I enjoy the conference banter… Penn State joined the Big 10 in 1990. Football didn’t start until 1993 probably due to existing independent game contracts playing themselves out, but the other sports started almost immediately. SC and Ark joined in 1991. Did the SEC react to B1G or vice versa?
If the B1G worships the SEC so much, I wish they would have followed the SECs lead and allowed the playoff to start this year - this lull between conference championships and the real bowl games is rough. I watch my share of bowl games, but having a few meaningful playoff games a week instead of 2 6-6 teams squaring off? Sign me up NOW!
@Bullsitter said: Is that why they copy everything the SEC does.
What are we, teenagers now?? I think everyone should get ready for the next big snowfall we have up where I live, then you can all bundle up in your snowsuits and go out in the snow and fight it out. That way nobody should get hurt and when your each on the ground you can make some big-headed snow angels.
@Maywood said: @Bullsitter said: Is that why they copy everything the SEC does.
What are we, teenagers now?? I think everyone should get ready for the next big snowfall we have up where I live, then you can all bundle up in your snowsuits and go out in the snow and fight it out. That way nobody should get hurt and when your each on the ground you can make some big-headed snow angels.
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I'm hearing that FSU will end up joining the BIG10....avoiding the SEC again.
From where? FSU isn't an AAU school and the B1G doesn't take non-AAU schools. FSU isn't in the same stratosphere academically as the other B1G schools, something that DOES matter to the league.
Last time the B1G looked too add a Florida school it was Miami.
I wonder if the Big 10 changed that with the admission of Oregon!? They don't seem to be the same academic caliber as UCLA, U$C or U-dub!?
As I have mentioned before I work at Allegiant Stadium so I was there. Northwestern's defense looked like an SEC team going against a high school team. It was pointed out to me that Utah lost a ton of talent to the portal and the NFL draft prep process but geez the U offense couldn't move the ball.
Both those offenses looked like an Iowa practice. The weird part was Utah let their QB play even though hes in the transfer portal. I guess one of the court rulings changed the rule about that, but why let someone play that doesnt want to be there.
In other Bowl news. South Alabama beat Eastern Michigan 59-10 and while South Alabama was watching the band play their song an Eastern Michigan player decided to run across the field and sucker punch one of them in the back of the head.
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I'm hearing that FSU will end up joining the BIG10....avoiding the SEC again.
From where? FSU isn't an AAU school and the B1G doesn't take non-AAU schools. FSU isn't in the same stratosphere academically as the other B1G schools, something that DOES matter to the league.
Last time the B1G looked too add a Florida school it was Miami.
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I heard it on the Paul Finebaum Show. He had a guest on that was talking possible landing spots for FSU.
You can also google FSU to the BIG10.
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So, the BIG10 is in "another stratosphere academically" than others.
Is that why they copy everything the SEC does?
In 1992 the SEC adds 2 teams, splits into 2 divisions and adds a conference championship game.
In 2010 the BIG adds 1 team and does the same, smart move by them.
In 2020, the Covid year, the BIG suspends football for the year UNTIL they find out the SEC is playing a 10-game season with a conference championship game. On October 24 the BIG scrambles to get a 7-game season and championship game. They did well and OSU made the National Championship game.....
In 2022 the SEC added Texas and Oklahoma.
In 2023 BIG added USC and UCLA.
In 2023 Michigan got caught cheating, whoops, not so smart.......DOES that matter to the league?
That's a lot of words to....... say nothing relevant to the point you replied to.
@Bullsitter said:
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I'm hearing that FSU will end up joining the BIG10....avoiding the SEC again.
From where? FSU isn't an AAU school and the B1G doesn't take non-AAU schools. FSU isn't in the same stratosphere academically as the other B1G schools, something that DOES matter to the league.
Last time the B1G looked too add a Florida school it was Miami.
I wonder if the Big 10 changed that with the admission of Oregon!? They don't seem to be the same academic caliber as UCLA, U$C or U-dub!?
