1984 Donruss Baseball - the unofficial but legal thread

BugOnTheRug · April 8, 2006 2:04PM

Arny,
Yep, it's here to stay and updated my set to include the scan. I'll have to check out the latest SMR as I wasn't aware of the price increase. For as long as I've been involved with the 84D's the Mattingly 10 has always sold above and sometimes way above SMR.

BugOnTheRug · April 8, 2006 2:09PM

Just checked and it looks like a $75 or $100 increase. That's good but if you had 5 of them and set them all at a BIN of $575 each they'd all be snapped up in a heartbeat IMO.

ArnyVee · April 8, 2006 9:58PM

Even during the 'slow' period on '84 Donruss cards, the Mattingly 10 didn't drop under $500 or so. The new SMR shows an increase up to $575, but these things have been hitting $700-800 pretty consistently lately.

Great job on grabbing that one Bill!

Any new news from the rest of the '84 Donruss gang?

gregmo32 · April 9, 2006 7:52AM

I just listed a PSA 10 Ryne Sandberg on Ebay at .99 with no reserve.
Also listed about 100 other oddball cards that will help PSA Master Set collectors under user ID gregmo32.
gregmo32@aol.com

ColleSystem · April 10, 2006 8:11AM

I just recieved 2 factory sealed sets today (paid $85 each). I have opened a few bricks from each set. Each Mattingly has an extremely minor diamond cut, one OC Joe Carter. The Other Joe Carter has 3 sharp corners and one rounded corner from the cello wrap. Does anyone know what PSAs standard deduction is for the "cello rounded" corner?

Also got a creased ripken, each Nolan Ryan has some print lines.

Oh well, I got them for a decent price. I am pretty sure that there are some 10s in there.

Scott

BugOnTheRug · April 10, 2006 9:22AM

Scott,
I'd be very interested in the remainder of the set if you're looking to sell - ie. the commons and the diamond kings.
Pull all the star cards you want and I'll buy the rest of the set if you're interested.
Bill

ColleSystem · April 10, 2006 11:48PM

Bill:

Here is my plan for the cards. I was thinking about pulling the prospective 10s and low POP 9s for a PSA grading special. I'll be submitting them with the prospectives of a wax box that I just opened. I was then thinking about putting together one or two near mint raw sets with the remainder cards. Let me know what you are interested in.

I haven't finished opening all of the factory bricks yet, but so far I am seeing that there is a greater chance of razor sharp corners in the wax box, even though many of the wax box cards get damaged. It would be interesting to see the percentages, but so far it looks like a wax box may end up yielding slightly higher percentage of 10s. Again, this is just my initial observation.

I cracked some 85 donruss factory bricks. These cards are in fantastic shape, centering and edging are crisp like an apple. The only catch is the slightest bit of cello rounding.

thanks,
Scott

digicat · April 11, 2006 7:47AM

I'm not sure what the "standard deduction" is, but I submitted a 1985 Donruss Puckett last year and got back a 9. It's only flaw was those cello corners you need a loupe to see.

BugOnTheRug · April 12, 2006 9:35AM

....... so I go ahead and spend the big coinage for the Mattingly 10. Then look what happens............

LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 31585148 1956 TOPPS 31 HANK AARON N/A 7
2 31585149 1968 TOPPS 247 REDS ROOKIES J.BENCH/R.TOMPKINS 7
3 31585150 1971 TOPPS 100 PETE ROSE N/A 7
4 31585151 1984 DONRUSS 22 EDDIE MURRAY DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 10
5 31585152 1984 DONRUSS 248 DON MATTINGLY N/A 9
6 31585153 1984 DONRUSS 248 DON MATTINGLY N/A 10

Date Received: 04/04/2006
Date of Grades Posted: 04/12/2006
Date Shipped: 04/12/2006

However, I'm not complaining!

ArnyVee · April 12, 2006 9:46AM

Bill, that's great! Now, you can keep the better of the two and donate the 2nd one to the ArnyVee Foundation for homeless 10s!

