Official NFL HOF autograph set thread???

Reese3333 · February 27, 2008 5:36AM

As some of you know, I have been searching for a Len Ford autograph for some time now. I picked this one up from Kevin Keating. The other signatures on the page I am not familair with. The only ones I can really make out are John Kissell and Ebba St Claire? Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks!
Reese

envoy98 · February 27, 2008 5:54AM

I don't collect this set, but there is a local dealer who has a cut auto of Nagurski and a UD cut auto of Lombardi (cut check put on a card). It's a PSA 8 already. I believe he is asking $550 for the Lombardi and $65 for the Nagurski. The Nagurski is not authenticated but it looks good and I'm sure it's real. Either of these a good buy?

tnspro · February 27, 2008 6:00AM

Hal Herring - alive
Derrell Palmer - alive
John Kissell - D-92
Cliff Lewis - D-02

Lin Houston - D-95
Bob Oristaglio - D-95
Ken Carpenter - alive

that is what I see so far

tnspro · February 27, 2008 6:02AM

Ebba St. Claire - baseball D-82

pebblyjack · February 27, 2008 8:28AM

Matt Batts was a baseball catcher in the 1950s and is still alive.

Randy

Reese3333 · February 27, 2008 9:19AM

Thanks for all the help guys!

I think I have confirmed one more:
Chuck Stobbs-Baseball Alive

These are the last two I can't seem to figure out:

Reese3333 · February 27, 2008 10:02AM

<< I don't collect this set, but there is a local dealer who has a cut auto of Nagurski and a UD cut auto of Lombardi (cut check put on a card). It's a PSA 8 already. I believe he is asking $550 for the Lombardi and $65 for the Nagurski. The Nagurski is not authenticated but it looks good and I'm sure it's real. Either of these a good buy? >>

Josh,

The last few Lombardi cuts sold for well under $550. Here are the recent completed auctions from ebay.

02 SP Legendary Cuts
SCG 96-$455
Raw-$393

2002 UD F/X cuts
Raw-$420
Raw-$425

A PSA/DNA envelope signed by Nagurski just sold for $50. A raw index card sold for $25, while two others did not sell with opening bids of $34 and $49.

Hope this helps!
Reese

gregm13 · February 27, 2008 1:03PM

<< I don't collect this set, but there is a local dealer who has a cut auto of Nagurski and a UD cut auto of Lombardi (cut check put on a card). It's a PSA 8 already. I believe he is asking $550 for the Lombardi and $65 for the Nagurski. The Nagurski is not authenticated but it looks good and I'm sure it's real. Either of these a good buy? >>

As Reese pointed out, the Lombardi is fairly high. There are a lot of Lombardi cut auto'd cards out there...and the going rate is normally b/t $400 to $500. $550 is high but not obnoxiosuly expensive. Are you thinking of buying it?

Rgs,

Greg M.

jradke4 · February 29, 2008 12:46AM

greg,

nice try on the herber. i saw that you had emailed the seller. good luck to all with bidding.

jay

gregm13 · February 29, 2008 1:35AM

<< greg,

nice try on the herber. i saw that you had emailed the seller. good luck to all with bidding.

jay >>

Jay,

You would have done the same

Greg M.

jradke4 · February 29, 2008 2:05AM

well to be honest your right. i was about to email him with an offer and noticed ours and his reply.

any news from frank??

Reese3333 · February 29, 2008 5:01AM

Good luck guys. This should be interesting

jradke4 · February 29, 2008 5:04AM

well its been bid up to 300 already. thats 100 less then gregs offer to end the item early.

Reese3333 · February 29, 2008 5:14AM

It's a really nice card. I was starting to wonder if it was actually released since it has been about a month since NT went live and none of the 6 had hit ebay.

jradke4 · February 29, 2008 5:25AM

me too, but i figure since it was a low pop card it might take awhile. plus others sellers might be waiting to see what one really brings. there isnt much market data out there for the Herber's. i plan to be a big player for this card. it would leave me just curly let to get all my HOF Packers. I doubt we will see a curly any time soon, but with some of the ones out there that arent on a card there must be checks floating out there somewhere. after all many of these guys were either club/nfl execs, plus nearly all payments were in the form of checks in those days.

so as i said to greg, i will probably be all in for this card.

