@doubledragon said:
Can't believe the Rams allowed 55 points, and in their own house. A garbage effort on defense.
I hope that a trend is developing.
As for Tampa, how can you blow a home game to the Giants (after getting a big lead) one week and beat one the league’s “elite teams” on their home turf the next.
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@doubledragon said:
Can't believe the Rams allowed 55 points, and in their own house. A garbage effort on defense.
I hope that a trend is developing.
As for Tampa, how can you blow a home game to the Giants (after getting a big lead) one week and beat one the league’s “elite teams” on their home turf the next.
Yea but try betting a dime on an NFL game thinking the result will be "illogical" and you'll win the money, and see how "logical" the game suddenly becomes.
@stevek said:
Yea but try betting a dime on an NFL game thinking the result will be "illogical" and you'll win the money, and see how "logical" the game suddenly becomes.
Betting on NFL is probably the one of the few things I can say I would fear doing.
@galaxy27 said:
btw do you guys realize that barring an unforeseen injury, this is going to happen sooner rather than later
1 - Emmitt Smith
2 - Walter Payton
3 - Frank Gore
I'll go one further;
Barring injury.
1-Emmitt Smith
2-Frank Gore
3-Walter Payton
Gore is averaging 4.5 yards per carry, he could gain over 1,000 yards this year and if he can play next year at or near the same level????????????????????
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@galaxy27 said:
btw do you guys realize that barring an unforeseen injury, this is going to happen sooner rather than later
1 - Emmitt Smith
2 - Walter Payton
3 - Frank Gore
I'll go one further;
Barring injury.
1-Emmitt Smith
2-Frank Gore
3-Walter Payton
Gore is averaging 4.5 yards per carry, he could gain over 1,000 yards this year and if he can play next year at or near the same level????????????????????
Normally I’d say it’s foolish for a guy to hang around and pad his numbers but he is a legit good RB, he is playing well so good for him.
Frank Gore has done very well for himself, after getting beat in the 2000 presidential election, starting a NFL football career, and accumulating all those rushing yards.
@stevek said:
Frank Gore has done very well for himself, after getting beat in the 2000 presidential election, starting a NFL football career, and accumulating all those rushing yards.
And don't forget the whole Global Warming thing he invented!
I have seen a few comments from guys saying they aren't able to watch the games they want to because of where they live. I am in Dallas/Fort Worth and hated missing the Patriots games. So if anyone doesn't already know, there is an easy way to watch the games.
You don't need a Reddit account to do this.
Go to https://www.reddit.com/r/nflstreams/ before the game begins (I am not sure what time they put the links there. Maybe one hour before). Find the game you want and click on the comments section. Within the comments there will be multiple available streams of the game. They should say which ones are mobile friendly, or won't work with ad block, etc.
@bronco2078 said:
keenum could do what cousins is doing without any trouble
Totally agree. The Cousins signing for what they were looking for is a head scratcher
You can bet there was a TON of debate over this here in Minnesota.
I think the Vikings ownership got tired of the revolving door at QB;
2012 Christian Ponder
2013 Matt Cassel
2014 Ponder, Cassel and Bridgewater
2015 Bridgewater
2016 Sam Bradford
2017 Case Keenum
Ponder was a first round pick (12th overall)
Cassel was cut by Chiefs and signed by Vikes
Bridgewater was a first rounder (was considered at one time to be the #1 overall player) 32nd overall.
Bradford from the Eagles for a first round pick
Keenum was signed as a free agent (I think)
Viking had used three first round picks and got virtually nothing in return. Drafing at or near to the end of the first round is not usually the way to get a top rated QB.
Obviously Keenum was going to get a big raise and deservedly so, but the brain wizards here didn't think he was worth it.
Vikings had no one on the team to play QB as they had been carrying two injured guys and Keenum, who was supposed to back up either Bradford or Bridgewater.
Going after the best option (Cousins) was going to be expensive.
As I have said, I would have kept Keenum and spent money on free agents that would have "fixed" the offensive line and upgraded other needs, but you really can't blame management for going after a guy who looked like he could succeed in the right circumstances. You can't keep throwing away 1st round picks on guys who can't play or stay on the field.
Getting rid of Bridgewater could end up being the biggest mistake of them all.