Seriously, could we make a trade for that badboy?

BugOnTheRug · April 12, 2006 11:04AM

BugOnTheRug · April 12, 2006 11:05AM

BugOnTheRug · April 12, 2006 11:06AM

Arny,
Not sure what we could pull off, but let me get the bad boy home first and then we'll take a look.

BugOnTheRug · April 12, 2006 3:49PM

Collesystem - Scott,

Please email me at: bdavidson@prodigy.net about your 84D cards. Please turn on your PM (your private CU email function) by going to your 'profile' and clicking 'allow private messages'.

Thanks, Bill

ColleSystem · April 13, 2006 9:58AM

Bill:

I edited my profile for PM

Scott

Bighurt4 · April 22, 2006 1:19PM

This is just sad.

PSA What?

Brent

ColleSystem · April 22, 2006 3:59PM

Its amazing that people waste money with garbage listings like that.

-Scott

BugOnTheRug · April 22, 2006 4:27PM

I sent an email to the seller asking for the cert number and why the card is not in the holder. We'll see what his reply says - or doesn't say.

Brent - got your message and will get back to you tomorrow.

Here's some more eye candy. Both were submissions........

Fabfrank · April 23, 2006 1:23AM

Wow! That 8 looks just as good as the 10. 10's tend to be arbitrary 9's, but that 8 looks too sharp. Do you see any reason why it didn't grade higher?

BugOnTheRug · April 23, 2006 2:08AM

Frank,
The 8 has a very minute bottom LH corner fray that barely visible under lighted glare, and is noticable using a loop. It is properly graded but what a shame.

alnavman · April 24, 2006 6:03AM

Hi guys, how's everyone been lately. Waiting for the May specials to pop...hope it's either a 72 to present or a 60-71 special. I have some nice 75 Topps I picked up and want to break open a few of the packs from the 84 Donruss box I bought. Been saving the pennies!! It's been over two months since I sent anything in for grading and I am starting to get antsy

tennesseebanker · April 25, 2006 4:21AM

Anyone ever open any 84 Donruss Racks ? These things are hard to find so I bought a few. I will be sending in any gradeables from the bust, I should get them before weeks end, so keep an eye out over on the Sports card and Mem Forum for a 84 Rack bust. I have opened a lot of unopened stuff and I just love racks because they seem to produce the best quality card for grading, Wish me luck !

ralstonpurina · April 25, 2006 5:40AM

I've never opened 1984 racks, butI'd love to get my hands on some racks from 84 and 85.. Good luck with yours.

BugOnTheRug · May 9, 2006 12:09PM

Wow.........this thread was on the 5th page. Time to bring it up top.

I've got this Mattingly 10 for sale. I bought this for $800 and then shortly thereafter received a 10 on my last submission and that card is now in my registry set.

These normally sell for between $800 and 900, so shoot me an earnest offer and we'll see if we can deal.

tennesseebanker · May 9, 2006 12:42PM

Got some 84 donruss back in my latest submission today from the racks I busted a few weeks back. Whadda ya think? All will be listed on E-bay when I get them in.

26 40466178 1984 DONRUSS B LIVING LEGENDS J.BENCH/C.YASTRZEMSKI 8
27 40466179 1984 DONRUSS 10 DAVE RIGHETTI DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 10
28 40466180 1984 DONRUSS 14 BOB HORNER DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 10
29 40466181 1984 DONRUSS 203 BILL SCHERRER N/A 10
30 40466182 1984 DONRUSS 242 TOM BRUNANSKY N/A 8
31 40466183 1984 DONRUSS 95 ONIX CONCEPCION N/A 10
32 40466184 1984 DONRUSS 122 GREG LUZINSKI N/A 10
33 40466185 1984 DONRUSS 232 RAY KNIGHT N/A 8
34 40466186 1984 DONRUSS 252 CESAR GERONIMO N/A 9
35 40466187 1984 DONRUSS 256 ODELL JONES N/A 9
36 40466188 1984 DONRUSS 53 GEORGE BRETT N/A 9
37 40466189 1984 DONRUSS 316 AL WILLIAMS N/A 10
38 40466190 1984 DONRUSS 313 SPIKE OWEN N/A 9
38 40466191 1984 DONRUSS 313 SPIKE OWEN N/A 8

ralstonpurina · May 9, 2006 12:51PM

I think most of us are waiting for our may special submissions. I have about 75 at PSA right now, our your second Mattingly 10 might have a new home with me. I'll share when the grades pop.