Reese3333 · February 29, 2008 5:41AM

I came across this auction earlier today. I didn't know that Paddy Driscoll had a baseball card. I know its unlikely, but I guess it means we can move him out of the "impossible" category.

Paddy Driscoll 1919 Zeenut

jradke4 · February 29, 2008 5:58AM

i saw that card out there a day or so ago. wasnt sure if that was really the same guy or not.

jradke4 · February 29, 2008 6:01AM

strange a google search shows he played one year in baseball, 1917. yet the card is 1919.

Reese3333 · February 29, 2008 6:10AM

I can't tell from the picture, but the seller seems to think it is the same person. Its unlikely though that there are any signed copies floating around. Driscoll's autos are pretty tough to find

jradke4 · February 29, 2008 6:15AM

i have my doubts about that zee nut. under driscoll it says LA. paddy played for Chi NL (I take that to mean the cubs) in 1917. on the wika site that links to his baseball stats it only shows one year 1917.

Reese3333 · February 29, 2008 6:18AM

Probably not the football player then, oh well, maybe in next years National Treasures.

tnspro · February 29, 2008 7:11AM

Hey Guys,

A little self promotion.

I know most are interested in HOF autographs, but I updated my NFL non-HOF 3x5's and College Football HOF sections on my website. If you get a chance, check it out. I will add more...but for now - hope you enjoy.

revmoran · February 29, 2008 7:37AM

Paddy Driscoll went out to California to play in the Rose Bowl on Jan 1, 1919 with the Great Lakes Naval Training Station team - and there is a P Driscoll listed in the Statistical History of the Pacific Coast League - see this link link

envoy98 · February 29, 2008 8:27AM

<< 

<< I don't collect this set, but there is a local dealer who has a cut auto of Nagurski and a UD cut auto of Lombardi (cut check put on a card). It's a PSA 8 already. I believe he is asking $550 for the Lombardi and $65 for the Nagurski. The Nagurski is not authenticated but it looks good and I'm sure it's real. Either of these a good buy? >>

As Reese pointed out, the Lombardi is fairly high. There are a lot of Lombardi cut auto'd cards out there...and the going rate is normally b/t $400 to $500. $550 is high but not obnoxiosuly expensive. Are you thinking of buying it?

Rgs,

Greg M. >>

I don't have any use for it quite honestly. I was thinking if the price was fair and someone wanted it, I would get it and sell it to them. He doesn't usually move on his prices unless he's had something for a long time. I know the guy he got the Lombardi from off another board but I don't know what he paid hiim. He got the card about a month ago so it'll be a while before I get to see any real price discount. I don't remember which card it is. I think it's F/X though now that you mention it. It's a black and white on top with a check on the bottom that goes the whole width of the card and all the way to the bottom.

Reese3333 · March 1, 2008 1:54AM

<< Hey Guys,

A little self promotion.

I know most are interested in HOF autographs, but I updated my NFL non-HOF 3x5's and College Football HOF sections on my website. If you get a chance, check it out. I will add more...but for now - hope you enjoy. >>

Jim,

I love the website. I think the Chuck Bednarik 8X10 with the inscription "your next" is awesome! Keep up the good work

tnspro · March 1, 2008 4:28AM

Thanks for the kind words guys. Hopefully it will help show some 'tougher' autographs and people can then compare to other examples they find.

Bednarik is great! Probably the best NFL HOF'er signer.

gregm13 · March 3, 2008 4:11AM

Unfortunately, Bednarik is one of the few remaining HOFers who will sign for free. Berry now charges $25 and Marchetti now charges $15 (donation to the Juvenile Diabetes Foundation).

Rgs,

Greg M.

gregm13 · March 3, 2008 4:15AM

Would anyone else like to participate in the upcoming group submission? If so, please e-mail me at montooth13 at yahoo.com or PM me here.

Rgs,

Greg M.

gregm13 · March 3, 2008 5:33AM

I have nice Paul Brown auto'd 1975 Fleer Immortal Role for $75 dlvd if anyone is interested.

Rgs,

Greg M.

BellagioPokerKing · March 6, 2008 10:31AM

Hello,

I can't believe what just happened, but would Love to hear what you guys think about what I just bought. When you have a minute, look at Ebay # 140211558055. Three item lot. I am stunned.

