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    grote15grote15 Posts: 29,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just tried adding up all the excuses from Mets fans but me calculator only goes up to 99,999,999 so I had to stop there.

    Steve, Just ask your fellow Philly "fan" Kevin...he'll start talking about the strike zone and the umpires that want to go home...



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    lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i> I just tried adding up all the excuses from Mets fans but me calculator only goes up to 99,999,999 so I had to stop there.

    Steve, Just ask your fellow Philly "fan" Kevin...he'll start talking about the strike zone and the umpires that want to go home... >>




    Exactly! LOL
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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Instead of yapping the same old tired songs spend a few moments and prove your accusations.

    Steve >>



    Here's the proof....

    New York Mets record of 57 65 .467 - 13.5 games out of first place.....

    .....despite a team salary of $135,773,988 - second highest in MLB only to that other NY team.

    Excuses won't do it...performance will...hey I'm glad the Mets suck...makes it easier for my Phillies to win. Hardy, har har...and I'm looking forward to the post season and another parade.

    Mets fans can look forward to making more excuses.
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    lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>
    Mets fans can look forward to making more excuses. >>




    Actually, I'm looking foward to laughing heartily and dragging up all the "Phillies will win it all posts" once they go down in flames.

    It's coming, get your popcorn ready!
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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice 40th year reunion get together of the '69 Mets championship season including Berra who was a coach, Ryan, Seaver, Koosman, Grote and others...

    ...although I can't remember Grote's uniform number?
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 29,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    .although I can't remember Grote's uniform number?

    Beats me, LOL...



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    << <i>If the Mets finish the season 10 games or more out, will Minaya keep his job?

    What's the general feeling out there? >>




    Mets owner confirms Minaya's job is safe
    Wilpon tells paper GM, who backs Manuel, will return in '10

    By Marty Noble / MLB.com
    NEW YORK -- Whatever changes are in the offing for the Mets before Opening Day 2010 will involve neither general manager Omar Minaya nor manager Jerry Manuel. Owner Fred Wilpon seemingly laid the blame for the Mets' poor season on other factors -- the spate of injuries that has undermined the team's batting order and starting rotation -- Saturday when he indicated Minaya would return.

    Wilpon, who has assumed an increasingly inconspicuous role in the operation of the team in the past two years, was quoted by The New York Post on Sunday as saying, "Am I going to bring Omar back next year? Absolutely. That's a fact." The newspaper also reported that Minaya appeared inclined to retain Manuel: "Jerry is my guy," Minaya said to the Post.

    Manuel said that although assurances from the general manager are nice, they won't affect the way he manages the team over the season's final 39 games.

    "I appreciate those things, but we're still trying to win games," Manuel said Sunday. "It doesn't change how we go about things."

    The Post report came weeks after Wilpon's son, COO Jeff Wilpon, had told Minaya and Manuel each had his support.

    A three-year contract extension the Mets negotiated with Minaya in October takes effect next year. Manuel is signed through the 2010 season. The Mets have options on both contracts.

    The injuries have been the critical factor in the Mets losing 66 of their first 123 games. But the club's lack of effective replacement players and Minaya's recent episode involving his lieutenant Tony Bernazard and reporter Adam Rubin had prompted speculation that Minaya's job was in jeopardy. If it had been, Manuel's job might have been jeopardized, too.

    In the news conference announcing Bernazard's dismissal, Minaya criticized Rubin, who first investigated Bernazard's behavior.

    Jeff Wilpon issued a public apology, and Minaya later apologized in private to the reporter.
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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If the Mets finish the season 10 games or more out, will Minaya keep his job?

    What's the general feeling out there? >>




    Mets owner confirms Minaya's job is safe
    Wilpon tells paper GM, who backs Manuel, will return in '10

    By Marty Noble / MLB.com
    NEW YORK -- Whatever changes are in the offing for the Mets before Opening Day 2010 will involve neither general manager Omar Minaya nor manager Jerry Manuel. Owner Fred Wilpon seemingly laid the blame for the Mets' poor season on other factors -- the spate of injuries that has undermined the team's batting order and starting rotation -- Saturday when he indicated Minaya would return.

    Wilpon, who has assumed an increasingly inconspicuous role in the operation of the team in the past two years, was quoted by The New York Post on Sunday as saying, "Am I going to bring Omar back next year? Absolutely. That's a fact." The newspaper also reported that Minaya appeared inclined to retain Manuel: "Jerry is my guy," Minaya said to the Post.

    Manuel said that although assurances from the general manager are nice, they won't affect the way he manages the team over the season's final 39 games.

    "I appreciate those things, but we're still trying to win games," Manuel said Sunday. "It doesn't change how we go about things."

