2023 college football thread
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Instead of starting a 2023 CFB Thread now, can we at least wait until after MLB opening Day or better yet- after the 4th of July- so there can be new and well thought out excuses and/or bragging rights for the upcoming season?
Edited to correct typo MBL to MLB... Hopefully that was not the only humor to be found here
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Yea they stuck it to Bama and Georgia has a brutal schedule as well for 2024. Two toughest schedules in the country that year. They should both be able to lose 3 games and make the expanded playoffs but they're very likely going to be more towards the 8-12 range than their usual 1-4 with those schedules.
Strong week 1 with a couple good matchups, week 2 not as good but not the usual throwaway either. Bout time the Aggies and Longhorns started playing again, its a shame that Oklahoma State is throwing a hissy fit and wont play Oklahoma anymore though
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Kirby also consistently says they're underdogs and everyone doubts them. Nothings ever good enough for him which is one reason why theyre elite. It is always funny to hear though
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Have you seen Georgia's schedule this year? Talk about a calk walk
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Its really not the cake walk its being made out to be by the media even if they do make it look easy. Oklahoma was supposed to be on it over Ball State but they were forced to cancel the game because of Oklahoma joining the SEC next year. They at least try and have one hard out of conference game unlike others in many conferences.
That said SC is a wild card. Rattler finished the season looking like he was back to his Heisman form when he was the preseason Heisman favorite. If that Rattler shows up it should be a tough game, if not it wont be close. At Auburn is never fun and Freeze has added a lot of talent there. Kentucky is significantly improved at QB with Leary coming who was the ACC preseason player of the year before hurting his shoulder last year. Florida is still a good team that beat the PAC 12 champs last year they just arent up to Florida standards or maybe they are. Ole Miss is a good team with one of the best offenses and arguably the best RB in the country.
Tennessee in Tennessee is not an easy game and the most interesting regardless of what their record is. Milton is either going to prove hes the guy (he has the strongest arm in college football if he can be accurate) or by that time their super stud freshman will probably be taking the snaps.
Its not an easy schedule. There are easier schedules, but there are no easy SEC schedules. People are just calling it that because they think that GA is that much better than everyone else and they very well could be. Just because a super team makes something look easy doesnt mean it is.
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According to the ESPN commentators on college football live the other day, it is indeed a easy schedule. They both predicted that they will go 12-0 with that schedule. No Alabama or LSU. Florida had a losing record last year. AT Tennessee is by far their toughest game. Its too bad the SEC''s best teams dont play each other(unlike in the BIG TEN).
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ESPN isnt a real analysis. They are there for ratings. Again, just because a team makes something look easy doesn't mean it is
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Well written and spot on! Nicely done.
Georgia non-conference schedule.- UT Martin, UAB, Ball State. They play one team that finished in the top 20 last year(Tennesee).
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Read above. I broke down their schedule already including their out of conference. No one schedules more than one hard out of conference game and their game with Oklahoma was canceled for legal reasons. It was going to be a 1 and 1 home and away. With Oklahoma leaving the Big 12 after this year and only playing one game of the series it would have been a legal mess over what conference gets what money and couldnt even have it as an out of conference game the second year anyways.
The only easy game is Vandy and even they arent the complete doormat they once were.
Rankings dont go top 20 they go top 25 and SC was ranked after beating Clemson. Again Flordia beat the PAC 12 champion Utah. There are no easy SEC schedules
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Disagree. Yeah its not Georgia's fault about Oklahoma. It still doesn't take away the fact that they have an easy schedule. And Georgia is 16-0 the last two years during the regular season in their conference. But no easy sec schedules?
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Just because a super team makes something look easy doesnt mean it is easy. South Carolina beat Clemson, Florida beat Utah the Pac 12 champions a conference which supposedly has multiple ranked teams which is a different story about the make up of the current committee.
Georgia is winning any conference you put them in the last two years. They shouldnt have to play Alabama and LSU every week to say they have a hard schedule.
There are no easy SEC schedules just because a super team makes something look easy. Georgias record (Alabama did beat them in the SEC title game in 2021 and then GA beat them in the Natty when Alabamas two best WRs tore their ACLs) is a result of how good they are, not something being easy.
GA had 5 first round draft picks in 2022 which is unheard of
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Not sure about that one. They beat the Big tens second best team last year in Atlanta by one point. They play Alabama about once every 8 or 9 yrs in the regular season. The fans deserve more. Awful just awful.
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A lot to unpack here. Georgia and Alabama pretty consistently play in the SEC championship or the Natty. They dont play consistently in the regular season because they are in different divisions just like every single other conference does it. They arent even rivals, theyre only rivals now because theyre both super teams and the Kirby Saban connection.
The B!G wasnt a good conference last year. It had two teams. Some would argue Penn State as a 3rd, but aside from Utah they lost to every good team they played. Rutgers is a joke so is Indiana. Northwestern was the worst program in the power 5 with Colorado and Nebraska wasnt far behind. Perdue won the west and looked like children playing against LSU even with LSU having multiple opt outs for the draft.
