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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    201!

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  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Temporary inflation for next 20 years ;)

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 4, 2021 2:01AM

    @derryb said:
    FedEx, UPS Raises Rates At Fastest Pace In Decade

    Transitory (temporary) inflation? Ha. When was the last time you saw increased prices come back down?

    Regardless of what the FED whispers in your ear, current inflation is not transitory, it is structural; higher prices are here to stay. The coming disinflation (once supply chain issues settle down) will only halt the rise, not reduce prices.

    @DNADave said:

    OMG, why am I even bothering with this? Are you people just being deliberately obtuse? it's like trying to discuss something with a 5 year old.

    Thanks!

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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,129 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I bought a stock last week at 78 and today is 85. Almost a 10% increase in just a week. Argh!!!!

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  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Look at that price, LOL. Then look at how there is almost not marbling on those steaks, were the cows being starved??? Looks like I’ll have to check out the local grocery stores instead... don’t worry guys it’s just “transitory”.

  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 4, 2021 12:10PM

    @ShadyDave said:
    Look at that price, LOL. Then look at how there is almost not marbling on those steaks, were the cows being starved??? Looks like I’ll have to check out the local grocery stores instead... don’t worry guys it’s just “transitory”.

    Outrageous....not even Prime. ;)

    If you're looking for Prime beef with lots of marbling, but it will cost you, try the below link for K.C. Steaks

    Forgot to mention...that's the same price that it was 1 year ago. I know, I ordered 6 10ozers. B)

    https://www.kansascitysteaks.com/product/ribeye-steak

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 4, 2021 3:56PM

    I bought ribeye and t-bone local grass fed and local butchered Saturday for $7.99 a lb (inflated no doubt) but..........still pays to "look" around. Costco is like Derby paying $30+ at apmex for ase's when he could be buying them @ $22.

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  • JimWJimW Posts: 561 ✭✭✭✭

    The premium for prime grade seems to be dropping, I can get prime for only a few bucks more a pound than choice at the local grocery store. But the grading is variable, so as with coins, buy the steak not the holder.
    I also cherry pick choice at Costco, which sometimes has better marbling than the prime.
    @ShadyDave I think those in the picture would not get a CAC sticker for choice grade!!

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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And now the government is considering minting a ONE TRILLION DOLLAR platinum coin. In an attempt to circle around the current debt limit ceiling limit coming up in a few days. Wonder what effect that will have on inflation if it takes place??

    https://www.axios.com/trillion-dollar-platinum-coin-mint-janet-yellen-223e7722-d7ba-47c9-b5f6-49a841d181de.html

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,824 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the value of fiat money has always been the value acknowledged by the receiving party. If the FED is willing to accept and carry it on it's books for $1 Trillion, then it is worth $1 Trillion.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I gottsa $28T Palladium coin. Sukaz! lol!!

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2021 2:22PM

    “Shortages” Aren’t Causing Inflation. Money Creation Is.

    "If the recent surge in inflation were driven by a shortage of goods rather than an increase in the money supply, then aggregate output would be shrinking."

    It is not shrinking:

    Classic case of more money chasing goods and services. Keep in mind that price inflation fuels further price inflation as competitors join the "raise the price" bandwagon.

    Appears the MMT magic money tree is showing its ugly face.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,993 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is good to see those on Social Security getting a 5.9% raise for '22. The largest increase in 40 years is long overdue.

    Print on.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Print? Aren’t they planning to pay for everything with tax increases!?

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  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Remember the $3,500,000,000,000 costs zero according to Joe.

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,851 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Print? Aren’t they planning to pay for everything with tax increases!?

    They do love tax increases, but not because they would ever put a cap on money printing. Social engineering costs lots of "money" so you can expect both higher taxes and loss of purchasing power from your money as well.

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i was joking

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,851 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wish it were a joke.

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My bitcoins and Ethereum coins are surely inflating. Who would of thought fake imaginary coins would inflate, gold coins would stay flat and gutter coins would go down all while the price of everything else in the universe significantly increased? CRAZY WORLD! RGDS!!