    The Post report came weeks after Wilpon's son, COO Jeff Wilpon, had told Minaya and Manuel each had his support.

    A three-year contract extension the Mets negotiated with Minaya in October takes effect next year. Manuel is signed through the 2010 season. The Mets have options on both contracts.

    The injuries have been the critical factor in the Mets losing 66 of their first 123 games. But the club's lack of effective replacement players and Minaya's recent episode involving his lieutenant Tony Bernazard and reporter Adam Rubin had prompted speculation that Minaya's job was in jeopardy. If it had been, Manuel's job might have been jeopardized, too.

    In the news conference announcing Bernazard's dismissal, Minaya criticized Rubin, who first investigated Bernazard's behavior.

    Jeff Wilpon issued a public apology, and Minaya later apologized in private to the reporter. >>




    That is good news...now for the foreseeable future, I only gotta worry about the Braves and Marlins in the NL East.
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    chirp
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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought a few Mets fans here said that the Mets were gonna be "spoilers" - well ya know ya gotta win the series against a contender to be known as a spoiler. LOL
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Come Tuesday Im a mets fan
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    image

    Goodnight Mets
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    lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image

    Goodnight Mets >>



    This pic only proves that you do wear a dress and paint your nails. Leave the polish on, it's sexy! image
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Humor is the right medicine for a bad season, but don't you get sick of taking it year after year?

    Open up and say AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
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    lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Open up and say AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh >>



    You're the one in the dress and painted nails, I thought that was your job sweetie image
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    The only one wearing the dresses right now is your starting rotation and you know Santana wants out!

    BAM
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    lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The only one wearing the dresses right now is your starting rotation and you know Santana wants out!

    BAM >>



    You really thought that deserved a Bam??

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    Matt,

    I don't think its fair to not acknowledge the fact that the mets were hit with a ton of injuries this year.

    Imagine if the Phillies lost Rollins, Ibenz, Utley and Howard for the amount of games that the Mets lost to injuries to the key players on their roster.

    While I love that the Phils are winning, I do kinda wish that it was a battle like the last few years.

    Its not the same with Flordia and Atlanta..

    I know next year will be a different story....

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    lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Matt,

    I don't think its fair to not acknowledge the fact that the mets were hit with a ton of injuries this year.

    Imagine if the Phillies lost Rollins, Ibenz, Utley and Howard for the amount of games that the Mets lost to injuries to the key players on their roster.

    While I love that the Phils are winning, I do kinda wish that it was a battle like the last few years.

    Its not the same with Flordia and Atlanta..

    I know next year will be a different story.... >>



    I agree Felicia but whatta gonna do? Sometimes it goes like thatimage

    The Mets are just not a good team right now.
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    I think the Nats have a good shot at 4th place.
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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,746 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now Santana needs surgery... Bone spurs which is not a big deal, either way I would have shut him down anyways.
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 29,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't recall the last time a professional team has been so thoroughly and absolutely decimated by injuries...I'm not saying all the injuries are an excuse, but geez, this is riducilous!


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    cubbies beat up on them pretty good including a GRAND SLAM from Jake Fox.

    final score 11-4
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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>cubbies beat up on them pretty good including a GRAND SLAM from Jake Fox.

    final score 11-4 >>



    The OP is gonna be very upset with you for bringing this thread to the top - He wanted to keep it buried.

    In fact, he's got my pet cat "Mittens" kidnapped and held hostage and won't release Mittens until this thread "gets buried on at least page10" he said in a PM to me...so I'm being careful not to post too much in this thread anymore.
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭

    I don't think its fair to not acknowledge the fact that the mets were hit with a ton of injuries this year.

    Imagine if the Phillies lost Rollins, Ibenz, Utley and Howard for the amount of games that the Mets lost to injuries to the key players on their roster.

    While I love that the Phils are winning, I do kinda wish that it was a battle like the last few years.

    Its not the same with Flordia and Atlanta..

    I know next year will be a different story.... >>

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    If we did we would be accused of making excuses.

    Finally a Phillies fan that gets it!


    Steve
    Good for you.
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    By the way isn't it ironic that the light switch was turned off on Stalin?


    BAM!



    Steve
    Good for you.
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 29,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is it possible to poof one's own thread?

    P.S. Mittens sure looks nervous...


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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't think its fair to not acknowledge the fact that the mets were hit with a ton of injuries this year.

    Imagine if the Phillies lost Rollins, Ibenz, Utley and Howard for the amount of games that the Mets lost to injuries to the key players on their roster.

    While I love that the Phils are winning, I do kinda wish that it was a battle like the last few years.

    Its not the same with Flordia and Atlanta..

    I know next year will be a different story.... >>

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    If we did we would be accused of making excuses.

    Finally a Phillies fan that gets it!


