
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If Michigan and FSU win, there’s only 1 spot that requires comparing resumes. Has the committee ever excluded an undefeated power 5 conference champion in favor of a 1 loss team? I don’t recall that happening, so Michigan, FSU, and Washington are in automatically. Then you compare resumes and Texas has the head to head over Alabama, at Alabama, by double digits. The committees typically prioritize head to head results, so it should be Texas based on past precedent.
Of course, they could buck the trend, dump FSU because they’re down their QB, and choose both TX and AL. Or FSU loses tonight and makes it all moot anyway.
I think FSU loses tonight, though, so I think it’ll be:
Mich
Wash
TX
AL
Mich - AL would be a great opener.
No undefeated Power conference champion has been left out before. But should have
FSU Louisville looks like an Iowa intersquad game the offense is so so bad on both sides
I’ll admit to being a B1G homer, but that was funny! I’m watching the B1G game so I can only imagine what a 3-0 game looks like in this day of offensive football.
The Fox announcer’s fawning over the Michigan defense this game is gross - it’s freaking Iowa, it doesn’t take an elite defense to make them look like a middle school team.
Given that FSU game, I’m starting to believe that FSU will be left out whether they win or lose. I’ll stick with my 4 teams regardless of the FSU outcome.
Its been so bad lol. 2nd and 3rd all time for lowest yards ever in an ACC championship first half being the lowest combined ever. Anytime theres any sort of play theres a penalty calling it back very Iowa style.
I turned on the Michigan game during the break and it really is brutal acting like Iowa has an offense. Thats gotta be a tough game to call.
Theres still some time left, but unless FSU somehow flips a switch I really do not want to see them in the playoffs even if they win. Louisville is not some elite d and this is just bad. They scored again but putting in RBs to play QB for a TD isnt going to work
A "big" fan of OSU celebrating their rival (Michigan) and trying to make things out of conferences vs conferences when its not yet decided, I mean.......
Seems like such a fan should be more worried about not being able to even make a conference championship in the B!G
One has to wonder if the TV networks are involved/influencing to some extent in the selection process. Albeit ever so subtle. Which teams matchup they would like to see for the optimum in TV ratings. Would not be a surprise.
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Michigan. --- they proved themselves and should move up, proved to be the most complete team.
Washington. --- they have played well all season and that continued in their PAC 12 Championship win.
Florida State. --- maybe not impressive, but should they be penalized because they faced adversity and won??
Texas. --- it all goes back to week two, how can you keep them out??
--- Alabama/Hopefully the committee doesn't subscribe to the thinking that the SEC champion just needs to be in the playoff. I don't think they should be. The counter to that is that Texas beat Alabama and has been ahead of them in the polls ever since. I believe that if the committee were looking ahead to how things have transpired then it would have been easy enough to move Alabama ahead of Texas weeks ago. They didn't.
--- Georgia/Well, the Bulldogs were going to lose eventually. I really think the committee wanted the Championship Game to be Michigan vs. Georgia so I hope they don't think they can slide them in to get that in the semi's.
--- My thoughts on the SEC/I wasn't very impressed with the game overall, the last 10 minutes were exciting but before that I saw two teams that looked average, not like the "powerhouses" that the media hype would have us believe they are. I think it reveals a hidden truth about the SEC, that the conference isn't as dominant as everyone thinks. It's much the same as the rest of the NCAA, there are two teams that are much better than the rest but past that it looks ordinary. I know everyone thinks that's just wrong to say, but the facts prove otherwise.
I think most would agree that Michigan, Ohio State, Georgia, and Bama are the 4 best teams. I cant see FSU, Washington, or Texas beating any of those 4 teams. That said those 4 best teams i mentioned are not the most deserving. Ferg, i agree those 4 teams you listed will be the 4 playoff teams.
@coolstanley said: I think most would agree that Michigan, Ohio State, Georgia, and Bama are the 4 best teams. I cant see FSU, Washington, or Texas beating any of those 4 teams.
As I said in my post about Ohio State, they always make a compelling case for themselves but come up short when it counts. Three teams have done that this season, showed up when it counted, Michigan/Washington/Florida State. The way these teams pussify their schedules and refuse to play each other during the season there is no way to know who can beat who.
Strangely, we are about to find out when the Bowl Match-ups are made. Allow 5-10 to play each other in those games so we can see who is better. Don't just put one of them in the top four because the committee thinks they are better. We have three undefeated Group of Five Conference Champions which should play for the National Championship.