Agreed that NFL players make a lot of money, nothing new here. Maybe if the idiotic fans weren't willing to pay $43.00 for a hot dog and a beer the players would only make 8 million a year. Really, who's the dummy?
Diggs and Thielen are "worth" what they are getting, if any person is worth 16 million dollars a year.
The offensive line, while improving (three high draft picks and an expensive free agent pick up) isn't very good.
Delvin Cook has emerged as a very productive back, he was leading the league in rushing and even after getting crushed by the Bears, he is one yard behind the leader.
The rushing offense is ranked #2. I don't see any teams at or near the top in both categories. Granted, next to last in passing is not good enough.
You are an idiot if you think your team automatically gains a certain amount of yards or scores a certain amount of points in direct relation to three guys salaries. The defensive guys get paid a lot as well, we couldn't stop the Bears without their starting QB.
The Cousins decision is not working out so far, and we are almost at the mid point of his contract.
My guy Case Keenum has a much higher QB rating this year on a team that has no victories, so the big argument that was used to promote Cousins, that he would be so much better on a good team, has been obliterated. But Cases' team has no victories, imagine what the whiners here in Minnesota would be saying if we were 0-4 with Keenum.
I will say in Kirk's defense, that it was/is pretty obvious he needs a "clean pocket" to be effective, he hasn't gotten that very often. He seems "gun shy" and he fumbles a lot.
This is not however, all because of Cousins, there was a missed field goal and extra point (stupid taking his helmet off penalty by Diggs) in the Green Bay game that cost 4 points. The defense gave up touchdowns on the first three possessions in that game, and Cousins was sacked 7 times. He did throw a horrible interception on a first down play while in GB territory that was inexcusable.
There's no shame in losing to the Bears in Chicago. Vikings lose their to much worse teams than they have now. Cousins did miss a pretty much wide open Thielen on what looked like a sure TD.
Vikings better be looking ahead for a QB after next year, even if Kirk turns things around, they will need somebody new, in my opinion.
It's still early. Three or four good games and the "fans" will be all warm and fuzzy.
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@JoeBanzai said:
No offense, but I'd be afraid to make a trade with you guys!
Hahaha tell ya this much I would not do a trade if I was a GM AND if I was a Player I would refuse to play for the Pats. Too much job security stress on a daily basis under big Bill
@JoeBanzai said:
No offense, but I'd be afraid to make a trade with you guys!
Hahaha tell ya this much I would not do a trade if I was a GM AND if I was a Player I would refuse to play for the Pats. Too much job security stress on a daily basis under big Bill
Yea, but look at all the rings you would be missing out on.
@stevek said:
Yea but try betting a dime on an NFL game thinking the result will be "illogical" and you'll win the money, and see how "logical" the game suddenly becomes.
Totally agree. Thereby is the logic, there is none, hence my view.
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@stevek said:
Yea but try betting a dime on an NFL game thinking the result will be "illogical" and you'll win the money, and see how "logical" the game suddenly becomes.
Totally agree. Thereby is the logic, there is none, hence my view.
I read one time years ago, and I would have to believe that it's basically still true, that against the spread in the NFL, the favorite won 49.9 percent of the time, and the dog won 50.1 percent of the time.
So if anyone believes they can make money against a bookie with a payoff of 100% if you win, but a payment of 110% when you lose, well it simply isn't going to happen.
You can beat a game, but you can't beat the bookies.
I do leave the door open to the possibility of making money against the bookies, never with handicapping the games, but with arbitrage positions depending on how the states legalize sports betting and the odds are presented.
However there will be many thousands of others attempting to do that as well, and it will be very difficult to do considering you'd have to rapidly find a position that provides a profit considering the juice.
This is how James Holzhauer, the Jeopardy guy, claimed was the way he was making money betting on sports. I'm not sure that I believe him for various reasons, but I'm not ruling it out either.
The basic problem, even with a computer, is you could quickly play one game on one website, with the intention of playing the same game with differing odds on another website. But after placing the one bet, in a millisecond the odds change on the other website, so the door closes to successfully have an arbitrage position. So then you're stuck with a bet having the 110% thing in play.
A lot of programming work and time involved to even if you're betting big, a best case scenario may be very tiny profits. Working at McDonald's might pay more.
@stevek said:
Yea but try betting a dime on an NFL game thinking the result will be "illogical" and you'll win the money, and see how "logical" the game suddenly becomes.
Totally agree. Thereby is the logic, there is none, hence my view.
