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    grote15grote15 Posts: 29,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had a pending charge on my CC for the gold and silver sets which I ordered on 11/17 and for which I received an order confirmation email but when I go to my CC now, the pending charge is gone. I still see the order listed in my Mint account, though. Has anyone experienced this? I have not gotten any emails or notifications from the Mint since I got the email confirmation.



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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    RedStormRedStorm Posts: 221 ✭✭✭

    @grote15 said:
    I had a pending charge on my CC for the gold and silver sets which I ordered on 11/17 and for which I received an order confirmation email but when I go to my CC now, the pending charge is gone. I still see the order listed in my Mint account, though. Has anyone experienced this? I have not gotten any emails or notifications from the Mint since I got the email confirmation.

    I just checked, same for me, the CC charge has disappeared and I’ve received nothing mint-wise since the confirmation email. Strange...

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @trbyrne said:
    Here's what the UK sets look like. They came by DHL even before the US RP I ordered from the US mint the day it was available.

    are the sets individually numbered like the usa sets?

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    KliaoKliao Posts: 5,532 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As of Nov. 22
    Silver set 8,727 (473 left)
    Gold set 4,844 (6 left)
    Gold RP 4,991 (9 left)
    Silver RP 16,278 (3,722 left)

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kliao said:
    As of Nov. 22
    Silver set 8,727 (473 left)
    Gold set 4,844 (6 left)
    Gold RP 4,991 (9 left)
    Silver RP 16,278 (3,722 left)

    The silver RP just may sell out yet! I think that's a strong number for a medal.

    Nice to see the gold nearing sell-out.

    Interesting that the silver set has so many left as it NEVER comes available in the morning. Still hope @ECHOES

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know trashing the Mint is a popular hobby. I would say, however, that they pretty much got this 4 coin series right on all accounts.

    The coins are quite attractive with nice designs. And the mintages appear to be spot on so that there wasn't a huge excess demand but is small enough that the coins might hold some value.

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    ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Kliao said:
    As of Nov. 22
    Silver set 8,727 (473 left)
    Gold set 4,844 (6 left)
    Gold RP 4,991 (9 left)
    Silver RP 16,278 (3,722 left)

    The silver RP just may sell out yet! I think that's a strong number for a medal.

    Nice to see the gold nearing sell-out.

    Interesting that the silver set has so many left as it NEVER comes available in the morning. Still hope @ECHOES

    :#

    ~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
    POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
    Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
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    SweetpieSweetpie Posts: 466 ✭✭✭
    edited November 24, 2020 8:47AM

    Does the Royal Mint releases their own version of the Sales figure?

    I would be surprised to say if 500 gold sets, for example, didnt encountered any CC or delivery issues.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Sweetpie said:
    Does the Royal Mint releases their own version of the Sales figure?

    I would be surprised to say if 500 gold sets, for example, didnt encountered any CC or delivery issues.

    There web site only has final figures through 2017. LOL

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    RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,784 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm out of town. When I get home the 2 coin gold set awaits. The RP gold is on the way.

    I'm keeping the RP as I just love how it looks and I like the subject.

    I'm planning to send the gold set back. Is there any reason that any of u can see the gold set being worth much over melt in the future?

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 24, 2020 10:10AM

    I think the 2 coin's problem is the price, not the coins.

    If you are afraid of melt, I'd say all 3 gold are going to melt or none are going to melt.

    the gold kennedy was a disaster to flip, but you can't buy them for melt.

    these 2 coin sets are not flippable but that is all.

    you may try to BST them at cost. There may be someone here who missed out. (also, returns now count against you at the mint.)

    Oh, and if you have to open the shipping box to get at the 2 coin set, post the COA number you received.

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    grote15grote15 Posts: 29,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RedStorm said:

    @grote15 said:
    I had a pending charge on my CC for the gold and silver sets which I ordered on 11/17 and for which I received an order confirmation email but when I go to my CC now, the pending charge is gone. I still see the order listed in my Mint account, though. Has anyone experienced this? I have not gotten any emails or notifications from the Mint since I got the email confirmation.

    I just checked, same for me, the CC charge has disappeared and I’ve received nothing mint-wise since the confirmation email. Strange...

    I'm wondering if this happened because it has been 1 week since the charge was first pending and will be charged again once the sets are shipped.



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 24, 2020 11:10AM

    Mint ze-mails zemails

    @grote15 said:

    I'm wondering if this happened because it has been 1 week since the charge was first pending and will be charged again once the sets are shipped.

    i was wondering the same thing. you can call the CC company to see what their policy is.

    1st you get an email with this subject line: "We've received your U.S. Mint order"











    2nd, you get Another E-Mail with the subject: "Your U.S. Mint order has been confirmed!"


    after that it is a waiting game.

    if there is an order number, I suggest calling to ask if the order is in process.