    Steve >>



    ...then it also has to be acknowledged that the Mets management absolutely sucks, and that they did a poor job analyzing and evaluating the players they signed because reviewing player's past and possible future injuries are all part of the equation. Also part of the equation, which has been expressed by some Mets fans here is their poor training staff...well, who hires these trainers...come on now...you can get this one...right...Mets management hires the trainers and doctors and it is up to Mets management to find the best professional help when needed instead of picking a trainer's name out of the phone book Yellow Pages of "Joe's Baseball Players Rehab Specialists and Pizza Shop"
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 29,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mets management from Wilpon down has been pitiful...and what's worse is that these clowns will all get a free pass this year due to all the injuries. The truth is that despite a wealth of resources, the Mets ballclub has been poorly run and seems almost inept at times...and there's no help on the way, either...this club reminds me of the early 90s Mets, lots of big contrcats and very little in the way of results. Is Dallas Green available? LOL..


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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Yeah the training staff could prevent Wright from getting hit in the head, and they could have prevented
    the guys that jammed fingers etc, about the only injury that you could possibly blame them for is Reyes hamstring.
    And in case you were not aware the hammie has been that kids achilles heal since he joined the team.

    Do the Mets need help? Yes they do.


    Just once I'd like to hear something of substance from you stevek.


    Steve




    Good for you.
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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yeah the training staff could prevent Wright from getting hit in the head, and they could have prevented
    the guys that jammed fingers etc, about the only injury that you could possibly blame them for is Reyes hamstring.
    And in case you were not aware the hammie has been that kids achilles heal since he joined the team.

    Do the Mets need help? Yes they do.


    Just once I'd like to hear something of substance from you stevek.


    Steve >>




    "Joe's Baseball Players Rehab Specialists and Pizza Shop"

    That's not something of substance? Pizza happens to be a very delicious substance. LOL
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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is it possible to poof one's own thread?

    P.S. Mittens sure looks nervous... >>



    You can keep it - dam cat was always a Carolina Panthers and Jacksonville Jaguars fan anyway - i never could figure out why?
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Joe's Baseball Players Rehab Specialists and Pizza Shop"

    That's not something of substance? Pizza happens to be a very delicious substance. LOL








    I rest my case.


    Steve
    Good for you.
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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Joe's Baseball Players Rehab Specialists and Pizza Shop"

    That's not something of substance? Pizza happens to be a very delicious substance. LOL

    I rest my case.

    Steve >>




    ...and rest the case that Mets management absolutely sucks and you've still got your head in the sand as to the reasons why? You don't seem to want to face reality...and here's some reality for ya...your Mets are 17 games, count 'em, 17 games out...probably the most pathetic performance in MLB history, considering their payroll is second highest in MLB. Case closed.
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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Reality lesson for Winpitcher:


    Philadelphia 74 53 .583 - - 6-4 L1 31-21 19-8 18-12 6-12 33-30 41-23 48-39 26-14 10-5 16-14 662 561 73-54 8/29 vs ATL, L 1-9 8/30 vs ATL, 8:05P
    Atlanta 68 61 .527 7.0 28 6-4 W1 28-20 15-16 18-17 7-8 35-30 33-31 40-43 28-18 8-4 22-18 589 523 71-58 8/29 @ PHI, W 9-1 8/30 @ PHI, 8:05P
    Florida 67 62 .519 8.0 27 3-7 L3 27-20 14-18 16-16 10-8 36-31 31-31 42-44 25-18 7-6 22-15 607 618 63-66 8/29 vs SD, L 4-7 8/30 vs SD, 1:10P
    New York 58 72 .446 17.5 17 2-8 L2 23-27 17-16 13-19 5-10 34-32 24-40 45-51 13-21 4-7 16-18 548 612 58-72 8/29 @ CHC, L 4-11 8/30 @ CHC, 2:20P
    Washington 46 84 .354 29.5 5 3-7 L2 13-34 16-26 10-13 7-11 27-39 19-45 36-66 10-18 4-8 14-20 596 710 55-75 8/29 @ STL, L 4-9 8/30 @ STL, 2:15P
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Worry about your own team, remember they too have been the worst in MLB at times.

    I don't need a reality check, I know full well where my team sits in the standings. I also know full well
    why. I also know that your team at times has been dead last in the standings too.


    I know more then you will ever know regarding them too.


    Good luck the rest of the year.


    Steve
    Good for you.
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    What's the matter Steve? You must feel your mediocre team would not be as good as they are had the Mets been healthy
    all year, why else would you make excuse after excuse? lets not forget the Nats are in this division too and the Sillies have fattened that record up at their
    expense.


    Seems you made more excuses why the Mets are where they are then Met fans have.