BugOnTheRug · May 10, 2006 9:22AM

The Mattingly is sold.

ralstonpurina · May 11, 2006 2:04PM

30 new ones on the way, 3 8's, 20 9's, and 7 10's. Not bad this time, pretty happy with how it turned out (much better than my 85 donruss stuff). No 10's worth mentioning, all commons, no low pops - best one is Tim Raines or Frank Viola. 23.3% 10s on the 84's, and an average of 9.13, just better than my 9.04 of my set. 8's are just filler for now, so that'll drag me up.

Same submissions hammered me on 85 Donruss, was about the same as the 84D on the 84 Fleer update, and gave me a 1 of 1 10 of both Clemens and Ryan on an odd ball 92 McDonalds, and a couple extra 9s of the same.

I'll share some scans when they show up.

thesplendidsplinter · May 11, 2006 2:30PM

Guys, I don't collect the set. I collect the 67 set. The 67 set has no threads like this.
But this is one of my favorite threads. All you guys sharing stories & the multiple pages of the thread is just awesome. And the scans of cards are just phenomenal. Have not thought of this set in years. But because of the passion & beautiful scans you have shared, it has made me pull out my raw set. These are great baseball cards!! IMHO the last great baseball set.
Maybe by the time I start it, all those Moreno, Bumbry & Chambliss' will have better populations!

My favorite thing about those Gossage & Eckersley cards (incredible baseball cards) is they show off the Puma's worn in those days. Reggie in '77 wore them when he hit the 5 HR's in the WS. So they became very fashionable from then on. Eck looks so great in them as well as Brett, Rice, Guidry & so on. Great memories of watching baseball in that time period. Playing jr college ball in California, 83 & 84, my uniform would not have been complete without my pair of Puma's & high baseball stockings.

Thanks for sharing the passion

Ted

BugOnTheRug · May 11, 2006 3:16PM

Ted,
Thanks for sharing. I collected 1971 to 1974 as a kid (my mom kept all the cards and I still have the 71's) and really love those years, but the 84D set is stunning for it's design and raw product is readily available. No need to tell you that submittable '67's aren't falling out of closets all over the country. (BTW, 1967 is by far my favority 60's issue and somehow I ended up with over 300 7th series hi-numbers when I rediscovered my childhood collection in 1983 - all are gone with the exception of a few).

I've been heavily involved in the 1984 issue/registry set 3 years now and I don't think I'll ever get tired of looking at these. The deeper I delve into the set, the more hooked I get. You're correct about the Goose. If I had to pick one card to display and one only, #396 Goose gets the nod.

BugOnTheRug · May 12, 2006 8:07AM

BugOnTheRug · May 12, 2006 8:07AM

SUNTZ · May 12, 2006 8:20AM

Is Mike Fitzergeld that tough to find in PSA 9 ??

ralstonpurina · May 12, 2006 8:39AM

Yup, it is. I believe the 10 is 1 of 1, and a 9 might also be low pop .

ralstonpurina · May 12, 2006 8:58AM

Some of my stuff came today, here's the good stuff (also a bunch of 9s came)

I tried to show them here, but couldn't figure it out. They are attached.

ralstonpurina · May 12, 2006 9:01AM

two more 84D 10s should come on monday

alnavman · May 13, 2006 12:46AM

All right, All right....it's time to jump back in.......I'm going to add to this thread sslloowwwllyyyy to make the anticipation that much greater!!!!

