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3rd 100,000 mintage coin in the 25th Anniversary set
YoYoSpin
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Have any of you taken a careful look at the so-called "Bullion" no mint mark coin contained in the 25th Anniversary ASE set? These are the same coins that are currently being broken out of the sets and sold on eBay for near bullion prices. Have a look at the photos below - the coin on the left is from the 25th Anniversary set (burnished) and the one on the right is from a common 2011 bullion roll. Looks to me like we have a third 100,000 mintage coin in the set. What do you think?
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Ed Davidson
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I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
some looked like the 25th set.
could this be a difference between the SF vs W minting?
<< <i>Someone notify Don Willis!!! >>
And hurry! My coins should be in there hands as we speak!!!!
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Ed Davidson
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Different looking because of sitting on the shelf too long at the US MINT
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<< <i>Wouldn't the TPGs have noticed a different finish on the 25th Anniversary sets they've slabbed already and noted it as such? >>
Not necessarily, I think the 08/07's were being slabbed for quite some time and nobody, except our beloved John Nanney noticed the reverse was different...
<< <i>We already know the SF mint, minted unmarked "s" mint eagles. How do the finishes on those compare the bullion coin from the set? >>
The coin in the photos (above and on the right) are from a common roll of un-marked "S" mint ASE's I happened to have on hand.
Ed Davidson
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<< <i>We already know the SF mint, minted unmarked "s" mint eagles. How do the finishes on those compare the bullion coin from the set? >>
The coin in the photos (above and on the right) are from a common roll of un-marked "S" mint ASE's I happened to have on hand. >>
edited: appears the bullion coin was only minted in SF
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I fully expect the "bullion" versions to be completely dfifferent than a standard bullion coin.
The name is LEE!
I guess it may be smart to hold off, until some official
statement is released? My bullion examples in the set are
not your typical tubed Eagles, very clean and hit free.
<< <i>The 118th thread with 25th in the title.
I guess it may be smart to hold off, until some official
statement is released? My bullion examples in the set are
not your typical tubed Eagles, very clean and hit free. >>
IMO, it doesn;t really matter as it will not affect the value of the set.
If folks are selling off the individual coins or more accurately the "common coins" from the set, they are making a huge mistake as I seriously doubt that the 2011-S and the REV Proof will sustain their current values out of the sets.
But then, the more sets they bust up, the better it is for those that keep the sets intact.
The name is LEE!
Today I saw a few RP's end at $375-400, and the "S" example right around $300.
<< <i><<If folks are selling off the individual coins or more accurately the "common coins" from the set, they are making a huge mistake as I seriously doubt that the 2011-S and the REV Proof will sustain their current values out of the sets.>>
Today I saw a few RP's end at $375-400, and the "S" example right around $300. >>
Today's prices are not "sustained" prices. Today's prices are "wave" prices.
And yes, that packaging does have some value.
The name is LEE!
If the Mint intended there to be a consistant finish on this coin that is distinguishable from the regular bullion coin, then every coin that is sold off from a broken set is one less coin in the total population of this issue - making it scarcer than the other 100,000 mintage coins.
It could also be that the Mint took no pains to keep a consistant finish on this coin, and as we saw in some of the burnished ATBs, they might tend to start looking more like regular production coins as the dies got more usage.
Nice catch.
I knew it would happen.
I'm hoping that they're all distinctly burnished!
Ed Davidson
WHA HA HA HA HA...I'm getting very excited now!
In yesterday's CW, a Mint official, Tom Jurkowsky, reconfirmed that the bullion
coin in the set was minted exclusively at San Francisco. He said the decision to
do so was made after the COA's were printed. I don't know what more PCGS
needs to properly label this coin.
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<< <i>Yoyo, any chance you can pop that casing apart and get photos without plastic? >>
All he needs to do is place the capsule back in the blue box and shake vigorously.........the coin should pop out nicely!
92vette - I agree with you. I think most bullion ASE's of the recent past have a burnished look to them. The unusual coin in the OP's photos is the non burnish finish bullion coin (perhaps from a later strike) - not the coin from the 25th Anniversary set. - IMO.
They have that flat silvery burnished look, JMHO.
Which is correct?
I submit, from the picture posted, the bullion set coin has been struck twice.
They also may have changed the dies more frequently for this special run.
HH
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<< <i>The 118th thread with 25th in the title.
I guess it may be smart to hold off, until some official
statement is released? My bullion examples in the set are
not your typical tubed Eagles, very clean and hit free. >>
Well one of those threads was my "25th post giveaway" back in 3/2008
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<< <i>The burnished UNCs are double struck like a proof giving them a noticeable difference in the fine details.
I submit, from the picture posted, the bullion set coin has been struck twice.
They also may have changed the dies more frequently for this special run.
HH >>
I wonder if someone will find a coin with rotation between the strikes?
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<< <i>In yesterday's CW, a Mint official, Tom Jurkowsky, reconfirmed that the bullion
coin in the set was minted exclusively at San Francisco. He said the decision to
do so was made after the COA's were printed. I don't know what more PCGS
needs to properly label this coin. >>
Mr Willis addressed this with a call to the US Mint, they said some were struck at San Fran and the others at West point. That is why they took the S off the grading labels for the non S ASE.
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<< <i>In yesterday's CW, a Mint official, Tom Jurkowsky, reconfirmed that the bullion
coin in the set was minted exclusively at San Francisco. He said the decision to
do so was made after the COA's were printed. I don't know what more PCGS
needs to properly label this coin. >>
Mr Willis addressed this with a call to the US Mint, they said some were struck at San Fran and the others at West point. That is why they took the S off the grading labels for the non S ASE. >>
Seems like depending on who you talk to at the Mint you get a different set of facts. Mr. Jurkowsky, who apparently just reconfirmed that all were exclusively from San Francisco, may have better information than the person(s) PCGS discussed the matter with?
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now we will see what happens with the bullion coin but its possible that the set contains 2 SF coins from the very first year of production.
<< <i>In yesterday's CW, a Mint official, Tom Jurkowsky, reconfirmed that the bullion
coin in the set was minted exclusively at San Francisco. He said the decision to
do so was made after the COA's were printed. I don't know what more PCGS
needs to properly label this coin. >>
I don't know whether to laugh or cry?
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>In yesterday's CW, a Mint official, Tom Jurkowsky, reconfirmed that the bullion
coin in the set was minted exclusively at San Francisco. He said the decision to
do so was made after the COA's were printed. I don't know what more PCGS
needs to properly label this coin. >>
Mr Willis addressed this with a call to the US Mint, they said some were struck at San Fran and the others at West point. That is why they took the S off the grading labels for the non S ASE. >>
Seems like depending on who you talk to at the Mint you get a different set of facts. Mr. Jurkowsky, who apparently just reconfirmed that all were exclusively from San Francisco, may have better information than the person(s) PCGS discussed the matter with? >>
Tom Jurkowsky is the official US Mint Spokesperson. His statement was made on 11/11 while PCGS made their decision change on 11/10. I would take Tom's word as gospel since it's his name at stake.
The name is LEE!
a burnished coin with an s labeled s, and a burnished coin without an s labeled s
if the "bullion" and "uncirculated" are both burnished...what's the difference in the coins?