I read one time years ago, and I would have to believe that it's basically still true, that against the spread in the NFL, the favorite won 49.9 percent of the time, and the dog won 50.1 percent of the time.
So if anyone believes they can make money against a bookie with a payoff of 100% if you win, but a payment of 110% when you lose, well it simply isn't going to happen.
You can beat a game, but you can't beat the bookies.
I do leave the door open to the possibility of making money against the bookies, never with handicapping the games, but with arbitrage positions depending on how the states legalize sports betting and the odds are presented.
However there will be many thousands of others attempting to do that as well, and it will be very difficult to do considering you'd have to rapidly find a position that provides a profit considering the juice.
This is how James Holzhauer, the Jeopardy guy, claimed was the way he was making money betting on sports. I'm not sure that I believe him for various reasons, but I'm not ruling it out either.
The basic problem, even with a computer, is you could quickly play one game on one website, with the intention of playing the same game with differing odds on another website. But after placing the one bet, in a millisecond the odds change on the other website, so the door closes to successfully have an arbitrage position. So then you're stuck with a bet having the 110% thing in play.
A lot of programming work and time involved to even if you're betting big, a best case scenario may be very tiny profits. Working at McDonald's might pay more.
Betting is where a fool and his money are soon separated!
I did win $100 back in the 90's. At the beginning of the year I took Dallas & San Fran and gave the guy all the other teams to win the Super Bowl. That was when they were the best 2 teams in the NFL. The guy took it. Dallas played the Steelers and won so I won! That was fun!
Back in the 90’s I remember when San Fran came to town to play the hapless Patriots, Scott Zolak was starting and the 9’ers were like 14 1/2 favorites everyone thought it was going to be like a 35-0 Easy victory and loaded up on San Fran. Ofcourse the Pats won. NFL betting is a losing proposition
@stevek said:
Yea but try betting a dime on an NFL game thinking the result will be "illogical" and you'll win the money, and see how "logical" the game suddenly becomes.
Totally agree. Thereby is the logic, there is none, hence my view.
I read one time years ago, and I would have to believe that it's basically still true, that against the spread in the NFL, the favorite won 49.9 percent of the time, and the dog won 50.1 percent of the time.
So if anyone believes they can make money against a bookie with a payoff of 100% if you win, but a payment of 110% when you lose, well it simply isn't going to happen.
You can beat a game, but you can't beat the bookies.
I do leave the door open to the possibility of making money against the bookies, never with handicapping the games, but with arbitrage positions depending on how the states legalize sports betting and the odds are presented.
However there will be many thousands of others attempting to do that as well, and it will be very difficult to do considering you'd have to rapidly find a position that provides a profit considering the juice.
This is how James Holzhauer, the Jeopardy guy, claimed was the way he was making money betting on sports. I'm not sure that I believe him for various reasons, but I'm not ruling it out either.
The basic problem, even with a computer, is you could quickly play one game on one website, with the intention of playing the same game with differing odds on another website. But after placing the one bet, in a millisecond the odds change on the other website, so the door closes to successfully have an arbitrage position. So then you're stuck with a bet having the 110% thing in play.
A lot of programming work and time involved to even if you're betting big, a best case scenario may be very tiny profits. Working at McDonald's might pay more.
Betting is where a fool and his money are soon separated!
I did win $100 back in the 90's. At the beginning of the year I took Dallas & San Fran and gave the guy all the other teams to win the Super Bowl. That was when they were the best 2 teams in the NFL. The guy took it. Dallas played the Steelers and won so I won! That was fun!
You got lucky on that one. The guy likely had the better odds. Especially because both teams are in the NFC, so of course it would have been impossible for both teams to be in the Super Bowl.
Although considering how good those two teams were, the guy might not have had much better odds.
I would think that a better bet such as that using two teams would have been having one team from each conference. If both teams got to the Super Bowl, of course you would automatically win the bet.
In any event, I'm glad you won the $100. But I'd say off the cuff that the odds on your money should have been around 2-1.
@stevek said:
Yea but try betting a dime on an NFL game thinking the result will be "illogical" and you'll win the money, and see how "logical" the game suddenly becomes.
Totally agree. Thereby is the logic, there is none, hence my view.
I read one time years ago, and I would have to believe that it's basically still true, that against the spread in the NFL, the favorite won 49.9 percent of the time, and the dog won 50.1 percent of the time.