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  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I pay attention to Williams on his site, SHADOW STATS. He states SSN increase should be 12%.

    I figure cash in my safe( or in the bank) is going to be worth at least 10% less next year . Scary.
    This calendar year, 20+% on my basket of goods.

    Have a nice day
  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    IIRC, in the early 70's we had price controls imposed. Didn't affect me because I was in school and had no money,

    BUT

    What a great time the Black Market guys had.

    Have a nice day
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,129 ✭✭✭✭✭

    .> @blitzdude said:

    Who would of thought....gutter coins would go down all while the price of everything else in the universe significantly increased? CRAZY WORLD! RGDS!!

    The irony is that even insurance has gone up. Lol

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  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Got the work email this week - all of our benefits costs going up. Will find out the percentages Wed.

    On the plus - first time they're offering a Roth401k alongside the regular 401 with same matching % scale. Interested in that one.

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like the inflation is here to stay for awhile. The free government money probably is the main contributor.

    But the supply and demand equation is another. With supply chain disruptions, empty shelves that are now common... that is also now driving prices upwards, and that does not appear to be going to change for some time even into next year. The question in my mind is... how wild is this inflation going to ramp up to?

    Could be a challenging winter for heating ones home.

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,824 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DrBuster said:

    On the plus - first time they're offering a Roth401k alongside the regular 401 with same matching % scale. Interested in that one.

    Will the employer or the roth holder have to pay the current year income tax on the matching contributions? Unlike a regular IRA, contributions are taxed as income in the year they are contributed. Of course the advantage is that all gains are earned tax free.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 16, 2021 9:53AM

    We don't have the SPD on it yet so I can't speak on the tax details. Should know something in the Wed meeting. It is the same match as the regular 401k though into the stock fund, so...?

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 16, 2021 10:03AM

    @DrBuster said:
    We don't have the SPD on it yet so I can't speak on the tax details. Should know something in the Wed meeting. It is the same match as the regular 401k though into the stock fund, so...?

    even if the roth holder gets taxed on employer contributions, they are only a drop in the bucket compared to the tax free earning potential of the account provided wise investments are made.

    A more important question is "who controls the investments," the account holder or the employer's choice of portfolio manager. A roth is only as good as the person making the trading decisions. The end of the "buy and hold" days is fast approaching. A savvy account holder who controls his own trading decisions would be wise to bone up on all the ETF possibilities.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm hoping it's more self directed toward individual investments instead of just another batch of the etfs. I'd prefer to do my own with this one.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,824 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tincup said:

    But the supply and demand equation is another. With supply chain disruptions, empty shelves that are now common... that is also now driving prices upwards, and that does not appear to be going to change for some time even into next year. The question in my mind is... how wild is this inflation going to ramp up to?

    Washington Post says "suck it up, buttercup." LOL

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My shelves are full. RGDS!

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 24, 2021 1:55PM

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 24, 2021 3:00PM

    @blitzdude said:
    My shelves are full. RGDS!

    Still a limit on the number of meals between your shelves and anarchy. You simply enter the turmoil with a fuller stomach than those that go to the grocery store weekly.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,129 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is this he mentions, " Socrates’ projected political Panic Cycle for 2023"?

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,824 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Socrates is his computer program that has been fairly accurate in forecasting.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Socrates is not a name I would associate with tarot card reading

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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @metalmeister said:
    Temporary inflation for next 20 years ;)

    Let's go Brandon!

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 25, 2021 5:51AM

    @MsMorrisine said:
    Socrates is not a name I would associate with tarot card reading

    Armstrong's toenail likely to have more economic knowledge and experience than anyone on an anonymous PM forum.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @blitzdude said:
    My shelves are full. RGDS!

    Still a limit on the number of meals between your shelves and anarchy. You simply enter the turmoil with a fuller stomach than those that go to the grocery store weekly.

    Cept my livestock, land and wildlife pretty much regenerate themselves. I suspect the day anarchy finds it's way up here to gods country.......well me, you and everyone else in our existence will be long gone. Prepare accordingly. Perhaps one day the gutter will inflate along with everything else on the planet. RGDS!

