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  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
    Interesting read. I've never been a fan of wood-grained card borders/designs so '87T isn't on my list. Neither is '85T, but my critera centers only on photography and card design. The 85 Olympic sub set cool, but so are the 84D diamond kings and rated rookies.

    I'll bet even a #1-5 list of the 80's sets from collectors here will result in many varied answers. Of the 80's, I really like 83T, 86-87D's, 89UD, 85F, 87F and of course my #1 is 84D. I'd probably pick 1983T as #2 and them from there it would be very tough to pick the next 3.
  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
  • 1- 84 donruss
    2-81 topps - based on design only, not checklist
    3-85 donruss - two high end HOF rookies, original design
    4-83 topps - reintroduced two photos on front, three high end rookies, loaded with stars (base/normal card, super vet, and all star cards)
    5-84 Ralston Purina - for sick, strange reason
    Always buying 1984 Ralston Purina PSA 9s and 10s I NEED 19,21, and 29!!!
  • alnavmanalnavman Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    1 - 81 Topps - for some goofy reason I liked the hats
    2 - 84 Donruss - one of my all time favorites
    3 - 87 Donruss - I like the black bordered cards and I thought the rookie selection was nice
    4 - 83 Topps - loved the circles on the cards
    5 - 86 Fleer - Just thought these were nice looking cards..

    You know this would probably make another great thread if it hasn't already been done sometime in the past.....

    al.
  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    1. '84 Donruss - Need I say more?
    2. '87 Fleer/'87 Donruss - Like the selection of players and basic designs
    3. '85 Donruss - Tough black borders and nice cards of Clemens and Puckett
    4. '83 Topps - Always liked this set
    5. '87 Topps - Liked the player selection and I was actually a fan of the wood bordered look
    Honorable mention - I really like the '80 cards because it was the year that I really started to collect baseball cards a little more seriously
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  • Bighurt4Bighurt4 Posts: 384
    Thanks for the link, what a great stroll down memory lane. My favorite from the '85T review, "I already know I got a Dan Quisenberry All-Star and an Orel Hershisher with a gigantic old-as-time gum stain on the back, which is actually quite aesthetically pleasing…"

    Before qualifiers, gum stains were a beautiful result of picking up that waxy feeling slice of Heaven. You knew you had 1 out 15 cards that would be flawed before you got started. I prayed it wouldn't be the Wade Boggs or Ryne Sandberg. I loved Boggs and my main trading partner would have gotten a nosejob if he thought the procedure was named after the Cub second baseman. One of my main regrets from that period, besides my lack of Clemens rookies, is losing my 85 Topps All Wax Cleveland Indian Team set.

    My list:
    #1- 1986 Topps, I do love those black borders
    #2- 1984 Donruss, we all know why
    #3- 1983 Topps
    #4- 1987 Donruss
    #5- 1987 Fleer

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  • rvcrvc Posts: 559 ✭✭
    1. 84 donruss
    2. 80 topps
    3. 81 fleer
    4.83 topps
    5. 81 donruss
    Bob
  • 81 fleer and donruss, and no topps!!!?!?!?!?! I just can't hang with the bad photos and all the errors. I do actually like the designs of both. I remember being a kid, during the error craze. The newspaper ran a story on the errors, and my brother and I thought they'd be worth big bucks, and talked our mom into believing the same. She sent us to the 7-11 with a twenty, and we bought a bunch of packs. Pretty cool memories.
    Always buying 1984 Ralston Purina PSA 9s and 10s I NEED 19,21, and 29!!!
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    I have to disagree with this guy...87 topps best set?

    I'd say:

    85 donruss
    84 donruss
    87 fleer
    84 fleer
    82 topps (this set is really growing on me lately)
    81 topps

  • BarkusDBarkusD Posts: 624
    I just listed a bunch of high grade 84 Donruss on ebay. You can view my auctions by clicking the link below. All auctions have a $.99 opening bid. Here's a little sample:

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  • alnavmanalnavman Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    great looking cards. I'll have to check out what you have available in your auctions.
  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
    That's a sweet 177 Oliver - may bid on that one.
  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    Anything new going on with the '84s?
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  • I'm waiting on a group that I sent in for my set, with a few low pops and tough ones.
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  • I picked up a factory set pretty cheap, and might bust it tonight. I'll post the good ones.
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  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    Sounds good! Please keep an eye out for the ones that I need! image