Rocke

tnspro · March 6, 2008 10:41AM

I saw it. Just didn't feel comfortable with it. Hope it real though. If so, you got it at a nice price.

gregm13 · March 6, 2008 10:56AM

I don't trust that seller. He also had a signed 1957 Topps signed by Norm Van Brocklin which I need for my signed 1957 Topps set. I passed because the seller is shady to say the least.

Rgs,

Greg M.

Reese3333 · March 6, 2008 12:26PM

I was watching it, but couldn't pull the trigger. If it is real, then you really got a great deal. Are you going to get it authenicated?

jradke4 · March 7, 2008 12:17AM

good luck to you on getting it certified. i have no clue as to if its real or not.

revmoran · March 7, 2008 2:12AM

Has anyone ever submitted a book for review? I have both Dan and Art Rooney in books that I believe are authentic but haven't had them checked.

revmoran · March 7, 2008 2:18AM

While I'm posting I'll put this up here, too - what is probably an obscure, but interesting autograph - Ed Thorp who was an early NFL offical - he also was a college offical, most notably at the Rose Bowl where Stanford and Ernie Nevers went up against Notre Dame and the Four Horsemen - his controversial call on a Nevers run resulted in the Notre Dame win. When he died in 1934, the NFL Championship Trophy was named the Ed Thorp Memorial Throphy in his honor - it was first won by the Giants in the "sneakers game" against the Bears.

tnspro · March 7, 2008 5:24AM

I really love checking out old NFL autographs like that Mike. Anyone can find a HOF'er, for the most part anyway. It is those obscure guys who are the real challenge to find.

Keep them coming

Jim

BellagioPokerKing · March 7, 2008 1:35PM

Hello All,

Mike, I want to wholeheartedly agree with Jim. I also LOVE seeing the items that you show. And I am sure that you have only shown the tip of the iceberg. You have a truly amazing collection. As far as the signed Dan Reeves picture. I have never dealt with this person, but I hope he is legit. If you saw his other items he had listed, You saw the Steve Owen he had for sale. I was the underbidder that screwed up and didn't bid enough. But the good thing is, Les Woolff won the Owen. And if Les thinks he is legit. then I'll take my chances. ABSOLUTELY, I am going to have it authenticated. I am going to the www.csashows.com next week in Chantilly, Va. I doubt that I will have it by then. But Jim Spence is coming to Cleveland, Ohio for a big show April 11-12-13. I will submit it then. I don't know if I should also have it slabbed? I have to this point only had 3x5's and checks slabbed. Anyone have an opinion on slabbing a 3x5 photo? Tuffstuff doesn't even have a price listed in their price guide for a signed Reeves photo. I know this is the first one I have ever seen. I know if it passes JSA, I am going to do cartwheels around my house!!!!

Take Care

Rocke

Reese3333 · March 7, 2008 1:56PM

Rocke,

I'm not sure about JSA, but PSA could easily slab that photo. You might also have the option to have them place a sticker on it. I really hope it is real. If not, hopefully the seller will refund you. Good luck!

Reese

Ullr · March 7, 2008 9:08PM

Well I finally updated my set. Over 50% in baseball and football autographs.

Football

Baseball

gregm13 · March 7, 2008 9:48PM

Ullr,

That's great - thanks for sharing your scans!! I love the vintage signed cards...I've been collecting more of those lately. I think the best looking autographs are those signed in ball point or thin sharpie on a cardboard based card (rather than glossy).

By the way, please check your PM.

Greg M.

BellagioPokerKing · March 8, 2008 10:43AM

<< Rocke,

I'm not sure about JSA, but PSA could easily slab that photo. You might also have the option to have them place a sticker on it. I really hope it is real. If not, hopefully the seller will refund you. Good luck!

Reese >>

Reese, If I have it slabbed, I WILL have PSA/DNA do it. And I will have them authenticate it also, so it will be dual-authenticated. The thing is I won't see PSA/DNA until I go to the CSA show in Chantilly, Va. in July. I will see Jim Spence in April in Cleveland. I need to know if it passes authentication BEFORE my time runs out on Ebay for leaving a feedback so I have some leverage, ie: leave a negative feedback, if it DOES NOT pass authentication, so I can hopefully get a refund. I hope that makes sense. As far as slabbing, I was wondering if you guys had an opinion on whether I SHOULD have it slabbed. Slabbing GLA cards, Sports cards, 3x5 cards, etc. is one thing. I just don't remember ever seeing a picture/photograph slabbed. I don't know if it would look kind of dumb. Any thoughts.....

