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  • goose3
    goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
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    mine should be here tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!
  • nam812
    nam812 Posts: 10,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Local dealer Goose, or internet?
  • HeritageAddict
    HeritageAddict Posts: 3,266
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    Looks like there are auto redemptions this year, I don't remember those last year.
    Cut Auto Cards 4 sale

    My Registry Sets
  • joestalin
    joestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
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    So the originals pull in number order???? Wow, that won't be easy to search or anything!

    Still waiting on scans of the autos and the 59's.

    Kevin
  • TNP777
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    Box #6 was decent. Three chromes (including Beckett & Jeter) Carlos Lee relic. And.......something with a black border. Scans to come.

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  • joestalin
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    OUR FIRST BLACK CHROME...I hope it was a dodger!!

    I'm checking ebay right now....2 autos up BOTH redemptions. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Kevin
  • TNP777
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    << <i>I can't remember having a product live (I don't have mine yet) without knowing the SPs. That being said, my memory isn't what it used to be. Any sense for SPs yet Geordie? >>

    Jason - I don't have a sense yet. I'm halfway through my case, and I've been busting at work. I've been putting every 7th card aside, which is where all the chromes and inserts are located. I'm making an assumption that the vast majority of what's left is a SP, but won't find that out until I'm done busting and sorting (hopefully late tonight).

    I'll put up some scans as soon as I get home (hopefully about 90 minutes from now).

    Geordie

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  • joestalin
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    Geordie

    Unacceptable, pull over now and find the late night kinkos and start scanning!!!!

    Kevin
  • five7teen
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    << <i>

    << <i>I can't remember having a product live (I don't have mine yet) without knowing the SPs. That being said, my memory isn't what it used to be. Any sense for SPs yet Geordie? >>

    Jason - I don't have a sense yet. I'm halfway through my case, and I've been busting at work. I've been putting every 7th card aside, which is where all the chromes and inserts are located. I'm making an assumption that the vast majority of what's left is a SP, but won't find that out until I'm done busting and sorting (hopefully late tonight).

    I'll put up some scans as soon as I get home (hopefully about 90 minutes from now).

    Geordie >>



    You da man tonight Geordie, the most popular guy on the block by a long way. Here's hoping the black refractor you pulled is Kemp, Martin, or one of your other young boys in Blue (since I know it's not Brett Butler)...
  • joestalin
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    Heck I hope the black is Jeter or Pujols, then he can sell it and buy all the Dodgers he wants!

    Kevin
  • TNP777
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    Think bloody sock


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  • prscott933
    prscott933 Posts: 1,976
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    White Whales:
    1996 Select Certified Mirror Gold Ozzie Smith
    2006 Bowman Chrome Orange Refractor Chris Carpenter
  • TZAHL
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    As far as SVU18, I sent him an email the other day through ebay (before he was NARU'd) and filed a dispute. I'll have to give him a call this week. Disappointed but right now I just hope to get my money back.

    Goes to show that you can't go wrong with reputable dealers even though a guy has perfect feedback.
    Trying to complete:
    2000 Bowman Chrome
    2002 Topps Heritage NAP
    2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics
    2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football
  • mudflap02
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    Not a fan of the redemption autos so far, but the chrome checklist looks STRONG. Thanks for posting, Geordie.
  • kmnorton
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    Some early market news for all

    First Cut hits the market

    And boy is it not attractive.

    Think This Person got a Deal?

    IWTDMBII
  • TNP777
    TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭
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    OK, guys - here's some of the bigger hits through 7 boxes:

    Manny's a refractor. First (and only so far) ink was a Giant (!@#$%)
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    Pudge, Ryan & Braun are refractors. Bloody sock boy is the black.
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  • five7teen
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    << <i>Some early market news for all

    First Cut hits the market

    And boy is it not attractive.


    That has to be one of the worst "hits" I've seen. A Spahn 3 x 5 fetches 8 to 10 bucks - combine that with a pretty haphazard (is his name crooked, or is it just me?) framing job, and you're not kidding Kurt, it's a dog. At least they could have found an unruled indez copy of his sig...
  • five7teen
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    Good looking chrome Ichiro there Geordie, very good looking...
  • Josephcb09
    Josephcb09 Posts: 286 ✭✭
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    Geordie,

    Here are the relics I pulled:

    David Ortiz CC jersey
    Ivan Rodriguez CC bat
    Jorge Posada CC bat
    Frank Thomas CC bat
    Shawn Green CC bat
    Garret Anderson CC jersey
    John Smoltz CC jersey
    Torii Hunter CC jersey
    Miguel Cabrera CC jersey
    Roy Oswalt CC jersey
    Frank Robinson FB seat


  • kmnorton
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    Outstanding hit on your Auto, Geordie! That Giants hat looks so distinguished.

