Thanks to John Nanney's Discovery, 2008 ASE's with 2007 reverse going through the roof

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  • YaHa
    YaHa Posts: 4,220 ✭
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    << <i>They asked me if I was with the press, I wonder if they would have answered me sooner if I said yes?

    Evidently they have inundated by the numismatic press!

    Regards, John >>



    the people involved in this discussion are so far ahead of the curve of the Numismatic Press it's not even funny.. NN or CW should file an FOIA request with the MInt and find out how many of these 08/07s were made.. and how many were shipped and how many were caught prior to shipping and held back / melted.. period.. we all want to know what the magic numbers are.. someone HAS to know.. the Mint keeps scrupulous records of Mintages, who's working when, on what coin press, how many of what is made.. dies are numbered.. i would ASSume the press workers have to sign the dies in and out of whatever little room they keep them in.. they might even have to wear pocket-less, cuff-less overalls (like the guys who work in counting rooms in Casinos).. and go through metal detectors as they enter and leave work, no?..

    i read the whole rigamarole about how to file an FOIA request, and either one or some of us do it, or, more rightly.. the Numismatic Press should do it.. it would make for one Helluva story.. and we could get the truth (maybe) and stop flailing around here speculating.. >>




    You gave me a headache reading your reply. I feel ya!!image
  • SUMORADA
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    Man.......jessewvu
    you are the king of charts......thank you image If you were my ex -wifes chart guy I'd have to shoot ya!.....nothin personal...your just real good at it...all kidding aside, thank you four taking your time to supply (guys like myself).....guys who need pics....... this info, I hope you score alot of these......thank you.....Eric
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  • jessewvu
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    no problem!

    If anyone has something they would like plotted out, send me a PM!
  • COINB0Y
    COINB0Y Posts: 4,505
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    Bravo, Jesse!
  • hrlaser
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    << <i>
    You gave me a headache reading your reply. I feel ya!!image >>



    heh.. i'm not sure if that's a compliment or an insult.. but in either case, thanks.. no charge..
    image
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  • 7over8
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    these are starting to run real dry guys.

    multiple orders rec'd today and not much success.

    2 for 85 on the 2007 reverse.

  • Bochiman
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    << <i>I called the US Mint office today and spoke with someone about this situation. Don't worry, the number I called was not the 1-800 number, I have an insider number image

    I asked if the US Mint was/had searched through orders before they shipped to look for the subject coins. They are going to call me back tomorrow. I'll let y'all know if they do and if there is any news. They asked me if I was with the press, I wonder if they would have answered me sooner if I said yes? >>



    No, you still would have gotten the runaround. The difference is that if you were the press, they would have had to refer you to someone with "press training". A more "official spokesperson" before they blew you off image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • grote15
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    This was probably mentioned pages ago, but has anyone noticed that the photo of the 2008 Eagle on the Mint's web site shows one with an 07 reverse?


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • bestday
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    << <i>these are starting to run real dry guys.

    multiple orders rec'd today and not much success.

    2 for 85 on the 2007 reverse. >>



    It is looking like it ain't going to be , no 47,000 of the 2008/07s......
  • morgansforever
    morgansforever Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Just ended @ $1625, with crappy pics. How soon before we see $2000?

    Is this a record?

    ASELINK
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  • Tootawl
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    << <i>This was probably mentioned pages ago, but has anyone noticed that the photo of the 2008 Eagle on the Mint's web site shows one with an 07 reverse? >>


    Yeah, it was mentioned a few thousand posts ago. image
    PCGS Currency: HOF 2013, Best Low Ball Set 2009-2014, 2016, 2018. Appreciation Award 2015, Best Showcase 2018, Numerous others.
  • MilesWaits
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    << <i>Just ended @ $1625, with crappy pics. How soon before we see $2000?

    Is this a record?

    ASELINK >>



    2000 Posts or dollars??

    Miles
    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • CaptHenway
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    "My brain hurts!"

    Prof. Otis Gumby
    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • Tootawl
    Tootawl Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭
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    Can some one explain what all those charts mean?
    My guess is that the number of auctions are being lower and the prices ae getting higher.
    PCGS Currency: HOF 2013, Best Low Ball Set 2009-2014, 2016, 2018. Appreciation Award 2015, Best Showcase 2018, Numerous others.
  • renman95
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    1415 coins outstanding!image
  • Burnie
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    Where are all the coins? Surely with 47,000 coins minted there should be more for sale? Are they being hoarded? Or do people have them and they simply don't know it?