Check back later......the wife wants me to go buy some toilet seats......and she won't even let me buy the one's with the soft cushions!!!

alnavman · May 13, 2006 3:37AM

Ahh!!! the plot thickens.......cellophane has been removed from the box. By the way this box was purchased from Baseball Card Exchange...believe I mentioned this earlier in this thread......

PS: Wife's happy, she has new toilet seats...and they even got installed!!

alnavman · May 13, 2006 5:16AM

Here's the top four packs........getting ready to open them......

alnavman · May 13, 2006 6:10AM

Where is everyone?? I feel like I'm monopolizing the thread.......well I ended up opening eight packs so far. Need help on the Darling card displayed....I think it is definitely submittable....also is the Simpson to off center for submission??? I need him for my set.

Fabfrank · May 13, 2006 6:13AM

Even though I'm not doing this set, it is my favorite 80's baseball set. I love following this thread. You are not alone alnavman

ralstonpurina · May 13, 2006 6:25AM

We're here, waiting for you to open them!

The Darling and Simpson are off top to bottom (thin on top). Maybe 9s, but most likely 8. They both look like they have decent eye appeal though

alnavman · May 13, 2006 6:52AM

Ok, I've opened 16 packs so far and gotten 35 cards that I think are submittable for my collection. I had some others that would be worthy of submission but I already have them. Worst thing I found in the packs was an OC Mattingly rookie.....glad I already have that card. One card I had to pitch, it was mangled in the pack...but overall not bad, the typical OC ...got an Ashby OC, Schmidt DK OC also a couple Carews OC. If anyone has interest in the remaining cards from the 16 packs send me a PM and offer.......the lot will include the OC Mattingly al.

ralstonpurina · May 13, 2006 6:56AM

I hate getting the Mattingly's OC. I just back two from a submission, hoping for the best. I got an 9OC and an 8.

BugOnTheRug · May 13, 2006 8:36AM

Al,
The Simpson and Darling should 9 if the corners are ok. The centering is off (typical T/B on Simpson) but not enough to warrant an 8, unless the grader is having a bad hair day.

Good luck on the rest. I've never seen a Chris Chambliss nicely centered regardless of condition - it'd be great if you'd get one.

Bill

ralstonpurina · May 13, 2006 9:40AM

I'm absolutely bored, and my set benefited. Entered in all my new submission stuff, and found a box that must have been lost in the move last year. Brought my set up to 45%, and a grade average of 9.04. Still lots of 8's that'll be upgraded, so I should go up a little after another two subs.

After that I put scans of all my 84 donruss on the PSA Reg. A total waste of time, but I have alot of it right now, my foot still won't be ready to walk or drive for another 6 weeks min. I'm outta unopened stuff to open, and outta money for new stuff. Check out my scans
http://www.psacard.com/set_registry/display_cards.chtml?rsetid=56650&alltime=no&rank=7&tied=0&requesttimeout=9999

If I can't be number 1, maybe I can have the most scans

ralstonpurina · May 13, 2006 9:47AM

Also found some doubles, and leftovers from upgrades. Anyone wanna trade here's the list. Check my set for what I need.

PSA8 - 41 carter, 42, 59 Ozzie, 68 Strawberry X2, 95, 101, 108, 227, 233, 234, 241 X2, 265, 329, 424, 425, 431, 643
PSA9 - 279, 299 Raines, 304, 308, 313, 338, 407, 531

Will trade for anything I don't have, not looking to sell but i might

Jeffm359@comcast.net

ArnyVee · May 13, 2006 9:59PM

I actually picked up about a half dozen PSA 9s that I needed for my set from Mortys. He's got some decent ones out there in his eBay store. Check 'em out guys!

alnavman · May 13, 2006 11:18PM

Hey Arny.thanks for the info on Morty's....I also picked up about a dozen or so PSA 9's that I needed.....al.

softparade · May 15, 2006 7:16AM

Steve Hart still has wax boxes up on his site. I wonder how many he has ??

1984 Donruss Baseball - the unofficial but legal thread

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