So if anyone believes they can make money against a bookie with a payoff of 100% if you win, but a payment of 110% when you lose, well it simply isn't going to happen.
You can beat a game, but you can't beat the bookies.
I do leave the door open to the possibility of making money against the bookies, never with handicapping the games, but with arbitrage positions depending on how the states legalize sports betting and the odds are presented.
However there will be many thousands of others attempting to do that as well, and it will be very difficult to do considering you'd have to rapidly find a position that provides a profit considering the juice.
This is how James Holzhauer, the Jeopardy guy, claimed was the way he was making money betting on sports. I'm not sure that I believe him for various reasons, but I'm not ruling it out either.
The basic problem, even with a computer, is you could quickly play one game on one website, with the intention of playing the same game with differing odds on another website. But after placing the one bet, in a millisecond the odds change on the other website, so the door closes to successfully have an arbitrage position. So then you're stuck with a bet having the 110% thing in play.
A lot of programming work and time involved to even if you're betting big, a best case scenario may be very tiny profits. Working at McDonald's might pay more.
Betting is where a fool and his money are soon separated!
I did win $100 back in the 90's. At the beginning of the year I took Dallas & San Fran and gave the guy all the other teams to win the Super Bowl. That was when they were the best 2 teams in the NFL. The guy took it. Dallas played the Steelers and won so I won! That was fun!
You got lucky on that one. The guy likely had the better odds. Especially because both teams are in the NFC, so of course it would have been impossible for both teams to be in the Super Bowl.
Although considering how good those two teams were, the guy might not have had much better odds.
I would think that a better bet such as that using two teams would have been having one team from each conference. If both teams got to the Super Bowl, of course you would automatically win the bet.
In any event, I'm glad you won the $100. But I'd say off the cuff that the odds on your money should have been around 2-1.
It was more of a gloat thing. The Cowboys were so good then (best team ever) that the only team I had any fear of was the 49'ers. I was always bragging that the NFC Championship game was really the Super Bowl. He was a AFC guy (especially Steelers) so he said OK I'll give you Dallas and San Fran and take the rest.........I said done! Boy was he PI$$ED, which only made it sweeter!
@perkdog said:
Back in the 90’s I remember when San Fran came to town to play the hapless Patriots, Scott Zolak was starting and the 9’ers were like 14 1/2 favorites everyone thought it was going to be like a 35-0 Easy victory and loaded up on San Fran. Ofcourse the Pats won. NFL betting is a losing proposition
<<< NFL betting is a losing proposition >>>
A long time ago, well over ten years ago, a thread was done here on that topic. A number of members kept bragging about how great they were at sports handicapping, and i and maybe a few others challenged them to prove it in a thread.
So a thread was created when the NFL regular season began, and the braggers would make their selections each week. Keeping track of the profits and losses, just as if the betting was being done with a bookie using the point spread, including the juice, everything.
I think it was by around the ninth or tenth week, all the braggers were so far in the hole, they basically quit doing it, I presume to save themselves further embarrassment.
There was one member, if I'm remembering right his CU name was iamthegreatcornholio or something like that, his real name was Brian, real nice guy. Brian never really bragged about being a great sports handicapper, he just joined in on the fun. Ironically, if I'm remembering right, Brian was actually the only one showing a slight profit by the ninth or tenth week. But he stopped posting in that thread as well, i guess because the others stopped posting. And so the thread just fizzled out.
Picking the winner/loser of a game is not that hard, but covering the spread is where you lose your A$$. Back when I was still working we had a thing in our office where you put in $5 and got a sheet with all the games listed. There were usually 30 or so played so the pot was usually around $150. On the Sunday games you just circled the winner. Then if needed the Monday game was a tie breaker if needed, which was needed quite often. On the Monday game you not only picked the winner, but you also stated the score.....the closest one was the winner. I usually missed 3 or 4 sometimes less sometimes more and usually won the pot several times a year. But picking the winner is a lot easier than covering spreads. Otherwise I could put 100 bucks on every game and if I missed 4 or 5 I would be in the money.
The best ever football hit I ever enjoyed was a $300 free play payout at a casino. Free entry. You had to pick the most winners straight up from the pool of entries. Won it one week, by luck. And it was pure luck. I called all the NFL coaches that week for some inside info. My calls were never returned.