    How long will the interest in this variety last? Lastly does anyone think its worthwhile still ordering from the Mint? I have not had much luck but it would seem that others have....image
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  • Tootawl
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    I wonder how many are already slabbed but not listed as reverse of 07 and the owners donlt know what they have.
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  • clackamas
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  • CaptHenway
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    Lots of people buy stuff from the government and never look at it.
    Ever see the "Broken CC" GSA dollar? The GSA found this neat error CC coin (think it was an 1884; too lazy to look it up) broken in half in an original bag, and decided to use it to hype the sale of the coins. They sent out press releases (I was with Coin World at the time) telling how this special coin would be sent out totally at random, with a letter enclosed asking the recipient to contact them to let them know who got it.

    They send out the coin, and nothing happens. After a few months they contact the person it was sent to (gee---they DID know who got it) and asked him if he had received it. He said yes, but that he had never opened it. Should he?

    TD
    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • Konahead
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    << <i>Bravo, Jesse! >>


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  • 19Lyds
    19Lyds Posts: 26,520 ✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>

    << <i>Just ended @ $1625, with crappy pics. How soon before we see $2000?

    Is this a record?

    ASELINK >>



    2000 Posts or dollars??

    Miles >>



    Wow. I wonder how the new owner will feel if this thing milk spots in 6 months or so??

    Better yet, I wonder what PCGS will pay on it if it does??
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



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  • Bochiman
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    << <i>Can some one explain what all those charts mean?
    My guess is that the number of auctions are being lower and the prices ae getting higher. >>




    Who said tawl guys aren't smart?

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    btw.....I wonder what the number of auctions will look like when people that sent them to PCGS under normal tier start getting them back?

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • Tootawl
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    I try. image
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  • dcarr
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    I went to my local coin club meeting tonight and in the auction was a 2008 (reverse of 2007) in the original box with a copy of the Coin World article. I bid and won it for $87.
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  • kiyote
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    << <i>I went to my local coin club meeting tonight and in the auction was a 2008 (reverse of 2007) in the original box with a copy of the Coin World article. I bid and won it for $87. >>



    You suck! image Congrats!
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  • CoinMaster1229
    CoinMaster1229 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭
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    Does anyone have an opion on sealed boxes of 2008-W silver eagles, what shipping date ranges offer the most hope?????
  • TrustNo1
    TrustNo1 Posts: 1,359 ✭
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    I have a few 2007's with the reverse of 2006!!!!!!!!! payday!
  • DuPapa
    DuPapa Posts: 495 ✭✭
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    I placed an order last night.

    I think the chances of getting the '07 reverse are slim to none because of this email from the mint..
    ____________________________

    Greetings from the United States Mint.
    We regret to inform you that the item(s) listed below
    are currently on backorder. Please expect your item(s)
    to arrive within the timeframe listed below.

    Item: Z8F Qty: 12 Exp Ship: 5/24/08
  • morgansforever
    morgansforever Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1428 posts, can it go 10k?

    I believe someone else stated, that the number of posts, will equal the number that escaped from the Mint.

    10k, I can live with that.
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  • JohnMaben
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    "Just ended @ $1625, with crappy pics. How soon before we see $2000? Is this a record?"

    We sold one last night for $1750. It was a best offer that was accepted on our BIN.

    John

    John Maben
    Pegasus Coin and Jewelry (Brick and Mortar)
    ANA LM, PNG, APMD, FUN, Etc
    800-381-2646

  • CB2597
    CB2597 Posts: 3,042
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    << <i>We sold one last night for $1750. It was a best offer that was accepted on our BIN. >>



    WOOOWW!!!! John was it NGC or PCGS slabbed?

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  • morgansforever
    morgansforever Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    <<We sold one last night for $1750. It was a best offer that was accepted on our BIN>>.

    For the love of all things flipable, holy shat!

    So we will break 2k for a PCGS MS70 FS.

    I have a few raw, but don't feel the need to submit, probably come back 69 anyway.
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  • JohnMaben
    JohnMaben Posts: 957 ✭✭✭
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    $1750 Link


    Best Offer $1750

    If link doesn't work, the auction number is 130221205002

    Since it was a Best Offer I don't know if eBay will display the offer price,
    but it was $1750, and accepted.


    John Maben
    Pegasus Coin and Jewelry (Brick and Mortar)
    ANA LM, PNG, APMD, FUN, Etc
    800-381-2646

  • morgansforever
    morgansforever Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Hi John, was NGC soft on the grading?

    May consider submitting 10, should I bother?

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  • JohnMaben
    JohnMaben Posts: 957 ✭✭✭
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    Not sure what you mean by "soft", but these coins come nice and I don't think you will be disappointed with the grades.