    Steve
    Good for you.
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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats to the Mets - their magic number is now down to 4.


    Philadelphia 79 59 .572 - - 4-6 L1 34-22 19-12 20-13 6-12 36-31 43-28 51-44 28-15 10-5 20-18 696 604 78-60 9/10 @ WSH, L 7-8 9/11 vs NYM, LIVE
    Florida 75 65 .536 5.0 19 7-3 W3 34-23 14-18 17-16 10-8 39-33 36-32 49-47 26-18 7-6 23-17 679 666 71-69 9/10 @ NYM, W 13-4 9/11 vs WSH, LIVE
    Atlanta 72 68 .514 8.0 16 4-6 W1 30-23 17-20 18-17 7-8 35-33 37-35 44-49 28-19 8-5 24-21 626 567 76-64 9/10 @ HOU, W 9-7 9/11 @ STL, LIVE
    New York 62 78 .443 18.0 6 4-6 L3 23-30 20-17 14-21 5-10 36-36 26-42 49-55 13-23 4-7 16-18 587 661 62-78 9/10 vs FLA, L 4-13 9/11 @ PHI, LIVE
    Washington 48 92 .343 32.0 E 2-8 W1 15-38 16-27 10-16 7-11 29-43 19-49 38-71 10-21 4-8 16-22 631 766 58-82 9/10 vs PHI, W 8-7 9/11 @ FLA, LIVE
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 29,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can PSA please poof this thread...TIA...image


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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I honestly and sincerely believe, on my pet turtle's grave that I had as a kid, that to this day I mourn that turtle....I believe the Mets would have won the NL East by at least 10 games, possibly 20 games or more if it hadn't been for injuries.
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Stop making excuses on why your team is in first place.


    Steve
    Good for you.
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    # Pitchers

    20 Craig Anderson
    26 Galen Cisco
    38 Roger Craig
    35 Ray Daviault
    27 Larry Foss
    27, 34 Dave Hillman
    47 Jay Hook
    29 Willard Hunter
    15 Al Jackson
    36 Sherman Jones
    41 Clem Labine
    19 Ken MacKenzie
    36 Bob Miller
    24 Bob Miller
    26 Vinegar Bend
    26 Herb Moford
    22 Bob Moorhead



    # Catchers

    8 Chris Cannizzaro
    44 Harry Chiti
    17 Choo Choo Coleman
    12 Joe Ginsberg
    5 Hobie Landrith
    5 Joe Pignatano
    16 Sammy Taylor



    # Infielders

    f Birth3, 11 Ed Bouchee
    2, 7 Elio Chacon
    6 Cliff Cook
    12 Sammy Drake
    6 Rick Herrscher
    14 Gil Hodges
    10 Rod Kanehl
    21 Ed Kranepool
    18 Felix Mantilla
    6 Jim Marshall
    4 Charlie Neal
    2 Marv Throneberry
    17 Don Zimmer



    # Outfielders

    1 Richie Ashburn
    3 Gus Bell
    23 Joe Christopher
    29 John DeMerit
    9 Jim Hickman
    16 Bobby Gene
    25 Frank Thomas
    11 Gene Woodling








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    lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I believe the Mets would have won the NL East by at least 10 games, possibly 20 games or more if it hadn't been for injuries. >>



    Smartest thing you have said all year! I agree completely image
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I see the Sillie BP blew another game.

    October is not going to look pretty In Sillieland.


    Steve
    Good for you.
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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mets magic number remains at 4 - anybody gonna attend any of those Mets 2009 elimination parties?
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    WaltWalt Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭
    I have to wonder what Charlie is thinking. His starting pitching has been darn good down the stretch. Moyer fumbles a bit in the first inning
    and then just shuts the Mets down cold, why not keep him in? It's obvious that the Phillies like to fold in the 8th or 9th when its close, why
    even bring in those head cases? I would rather have a tired Cliff Lee or tired Hamels pitching the 8th and 9th than anyone in the Phillies
    bull pen. We all remember how great Lidge was last year, but we forget that Madson was lights out last year too.
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    stevekstevek Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    tell ya what, just to show ya Mets fans I'm not a bad guy...anyone here guessing right the Mets elimination day, will win two seasons tickets, box seats, at Shea Stadium for the 2010 season.
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    lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Mets magic number remains at 4 - anybody gonna attend any of those Mets 2009 elimination parties? >>



    No but I will be here for the Phillies elimination party. In fact I'm the Maitre D and you're the guest of honor Steve.

    Please plan to attend. Once we get closer to the actual date, I'll be sure to let you know what time it starts.

    Of course it may come sooner than expected if they keep throwing those scrubs out there in an attempt to close out games.

    Too bad the Phillies didn't pick up closer when they had the chance LOL

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