Ohio State lost, they should be out. Georgia lost, they should be out. That leaves Alabama and Texas. They both won their Conference Championship but Alabama lost head-to-head to Texas. Alabama should be out.
The Georgia - Alabama game should serve as a lesson for the Philadelphia Eagles. You can’t keep falling behind and expect to come back.
Alabama got a huge break at the end of the first half. The Alabama player didn’t catch a fourth down play pass which was called a catch. Shortly there after Alabama scored which made it 17 to 7 at the half.
Georgia’s national championship season is over. They didn’t play well enough to win.
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Only Michigan and Washington are locks. I see Florida State, Texas, Alabama and Georgia vying for two spots. I would give the edge to Alabama and Texas.
So FSU runs the table in the ACC and gets left out over a 1 loss conference champ? I am going to have an Ohio State National Champs shirt made. It's just as valid as whoever wins this farce of a playoff. FSU should sue the committee. Bias that's not even hidden anymore.
I think they like Alabama more. Alabama wins a close game at home with the aid of a generous call at the end of the first half. FSU wins all of their games and stays home. One analyst said FSU was passed over because their first and second string quarterbacks are injured. The undefeated record does not matter.
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I think they like Alabama more. Alabama wins a close game at home with the aid of a generous call at the end of the first half. FSU wins all of their games and stays home. One analyst said FSU was passed over because their first and second string quarterbacks are injured. The undefeated record does not matter.
Strength of schedule has to matter otherwise 13-0 Liberty should be in the discussion. Bama was 5th and FSU was 55th for strength of schedule. FSUs best wins were LSU and Louisville, Bamas best were Georgia, Ole Miss, LSU, Tennessee. The ACC was simply very down this year. UNC lived and died off what Drake Maye did, Miami gave up half way through the year to the point their pretty good QB announced he was transferring at the end of the year during the season, Duke had a hot start and faded etc.
Regardless though the Jordan Travis injury to FSU was the nail in the coffin for their playoff hopes. The committee had been looking for reasons all year to push them out and jumped Washington over them during the year. Their game last night was an audition whether or not they could be competitive in the playoffs and the answer was no. They started their third string freshman (who is talented) and he was so bad they brought in their backup who didnt start because of a concussion that magically "got better" during the game who was also terrible. They beat Louisville because they were better than them at basically every position, that would not be the case against a legitimate playoff team. It would look like the 49ers vs Philly when they couldnt throw, or an Iowa offense and basically been a first round bye for whoever played them.
What some are not seeing is that FSU was going to be out no matter what even if Georgia won. They put Texas at 3 which is higher than FSU was ranked. If Georgia won it would have been Georgia, Michigan, Washington, Texas
The fact that Michigan players groaned when they learned it was Bama shows they made the right decision
Ohio State was a conference champion in 2017 and had a better SOS than Alabama. Yet the committee chose Bama for the final four spot. Just shows the SEC always has an unfair advantage. This year is no different.
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Ohio State was a conference champion is 2017 and had a better SOS than Alabama. Yet the committee chose Bama for the final four spot. Just shows the SEC always has an unfair advantage. This year is no different.
You mean a 2 loss OSU that year that also lost to unranked Iowa? Thats what happened that year
I think they like Alabama more. Alabama wins a close game at home with the aid of a generous call at the end of the first half. FSU wins all of their games and stays home. One analyst said FSU was passed over because their first and second string quarterbacks are injured. The undefeated record does not matter.
Strength of schedule has to matter otherwise 13-0 Liberty should be in the discussion. Bama was 5th and FSU was 55th for strength of schedule. FSUs best wins were LSU and Louisville, Bamas best were Georgia, Ole Miss, LSU, Tennessee. The ACC was simply very down this year. UNC lived and died off what Drake Maye did, Miami gave up half way through the year to the point their pretty good QB announced he was transferring at the end of the year during the season, Duke had a hot start and faded etc.
Regardless though the Jordan Travis injury to FSU was the nail in the coffin for their playoff hopes. The committee had been looking for reasons all year to push them out and jumped Washington over them during the year. Their game last night was an audition whether or not they could be competitive in the playoffs and the answer was no. They started their third string freshman (who is talented) and he was so bad they brought in their backup who didnt start because of a concussion that magically "got better" during the game who was also terrible. They beat Louisville because they were better than them at basically every position, that would not be the case against a legitimate playoff team. It would look like the 49ers vs Philly when they couldnt throw, or an Iowa offense and basically been a first round bye for whoever played them.