    Nice hits on your chromes as well. I'm happy to see some of the biggest names in the set.
    IWTDMBII
  • TNP777
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    << <i>Geordie,

    Here are the relics I pulled:

    David Ortiz CC jersey
    Ivan Rodriguez CC bat
    Jorge Posada CC bat
    Frank Thomas CC bat
    Shawn Green CC bat
    Garret Anderson CC jersey
    John Smoltz CC jersey
    Torii Hunter CC jersey
    Miguel Cabrera CC jersey
    Roy Oswalt CC jersey
    Frank Robinson FB seat >>

    Joe - so far I need 'em all except the Ortiz and Cabrera. Five more boxes to go. How'd you do on the rest of your case? Any more ink?

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  • Josephcb09
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    Out of my 13 boxes I pulled 2 autographs:

    JW Porter red ink 6/59
    Lee Tate blue ink

    1 Black Bordered refractor

    BJ Upton 8/59

    10 chrome refractors

    Dice K
    Chien-Ming Wang
    David Wright
    Carlos Delgado
    Torii Hunter
    Kelvim Escobar
    Magglio Ordonez
    Todd Helton
    Joe Mauer
    Jeff Francis

    38 regular chromes with many notables
  • TNP777
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    << <i>Good looking chrome Ichiro there Geordie, very good looking... >>

    Indeed it is, Jason. I promised a refractor Griffey to Shawn if I pull one. The refractor Mariners are earmarked for you.

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  • mudflap02
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    Sweet pulls, Geordie!

    I put in a lowball offer on that Minoso seat - I think $100 is a pretty fair price for that card.

    And I haven't seen any patches show up yet - I think they were on the sell sheet. A part of me wants to see them surface, but a bigger part of me is hoping that Topps kept patches out of Heritage. One more thing that separates it from most of the other sets out there. Patches look nice and all, but the potential for forgery is pretty tempting, especially for a highly collected set like this.
  • Josephcb09
    Josephcb09 Posts: 286 ✭✭
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    Geordie,

    We need to work something out for the Giants auto
  • TNP777
    TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>Out of my 13 boxes I pulled 2 autographs:

    JW Porter red ink 6/59
    Lee Tate blue ink

    1 Black Bordered refractor

    BJ Upton 8/59

    10 chrome refractors

    Dice K
    Chien-Ming Wang
    David Wright
    Carlos Delgado
    Torii Hunter
    Kelvim Escobar
    Magglio Ordonez
    Todd Helton
    Joe Mauer
    Jeff Francis

    38 regular chromes with many notables >>

    Nice Dice K & Wang refractors. Those'll do well either in trade or sale.

    Did you get any kind of handle on SPs? I thought I was doing well with the extra 7th cards. I found a Pujols there once, but if I'm not mistaken, I also saw a Pujols in spot 5 or 6. I'll bust my remaining boxes, and then get to sorting, I guess.

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  • mudflap02
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    I'm actually employing a different trading strategy this year. I'm trading for refractors first, then chromes, then SPs. I always end up with a TON of extra SPs, and short on both the chrome and ref sets. Should have some goodies FT in the next couple of days, but keep me in mind if anyone pulls any refs they want to trade.
  • TNP777
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    << <i>Sweet pulls, Geordie!

    I put in a lowball offer on that Minoso seat - I think $100 is a pretty fair price for that card.

    And I haven't seen any patches show up yet - I think they were on the sell sheet. A part of me wants to see them surface, but a bigger part of me is hoping that Topps kept patches out of Heritage. One more thing that separates it from most of the other sets out there. Patches look nice and all, but the potential for forgery is pretty tempting, especially for a highly collected set like this. >>

    Jeff - I saw a couple of seats go for $45 - Kurt bought one of them. Are we sure the Minoso seats are going to be as tough as the regular relic, though? I didn't see group odds on the seat relics on the bottom of the box.