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @grote15 said:

    @RedStorm said:

    @grote15 said:
    I had a pending charge on my CC for the gold and silver sets which I ordered on 11/17 and for which I received an order confirmation email but when I go to my CC now, the pending charge is gone. I still see the order listed in my Mint account, though. Has anyone experienced this? I have not gotten any emails or notifications from the Mint since I got the email confirmation.

    I just checked, same for me, the CC charge has disappeared and I’ve received nothing mint-wise since the confirmation email. Strange...

    I'm wondering if this happened because it has been 1 week since the charge was first pending and will be charged again once the sets are shipped.

    All merchants will place a tentative debit on the c c used to make sure the charge will be accepted. That temp. or tentative hold normally will drop off after 3 days. US Mint will not charge the cc until the item is mailed.

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OPA said:

    @grote15 said:

    @RedStorm said:

    @grote15 said:
    I had a pending charge on my CC for the gold and silver sets which I ordered on 11/17 and for which I received an order confirmation email but when I go to my CC now, the pending charge is gone. I still see the order listed in my Mint account, though. Has anyone experienced this? I have not gotten any emails or notifications from the Mint since I got the email confirmation.

    I just checked, same for me, the CC charge has disappeared and I’ve received nothing mint-wise since the confirmation email. Strange...

    I'm wondering if this happened because it has been 1 week since the charge was first pending and will be charged again once the sets are shipped.

    All merchants will place a tentative debit on the c c used to make sure the charge will be accepted. That temp. or tentative hold normally will drop off after 3 days. US Mint will not charge the cc until the item is mailed.

    This,
    Has happened always with my orders...

    ~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
    POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
    Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
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    ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Going out on a limb here,
    The Silver Reverse Proof I received has more of a Matte finish than a 'Proof'

    ~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
    POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
    Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 29,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, guys, for all the info!



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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    RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,784 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    I think the 2 coin's problem is the price, not the coins.

    If you are afraid of melt, I'd say all 3 gold are going to melt or none are going to melt.

    the gold kennedy was a disaster to flip, but you can't buy them for melt.

    these 2 coin sets are not flippable but that is all.

    you may try to BST them at cost. There may be someone here who missed out. (also, returns now count against you at the mint.)

    Oh, and if you have to open the shipping box to get at the 2 coin set, post the COA number you received.

    Thanks!

    What is the return penalty?

    Land of the Free because of the Brave!
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    HalfpenceHalfpence Posts: 442 ✭✭✭✭

    No penalty. Shipping is on you, and you have 7 days to return.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 24, 2020 12:44PM

    one order here and they won't get you, but if you are buying to sell then returning several cold items then that's a different story. I've never heard of a true penalty imposed yet.

    their policy on excessive returns:

    https://catalog.usmint.gov/faqs/shipping-and-returns/

    The United States Mint reserves the right to limit or refuse a return or to charge a fee for excessive returns. In addition, the Mint reserves the right to suspend accounts of customers with a pattern of excessive returns.

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    RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,784 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    one order here and they won't get you, but if you are buying to sell then returning several cold items then that's a different story. I've never heard of a true penalty imposed yet.

    their policy on excessive returns:

    https://catalog.usmint.gov/faqs/shipping-and-returns/

    The United States Mint reserves the right to limit or refuse a return or to charge a fee for excessive returns. In addition, the Mint reserves the right to suspend accounts of customers with a pattern of excessive returns.

    Thanks!!!

    I've bought many items w my last return being years ago.

    Land of the Free because of the Brave!
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    RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,784 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Halfpence said:
    No penalty. Shipping is on you, and you have 7 days to return.

    Thanks! I hear it takes weeks to months to get refunded.

    Land of the Free because of the Brave!
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    HalfpenceHalfpence Posts: 442 ✭✭✭✭

    I sent a return once, and it didn’t take long for the refund.

    Just don’t neglect to send it registered mail. It’s the only service that insures bullion.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    my latest return
    received by them - 10/23
    processed email received - 11/16

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ECHOES said:
    Going out on a limb here,
    The Silver Reverse Proof I received has more of a Matte finish than a 'Proof'

    Oh, no! Not another "light finish" like the Kennedy a few years back. Could be a rare error!

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Halfpence said:
    I sent a return once, and it didn’t take long for the refund.

    Just don’t neglect to send it registered mail. It’s the only service that insures bullion.

    I only sent in a return once. It took me 2-1/2 months to finally get paid. FWIW.

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    ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ECHOES said:
    Going out on a limb here,
    The Silver Reverse Proof I received has more of a Matte finish than a 'Proof'

    Oh, no! Not another "light finish" like the Kennedy a few years back. Could be a rare error!

    We shall see...
    The 'mirrored' surfaces, if I am saying this correctly, have a Matte finish.

    ~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
    POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
    Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    pics!

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    ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 24, 2020 1:59PM

    @MsMorrisine said:
    pics!

    Have only iphone 11, will try...

