The 2011 Boston Red Sox

MCMLVTopps · April 5, 2011 8:53PM

inept, underperforming, pathetic, dismal and waaaaaaaaay overpaid.

Now Dicek...great.

If this keeps up, I'll be watching Gunsmoke reruns.

Barndog · April 5, 2011 9:44PM

I read some article on boston.com in which the author called Beckett's performance "adequate." Yes, that was the exact word. If adequate = ERA of 5.40 (what he turned in last night), the standards have already been drastically lowered.

bking · April 5, 2011 10:49PM

<< What is more concerning to you: Salty starting 0-10 at the plate or pitchers he handled giving up 11 home runs, 26 runs, and 34 hits in 3 games? I'm going with his performance behind the plate as opposed to at the plate. It wouldn't be fair to blame him for all those hits, but I have to wonder if Varitek would have called these games better. >>

Might be too late to pass this on, but we Texas fans knew that Salty isn't exactly the most coachable guy in the world. Game calling isn't going to be his strength. But hey - thanks for that fireballer Mendez.

CEOBIDMC · April 6, 2011 12:39AM

wow. you sox fans panic pretty quickly eh? Im sure your $170 million dollar payroll will get you 80+ wins, dont fret!

bking · April 6, 2011 1:02AM

<< wow. you sox fans panic pretty quickly eh? Im sure your $170 million dollar payroll will get you 80+ wins, dont fret! >>

But they are already 4 games behind the Fighting Showalters!!!

MCMLVTopps · April 6, 2011 1:02AM

I wouldn't call it panicking, I'd call it telling it like it is. The payroll BTW is right at 162m per for 2011. That makes it about a mil per game. So far, I haven't seen $4m worth of talent and the performance is certainly sub par.

Gonna need more like 95+ games to have any post season acitivity IMO. Not a panic, but certainly ample disgust. Beckett for one sure isn't worth $17m...anyone can google the payroll and do the math. These guys simply aren't supposed to be 0-4, maybe 2-2, but not where they are, and, after tonight, could well be 0-5.

TheVon · April 6, 2011 2:40AM

I hate stats like this, but I couldn't resist posting it anyway. The Globe reported that the number of teams that have started 0-4 and made it to the World Series is zero.

MCMLVTopps · April 6, 2011 3:52AM

Here's another one Von...

Beckett's salary for 2011 is $17m. The average pitcher gets 30 starts per season. Therefore, Beckett picks up a cool $561k++ for each start.

I won't break it down into the equivalent of a 40-hour work week, it's beyond disgusting.

TheVon · April 6, 2011 3:59AM

I don't know what you're talking about, Al! That's just about $5,610 per pitch.

Barndog · April 6, 2011 7:24AM

this start won't help NESN's ratings to recover, that's for sure.

MCMLVTopps · April 6, 2011 12:40PM

PATHETIC

And now the Yankees in for the Fenway opener on Friday...this ain't lookin' too good!!

Goot · April 6, 2011 1:06PM

<< PATHETIC

And now the Yankees in for the Fenway opener on Friday...this ain't lookin' too good!! >>

Someone will HAVE to win when the Rays come to down next week....at least i think so.

TheVon · April 6, 2011 2:09PM

Well, at least it wasn't a surprise that Dice-K lost.

TheVon · April 6, 2011 2:29PM

Before the season started I got 4-1 odds for the Sox to win the World Series. I just checked with my sportsbook and the odds have changed to 5-1 already.

I'm starting to feel better about the 20-1 odds I got on the Cinncinnatti Reds though.

Barndog · April 6, 2011 11:33PM

the hitting will get much better. Lester's pitching will get much better. I can't guarantee anything else.

aconte · April 7, 2011 5:10AM

0-6

Put a fork in them. They're done!

aconte

TheVon · April 7, 2011 6:34AM

<< the hitting will get much better. Lester's pitching will get much better. I can't guarantee anything else. >>

Well, Lester's pitching was there today.

jdip9 · April 7, 2011 10:56AM

<<<I'm starting to feel better about the 20-1 odds I got on the Cinncinnatti Reds though. >>>

Nice bet!...Surprised they were that high.