    8 - D.Dravecky DK
    129 - B.Blyleven
    170 - R.Manning
    187 - G.Minton
    209 - B.Ramos
    217 - M.Armstrong
    224 - C.Bando
    228 - J.Lowenstein
    230 - D.Decinces
    234 - J.Bonilla
    238 - K.Hernandez
    435 - E.Nunez
    437 - E.Whitt
    442 - W.Brusstar
    456 - E.Cabell
    471 - M.Wilcox
    472 - T.Martinez
    480 - J.Youngblood
    481 - J.Slaton
    482 - M.Fitzgerald
    535 - B.Horner
    537 - C.Chambliss
    544 - D.Darwin
    550 - T.Hume
    554 - R.Staub
    557 - D.Henderson
    558 - L.Whitehouse
    575 - M.Trillo
    582 - D.Spillner
    590 - B.Anderson
    597 - L.Sanchez
    605 - A.Griffin

    .....any help would be appreciated. image
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    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
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  • I opened the first couple bricks(first two 1-110, and the mattingly brick) and only pulled about three good cards. The depression was killing me, so I put it up for a few days. I'll make sure to check your list, if I don't need it you can have em
    Always buying 1984 Ralston Purina PSA 9s and 10s I NEED 19,21, and 29!!!
  • Lothar52Lothar52 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭
    that sucks ralston...how much did you get the factory set?? what was wrong with the cards centering or corners?? is it true they are small in the factory set then in the packs?
  • $70 for the set, so pretty good. I've sold raw sets on ebay for not much less, so I think it was pretty good deal. I'd show a few scans, but for some reason I can't get them posted. The box and packaging within was clean, but diffently the worst factory set I've busted (i've busted 4 84's, and 4 or 5 85s.) The dread rounded corners are very pronounced, centering is disgusting across the board, and even the centered ones just don't have good eye appeal. Color just isn't as nice as other 84 factory sets I've busted. I've only opened three of the cellos, so I still have some more to go. I just got frustrated after the first two, and the mattingly brick, and gave up.
    Always buying 1984 Ralston Purina PSA 9s and 10s I NEED 19,21, and 29!!!
  • And yes, the factory set cards are usually a little short on the edges.
    Always buying 1984 Ralston Purina PSA 9s and 10s I NEED 19,21, and 29!!!
  • alnavmanalnavman Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    Stay the course....maybe you will luck out and bust some gems out of the other bricks.....check out the bricks with some of the low pop cards, maybe you';ll get lucky there......good luck!!!
  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
    some of those bricks are like gold if they contain certain mint and centered cards..........................
  • My first factory set was like that. It seemed like every card was a minimum very solid nine. I'm still submitting cards from that set. I got an 84 fleer update set from Kruk cards last year that was the same, so I guess I have gotten lucky, just not lately.
    Always buying 1984 Ralston Purina PSA 9s and 10s I NEED 19,21, and 29!!!
  • ok....so Donruss sends me a 2001 Anniversary Autograph of a 1984 Don Mattingly...1 out of 25.

    It's slabbed in a BECKETT holder with 7.5 (Centering 7..Corners 9..Edges 9..Surface 8)..

    1st off...what's up with that?? Why would Donruss still have one of these....why would they have Beckett grade it....you'd THINK they could have MINT copies signed!!

    BLAHHHHHHHHH ..it's raining and this is supposed to make up for an error they had back in November!!

    And they also sent a Randy Johnson 89 Donruss card from the same set...auto'd out of 25...same thing...BECKETT 7.5...

    Scans to follow...

    Any idea of price?? The cards from that set numbered out of 250 are listed at decent $$$$..but all others are N/A...

    Any help??
  • I don't know how donruss does it, but UD and topps actually buys the cards on the open market for these types of issues. So the cards they get aren't screaming mint.
    Always buying 1984 Ralston Purina PSA 9s and 10s I NEED 19,21, and 29!!!
  • ATTENTION all card producers....you NEED to buy from me in the future!! Better cards..better prices....lol

    Mattingly and Johnson Scans
  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    I guess they really didn't want to spend the bucks to get a PSA 9 of each or something.
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  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    Hey guys ! I listed some gems last nite some of you may need as well as a few 9's and 8's in my E-bay store. Thanks for looking


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  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    Good luck with those TNBanker! Nice lookin' cards there. image
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    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
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  • Latest sub popped this morning, scans to come soon

    15 06420046 1984 DONRUSS 9 AL OLIVER DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 10
    16 06420047 1984 DONRUSS 130 BUD BLACK N/A 9
    17 06420048 1984 DONRUSS 240 TONY BERNAZARD N/A 9
    18 06420049 1984 DONRUSS 455 ROB PICCIOLO N/A 9
    19 06420050 1984 DONRUSS 470 KEN LANDREAUX N/A 10
    20 06420051 1984 DONRUSS 481 JIM SLATON N/A 10
    21 06420052 1984 DONRUSS 492 RICK CERONE N/A 9
    22 06420053 1984 DONRUSS 574 GORMAN THOMAS N/A 10