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Buffalo squeaked another one out today. They are pretty banged up. Thankfully we have a bye next week to get everyone healthy and Miami comes to town the following week. I dare say my 5-1 prediction to start this thread is a possibility. Now hoping my second half of that prediction becomes reality.
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@DrBuster said:
The falcons....we just suck, across the board....suckage...sigh
And I still stand by this statement....
I have no words. All the injuries last year I understand. But no excuses this year. I had them for futures at over 8.5 wins. I thought they would compete for a division title. I have to add this tidbit. I had a futures bet on them winning the SB BEFORE the 2016-17 season. I was already buying a Namath rookie PSA 8 with my winnings up 28-3. So I haven’t learned my lesson I guess.
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@bronco2078 said:
Look at Jimmy G ! Both Patriots cast off back up QB's are playing better than Brady this season.
Rumor has it another QB goes down Ryan Mallettehead getting a phone call too.
I wouldn’t say they playing better than Brady? The Pats are 5-0, sure the D is playing at a high level but Brady is getting it done nicely aside from the Bills game.
@bronco2078 said:
Look at Jimmy G ! Both Patriots cast off back up QB's are playing better than Brady this season.
Rumor has it another QB goes down Ryan Mallettehead getting a phone call too.
I wouldn’t say they playing better than Brady? The Pats are 5-0, sure the D is playing at a high level but Brady is getting it done nicely aside from the Bills game.
No QB has looked good against Buffalo. Time for their defense to get the credit they deserve. Again I state the Bills were the #2 defense last year. Now if they can only score 21 points a game. 😀
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Can't believe the Rams allowed 55 points, and in their own house. A garbage effort on defense.
There has not been many more accurate statements than this on this board ever.
Jags legend and cool daddy. Selling like hotcakes.
I hope that a trend is developing.
As for Tampa, how can you blow a home game to the Giants (after getting a big lead) one week and beat one the league’s “elite teams” on their home turf the next.
Because 99% of the time the NFL makes ZERO sense.
yesterday i watched three games from beginning to end -- NE-Buffalo, Chicago-Minnesota, New Orleans-Dallas -- and it was quite refreshing actually
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Yea but try betting a dime on an NFL game thinking the result will be "illogical" and you'll win the money, and see how "logical" the game suddenly becomes.
Betting on NFL is probably the one of the few things I can say I would fear doing.
btw do you guys realize that barring an unforeseen injury, this is going to happen sooner rather than later
1 - Emmitt Smith
2 - Walter Payton
3 - Frank Gore
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
I'll go one further;
Barring injury.
1-Emmitt Smith
2-Frank Gore
3-Walter Payton
Gore is averaging 4.5 yards per carry, he could gain over 1,000 yards this year and if he can play next year at or near the same level????????????????????
Normally I’d say it’s foolish for a guy to hang around and pad his numbers but he is a legit good RB, he is playing well so good for him.
Frank Gore has done very well for himself, after getting beat in the 2000 presidential election, starting a NFL football career, and accumulating all those rushing yards.
And don't forget the whole Global Warming thing he invented!
Is there a 72 hour cancellation right on Goff's contract?
I'll give you Prescott and a case of Falstaff Beer for him........wait a minute.....maybe not. Neither one is worth a case of Beer!
okay. you drive a hard bargain. a quart of Thunderbird. he's yours.
Well, I've never had a favorite quote before.
But after Andy Reid's talk to his team after yesterday's win at Detroit, I do now.
"Hey, not all of Mozart's paintings were perfect."
Didn't hear about it until tonight's Cincy-Pitt pregame show.
Nice to see a steelers win tonight , the team needs a boost. I've never met a bengals fan so no harm done as far as that goes
I have seen a few comments from guys saying they aren't able to watch the games they want to because of where they live. I am in Dallas/Fort Worth and hated missing the Patriots games. So if anyone doesn't already know, there is an easy way to watch the games.
You don't need a Reddit account to do this.
Go to https://www.reddit.com/r/nflstreams/ before the game begins (I am not sure what time they put the links there. Maybe one hour before). Find the game you want and click on the comments section. Within the comments there will be multiple available streams of the game. They should say which ones are mobile friendly, or won't work with ad block, etc.
I have done this on PC, laptop, and android.
If anyone needs help, PM me.
Hope this helps!