Sox 0-6...I'm not panicking yet, BUT....if the Yanks sweep this weekend (and its entirely possible given the pitching matchups), being down 7.5 games is a LOT to come back from.

I'll be at the game tomorrow. I'm expecting a lot of boos and Bronx cheers, it could get real ugly, real fast if they get 2-0 in the first inning or so.

Connecticoin · April 7, 2011 9:54PM

I am not posting again until the Red Sox win.

Brick · April 7, 2011 10:00PM

<< I am not posting again until the Red Sox win.

>>

We'll miss you.

Barndog · April 7, 2011 10:23PM

<< <<<I'm starting to feel better about the 20-1 odds I got on the Cinncinnatti Reds though. >>>

Nice bet!...Surprised they were that high.

Sox 0-6...I'm not panicking yet, BUT....if the Yanks sweep this weekend (and its entirely possible given the pitching matchups), being down 7.5 games is a LOT to come back from.

I'll be at the game tomorrow. I'm expecting a lot of boos and Bronx cheers, it could get real ugly, real fast if they get 2-0 in the first inning or so. >>

there should be no love for any Sox players during introductions. Francoma should receive the loudest jeers. Obviously, the basics of baseball weren't practiced enough during Spring training.

jdip9 · April 7, 2011 10:27PM

<<<there should be no love for any Sox players during introductions>>>

I think it'll be 80%-90% cheers during the intros, but the boos will rain down on the first guy to strike out looking or leave the bases loaded, that's for sure.

Based on some of their quotes yesterday, the players are definitely expecting the worst today from the fans.

Connecticoin · April 8, 2011 10:16AM

Nice to finally get the first win, but Lackey still sucks. Can we trade him to the Mets?

Garabaldi · April 9, 2011 4:18AM

Youks is really struggling.

Barndog · April 9, 2011 4:42AM

looks like we are witnessing the return of Suckholz. Last year an aberration?

jdip9 · April 9, 2011 10:32AM

I'm not ready to call Buchholz' last year an aberration...remember, Lester has struggled out the gate the last 2 years and nobody questioned him, so I'm willing to give Buchholz thru April to prove that he's the same guy he was last year.

Barndog · April 10, 2011 12:56PM

it would be great to get THAT Beckett every 5th game!

Connecticoin · April 10, 2011 11:42PM

<< it would be great to get THAT Beckett every 5th game! >>

No chit. I don't recall his curve ever breaking that much -- of course, that may be because it has been so long (probably since 2007) we have seen him pitch like that.

Garabaldi · April 11, 2011 12:28AM

Who the hell was on the mound last night in Beckett's uniform?

TheVon · April 11, 2011 2:05AM

Feel free to disagree, but I think Varitek needs to keep catching Beckett every 5th day. Screw Salty.

Barndog · April 11, 2011 2:59AM

speaking of Varitek. He just proposed to his girlfriend...some not named Heidi Watney.

jdip9 · April 11, 2011 7:52AM

<<<Feel free to disagree, but I think Varitek needs to keep catching Beckett every 5th day. Screw Salty. >>>

I agree. If Salty was a .300 20/100 guy like Victor, I'd say not so fast, but Salty is terrible. Does Theo really think he is all of a sudden going to become the next Carlton Fisk? Honestly, if at the AS break, Salty and Varitek are hitting for roughly the same average and OPS, I'd rather see Varitek get the majority of the work in the 2nd half.

jdip9 · April 11, 2011 7:55AM

<<<speaking of Varitek. He just proposed to his girlfriend...some not named Heidi Watney. >>>

Saw that bit of news, apparently he's getting Nick Swisher's sloppy seconds....

Barndog · April 11, 2011 9:46AM

would Theo release Matsuzaka despite owing him millions?