Oregon is in the AAU. Might not be UCLA but still miles ahead of FSU.
@Bullsitter said:
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I'm hearing that FSU will end up joining the BIG10....avoiding the SEC again.
From where? FSU isn't an AAU school and the B1G doesn't take non-AAU schools. FSU isn't in the same stratosphere academically as the other B1G schools, something that DOES matter to the league.
Last time the B1G looked too add a Florida school it was Miami.
I wonder if the Big 10 changed that with the admission of Oregon!? They don't seem to be the same academic caliber as UCLA, U$C or U-dub!?
Oregon is in the AAU. Might not be UCLA but still miles ahead of FSU.
ASU, Arizona, Colorado, Cal, Stanford are all in it. All schools they had a chance take and werent willing to give media shares too. Oregon got nothing for being in it and doesnt have a full media share for over 5 years.
They arent miles ahead of FSU. All the power schools are basically the same academically. They are all very good at some things and not good at others. The size of the school plays a role but the AAU is not playing a role in conference decisions, future earnings potential with the next media deal along with what the schools will vote for is. Getting a FL team would without question be desirable. They arent chasing GW, Tuffs, BU, Rice etc because the AAU is most important
Oregons Nike connection and his desire to get them into the B!G and their willingness to take a half media share with no other real options for a power conference is what did it
Targeting Arizona, ASU or both would have actually been smart. Its a big recruiting state but they didnt
@Bullsitter said:
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I'm hearing that FSU will end up joining the BIG10....avoiding the SEC again.
From where? FSU isn't an AAU school and the B1G doesn't take non-AAU schools. FSU isn't in the same stratosphere academically as the other B1G schools, something that DOES matter to the league.
Last time the B1G looked too add a Florida school it was Miami.
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I heard it on the Paul Finebaum Show. He had a guest on that was talking possible landing spots for FSU.
You can also google FSU to the BIG10.
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So, the BIG10 is in "another stratosphere academically" than others.
Is that why they copy everything the SEC does?
In 1992 the SEC adds 2 teams, splits into 2 divisions and adds a conference championship game.
In 2010 the BIG adds 1 team and does the same, smart move by them.
In 2020, the Covid year, the BIG suspends football for the year UNTIL they find out the SEC is playing a 10-game season with a conference championship game. On October 24 the BIG scrambles to get a 7-game season and championship game. They did well and OSU made the National Championship game.....
In 2022 the SEC added Texas and Oklahoma.
In 2023 BIG added USC and UCLA.
In 2023 Michigan got caught cheating, whoops, not so smart.......DOES that matter to the league?
That's a lot of words to....... say nothing relevant to the point you replied to.
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But I answered your question, you haven't answered mine.
But I answered your question, you haven't answered mine.
Sorry, didn't see your question.
I would say, yes, the league cares about Michigan's alleged misdeeds. And they are being investigated.
The B!G has already issued their punishments as an attempt to get lower NCAA punishments or set up Harbaugh to take the fall for any NCAA punishments if institutional control was part of it. Their interest (which it should be) is protecting Michigan and setting up a fall guy if necessary. The B!G is far more concerned about not getting penalties on their best team than a coach
The NCAA and to some extent the FBI are the ones investigating Michigan
Oklahoma State defeats SEC power Texas A@M 31 - 23
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Congrats to Okie State, but A&M that finished 7-6 is hardly a SEC Power.
To me, there are just 2 SEC Power teams this year, Georgia and the other one.
The Texas A&M team that played yesterday was their backups and freshman.
They had 3 players declare for the draft. They had only 3 WRs on the roster. They only had 55 scholarship players which is so low its getting close to the game would be canceled territory.
Aside from the 3 players that went to the draft their QB transferred to UNC, their elite LT transferred to Alabama, their elite WR is in the portal and didnt play, and the Number 1 rated player in the portal elite 5 star almost perfect rating DL Nolan transferred to Ole Miss.