What some are not seeing is that FSU was going to be out no matter what even if Georgia won. They put Texas at 3 which is higher than FSU was ranked. If Georgia won it would have been Georgia, Michigan, Washington, Texas
The fact that Michigan players groaned when they learned it was Bama shows they made the right decision
Michigan has a short history of underperforming. I thought their quarterback pretty good until last year’s playoffs. This year he has shown he probably doesn’t have a first line position in the NFL draft. My bet would be on Alabama to beat them. The real championship game was the Alabama victory over Georgia, and that was influenced by a bad call.
And yes, I don’t care for Alabama and its coach.
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I think they like Alabama more. Alabama wins a close game at home with the aid of a generous call at the end of the first half. FSU wins all of their games and stays home. One analyst said FSU was passed over because their first and second string quarterbacks are injured. The undefeated record does not matter.
Strength of schedule has to matter otherwise 13-0 Liberty should be in the discussion. Bama was 5th and FSU was 55th for strength of schedule. FSUs best wins were LSU and Louisville, Bamas best were Georgia, Ole Miss, LSU, Tennessee. The ACC was simply very down this year. UNC lived and died off what Drake Maye did, Miami gave up half way through the year to the point their pretty good QB announced he was transferring at the end of the year during the season, Duke had a hot start and faded etc.
Regardless though the Jordan Travis injury to FSU was the nail in the coffin for their playoff hopes. The committee had been looking for reasons all year to push them out and jumped Washington over them during the year. Their game last night was an audition whether or not they could be competitive in the playoffs and the answer was no. They started their third string freshman (who is talented) and he was so bad they brought in their backup who didnt start because of a concussion that magically "got better" during the game who was also terrible. They beat Louisville because they were better than them at basically every position, that would not be the case against a legitimate playoff team. It would look like the 49ers vs Philly when they couldnt throw, or an Iowa offense and basically been a first round bye for whoever played them.
What some are not seeing is that FSU was going to be out no matter what even if Georgia won. They put Texas at 3 which is higher than FSU was ranked. If Georgia won it would have been Georgia, Michigan, Washington, Texas
The fact that Michigan players groaned when they learned it was Bama shows they made the right decision
Michigan has a short history of underperforming. I thought their quarterback pretty good until last year’s playoffs. This year he has shown he probably doesn’t have a first line position in the NFL draft. My bet would be on Alabama to beat them. The real championship game was the Alabama victory over Georgia, and that was influenced by a bad call.
And yes, I don’t care for Alabama and its coach.
I respect what Saban has done and built. I dont have to like a coach either to see it.
As far as Michigan its true there is a short history of underperming, but they have also only had a short history to do so. JJ is average at best and they know it which is why they stopped letting him put the ball in his hands. He wont be a first round pick and never really was expected to be outside of the media claims.
I defiantly agree that the real game was Georgie Bama. That call wasnt great, in the long run I dont think it matters much as either team would be the favorite to win it all, The 12 team playoff which is long overdue would have sorted it all out
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FSU was 2-0 against the SEC, didn't play an FCS school, and beat common opponent LSU by more (21 vs 14) than Alabama did.
Texas beat Alabama.
Alabama has no argument for being one of the four.
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If Bama and FSU were playing today who would Vegas favor.....be honest now.
Probably Bama.
Unfortunately that was the game where Travis had his leg broken. I didnt want to see that especially in a game they would win with all backups. Id much rather see everyone healthy and an expanded playoffs but with the 4 once that happened they just werent the same team anymore
To expand a little, Travis shouldnt take the blame for this either. They were a borderline team and its unfair to put all the blame on Travis getting hurt. It was what pushed it over the edge but the roster is what ultimately did it. Talent wise they were right on the cusp of being there. It just took one thing to push them out and unfortunately it ended up being Travis getting hurt
Next year the topic of heated discussion on selection Sunday will be two or three teams arguing that they deserve being selected for the #12 spot in the playoffs and got denied their rightful playoff berth by a biased selection committee.
The only solution to this is to have no regular season. Have all D-1 teams start a national playoff tournament after Labor day and let everyone in. Of course teams will then complain that they got a raw deal with their assigned playoff seeding.
This was by far the worst committee in the 4 team playoff era. Their rankings make no sense. Two teams got in over another team with the better record. They placed Ohio State as the worse one loss team when they have the best loss....a 6 point loss to the #1 team.
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Next year the topic of heated discussion on selection Sunday will be two or three teams arguing that they deserve being selected for the #12 spot in the playoffs and got denied their rightful playoff berth by a biased selection committee.
