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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2023 12:42PM

    Go Navy !!

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2023 8:57PM

    Also rooting for Navy, they need someone knew doing their uniforms though. They basically designed half a helmet and were like thats good just make everything else dark blue

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭

    Who ever gave JJ McCarthy a first place Heisman vote should have their voting privileges removed. Anyone that gave him any vote should really have their voting privileges removed. Even him finishing 10th which is more passes than he was allowed to throw against PSU is crazy.

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    coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!

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    coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭

    Michigan has won the last 3 games against OSU. Blame Harbaugh for whatever but 2020 not playing wasnt his fault. OSU has been terrible under Day in big games

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    coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Most NFL draft picks in history

    1. Notre Dame
    2. USC
    3. Ohio State
    4. Oklahoma
    5. Michigan

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    coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2023 10:46PM

    Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭

    Notre Dame hasnt had a number 1 over all since 1972. That list gets very different if you look at it post the start of the Korean War and active NFL players

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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These tears are delicious.....BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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    TabeTabe Posts: 5,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:
    Michigan has won the last 3 games against OSU. Blame Harbaugh for whatever but 2020 not playing wasnt his fault. OSU has been terrible under Day in big games

    We'll also just ignore that Ohio was sharing signals with other schools which also violates B1G rules :)

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @Basebal21 said:
    Michigan has won the last 3 games against OSU. Blame Harbaugh for whatever but 2020 not playing wasnt his fault. OSU has been terrible under Day in big games

    We'll also just ignore that Ohio was sharing signals with other schools which also violates B1G rules :)

    Or that Urban Meyer had a coach on staff whose only job was to follow Michigan.

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 12, 2023 9:12AM

    Drake Maye has declared for the draft.

    Sam Hartman has decalred for the draft as well.

    Oaklahomas QB has transferred to Oregon

    Dukes QB to Notre Dame

    No one in the portal or that transferred came play in bowl games. Theres a number of games that will be in danger of being canceled if the teams lose all the players they have in the portal

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    GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There’s 43 of ’em, and they start in four days, so let’s get going. (We’re talking bowl games, of course. They’re everywhere, like warts on a toad.)

    First off, we got the ones that fellows will be embarrassed to tell their grandkids they played in.

    This starts with one I already consider to have entered Hall of Fame Name territory anchored by the former Poulan Weed-Eater Bowl (often referred to as the Weedwhacker Bowl), the Salad Bowl (held in Phoenix from 1948 to 1952), the Beef ‘O’ Brady’s Bowl (sponsored by a pub chain called ‘‘Beef’s’’ by regulars) and the lovely Meineke Car Care Bowl.

    The special one is the Pop-Tarts Bowl. It’s played in Orlando on Dec. 28 and features 9-3 North Carolina State and 8-4 Kansas State. Both starting quarterbacks are in the transfer portal and won’t be playing, but no matter. Think of the dialogue between Grandpa and little Johnny on his knee years hence:

    Little Johnny: “Papa, what’s a Pop-Tart?’’

    Grandpa: “It was a delicious toaster pastry containing corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, dextrose, soybean and palm oil sugar, and bleached wheat flour.’’

    Little Johnny: “Did you eat them?’’

    Grandpa: “No, Johnny, never. But they lasted decades on the pantry shelf.’’

    Then there’s the Guaranteed Rate Bowl, the Famous Toastery Bowl (“All Day Breakfast!”), the Quick Lane Bowl (wiper blades, oil change, wheel alignment), the Duke’s Mayo Bowl (“It’s Got Twang!’’) and the ReliaQuest Bowl (“Trust ReliaQuest to operationalize security’’).

    There are more like the above, but these bowls basically are ads for companies, and the players are mini-billboards.

    Someday a player may be sort of proud to have played in the Ventures Bowl (South Alabama vs. Eastern Michigan, both 6-6), but it’s got to be tougher to tell folks your postseason contest was sponsored by a construction company out of Daphne, Alabama, and not the famed guitar group who made ‘‘Walk, Don’t Run’’ a killer tune.

    Did I mention the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl? Nothing wrong with spuds. Not a thing. A world without Ruffles potato chips and French fries is a world not worth living in. Idaho’s cool, too. Got Yellowstone National Park up there at the top.