They win that game if they had all their players. The fact that game was even close is a win for A&M
We really need to start letting transfers play in the games if their new school wants them to and its not a playoff game. Its getting old seeing all these games with teams without QBs and missing massive elements
Miami another good example. QB and one of their better WRs both transferred. Starting guard, starting center, both starting safeties, starting DT all opted out.
Oklahoma will be interesting. QB transferred but they have a stud freshman who will get a chance tonight. Problem is their tackle and center both opted out, 3 running backs transferred, a starting guard is transferring and their offensive coordinator has left to be the new Mississippi State head coach. Arnold is certainly being thrown into the deep end against Arizona in this one.
NC/Kansas State. Over/Under 47.5. final score 47. Oh how do they do it. . Whomever sets these lines, with their "skill" hope they play the lottery. Last night o/u 54.5, final score 54 OS/Texas AM.
Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
Kanasas State having to go over 200 yards and score 3 TDs on the second to last drive was wild. Very weak penalty call on the passing TD that got called back
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Kanasas State having to go over 200 yards and score 3 TDs on the second to last drive was wild. Very weak penalty call on the passing TD that got called back
Ah yes the convenient holding call.
Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
Miami had their starting QB transfer, both of their starting safeties opt out, their DT, their Center and left guard opt out, and a RB transfer. They were without 7 starters.
Outside of the playoff teams, the more talented a team is the more they have been and will be missing in these bowl games
Oklahoma had to start their freshman QB with a brand new Oline with their Center and Tackle opting out and their guard transferring.
I feel bad for Shipley who looks like he had a serious leg injury. Theres never a good time to get hurt, but its an extra kick to the groin when it happens with only a couple minutes left in the season.
Kentucky needs to invest in some Spider Tack with all those fumbles
@Steven59 said:
Buckeyes should've just stayed home.
Missing their best player and had alot of transfers to the portal including their quarterback. Then when their 2nd string QB went down they had no chance. I dont blame this loss on the coach.
OSU had one starter in the portal McCord who wasnt very good. They had Harrison opt out, thats it every other starter played including guys planing to go to the NFL for OSU
@Steven59 said:
Buckeyes should've just stayed home.
Missing their best player and had alot of transfers to the portal including their quarterback. Then when their 2nd string QB went down they had no chance. I dont blame this loss on the coach.
Surprised the o/u so high,51.
Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
Dont pay any attention to the guy above. He hates Ohio State. He dont speak the truth.
McCord had the 7th best QB rating in the country(83.3)
Ohio State status report showed 9 players out of the Missouri game. And that doesn't even include the players that already got transferred to other teams after the Michigan game.
WR Nolan Baudo
LB Tommy Eichenberg
WR Marvin Harrison Jr.
TE Zak Herbstreit
S Lathan Ransom
WR Reis Stocksdale
OT Miles Walker
LB Kourt Williams II
RB Miyan Williams
@Steven59 said:
Buckeyes should've just stayed home.
Missing their best player and had alot of transfers to the portal including their quarterback. Then when their 2nd string QB went down they had no chance. I dont blame this loss on the coach.
Surprised the o/u so high,51.
It wasnt a terrible over under considering basically everyone played. Backups transferring that didnt play all year mean nothing
A lot of conservative play calling during the game and a couple very very OSU favorited calls that could have easily been Missou TDs or at least FGs. They didnt really start passing until the 4th
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I enjoy the conference banter… Penn State joined the Big 10 in 1990. Football didn’t start until 1993 probably due to existing independent game contracts playing themselves out, but the other sports started almost immediately. SC and Ark joined in 1991. Did the SEC react to B1G or vice versa?
If the B1G worships the SEC so much, I wish they would have followed the SECs lead and allowed the playoff to start this year - this lull between conference championships and the real bowl games is rough. I watch my share of bowl games, but having a few meaningful playoff games a week instead of 2 6-6 teams squaring off? Sign me up NOW!
Jim
@Bullsitter said: Is that why they copy everything the SEC does.