Damn check this out...
that is government level spending right there
no not government , Red Sox which of the three is Panda ?
Talk about misappropriation of funds 😯
I think Diggs on the right team would be great.
Yea now that AB is gone I’d LOVE for him to be a a Patriot! 👍
Agreed that NFL players make a lot of money, nothing new here. Maybe if the idiotic fans weren't willing to pay $43.00 for a hot dog and a beer the players would only make 8 million a year. Really, who's the dummy?
Diggs and Thielen are "worth" what they are getting, if any person is worth 16 million dollars a year.
The offensive line, while improving (three high draft picks and an expensive free agent pick up) isn't very good.
Delvin Cook has emerged as a very productive back, he was leading the league in rushing and even after getting crushed by the Bears, he is one yard behind the leader.
The rushing offense is ranked #2. I don't see any teams at or near the top in both categories. Granted, next to last in passing is not good enough.
You are an idiot if you think your team automatically gains a certain amount of yards or scores a certain amount of points in direct relation to three guys salaries. The defensive guys get paid a lot as well, we couldn't stop the Bears without their starting QB.
The Cousins decision is not working out so far, and we are almost at the mid point of his contract.
My guy Case Keenum has a much higher QB rating this year on a team that has no victories, so the big argument that was used to promote Cousins, that he would be so much better on a good team, has been obliterated. But Cases' team has no victories, imagine what the whiners here in Minnesota would be saying if we were 0-4 with Keenum.
I will say in Kirk's defense, that it was/is pretty obvious he needs a "clean pocket" to be effective, he hasn't gotten that very often. He seems "gun shy" and he fumbles a lot.
This is not however, all because of Cousins, there was a missed field goal and extra point (stupid taking his helmet off penalty by Diggs) in the Green Bay game that cost 4 points. The defense gave up touchdowns on the first three possessions in that game, and Cousins was sacked 7 times. He did throw a horrible interception on a first down play while in GB territory that was inexcusable.
There's no shame in losing to the Bears in Chicago. Vikings lose their to much worse teams than they have now. Cousins did miss a pretty much wide open Thielen on what looked like a sure TD.
Vikings better be looking ahead for a QB after next year, even if Kirk turns things around, they will need somebody new, in my opinion.
It's still early. Three or four good games and the "fans" will be all warm and fuzzy.
Has a TON of talent! Send us a couple of GOOD offensive lineman and we'll do it!
We're a little light on O-line ourselves, so no can do.
No offense, but I'd be afraid to make a trade with you guys!
Hahaha tell ya this much I would not do a trade if I was a GM AND if I was a Player I would refuse to play for the Pats. Too much job security stress on a daily basis under big Bill
Yea, but look at all the rings you would be missing out on.
Totally agree. Thereby is the logic, there is none, hence my view.
Just think what you could do with that "Book" from the movie "Back to the Future"!
I read one time years ago, and I would have to believe that it's basically still true, that against the spread in the NFL, the favorite won 49.9 percent of the time, and the dog won 50.1 percent of the time.
So if anyone believes they can make money against a bookie with a payoff of 100% if you win, but a payment of 110% when you lose, well it simply isn't going to happen.
You can beat a game, but you can't beat the bookies.
I do leave the door open to the possibility of making money against the bookies, never with handicapping the games, but with arbitrage positions depending on how the states legalize sports betting and the odds are presented.
However there will be many thousands of others attempting to do that as well, and it will be very difficult to do considering you'd have to rapidly find a position that provides a profit considering the juice.
This is how James Holzhauer, the Jeopardy guy, claimed was the way he was making money betting on sports. I'm not sure that I believe him for various reasons, but I'm not ruling it out either.
The basic problem, even with a computer, is you could quickly play one game on one website, with the intention of playing the same game with differing odds on another website. But after placing the one bet, in a millisecond the odds change on the other website, so the door closes to successfully have an arbitrage position. So then you're stuck with a bet having the 110% thing in play.
A lot of programming work and time involved to even if you're betting big, a best case scenario may be very tiny profits. Working at McDonald's might pay more.
Betting is where a fool and his money are soon separated!
I did win $100 back in the 90's. At the beginning of the year I took Dallas & San Fran and gave the guy all the other teams to win the Super Bowl. That was when they were the best 2 teams in the NFL. The guy took it. Dallas played the Steelers and won so I won! That was fun!