    But with 6-6 Georgia State playing 6-6 Utah State, the game is the definition of mediocre. And a potato on your gift watch isn’t as cool as a rose or an orange.

    An obvious point here is that many of these so-called bowls aren’t bowls at all. They’re just late, extra games for almost everybody in D-I football except the really bad teams.

    Even some of the losers get in, such as in the aforementioned Quick Lane Bowl, where 5-7 Minnesota plays 7-5 Bowling Green. Kudos to Gophers coach P.J. Fleck for somehow getting his boys into a bowl despite finishing last in the seven-team Big Ten West.

    One could reasonably ask what the purpose of these bowl games really is except to entertain the lazy, food-gorged holiday TV crowd.

    Coaches, of course, love the extra game. And they get paid for it, too. The guy everybody loves so much, Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh, got $500,000 just for beating Ohio State in the regular season — and he wasn’t even there. So who knows how much he’ll get if Michigan beats Alabama in the Rose Bowl and moves on to the National Championship Game and wins that against Texas or Washington.

    The serious bowls generally start in the week after Christmas and onto New Year’s Day. The Citrus Bowl, Peach Bowl, Cotton Bowl, Orange Bowl and Rose Bowl fall into that category. With an undefeated team like Florida State (13-0) playing 12-1 Georgia in the Orange Bowl, you’ve a vengeance game of grand proportions.

    Georgia was ranked No. 1 at times during the season before losing in the SEC Championship game to Alabama on a controversial play and thus was tossed from the final-four championship derby. So, too, Florida State simply got screwed out of the tourney because its starting quarterback got hurt. You’re undefeated? Sorry. Furious at somebody — likely the selection committee — describes the mood of this game best.

    And don’t forget a lot of star players are opting out of the games entirely. You want to see top NFL draft prospect Caleb Williams in the Holiday Bowl, where his team, USC, plays Louisville? Sorry, he’s chillin’ for the draft.

    Why get hurt for nothing?

    And all the players, in or out, can be happy they’re not playing in the once-upon-a-time Gallery Furniture.Com Bowl.

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    TabeTabe Posts: 5,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:

    Or that Urban Meyer had a coach on staff whose only job was to follow Michigan.

    That's a new one to me. Hadn't heard that before.

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    coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rumor is #1 pocket passer prospect Dylan Raiola who has committed to Georgia will be flipping to Nebraska. Kyle McCord and Julien Fleming has also visited Nebraska in the past week,

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    coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ohio State running back Chip Trayanum commits to Kentucky.

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    Or that Urban Meyer had a coach on staff whose only job was to follow Michigan.

    That's a new one to me. Hadn't heard that before.

    He mentioned it earlier this year

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaHQ8l2K1c&t=142s

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭

    Nebraska fans shouldnt get to excited about Riaola if he does flip. He already flipped once to Georgia and he went to like 3 different high schools. Sure his uncle is a coach at Nebraska but so far every decision he has made is just following the money and Nebraska will be lucky to keep him more than a year. This could easily be a Quinn Ewers situation where he goes and takes their money for a year and then transfers out. He wasnt going to start this year at GA with Beck expected to return.

    Tyler Van Dyke Miamis QB going to Wisconsin. None of these are set in stone until they actually sign soon, but theyre usually firm commitments at this point especially for transfers

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    MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coolstanley said: Ohio State running back Chip Trayanum commits to Kentucky.

    Will the Buckeyes have enough offensive players for the Missouri game?? :p

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    BrickBrick Posts: 4,955 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Doesn't matter. They don't need to be in a bowl game until they beat the team up North.

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    TabeTabe Posts: 5,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:

    @Tabe said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    Or that Urban Meyer had a coach on staff whose only job was to follow Michigan.

    That's a new one to me. Hadn't heard that before.

    He mentioned it earlier this year

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaHQ8l2K1c&t=142s

    Eh. What he said was "watch" Michigan. That could just be watching video. Probably not but could be.

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @Tabe said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    Or that Urban Meyer had a coach on staff whose only job was to follow Michigan.

    That's a new one to me. Hadn't heard that before.

    He mentioned it earlier this year

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaHQ8l2K1c&t=142s

    Eh. What he said was "watch" Michigan. That could just be watching video. Probably not but could be.