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  • mudflap02
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    The Minoso in question is a dual seat relic /10.
  • TNP777
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    Box 8 yields three chrome (Rollins, Smoltz, Kinsler), 1 refractor (Bannister), NAP Arod & Howard (NAPs always seem to be the toughest set, don't they?) & 1 seat relic (Frank Robinson).

    edit: forgot the buyback, which broke the number streak. This one was #234 Chuck Tanner. Not unhappy with that one.

    Box 9 yields four chrome (ARod, Cain, Miggy Cabrera, Bannister), NAP Ortiz & Wright), Dmitri Young relic, buyback Moe Thacker (2nd straight Cub) which is seriously OC.

    Box 10 yields three chrome (Ethier (first Dodger chrome!), Upton & Verlander), 1 refractor (Isringhausen), Aramis Ramirez Relic & buyback Cal McLish



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  • TNP777
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    << <i>The Minoso in question is a dual seat relic /10. >>

    oooooooh, nice!

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  • nam812
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    Does anyone remember when Wal Mart and Target got their retail last year? Was equal to the release date, or a little while after?
  • TNP777
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    Box 11 was a bit of mixed blessing. This is the 2nd box of the case that did not yield the promised relic or auto. I will be sending some UPC codes and wrappers to Topps it appears. I did pull another buyback (Del Rice), three chromes, the normal coupla NAPs, Flashbacks & the like, and this:

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    My first nice Dodger pull in Heritage history! Pretty nice-looking card!

    aaaaannnnddd done. Last box is ripped - Miguel Tejada relic, Dontrelle Willis refractor, three chromes (Rios, Vlad Guerrero, Papi), all the other standard stuff. Got my first damaged card in the third to last pack, which looks like it might be a Moises Alou SP.

    All in all, a fun rip. Two blacks ain't bad, especially when it's one of my guys. A total of 10 relics (8 CC & 2 FB), one blue ink, 7 refractors, 35 chrome (all different), a whole mess of black backs, and Lord knows how many SPs. Can't wait for the SP list to post. Gonna start sorting now, starting with the black backs. Oh, for the inserts, it looks like a case should get those done, unlike last year. I only ended up missing one insert, which is NAP13. I did end up with six dupe NAPs, so it'll be easy to kill that off.


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  • TNP777
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    I believe it was reported that the black back set was 88 cards - it is actually 110. I only had one of 6 or 7 of them, at least dupes of everything else.

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  • TNP777
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    OK, finally got everything sorted out into 100s. OK, this list is now updated from #170 on up. The following cards only appeared once (a few of them not at all) in my case. The list below contains cards that only appeared twice, so some of those may be SPs, too.

    40 Tim Hudson
    129 Luke Hochevar
    155 Johnny Damon
    175 Jeff Weaver
    176 Preston Wilson
    196 Jose Valverde
    210 J.J. Putz
    211 Mike Sweeney
    231 Kevin Gregg
    285 Chad Billingsley
    315 Jacque Jones
    322 Richie Sexson
    360 Maggio Ordonez
    381 Casey Blake
    409 Jon Lester
    426 Kyle Lohse
    431 Jeff Salazar
    432 Yadier Molina
    433 Adam Wainwright
    434 Scott Kazmir
    436 Ryan Freel
    438 Kazuo Matsui
    441 Emil Brown
    443 Jake Peavy
    445 Kason Gabbard
    447 Felipe Lopez
    449 Willy Taveras
    450 Chipper Jones
    453 Braden Looper
    454 Brandon Inge
    455 Brian Giles
    456 Corey Patterson
    457 Los Angeles Dodgers
    463 Tony Pena
    464 Marcus Giles
    465 Augie Ojeda
    466 Micah Owings
    467 Ryan Theriot
    468 Shawn Green
    469 Frank Thomas
    470 Lenny Dinardo
    471 Jose Bautista
    472 Manny Corpas
    475 Jose Contreras
    477 Julio Lugo
    479 Tony LaRussa - All Star
    482 Justin Morneau - All Star
    483 Orlando Hudson - All Star
    484 Brian Roberts - All Star
    485 Miguel Cabrera - All Star
    486 Mike Lowell - All Star
    488 Carlos Guillen - All Star
    489 Ken Griffey Jr. - All Star
    490 Vladimir Guerrero - All Star
    491 Alfonso Soriano - All Star
    492 Ichiro - All Star
    494 Magglio Ordonez - All Star
    496 Victor Martinez - All Star
    497 Brad Penny - All Star
    498 Josh Beckett - All Star
    499 Cole Hamels - All Star
    500 Justin Verlander - All Star