Back in the 90’s I remember when San Fran came to town to play the hapless Patriots, Scott Zolak was starting and the 9’ers were like 14 1/2 favorites everyone thought it was going to be like a 35-0 Easy victory and loaded up on San Fran. Ofcourse the Pats won. NFL betting is a losing proposition
You got lucky on that one. The guy likely had the better odds. Especially because both teams are in the NFC, so of course it would have been impossible for both teams to be in the Super Bowl.
Although considering how good those two teams were, the guy might not have had much better odds.
I would think that a better bet such as that using two teams would have been having one team from each conference. If both teams got to the Super Bowl, of course you would automatically win the bet.
In any event, I'm glad you won the $100. But I'd say off the cuff that the odds on your money should have been around 2-1.
It was more of a gloat thing. The Cowboys were so good then (best team ever) that the only team I had any fear of was the 49'ers. I was always bragging that the NFC Championship game was really the Super Bowl. He was a AFC guy (especially Steelers) so he said OK I'll give you Dallas and San Fran and take the rest.........I said done! Boy was he PI$$ED, which only made it sweeter!
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A long time ago, well over ten years ago, a thread was done here on that topic. A number of members kept bragging about how great they were at sports handicapping, and i and maybe a few others challenged them to prove it in a thread.
So a thread was created when the NFL regular season began, and the braggers would make their selections each week. Keeping track of the profits and losses, just as if the betting was being done with a bookie using the point spread, including the juice, everything.
I think it was by around the ninth or tenth week, all the braggers were so far in the hole, they basically quit doing it, I presume to save themselves further embarrassment.
There was one member, if I'm remembering right his CU name was iamthegreatcornholio or something like that, his real name was Brian, real nice guy. Brian never really bragged about being a great sports handicapper, he just joined in on the fun. Ironically, if I'm remembering right, Brian was actually the only one showing a slight profit by the ninth or tenth week. But he stopped posting in that thread as well, i guess because the others stopped posting. And so the thread just fizzled out.
Picking the winner/loser of a game is not that hard, but covering the spread is where you lose your A$$. Back when I was still working we had a thing in our office where you put in $5 and got a sheet with all the games listed. There were usually 30 or so played so the pot was usually around $150. On the Sunday games you just circled the winner. Then if needed the Monday game was a tie breaker if needed, which was needed quite often. On the Monday game you not only picked the winner, but you also stated the score.....the closest one was the winner. I usually missed 3 or 4 sometimes less sometimes more and usually won the pot several times a year. But picking the winner is a lot easier than covering spreads. Otherwise I could put 100 bucks on every game and if I missed 4 or 5 I would be in the money.
The best ever football hit I ever enjoyed was a $300 free play payout at a casino. Free entry. You had to pick the most winners straight up from the pool of entries. Won it one week, by luck. And it was pure luck. I called all the NFL coaches that week for some inside info. My calls were never returned.
Buffalo squeaked another one out today. They are pretty banged up. Thankfully we have a bye next week to get everyone healthy and Miami comes to town the following week. I dare say my 5-1 prediction to start this thread is a possibility. Now hoping my second half of that prediction becomes reality.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
And I still stand by this statement....
I have no words. All the injuries last year I understand. But no excuses this year. I had them for futures at over 8.5 wins. I thought they would compete for a division title. I have to add this tidbit. I had a futures bet on them winning the SB BEFORE the 2016-17 season. I was already buying a Namath rookie PSA 8 with my winnings up 28-3. So I haven’t learned my lesson I guess.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
this is the first browns or 9'ers game I've seen this season. Remind why the browns were so hyped ? They are getting shredded
As an outsider looking in, I see the Browns in need of an experienced coach with skins on the wall.
send kittens for a time out in his litterbox ,
Look at Jimmy G ! Both Patriots cast off back up QB's are playing better than Brady this season.
Rumor has it another QB goes down Ryan Mallettehead getting a phone call too.
No way the Browns were living up to all the preseason hype, they were considered almost a lock for the division. Then the regular season began lol
I wouldn’t say they playing better than Brady? The Pats are 5-0, sure the D is playing at a high level but Brady is getting it done nicely aside from the Bills game.
No QB has looked good against Buffalo. Time for their defense to get the credit they deserve. Again I state the Bills were the #2 defense last year. Now if they can only score 21 points a game. 😀
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.