TheVon · April 11, 2011 9:52AM

Probably not . . . but I would.

The start of this season has really made me question everything I know about baseball. I honestly believed that the pitching would be good this year. Okay, I didn't really think Dice-K would be good, but I didn't think he'd be quite this bad.

jdip9 · April 11, 2011 11:24AM

<<<would Theo release Matsuzaka despite owing him millions?>>>

That would mean Theo would have to admit to a mistake. This is the same guy who still thinks JD Drew is worth "a tick over $14m" after 4 mediocre seasons in Boston.

jeffcbay · April 11, 2011 12:08PM

Okay, since ESPN is forcing me to watch two Red Sox games in a row, could someone please tell me why the guy sitting behind home plate holds up those two neon green signs every time the Red Sox gets a strikeout?

jeffcbay · April 11, 2011 12:39PM

Those two circle sign things... what the hell are they and what do they mean? Driving me nuts...

MCMLVTopps · April 11, 2011 12:41PM

Another dismal Dicek performance...after 7-0 I bailed.

Red Sox have quite a dilema on their hands...spotty to poor pitching and the inability to drive in runs. Far, FAR too many LOBs. The only positive thing I see is Pedroia, at a mere 5'7", he's one helluva player both defensively and offensively.

Unless this gets figured out soon, it could be a very, very long season.

BTW, I almost couldn't endure the ESPN broadcasters this weekend, in particular Hershheiser, is he bad or what?

Barndog · April 11, 2011 10:13PM

I watch baseball on ESPN with the volume turned to zero. No problem following the game without listening to boneheads. Same for FOX.

jeffcbay · April 11, 2011 10:55PM

So you die hard Sox fans don't know what that guy is holding up behind home plate?

TheVon · April 12, 2011 2:02AM

I've never seen those green signs before the last couple games so I don't know either.

Connecticoin · April 12, 2011 2:55AM

<< I watch baseball on ESPN with the volume turned to zero. No problem following the game without listening to boneheads. Same for FOX. >>

Well, at least Joe Morgan is gone. And I hope you know the Monday game was on NESN as well.

Barndog · April 12, 2011 9:19AM

<< 

<< I watch baseball on ESPN with the volume turned to zero. No problem following the game without listening to boneheads. Same for FOX. >>

Well, at least Joe Morgan is gone. And I hope you know the Monday game was on NESN as well. >>

I always try NESN first, even on Sunday nights...just in case

Remy and Orsillo are tolerable to good most of the time, often entertaining. They have knowledge of the Sox and tend to show it. Heidi Watney is a huge bonus (no sound necessary)

MCMLVTopps · April 12, 2011 10:54AM

Only when I'm FORCED to watch ESPN weekend broadcasts do I try to endure the dismal broadcasters. NESN, the only way to go!!

TheVon · April 12, 2011 12:19PM

Aside from one inning, Lester looked great. The hitting, on the other hand, continues to disappoint.

MCMLVTopps · April 12, 2011 9:22PM

2-9 ain't gonna get it!!

pitboss · April 13, 2011 1:30AM

Dump dice k, lackey, drew,salty and young . Eat the loss and bring up some kids, You may get lucky and we can live with your mistakes Epstein even if you can't.

MCMLVTopps · April 13, 2011 3:00AM

The 2011 salary is right at $162m...so far, very little to show for $11m!!!

I wonder if Drew etal dress in costume when they pick up their paychecks every other Monday? Too bad they can escape this embarrassment by utilizing direct deposit. I care not to run the numbers, it's close to lunch, I don't want to get sick.

Time for Tek to get his head in the right place and have some kinda closed door meeting and fire these guys up...the LOBs are beyond painful.

I'll bet Damon is loving life, big time right now...sitting in the dugout just smiling away.

MCMLVTopps · April 14, 2011 8:05AM

Guaranteed no loss today.

The 2011 Boston Red Sox

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