Rocke

Reese3333 · March 8, 2008 12:21PM

<< Reese, If I have it slabbed, I WILL have PSA/DNA do it. And I will have them authenticate it also, so it will be dual-authenticated. The thing is I won't see PSA/DNA until I go to the CSA show in Chantilly, Va. in July. I will see Jim Spence in April in Cleveland. I need to know if it passes authentication BEFORE my time runs out on Ebay for leaving a feedback so I have some leverage, ie: leave a negative feedback, if it DOES NOT pass authentication, so I can hopefully get a refund. I hope that makes sense. As far as slabbing, I was wondering if you guys had an opinion on whether I SHOULD have it slabbed. Slabbing GLA cards, Sports cards, 3x5 cards, etc. is one thing. I just don't remember ever seeing a picture/photograph slabbed. I don't know if it would look kind of dumb. Any thoughts.....

Rocke >>

I would have it slabbed. Here is a photo that was slabbed for me. I imagine your picture is about this size and would fit nicely in the holder. It would also be wise to pay with a credit card. Your credit card company can perform a chargeback and protect you in case you cannot recover a refund. I unfortunately had a similair situation not too long ago, but I was able to get back my money with my credit card company's help. Also, when sending to PSA/DNA I dont believe you need to be a PSA member. I'm not sure if you would be able to get it back in time for James Spence in April, but it may be worth a try.

KLS23 · March 8, 2008 2:01PM

Hey guys,

Saw the thread and had to jump in since I also am working on a HOF autograph set (and any other old-timers that catch my eye). I know this group mostly collects on card auto's, but I thought maybe you would still appreciate a few of my recent additions. The Wistert auto I got back from him TTM today....great signer and really nice man. The Bert Bell is a 1959 NFL players contract. Lastly, are two 8X10s of Charlie "Choo Choo" Justice and Steve Van Buren. If anyone has any leads on a nice and reasonably priced Gene Hickerson or Link Lyman auto, please let me know. Thanks!

Ken
ken_ams@hotmail.com

KLS23 · March 8, 2008 2:15PM

Hello again,

...and just to get back on topic here are a few HOFers. The Perry I got TTM last week for a $15 donation. The Bill George I picked up at the CSA show in Chantilly, VA maybe two years back. The Leemans I got on E-bay. I would like to get some of these PSA/DNA slabbed in the near future.

Ken

tnspro · March 8, 2008 2:17PM

what kind of Hickerson are you looking for ..3x5 or cards?

gregm13 · March 8, 2008 2:18PM

Ken,

Thanks for posting the scans. Although all of us collect autographed cards, we appreciate when people share scans of whatever autographed items they have. Personally, I have signed 8x10's, signed letters, signed 3x5 cards and even a few helmets.

Very sweet - thanks again. I especially like the Justice.

Greg M.

KLS23 · March 8, 2008 2:23PM

Jim,

Pretty open on Hickerson...cards, photo, 3X5's....I would take anything. Just looking for a nice auto to add to my collection. I did end up picking up a Marshall Goldberg 3x5 in January from a dealer, but I wanted to thank you for your offer and assistance on that one. I need to check out your site again...it blew me away the first time I saw it and inspired me to start hunting again for some of those most elusive autographs. Take care.

Ken
ken_ams@hotmail.com

tnspro · March 8, 2008 3:01PM

ok, i have a few 3x5's , if you are interested....there is one on my 3x5 page (all look like that one pretty much)

BellagioPokerKing · March 8, 2008 3:43PM

<< Hello again,

...and just to get back on topic here are a few HOFers. The Perry I got TTM last week for a $15 donation. The Bill George I picked up at the CSA show in Chantilly, VA maybe two years back. The Leemans I got on E-bay. I would like to get some of these PSA/DNA slabbed in the near future.

Ken

>>

Hello Ken, I have a couple of signed Hickerson 8x10's. I live in Canton, Ohio, about 5 minutes from the Hall of Fame. I have met Gene, got him at various signings, events, etc. at least 6-8 different times. Are you going to CSA next week? If so I can bring them with me. This will be my 6th time that I have made the trip to Chantilly. Other than the 4 National's I've been to, Chantilly is my favorite show. Let me know if you are going and I will Email you my cell phone #.

Rocke

Official NFL HOF autograph set thread???

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