What are we, teenagers now??
I think everyone should get ready for the next big snowfall we have up where I live, then you can all bundle up in your snowsuits and go out in the snow and fight it out. That way nobody should get hurt and when your each on the ground you can make some big-headed snow angels.
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Sounds like you have experience....
The 1st round bout will be @Bullsitter vs. @coolstanley.
I wonder if the Big 10 changed that with the admission of Oregon!? They don't seem to be the same academic caliber as UCLA, U$C or U-dub!?
As I have mentioned before I work at Allegiant Stadium so I was there. Northwestern's defense looked like an SEC team going against a high school team. It was pointed out to me that Utah lost a ton of talent to the portal and the NFL draft prep process but geez the U offense couldn't move the ball.
Both those offenses looked like an Iowa practice. The weird part was Utah let their QB play even though hes in the transfer portal. I guess one of the court rulings changed the rule about that, but why let someone play that doesnt want to be there.
In other Bowl news. South Alabama beat Eastern Michigan 59-10 and while South Alabama was watching the band play their song an Eastern Michigan player decided to run across the field and sucker punch one of them in the back of the head.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
That's a lot of words to....... say nothing relevant to the point you replied to.
Oregon is in the AAU. Might not be UCLA but still miles ahead of FSU.
Nebraska is the only B1G - current or confirmed future - that’s not in the AAU. They were at the time they joined, but not anymore.
Jim
ASU, Arizona, Colorado, Cal, Stanford are all in it. All schools they had a chance take and werent willing to give media shares too. Oregon got nothing for being in it and doesnt have a full media share for over 5 years.
They arent miles ahead of FSU. All the power schools are basically the same academically. They are all very good at some things and not good at others. The size of the school plays a role but the AAU is not playing a role in conference decisions, future earnings potential with the next media deal along with what the schools will vote for is. Getting a FL team would without question be desirable. They arent chasing GW, Tuffs, BU, Rice etc because the AAU is most important
Oregons Nike connection and his desire to get them into the B!G and their willingness to take a half media share with no other real options for a power conference is what did it
Targeting Arizona, ASU or both would have actually been smart. Its a big recruiting state but they didnt
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
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But I answered your question, you haven't answered mine.
Sorry, didn't see your question.
I would say, yes, the league cares about Michigan's alleged misdeeds. And they are being investigated.
The B!G has already issued their punishments as an attempt to get lower NCAA punishments or set up Harbaugh to take the fall for any NCAA punishments if institutional control was part of it. Their interest (which it should be) is protecting Michigan and setting up a fall guy if necessary. The B!G is far more concerned about not getting penalties on their best team than a coach
The NCAA and to some extent the FBI are the ones investigating Michigan
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
I'm watching 9 of the 12....
BIG 10 gets another bowl victory.
Detroit bowl
Minnesota - 30
Bowling Green - 24
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
Bragging about barely beating Bowling Green is just funny
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Texas bowl
Oklahoma State defeats SEC power Texas A@M 31 - 23
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
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Congrats to Minnesota, they won their bowl game and still finished 6-7.
How does a 5-7 team get a bowl?
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Congrats to Okie State, but A&M that finished 7-6 is hardly a SEC Power.
To me, there are just 2 SEC Power teams this year, Georgia and the other one.
@Bullsitter said:
43 bowl games this year, that's how
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Thanks, good luck against FSU.
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O/U was 54.5. Uncanny how they put the number right on. Course OS missed the FG at the end to ensure the under.
Played the last 17 minutes without a score.
The Texas A&M team that played yesterday was their backups and freshman.
They had 3 players declare for the draft. They had only 3 WRs on the roster. They only had 55 scholarship players which is so low its getting close to the game would be canceled territory.
Aside from the 3 players that went to the draft their QB transferred to UNC, their elite LT transferred to Alabama, their elite WR is in the portal and didnt play, and the Number 1 rated player in the portal elite 5 star almost perfect rating DL Nolan transferred to Ole Miss.