Even though OSU lost to Michigan OSU was the best team in the B1G. OSU just has a Ryan Day problem because he cant seem to figure out Michigan. They out recruit Michigan (usually significantly) and have more talent on the roster and its not as close as people might think.
Georgia without question wins the B1G or any other conference the last two years. The only reason the OSU game was close was because Stetson Bennett forgot how to play football for 2.5 quarters. He was missing open guys left and right. He will go down as one of the weirdest QBs in college. At any given time he could be either the worst player or one of the best players on the field. Hes not a good QB much less a great one other that he seems to be for about 1-2 quarters a game. Once he remembered how to play OSU couldnt stop them.
Georgia also made Michigan look like children the year before in the playoffs. Michigan came back this year and got dominated by TCU. TCU scored less than 5 minutes into the game and held the lead for the rest of the game. The game was never even tied again. TCU then got destroyed by GA.
The the SEC has won 13 of the last 17 national titles and 5 different teams have done it. The SEC has the most players drafted every year for over a decade now and has the most players in the NFL by a wide margin.
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Lol almost everything you said above is complete nonsense. I'm not even going to bother. How old are you like 9?
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My fault, I was interested in actual college football conversations but apparently that isnt going to happen
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Colorado is leaving the Pac 12 for the Big 12, another team is expected to join them. The death of the Pac 12 is officially starting
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Colorado just returned to their real home conference- Nebraska and Missouri should join them
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Theyd have to be crazy to do so. The Big 12 has a good media deal but the SEC and B1G have deals that blow everyone else out of the water. Theyre basically like NFL QBs where they just keep breaking each others record deals everytime one of them signs a new deal.
Arizona is the most likely next one to join. The Arizona board of regents wants to stay in the same conference as ASU who is hesitant, but theres a reason why the PAC 12 (Pac 9) cant get a tv deal and its not going to match the Big 12s or likely even the ACCs really bad deal. Theres not really any legitimate replacements for the Pac 12 either. Stanford and Cal think Fresno State is beneath them and San Diego State would now have to pay a 34 million buyout after pulling a Red October Marco Ramius sending a letter that they were leaving and the Pac 12 not giving them the offer. Those are really the only two schools in the west that have any value for other conferences.
Theres going to be a serious discussion in a year or two whether or not the Pac 12 deserves an automatic bid in the expanded playoffs and the answer will likely be no now that we are down to a Power 4 not Power 5
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We have Mr Larry Scott to thank for the PAC 12 11 10 9.
Telling Texas and Oklahoma no in 2011 when they wanted to join the Pac 12 really is one of the dumbest decisions of all time. The only thing dumber was how long they allowed him to remain commissioner
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Looks like its down to the Pac 8 now. The same person that broke the Colorado is reporting Arizona to the Big 12 is a done deal and is expected to be announced in the next day or two
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hey thisistheshow,
I sometimes go with popcorn while watching hockey....
sometimes wings for college hoops....
during/watching NFL I don't eat....I just watch and let my blood pressure get out of control...
I normally don't eat watching college football....I Get Too Panicky....
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I don't know that I have any rules like that, although I will say that I sometimes wish I planned out my sports snacking a bit better. For a big game like the SB I will.
Based on what you wrote, when you are nervous or panicked you don't feel like eating. This is common. Not me. I am the opposite. Lol.
Arizona State joined the PAC 8 with Arizona 40+ years ago. With Arizona leaving it would not surprise me to see the Sundevils join the exodus. Utah may follow suit leaving the two Washington schools, the two Oregon schools, Stanford and Cal.
The AZ board of regents is meeting today to discuss it. Theres rumors the AZ president is going to try and convince the board not to do it unless ASU and Utah come along because he fears being know as the guy that destroyed the PAC whatever number its going to be. Of course the conference really destroyed itself. ASU and Utah have publicly shown support for the PAC but have talked to the Big 12 behind the scenes.
The PAC presented its media deal proposal to members today, and it is a joke. Its a deal with Apple tv based off of selling streaming subscriptions for their games. It has escalators in it based of of subscriptions sold but PAC games already had the smallest tv audiences from the game times and I cant see them hitting many if any of them when you can watch the other conferences on network and cable tv and not have to get yet another streaming service.
AZ would be silly to not go to the Big 12 and ASU and Utah would be foolish not to follow if they have the opportunity. Oregon and Washington really want to go to the B!G, but they dont seem to want them and those two may be picking up the phone with the Big 12 after this proposal.
Hopefully AZ just goes and lets get this over with. If they dont leave now they will after the next deal, no need to drag it out
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Stanford would likely be a target of one of the other big conferences, but Cal may see the powers that be turn their attention away from it's athletic programs.
I doubt Standford would get any attention from the Power 4. The ACC makes no sense, the SEC would just laugh in their face and the teams they want to expand with are stuck in the ACC for 13 more years on that bad tv deal until someone can figure out how to break it.