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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 25, 2021 5:53PM

    @derryb said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    Socrates is not a name I would associate with tarot card reading

    Armstrong's toenail likely to have more economic knowledge and experience than anyone on an anonymous PM forum.

    Smoe folk have an inkling of what they speak.😉

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those who happen to heat with propane... best keep the tank topped off as much as possible. Hearing much more about price/availability squeeze coming up.

    ----- kj
  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t know, but shouldn’t someone we would describe as a leader define a few priorities and get food and fuel where it needs to be and let the frivolous sh!t from China sit on the boats?

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DNADave said:
    I don’t know, but shouldn’t someone we would describe as a leader define a few priorities and get food and fuel where it needs to be and let the frivolous sh!t from China sit on the boats?

    Perhaps the bigger problem is previous admins becoming so dependent on other countries labour and resources? Nobody was biatching when They were making Trillions $$$$ offshoring everything Merican*. If you are not prepared for where we are now it's your own fault. Don't blame the present for the inherited mess. !!

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  • JimWJimW Posts: 561 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 27, 2021 5:04PM

    @tincup said:
    Those who happen to heat with propane... best keep the tank topped off as much as possible. Hearing much more about price/availability squeeze coming up.

    I pre-bought 800 gallons (@ $1.85) a few months ago, with the stipulation from the supplier that one had to sign up for their scheduled delivery program - so hopefully they'll be coming by on a regular basis.....

    I do have about 8 cords of firewood on hand, fireplace won't keep the whole house warm though :)

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  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    SS just got a 5.9% COLA raise. One of the leading economists in the country stated that it really should have been about 13%.

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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,129 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:

    @DNADave said:
    I don’t know, but shouldn’t someone we would describe as a leader define a few priorities and get food and fuel where it needs to be and let the frivolous sh!t from China sit on the boats?

    Perhaps the bigger problem is previous admins becoming so dependent on other countries labour and resources? Nobody was biatching when They were making Trillions $$$$ offshoring everything Merican*. If you are not prepared for where we are now it's your own fault. Don't blame the present for the inherited mess. !!

    For the last 40 years the amount of money spent on goods has decreased by about 5% per year vs that spent on services......until the last year, when 20% more was spent on goods. We took our free handouts and bought lots of junk from China, thus clogging up the ports. We value trinkets and knick knacks above ourselves. Such fools.

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @blitzdude said:

    @DNADave said:
    I don’t know, but shouldn’t someone we would describe as a leader define a few priorities and get food and fuel where it needs to be and let the frivolous sh!t from China sit on the boats?

    Perhaps the bigger problem is previous admins becoming so dependent on other countries labour and resources? Nobody was biatching when They were making Trillions $$$$ offshoring everything Merican*. If you are not prepared for where we are now it's your own fault. Don't blame the present for the inherited mess. !!

    For the last 40 years the amount of money spent on goods has decreased by about 5% per year vs that spent on services......until the last year, when 20% more was spent on goods. We took our free handouts and bought lots of junk from China, thus clogging up the ports. We value trinkets and knick knacks above ourselves. Such fools.

    You said it sir. Crazy world.

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  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @metalmeister said:
    Remember the $3,500,000,000,000 costs zero according to Joe.

    Not only will it cost zero, the $3,500,000,000,000 will be anti-inflationary :smiley: can't believe this isn't an onion article:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/29/treasury-secretary-yellen-says-spending-bills-will-be-anti-inflationary-lowering-important-costs.html

  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:
    .> @blitzdude said:

    Who would of thought....gutter coins would go down all while the price of everything else in the universe significantly increased? CRAZY WORLD! RGDS!!

    The irony is that even insurance has gone up. Lol

    P&C industry is just beginning to ramp up the price hikes after pocketing all the profits from minimal travel during the pandemic. Travelers just announced in their earnings call this week that they're submitting personal auto rate hikes in 40+ states. :#

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