Might get crazy. One of the rules is one group of 5 team gets in the 12 team playoff. So in other words, the #13 team who could be a better team than the group of five team, gets left out.
Hey CoolStanley, you're the smartest football fan on the boards.
Can you please tell me why FSU is a 13-point underdog to Georgia.
How can an undefeated #5 team (FSU) be a 13-point underdog to the #6 team (Georgia)?
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I thought Bama would be more than a 1-point underdog to the #1 team.
Seems like Bama would be a double-digit underdog since they don't even belong there.
We don't have a chance against Michigan....
I watched some Youtube on them. They're big and fast and play well together, well coached too.
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I thought Bama would be more than a 1-point underdog to the #1 team.
Seems like Bama would be a double-digit underdog since they don't even belong there.
We don't have a chance against Michigan....
I watched some Youtube on them. They're big and fast and play well together, well coached too.
Alabama will smoke Michigan. I'm surprised the spread is almost even. Might change though. Harbaugh dont win bowl games.
About the Bowl matchups...This has to be the most BIG Ten vs SEC matchups in history..SIX games.
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There arent 4 teams with superior resumes in front of either Georgia or Alabama. Name 1 team with a superior resume.
Im not clueless I was using the past committee decisions with OSU about playoff decisions
Michigan. FSU, and Washington do not have better resumes than Alabama or Georgia at all. Especially FSU.
FSU beat LSU and then their next best win is Duke, and after that its Clemson. By the time they played Miami they had given up on the season.
Michigan played two games, Penn State who cant ever beat a ranked team and Ohio State.
Washington got credit for an overrated USC, two wins against Oregon that got credit for beating a "ranked Colorado" and both got credit for Oregon State. Turns out none of them were that good. Oregon State lost by snapping a 40 yard safety against them, Colorado was terrible, USC lost 5 games while being healthy etc etc
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If Michigan and FSU win, there’s only 1 spot that requires comparing resumes. Has the committee ever excluded an undefeated power 5 conference champion in favor of a 1 loss team? I don’t recall that happening, so Michigan, FSU, and Washington are in automatically. Then you compare resumes and Texas has the head to head over Alabama, at Alabama, by double digits. The committees typically prioritize head to head results, so it should be Texas based on past precedent.
Of course, they could buck the trend, dump FSU because they’re down their QB, and choose both TX and AL. Or FSU loses tonight and makes it all moot anyway.
I think FSU loses tonight, though, so I think it’ll be:
Mich - AL would be a great opener.
Jim
No undefeated Power conference champion has been left out before. But should have
FSU Louisville looks like an Iowa intersquad game the offense is so so bad on both sides
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I’ll admit to being a B1G homer, but that was funny! I’m watching the B1G game so I can only imagine what a 3-0 game looks like in this day of offensive football.
The Fox announcer’s fawning over the Michigan defense this game is gross - it’s freaking Iowa, it doesn’t take an elite defense to make them look like a middle school team.
Given that FSU game, I’m starting to believe that FSU will be left out whether they win or lose. I’ll stick with my 4 teams regardless of the FSU outcome.
Jim
Its been so bad lol. 2nd and 3rd all time for lowest yards ever in an ACC championship first half being the lowest combined ever. Anytime theres any sort of play theres a penalty calling it back very Iowa style.
I turned on the Michigan game during the break and it really is brutal acting like Iowa has an offense. Thats gotta be a tough game to call.
Theres still some time left, but unless FSU somehow flips a switch I really do not want to see them in the playoffs even if they win. Louisville is not some elite d and this is just bad. They scored again but putting in RBs to play QB for a TD isnt going to work
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Great drive by Florida State.
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2 Washington
3 FSU
4 Texas
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A "big" fan of OSU celebrating their rival (Michigan) and trying to make things out of conferences vs conferences when its not yet decided, I mean.......
Seems like such a fan should be more worried about not being able to even make a conference championship in the B!G
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FSU was 2-0 against the SEC, didn't play an FCS school, and beat common opponent LSU by more (21 vs 14) than Alabama did.
Texas beat Alabama.
Alabama has no argument for being one of the four.
University of Northern Alabama, at least get the facts right for FSU.
Does make sense though hoping for the easiest path possible for Michigan fans
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One has to wonder if the TV networks are involved/influencing to some extent in the selection process. Albeit ever so subtle. Which teams matchup they would like to see for the optimum in TV ratings. Would not be a surprise.