Both Stanford and Cal think the Big 12 is beneath them. Dont forget when Texas/Oklahoma/USC/UCLA all announced they were leaving there was some legitimate momentum to combine the Big 12 and Pac 12 as a "super conference" to combat what the SEC and B1G had done. Standford and Cal were both clear they wouldnt play in a conference with religious teams and were very against it. I doubt the Big 12 sees much if any value in them at this point.
That really just leaves the B1G where they would be in the same situation as Oregon and Washington but worse. Theyd be approved as an acceptable school and then nothing would happen because they would be viewed as a net negative for schools that dont add enough value to justify a media share which is why Oregon and Washington couldnt get offers to join
Neither program just really has much value, their fan bases are small and just dont care. Stanfords even threatened to stop being a D1 program before because they didnt want to be known as a sports school when they were actually really good.
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As a Cal man I will say that things don't look promising for the PAC. I just don't see a way forward for the conference. This might be our last year of conference play.
Thanks Larry Scott.
The B1G has started internal discussions about expanding to 18 teams which would be Oregon and Washington. The Nike founder or cofounder whose a big Oregon guy has been lobbying them to take Oregon for months now. Theres even some wispers that they may be willing to take less than a full media share if thats the only way given that a 3/4th share would still be basically double PAC money.
Just another reason Arizona would have to be crazy to turn down the Big 12 offer,
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Iowa State's QB Hunter Dekkers is facing charges related to gambling on college sporting events.
Iowa kicker Jon Blom is facing charges for placing bets on his own team's games using his mom's account - with her knowledge and help - while underage.
They are said to be the tip of the iceberg.
Dekkers is just an idiot. He placed a bet on his own team in a public bar. Hes almost certainly going to get a lifetime ban from the NCAA
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The presidents of the B1G have told the commissioner to get them more info on Oregon and Washington but have approved the idea of expanding to 18 teams. USC is adamantly opposed to adding more west coast teams but they dont have a vote and the B1G doesnt care what they think. This doesnt mean an offer is coming, but its the next step towards one. It is widely believed and nothing indicates otherwise that Oregon and Washington would have to take reduced media shares if they want to join.
The Arizona board of regents is meeting today as well. They have control over Arizona and ASU. The Big 12 is voting on ASU and Arizona today. The Arizona vote is just a formality they will get an invite, ASU likely will as well. The Arizona president is expected to ask the board of regents permission to give the Pac whatever it is now notice they're leaving for the Big 12 after the vote. The board of regents will have to approve the move
Theres rumors that the Big 12 might just go ahead an vote on Utah as well during their meeting
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Stanford, Cal, Udub and Ore go B1G
Four corners go Big12
Wash st and Ore St go Mtn West.
The six Pac teams in B1G play 5 games along with their three preseason games. That leaves four games with original B1G ....2 home and 2 travel games.
The B1G will accept Cal and Stanford and Udub and Ore with a lessor Initial TV revenue share that will still be better than the Apple TV weak offer.
The first coast to coast super conference with nearly continuous live football.
Its not clear whether or not the B1G has any interest in Cal and Standford. It was discussed to go to 20 but only been approved to go to 18 so far and they're waiting on the Big 12 before they go any further. They have more leverage for a smaller media deal with Oregon and Washington if the Arizonas leave first
The last B1G commissioner really messed up their tv deal which is one of the reasons he left for the Bears. Unlike the SEC and Big 12 when the B1G adds an expansion team they dont get more money on their tv deal, it just takes money away from the other other schools which makes Cal and Stanford very unattractive
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Baseball, let me let you in on a little talked about secret. B1G doesn't care about Cal and Stanford football. They want them for access to the incredible federal research grants that Cal and Stanford get.
The billions that Cal and Stanford get dwarf FOX TV money.
Research grants arent shared though. They definitely care about the fact that any school that gets added means less money for everyone else
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I can't imagine any power 5 conference wants Cal. Stanford yes but not Cal. They are in financial ruins and have not had a good basketball or football team in a long time. Even with the watered down Rose Bowl rules of recent years they haven't been since the 1950's or so. Basketball not much better. They tell you they focus on academics but starting when they let Russell White in, 30 years ago, that went out the door. Sad sad sad.
Why would research money be shared? That seems odd. You sure about that?
The Pac 4 tried to get everyone to sign a grant of rights to stay together this morning and schools refused.
Hasnt been officially announced yet but Arizona, ASU, and Utah have all applied for membership in the Big 12.
Oregon and Washington have offers have the B1G they are expected to announce they are accepting. Its not clear what media shares they will get but even splinting 1 share would be basically double that terrible streaming deal in the PAC. The B1G traditionally doesnt give full shares to new teams with USC and UCLA being an exception. They were likely an exception because they announced right around the new tv deal which probably added money to account for them
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The BIG 10 about to be the BIG 20 LOL. They will have quite a few traditional powers with these PAC 10 teams.
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I've been put on suicide watch.
Big day for the BIG 10 as they now expand to 18 teams. The BIG 1O and SEC are now super conferences. Looking forward to all the potential great matchups now during the regular season. Michigan vs USC, Ohio State vs UCLA, Penn State vs Oregon, Wisconsin vs Washington, USC vs Penn State, etc.
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