    Thats what Michigan was doing, they were "watching:" I have no dog in the fight for either program everyone does it to some extent. Michigan was targeted because of multiple investigations and Haurbaugh lying to the NCAA multiple times over nothing. The NCAA didnt and hasnt actually done anything, the B!G and Michigan decided to hoping not to get the lack of institutional control penalty which was never going to happen with them in the playoff hunt

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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coach won't steal your signs, but he'll hire your coaches....this is war..... :#

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    MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 18, 2023 4:47AM

    The Transfer Portal has permanently ruined the NCAA Bowl games. Why is it opened prior to mid-January before all the games are played?? The NCAA had to know teams would lose key players. It is stupid to have a team compete through the season only to watch a bowl game without some of the starters or key substitutes. The NFL draft already causes some players to sit out for fear of injury in their last college game, why make it worse??

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭

    The portal timing is weird, so is the bowl game timing. Even Texas has its backup QB who started a few games when Ewers was hurt in the portal now and theyre in the playoffs. It never really made sense for such a long layoff for the bowls where we go over two weeks with really nothing then all of a sudden you have multiple big bowls playing the same time the same day.

    Even before the portal bowls outside of the playoffs had gotten fairly irrelevant. Top guys were sitting out more and more which they should as the smart move. The NIL saved it a bit where you could pay a guy to play it if you wanted.

    Army Navy should keep their own week with how special that game is, but lets close the gap and get the bowls rolling right away. The fact its a month off for playoff teams is just insane. Of course guys that arent starting and know a big recruit in their position is coming in are going to leave or guys at smaller programs that are studs will leave.

    The time off is the big issue. Guys are being asked to stay at a program they know doesnt have plans for them, care about them, want them, or is beneath their talent level for weeks and have the option to leave and they take it

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    coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pretty sad when your best players are playing for a natty and they choose not to play because the money is more important.

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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 17, 2023 5:38AM

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭

    Washington is like this years TCU with less talent. They should have lost like 5 of their games but the other team did something to let them off the hook like Oregon States 40 yard safety on a bad punt snap.

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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭✭✭

    McCord is going to play for Syracuse next year.
    Wonder why he chose Syracuse?

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

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    coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 17, 2023 11:19PM

    McCord is going to play for Syracuse next year.
    Wonder why he chose Syracuse?

    Probably cause they offered him some good money. He has probably the best stats out of any QB that is available.

    And he's from the east coast.

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 18, 2023 12:20AM

    @Steven59 said:
    McCord is going to play for Syracuse next year.
    Wonder why he chose Syracuse?

    Because no one really wanted him. That was his best option. The big programs that need a QB all have interest in better guys

    Syracuse is the right level for him. OSU told him hed have to fight for his job or wouldnt have one so he left, he was ranked 10th for QBs in the transfer portal. Leaving was the right move instead of sitting on the bench as a senior

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    coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    McCord has the 2nd highest QB rating of anyone in the portal.

    https://www.espn.com/college-football/qbr

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    craig44craig44 Posts: 10,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I heard the number of bowl games this year is 43.

    other than the 3 games that will determine the National Champion, does anyone care about the other 40? They dont count for anything. Many top players will not be competing. I dont see the point of it.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

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    MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A bowl game provides the opportunity to watch a favored team(s) or player(s) one last time and if you're really a football junkie they're enjoyable to watch.

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    BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 8,272 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    I heard the number of bowl games this year is 43.

    other than the 3 games that will determine the National Champion, does anyone care about the other 40? They dont count for anything. Many top players will not be competing. I dont see the point of it.

    Gambling sites love to "bowl". :)

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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I enjoyed this game and the fights.
    When the winning kick went through, the Jax State players acted like they had won the Super Bowl.

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    I heard the number of bowl games this year is 43.

    other than the 3 games that will determine the National Champion, does anyone care about the other 40? They dont count for anything. Many top players will not be competing. I dont see the point of it.

    Fans or players? Fans like seeing the games well most of them anyways. Players and teams a free trip to the Bahamas or something like that is always fun. The big time bowls are the ones that get hurt the most. Georgia FSU should be a super exciting matchup, neither team wants to be playing in that game. The coaches can hype it up all they want both of them as a team hate that they have to play that. Its especially true this year when we could have already had the expanded playoff but the B!G and the Pac 2 blocked it.