They win that game if they had all their players. The fact that game was even close is a win for A&M
We really need to start letting transfers play in the games if their new school wants them to and its not a playoff game. Its getting old seeing all these games with teams without QBs and missing massive elements
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Miami Hurricanes.....
.....thank you Rutgers.
Miami another good example. QB and one of their better WRs both transferred. Starting guard, starting center, both starting safeties, starting DT all opted out.
Oklahoma will be interesting. QB transferred but they have a stud freshman who will get a chance tonight. Problem is their tackle and center both opted out, 3 running backs transferred, a starting guard is transferring and their offensive coordinator has left to be the new Mississippi State head coach. Arnold is certainly being thrown into the deep end against Arizona in this one.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
NC/Kansas State. Over/Under 47.5. final score 47. Oh how do they do it.
. Whomever sets these lines, with their "skill" hope they play the lottery. Last night o/u 54.5, final score 54 OS/Texas AM.
Kanasas State having to go over 200 yards and score 3 TDs on the second to last drive was wild. Very weak penalty call on the passing TD that got called back
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Ah yes the convenient holding call.
Forgot which game yesterday, but one team was penalized for a total of 210 yards. Can't ever recall one team penalized so much.
Kansas against UNLV. They ended up winning but had 18 penalties for 216 yards. UNLV had 9 for 99. That crew was very flag happy
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
BIG TEN gets another bowl win
Yankee stadium pinstripe bowl
Rutgers 31 Miami Hurricanes 24
BIG TEN has won this bowl 7 straight years.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
Miami had their starting QB transfer, both of their starting safeties opt out, their DT, their Center and left guard opt out, and a RB transfer. They were without 7 starters.
Outside of the playoff teams, the more talented a team is the more they have been and will be missing in these bowl games
Oklahoma had to start their freshman QB with a brand new Oline with their Center and Tackle opting out and their guard transferring.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Wild 4th quarter, Clempson beats Kentucky.
I feel bad for Shipley who looks like he had a serious leg injury. Theres never a good time to get hurt, but its an extra kick to the groin when it happens with only a couple minutes left in the season.
Kentucky needs to invest in some Spider Tack with all those fumbles
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Another Bowl loss for the SEC.
Gator bowl
Clemson defeats SEC power Kentucky 38 - 35
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
Ohio State up 3-0 3rd quarter. Does anyone know how to score in this game? OS just missed a FG.
Ohio State down to a 3rd string freshman quarterback. No way they win this game.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
Buckeyes should've just stayed home.
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
OSU only had one opt out Harrison Jr
Missouri dominated OSUs offensive line.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Missing their best player and had alot of transfers to the portal including their quarterback. Then when their 2nd string QB went down they had no chance. I dont blame this loss on the coach.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
OSU had one starter in the portal McCord who wasnt very good. They had Harrison opt out, thats it every other starter played including guys planing to go to the NFL for OSU
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Surprised the o/u so high,51.
Dont pay any attention to the guy above. He hates Ohio State. He dont speak the truth.
McCord had the 7th best QB rating in the country(83.3)
Ohio State status report showed 9 players out of the Missouri game. And that doesn't even include the players that already got transferred to other teams after the Michigan game.
WR Nolan Baudo
LB Tommy Eichenberg
WR Marvin Harrison Jr.
TE Zak Herbstreit
S Lathan Ransom
WR Reis Stocksdale
OT Miles Walker
LB Kourt Williams II
RB Miyan Williams
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
It wasnt a terrible over under considering basically everyone played. Backups transferring that didnt play all year mean nothing
A lot of conservative play calling during the game and a couple very very OSU favorited calls that could have easily been Missou TDs or at least FGs. They didnt really start passing until the 4th
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
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Well, well, well.....the first loss for the BIG10
Cotton Bowl
Mizzou whips BIG10 3rd place finisher, OSU, 14-3
*** Class act when Mizzou took a knee at the end.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner.......
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3 good games today.....
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