    ~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
    POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
    Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 24, 2020 4:23PM

    it's easy to see on the hat and the woman's forehead.

    perhaps you do have an error coin.

    time and other pictures of other coins will tell.

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Although it's on a b.o. status (date unk.) I decided to add the rev. silver proof to my collection. B)

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ECHOES said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    pics!

    Have only iphone 11, will try...

    Interesting. In the photo it is reminiscent of the "light finish" Kennedy.

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    ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope others who purchased this issue will chime in.

    ~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
    POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
    Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Funny eBay story:

    I've got a Gold RP coin listed for $825 on eBay. I get a message asking how I can afford to sell it so cheaply and asking if I'm losing money. I responded that, no, at that number I was making $40.

    I get a follow-up message saying that I'm the lowest price on eBay. He doesn't understand why I would list a coin "with only 7,500 made" so cheaply and wasn't I hurting the market for the coin.

    My response was: The market is bigger than me. If I'm too cheap, it'll sell quickly. If I'm too expensive, it won't sell at all. Ask yourself: If my price is too cheap, why hasn't the coin sold yet?

    LOL.

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    ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 24, 2020 4:49PM

    @ECHOES said:
    I hope others who purchased this issue will chime in.

    looked at mine the other day - here are the [bad] shots I took

    I didn't notice matte in the proof areas, but ill pop it open and look again

    edit to say, opened back up and maybe [?] I can see that the proof areas certainly aren't mirror-finished and appear to ha e a 'softer' proof finish, but in relatively new at this and not sure my bad photos are helping 😅

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    ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:

    @ECHOES said:
    I hope others who purchased this issue will chime in.

    looked at mine the other day - here are the [bad] shots I took

    I didn't notice matte in the proof areas, but ill pop it open and look again

    edit to say, opened back up and maybe [?] I can see that the proof areas certainly aren't mirror-finished and appear to ha e a 'softer' proof finish, but in relatively new at this and not sure my bad photos are helping 😅

    ~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
    POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
    Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 24, 2020 5:04PM

    the shiny proof areas should be like mirrors on modern issues. no satin or soft light reflection at all. the mirror glare should be unmistakable in hand.

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    ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:

    @ECHOES said:
    I hope others who purchased this issue will chime in.

    looked at mine the other day - here are the [bad] shots I took

    I would expect a proof to appear as @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ example at top,
    My example is not as 'bright' but matte in comparison.

    ~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
    POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
    Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
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    RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,784 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1906

    Sending back tomorrow.

    Heard w COVID refunds taking forever. Seems variable based on info above. Thanks for the info.


    Land of the Free because of the Brave!
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    RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,784 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Land of the Free because of the Brave!
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    spectacular.

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    ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ats a pretty coin

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    and that's the proper shine of a mirrored modern proof.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think we're about to see a LOT of returns on these. I was just looking at eBay and there are a bunch of listings "ended" by the seller.

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I think we're about to see a LOT of returns on these. I was just looking at eBay and there are a bunch of listings "ended" by the seller.

    The gold or silver one?

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 3,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 25, 2020 12:22PM

    As a long term collector, I am disappointed that so many of the modern gold and silver coins like these, get bought and almost immediately returned, if the buyers don't think they will make big money on eBay in a week.

    The 2020 AGE (non-privy) is another example. Hundreds listed on eBay by non collectors. It should never have sold out at the 7,000 mintage for around $600 above spot to begin with. I used to get 70's from dealers at a fair price for both of us, but now even dealers have to pay "bot" purchasers big bucks just to get enough to send in a batch.

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    HalfpenceHalfpence Posts: 442 ✭✭✭✭

    No doubt that returns are dominating this product. I was tempted to buy the gold two-coin set because I liked the Great Britain design, but the premium was just too exorbitant. I settled for the two coin silver set, which is still "processing".

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    GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 3,649 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My two coin silver is also still processing in Memphis, along with the RP silver. I think my gold set from the UK arrives today. Overpaid, but the UK needs the money, too. After all the Pilgrims and everything, they still didn't get to keep our country.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OPA said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I think we're about to see a LOT of returns on these. I was just looking at eBay and there are a bunch of listings "ended" by the seller.

    The gold or silver one?

    gold

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldminers said:
    As a long term collector, I am disappointed that so many of the modern gold and silver coins like these, get bought and almost immediately returned, if the buyers don't think they will make big money on eBay in a week.

    The 2020 AGE (non-privy) is another example. Hundreds listed on eBay by non collectors. It should never have sold out at the 7,000 mintage for around $600 above spot to begin with. I used to get 70's from dealers at a fair price for both of us, but now even dealers have to pay "bot" purchasers big bucks just to get enough to send in a batch.

    The MInt could stop it instantly if they changed their return policy to either: 1) Exchange for same product or 2) Return with 20% restocking fee.

    I flip. But if I buy something that languishes, I take my loss and move on. So far, I've never really lost any money because I'm pretty careful. But I've sold a few things at net cost.

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