    The one good thing they do is it gives you a chance to see a little bit of the future. You get to see a lot of backups that are trying for playing spots or maybe a freshman QB that now starts because the starter left etc. Overall though yea the luster is certainly off the whole bowl things and waiting 3 weeks to see some real teams playing

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    coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love the bowl matchups. Always fun.

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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    I'm hearing that FSU will end up joining the BIG10....avoiding the SEC again.

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 22, 2023 2:07PM

    Its not really clear where they would go but it would be the B!G or the SEC. The problem with the B!G and the reason why they told their last commissioner to find a new job is that the B!G doesnt get any extra TV money for adding teams which makes everyone else take less money. Its why Washington and Oregon arent getting full media shares

    Currently it would cost FSU about $572 million to get out of the conference. They filed a lawsuit this morning trying to get out of the grant of rights which the ACC has until 2036. If theyre somehow successful it will be the end of the ACC. The Big 12 will pick up some teams and FSU, Clemson, Miami, UNC, Louisville will get to pick whatever conference they want

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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Kyle McCord just watched his new team Syracuse lose today 45-0 in their bowl game today.

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

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    MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59, how much do you think he can help them?? I wonder if he's already having buyers remorse??

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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    @Steven59, how much do you think he can help them?? I wonder if he's already having buyers remorse??

    I think McCord was a beneficiary of a nice OSU offensive line - I doubt Syracuse O line will be close so who knows how bad McCord is going to look next year.

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭

    Hes probably better than what they had, but its doubtful hell be good. He was very average at OSU and Syracuse has no where near the weapons he had at OSU. The fact Syracuse was his best option when multiple big programs needed a QB pretty much shows what everyone else thinks of him

    Whenever they showed him during that bowl game it looked like he was hating life being there

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    TabeTabe Posts: 5,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bullsitter said:

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    I'm hearing that FSU will end up joining the BIG10....avoiding the SEC again.

    From where? FSU isn't an AAU school and the B1G doesn't take non-AAU schools. FSU isn't in the same stratosphere academically as the other B1G schools, something that DOES matter to the league.

    Last time the B1G looked too add a Florida school it was Miami.

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    Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 23, 2023 10:28PM

    FSU could easily get into the B!G. It would give the B!G territory in SEC country with a major national brand in a top 3 recruiting state. The issue is the grant of rights. They could leave the conference tomorrow for 130 million but they like every team are worthless without their grant of rights. It would mean not being able to broadcast their home games or having to give the ACC the money for it among other things.

    Theres more than one B!G school that isnt a part of the AAU and if thats what was important they would have been chasing Colorado or Standford/Cal which they had no interest in. Simply getting in the conference increases the chances of acceptance anyways. Arizona and ASU are also members.

    Neither the B!G nor the SEC have much interest in expanding at the moment but would if the ACC fell apart. Washington and Oregon and to beg for months to get in and agree to take a half media share meaning they get a half payment that increases 1 million a year and wont be getting a full media share until 2030-2031 season.

    Money from the TV deal would be the issue not the AAU

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    coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Las Vegas bowl

    Northwestern 14

    Utah 7

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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @Bullsitter said:

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    I'm hearing that FSU will end up joining the BIG10....avoiding the SEC again.

    From where? FSU isn't an AAU school and the B1G doesn't take non-AAU schools. FSU isn't in the same stratosphere academically as the other B1G schools, something that DOES matter to the league.

    Last time the B1G looked too add a Florida school it was Miami.

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    I heard it on the Paul Finebaum Show. He had a guest on that was talking possible landing spots for FSU.
    You can also google FSU to the BIG10.
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    So, the BIG10 is in "another stratosphere academically" than others.
    Is that why they copy everything the SEC does?

    In 1992 the SEC adds 2 teams, splits into 2 divisions and adds a conference championship game.
    In 2010 the BIG adds 1 team and does the same, smart move by them.

    In 2020, the Covid year, the BIG suspends football for the year UNTIL they find out the SEC is playing a 10-game season with a conference championship game. On October 24 the BIG scrambles to get a 7-game season and championship game. They did well and OSU made the National Championship game..... B)

    In 2022 the SEC added Texas and Oklahoma.
    In 2023 BIG added USC and UCLA.

    In 2023 Michigan got caught cheating, whoops, not so smart.......DOES that matter to the league?

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