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    SP possibles?? Only one dupe of these:
    2 Placido Polanco
    3 Eric Byrnes
    11 Luke Scott
    12 Curt Schilling
    16 Ichiro
    18 Dontrelle Willis
    24 Felix Hernandez
    41 Kelvim Escobar
    42 Jason Jennings
    52 Omar Vizquel
    57 Brad Lidge
    58 Paul LoDuca
    67 Rich Hill
    69 San Francisco Giants
    71 Trevor Hoffman
    78 Josh Hamilton
    79 Mark Loretta
    81 Torii Hunter
    84 Brad Penny
    90 Hideki Matsui
    92 Phil Hughes
    98 Jon Garland
    116 Wladimir Balentien
    127 Alberto Gonzalez
    130 Chin-Lung Hu
    174 Mike Cameron
    177 Robinson Tejeda
    178 Adam Lind
    180 Jorge Posada
    187 Carlos Silva
    198 Jerry Owens
    224 David Wright
    262 Hitter's Foes (Dodgers)
    265 Aaron Rowand
    266 Matt Morris
    267 Xavier Nady
    301 Ronnie Belliard
    308 Daisuke Matsuzaka
    321 Randy Winn
    323 Juan Encarnacion
    324 Rick Ankiel
    330 Ty Wigginton
    332 Howie Kendrick
    334 Matt Holliday
    336 Ian Kinsler
    337 Lyle Overbay
    347 Chuck James
    427 Doug Davis
    428 Pitt Hill Aces
    429 Miguel Batista
    430 Chien-Ming Wang
    435 Adam Dunn
    437 Jhonny Peralta
    442 Gary Sheffield
    444 Scott Rolen
    446 Aaron Hill
    448 Dan Uggla
    350 Jimmy Rollins
    451 Josh Anderson
    452 Melvin's Outfield Trio
    458 Sean Casey
    459 Pedro Feliz
    461 Chone Figgins
    462 Kyle Kendrick
    473 Kevin Millwood
    474 Kevin Youkilis
    480 Jim Leyland - All Star
    481 Derrek Lee - All Star
    487 J.J. Hardy - All Star
    493 Matt Holiday - All Star
    495 Brian McCann - All Star

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  • Pharber
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    Geordie,
    If Collectors Universe had a Hall of Fame, you would be the first inductee. Fantastic job. We owe you. Thanks so much for giving us our first real Heritage fix of the season. It was an exciting night.

    Rising with the sun on the East Coast,

    Paul

  • TNP777
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    Back hurts. Eyes blurry. Jammin' to Rush's "Moving Picturs". Having a blast.


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  • nam812
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    Great work Geordie. 73 out of 75 "potential" SPs.

    Were the 110 black backs from 1 to 110, or randomly numbered?
  • TNP777
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    Nick - they're random. All appear below #372, with the exception of #415.

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  • nam812
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    Thanks Geordie. Also, when you say black back do you mean the back of the card, or the front or the card that encircles the player?
  • zep33
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    I wonder if I should purchase any of these baseball cards
  • TNP777
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    Nick, here ya go:
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  • TNP777
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    Bathroom break, and time for a fresh beer. A nice 4 a.m. beer.

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  • nam812
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    Thanks Geordie. I should have realized that because in 1959 Topps numbered the high series from 507 to 572 with only black backs.

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  • BigRedMachine
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    I just slept 7 hours and come back and Geordie's pulling an all-nighter for us!! image

    Great work, sounds like it was fun.

    Here's hoping we're all joining you soon!!

    shawn
  • TNP777
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    I'll tell you one thing. If the numbers weren't big this year, I'd have gotten 7 hours of sleep myself. I like the big numbers!

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  • Pharber
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    I can't understand the value of the buyback cards. An old, ungrade '59 -- that you can purchase on EBay for pennies? I'd rather just have the 3-player panels and a checklist so I could put together an entire set. Or is it just the same three-player on the panel?

  • rrpb76
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    Geordie Great job.... I almost hate to ask, but did you notice any lightback, dark backs in the cards ? I understand the '59s had that feature
    Regards,
    Charlie G
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    Paul Didn't you post the sequence and features of the '58s last year which matched up to the 2007 Heritage ? Do you have the same list for the 59's
    Good hunting on your case (s)
    Regards,
    Charlie G
  • TNP777
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    Charlie! Good to see you again, sir!

    Thankfully, no - there are not lightback variations this year. What, a 655-card master set ain't big enough for ya?

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