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If Bama and FSU were playing today who would Vegas favor.....be honest now.
Texas. --- it all goes back to week two, how can you keep them out??
--- Alabama/Hopefully the committee doesn't subscribe to the thinking that the SEC champion just needs to be in the playoff. I don't think they should be. The counter to that is that Texas beat Alabama and has been ahead of them in the polls ever since. I believe that if the committee were looking ahead to how things have transpired then it would have been easy enough to move Alabama ahead of Texas weeks ago. They didn't.
--- Georgia/Well, the Bulldogs were going to lose eventually. I really think the committee wanted the Championship Game to be Michigan vs. Georgia so I hope they don't think they can slide them in to get that in the semi's.
--- My thoughts on the SEC/I wasn't very impressed with the game overall, the last 10 minutes were exciting but before that I saw two teams that looked average, not like the "powerhouses" that the media hype would have us believe they are. I think it reveals a hidden truth about the SEC, that the conference isn't as dominant as everyone thinks. It's much the same as the rest of the NCAA, there are two teams that are much better than the rest but past that it looks ordinary. I know everyone thinks that's just wrong to say, but the facts prove otherwise.
Alabama.
I think most would agree that Michigan, Ohio State, Georgia, and Bama are the 4 best teams. I cant see FSU, Washington, or Texas beating any of those 4 teams. That said those 4 best teams i mentioned are not the most deserving. Ferg, i agree those 4 teams you listed will be the 4 playoff teams.
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@coolstanley said: I think most would agree that Michigan, Ohio State, Georgia, and Bama are the 4 best teams. I cant see FSU, Washington, or Texas beating any of those 4 teams.
As I said in my post about Ohio State, they always make a compelling case for themselves but come up short when it counts. Three teams have done that this season, showed up when it counted, Michigan/Washington/Florida State. The way these teams pussify their schedules and refuse to play each other during the season there is no way to know who can beat who.
Strangely, we are about to find out when the Bowl Match-ups are made. Allow 5-10 to play each other in those games so we can see who is better. Don't just put one of them in the top four because the committee thinks they are better. We have three undefeated Group of Five Conference Champions which should play for the National Championship.
Ohio State lost, they should be out. Georgia lost, they should be out. That leaves Alabama and Texas. They both won their Conference Championship but Alabama lost head-to-head to Texas. Alabama should be out.
That's my logic.
The Georgia - Alabama game should serve as a lesson for the Philadelphia Eagles. You can’t keep falling behind and expect to come back.
Alabama got a huge break at the end of the first half. The Alabama player didn’t catch a fourth down play pass which was called a catch. Shortly there after Alabama scored which made it 17 to 7 at the half.
Georgia’s national championship season is over. They didn’t play well enough to win.
Only Michigan and Washington are locks. I see Florida State, Texas, Alabama and Georgia vying for two spots. I would give the edge to Alabama and Texas.
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So FSU runs the table in the ACC and gets left out over a 1 loss conference champ? I am going to have an Ohio State National Champs shirt made. It's just as valid as whoever wins this farce of a playoff. FSU should sue the committee. Bias that's not even hidden anymore.
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ESPN rankings. Looks like they like the BIG TEN lol.
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Add FSU to the list of teams that got screwed by the cheaters.
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@coolstanley said:
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Michigan got in and they cheated.
How could this be?
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I think they like Alabama more. Alabama wins a close game at home with the aid of a generous call at the end of the first half. FSU wins all of their games and stays home. One analyst said FSU was passed over because their first and second string quarterbacks are injured. The undefeated record does not matter.
Strength of schedule has to matter otherwise 13-0 Liberty should be in the discussion. Bama was 5th and FSU was 55th for strength of schedule. FSUs best wins were LSU and Louisville, Bamas best were Georgia, Ole Miss, LSU, Tennessee. The ACC was simply very down this year. UNC lived and died off what Drake Maye did, Miami gave up half way through the year to the point their pretty good QB announced he was transferring at the end of the year during the season, Duke had a hot start and faded etc.
Regardless though the Jordan Travis injury to FSU was the nail in the coffin for their playoff hopes. The committee had been looking for reasons all year to push them out and jumped Washington over them during the year. Their game last night was an audition whether or not they could be competitive in the playoffs and the answer was no. They started their third string freshman (who is talented) and he was so bad they brought in their backup who didnt start because of a concussion that magically "got better" during the game who was also terrible. They beat Louisville because they were better than them at basically every position, that would not be the case against a legitimate playoff team. It would look like the 49ers vs Philly when they couldnt throw, or an Iowa offense and basically been a first round bye for whoever played them.