    John Maben
    Pegasus Coin and Jewelry (Brick and Mortar)
    ANA LM, PNG, APMD, FUN, Etc
    800-381-2646

  • halfhunter
    halfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
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    I have been wondering why the USD is on the rise with PMs tanking and oil at new highs.
    It's got to be that these 08/07s are carrying the US economy. imageimage

    Regards, John
    Need the following OBW rolls to complete my 46-64 Roosevelt roll set:
    1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
    Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
  • 2manycoins2fewfunds
    2manycoins2fewfunds Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>Lots of people buy stuff from the government and never look at it.
    Ever see the "Broken CC" GSA dollar? The GSA found this neat error CC coin (think it was an 1884; too lazy to look it up) broken in half in an original bag, and decided to use it to hype the sale of the coins. They sent out press releases (I was with Coin World at the time) telling how this special coin would be sent out totally at random, with a letter enclosed asking the recipient to contact them to let them know who got it.

    They send out the coin, and nothing happens. After a few months they contact the person it was sent to (gee---they DID know who got it) and asked him if he had received it. He said yes, but that he had never opened it. Should he?

    TD >>



    I'm guilty of having Gold Eagles from 1990s that are unopened. I asked if PCGS would give me FS labels and they said no!
  • tychojoe
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    I love how even some recently made orders (like 19Lyds May 5th) are coming up roses!

    Those late scores give me hope that one of the three orders I made since Apr 23 will be among them.

    Just curious, How long did it take from first shipping until Halfhunter's discovery?
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  • dlimb2
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    Many of the NGC MS70 ER's are way over graded!
  • TwoSides2aCoin
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    It's Al Gore's fault


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  • dlimb2
    dlimb2 Posts: 3,449
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    Your darn tooten it is, you know he invented the Internet!
  • halfhunter
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    Just curious, How long did it take from first shipping until Halfhunter's discovery?

    Not exactly sure what you mean but:

    I Ordered 2 on 3/17 - Backordered
    Invoice/Packing Slip dated 4/04/08
    e-mail conf. shows shipped 4/08/08.
    Received 04/14. Both were 08/07s

    Some folks may have received these earlier and just not noticed the difference.
    Hope this helps.

    Regards, John
    Need the following OBW rolls to complete my 46-64 Roosevelt roll set:
    1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
    Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
  • COINB0Y
    COINB0Y Posts: 4,505
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    There is going to be an acute shortage of these Coins!

    PCGS Population of MS70 First Strike is now ONLY 82 Coins, up just 2 from last week!

    PCGS Population of MS69 First Strike is 793 Coins
  • jsf
    jsf Posts: 1,889
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    133 auctions
    -69 36/133 27.1%
    -70 22/133 16.5
    Other 75/133 56.4
  • 2manycoins2fewfunds
    2manycoins2fewfunds Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭
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    There may be a shortage of those with the cute little flag but there won't be a shortage of PCGS slabbed 07/08s.
  • boucharda
    boucharda Posts: 2,941
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    << <i>Many of the NGC MS70 ER's are way over graded! >>



    WAY overgraded???? So they should be 67's or, if lucky, 68"s??? Personally I have no problem determining which coins will NOT be 70's but I can't get a grip on which coins WILL be 70's. All my NGC 70's look like 70's to me and, only on ASE's, I have a greater fear of spotting with the PCGS coins than NGC. Risky putting out that much moola and having to vacuum pack it and pray.
  • CB2597
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    << <i>I have a greater fear of spotting with the PCGS coins than NGC. Risky putting out that much moola and having to vacuum pack it and pray. >>


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  • CoinMeister
    CoinMeister Posts: 651 ✭✭✭✭
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    Just noticed Gainesville Coins has some MS 69 ER NGC back on their website. I called in and ordered a MS70 ER as I have noticed a spike in price on "the bay" for these. The order taker told me they only have a handful left in ER and the next batch they get will be brown labled.
    "What we are never changes, but who we are ... never stops changing."
  • boucharda
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    MCM has 5 ER70's available for $699....$150 price difference for ER. I like a company that puts its prices on their website (updates as needed). It's a pain to have to call to get a price....
  • CoinMeister
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    << <i>MCM has 5 ER70's available for $699....$150 price difference for ER. I like a company that puts its prices on their website (updates as needed). It's a pain to have to call to get a price.... >>



    I don't mind calling in for price since the price for these are volatile right now. GC is less expensive than MCM for ER70's.
    "What we are never changes, but who we are ... never stops changing."

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