What some are not seeing is that FSU was going to be out no matter what even if Georgia won. They put Texas at 3 which is higher than FSU was ranked. If Georgia won it would have been Georgia, Michigan, Washington, Texas
The fact that Michigan players groaned when they learned it was Bama shows they made the right decision
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That clip said a lot.......
Heading towards Alabama vs Texas part II for the championship
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Ohio State was a conference champion in 2017 and had a better SOS than Alabama. Yet the committee chose Bama for the final four spot. Just shows the SEC always has an unfair advantage. This year is no different.
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You mean a 2 loss OSU that year that also lost to unranked Iowa? Thats what happened that year
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Michigan has a short history of underperforming. I thought their quarterback pretty good until last year’s playoffs. This year he has shown he probably doesn’t have a first line position in the NFL draft. My bet would be on Alabama to beat them. The real championship game was the Alabama victory over Georgia, and that was influenced by a bad call.
And yes, I don’t care for Alabama and its coach.
I have no idea how I missed the FCS opponent for FSU. Ugh.
Probably Bama.
I respect what Saban has done and built. I dont have to like a coach either to see it.
As far as Michigan its true there is a short history of underperming, but they have also only had a short history to do so. JJ is average at best and they know it which is why they stopped letting him put the ball in his hands. He wont be a first round pick and never really was expected to be outside of the media claims.
I defiantly agree that the real game was Georgie Bama. That call wasnt great, in the long run I dont think it matters much as either team would be the favorite to win it all, The 12 team playoff which is long overdue would have sorted it all out
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Who cares who's favored? Both Georgia and Oregon were favored and how did that turn out?
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Unfortunately that was the game where Travis had his leg broken. I didnt want to see that especially in a game they would win with all backups. Id much rather see everyone healthy and an expanded playoffs but with the 4 once that happened they just werent the same team anymore
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To expand a little, Travis shouldnt take the blame for this either. They were a borderline team and its unfair to put all the blame on Travis getting hurt. It was what pushed it over the edge but the roster is what ultimately did it. Talent wise they were right on the cusp of being there. It just took one thing to push them out and unfortunately it ended up being Travis getting hurt
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Next year the topic of heated discussion on selection Sunday will be two or three teams arguing that they deserve being selected for the #12 spot in the playoffs and got denied their rightful playoff berth by a biased selection committee.
The only solution to this is to have no regular season. Have all D-1 teams start a national playoff tournament after Labor day and let everyone in. Of course teams will then complain that they got a raw deal with their assigned playoff seeding.
This was by far the worst committee in the 4 team playoff era. Their rankings make no sense. Two teams got in over another team with the better record. They placed Ohio State as the worse one loss team when they have the best loss....a 6 point loss to the #1 team.
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Might get crazy. One of the rules is one group of 5 team gets in the 12 team playoff. So in other words, the #13 team who could be a better team than the group of five team, gets left out.
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Theres no power 5. Its a power 4 next year and all power 4 conference champions have an automatic bid
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Coolstanleys current top ten before the bowl games begin.
Michigan
Washington
Florida State
Ohio State
Texas
Alabama
Georgia
Penn State
Oregon
Oklahoma
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Lol
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Hey CoolStanley, you're the smartest football fan on the boards.
Can you please tell me why FSU is a 13-point underdog to Georgia.
How can an undefeated #5 team (FSU) be a 13-point underdog to the #6 team (Georgia)?
Ohio State starting quarterback Kyle McCord enters transfer portal.....oh my.
I wonder who plays against Missouri? We shall see.
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Big ten vs SEC bowl matchups
Michigan vs Alabama
Ohio State vs Missouri
Ole Miss vs Penn State
Iowa vs Tennessee
Auburn vs Maryland
Wisconsin vs LSU
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I thought Bama would be more than a 1-point underdog to the #1 team.
Seems like Bama would be a double-digit underdog since they don't even belong there.
We don't have a chance against Michigan....
I watched some Youtube on them. They're big and fast and play well together, well coached too.
Alabama will smoke Michigan. I'm surprised the spread is almost even. Might change though. Harbaugh dont win bowl games.
About the Bowl matchups...This has to be the most BIG Ten vs SEC matchups in history..SIX games.
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no one here is even mentioning the team that is going to win it all
Texas
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
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I can't disagree. Sark has those guys playing well.
That td to Sweat was awesome.