    The Oliver is my first DK self submit 10, the Landreaux and Thomas are tough. The Slaton is the first 10 graded, and maybe for sale. Haven't decided yet

    Always buying 1984 Ralston Purina PSA 9s and 10s I NEED 19,21, and 29!!!
  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
    PM me on the Slaton.........I'd be VERY interested.
  • Hey bug, I will. I will only sell it if I get a 9 or better on another Slaton I have at PSA right now, or some crazy offer comes along. Grade should pop soon.
    Always buying 1984 Ralston Purina PSA 9s and 10s I NEED 19,21, and 29!!!
  • BkritzBkritz Posts: 1,093 ✭✭
    I have a few psa 10s that are available if someone needs them. Also some psa 9s

    Just PM with an offer. I will also trade for psa 7 or 8 50s or 60s HOFers, or psa 9s from the 70s- baseball only.

    130005393474 1984 DONRUSS JOE SIMPSON # 496 PSA 10 GEM MINT

    140005936464 1984 DONRUSS EDDIE MILNER # 365 PSA 10 GEM MINT REDS

    130005392617 1984 DONRUSS LARRY HERNDON # 349 PSA 10 GEM MINT TIGERS

    140005936014 1984 DONRUSS MARK HUISMANN # 339 PSA 10 GEM MINT ROYALS

    140005935813 1984 DONRUSS ROB WILFONG # 329 PSA 10 GEM MINT ANGELS

    140005935630 1984 DONRUSS ORLANDO MERCADO # 318 PSA 10 GEM MINT

    130005391911 1984 DONRUSS RON DAVIS # 269 PSA 10 GEM MINT TWINS

    140005934759 1984 DONRUSS GARY WARD # 192 PSA 10 GEM MINT TWINS

    140005934589 1984 DONRUSS PAT PUTNAM # 145 PSA 10 GEM MINT MARINERS


    Here are the psa 9s - 542, 516, 317, 293, 252, 242, 156.

    Just PM!

    B
  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
    pm sent
  • alnavmanalnavman Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    If any are left after the "BUG" infestation please post the numbers......
  • BkritzBkritz Posts: 1,093 ✭✭
    The 9s are all still available. The 10s have been taken by the 'bug".
  • Round two of my last minute special submissions. Not great, compared to last. The last one I had %50 10s, this time only one. But the one is another Slaton. I singlehandedly broke the pop report on that one, two tens and they are both mine. Probably broke my chances of getting some good coin on the first Slaton.

    ALSO, I included the 1985 Donruss in the list, maybe help answering a question alot of us had/have. This card screamed and was flawless, besides the dreaded "factory set" corners. I only submitted it to see what would happen. So as far as I'm concerned, PSA does downgrade for the factory set corners.
    15 1984 DONRUSS 44 SID FERNANDEZ N/A 9
    16 1984 DONRUSS 206 MIKE LaCOSS N/A 9
    17 1984 DONRUSS 247 MARTY CASTILLO N/A 9
    18 1984 DONRUSS 461 DANNY JACKSON N/A 9
    19 1984 DONRUSS 479 LEE LACY N/A 9
    20 1984 DONRUSS 481 JIM SLATON N/A 10
    21 1984 DONRUSS 569 JEFF RUSSELL N/A 9
    22 1985 DONRUSS 208 CARLTON FISK N/A 6


    Date Received: 07/10/2006
    Date of Grades Posted: 07/21/2006
    Date Shipped: No Date Specified




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  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
    Great job on the Slatons. That is a tough card to find centered. I'm still interested in one...............let me know.
  • alnavmanalnavman Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    BKRITZ.....PM sent.
  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    I'd be interested in a Slaton...any Slaton! image
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  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
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    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
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    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
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  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
    What's the deal on this page turning thing? I couldn't see arny's post until I posted, which is the 3rd one on the page now. Kinda hokey.....
  • Ya, I noticed that also.
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  • Eye candy, just got them back. The second batch should show up monday or tuesday.
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  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    So, what's the deal with the Slaton(s)? Do you have more than one to sell? I'll give first dibs to Bug since he asked first. But, I need a PSA 9 or higher for my set.
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    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
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  • I have two, but one is for my set. Bug hit up first.

    those are the only two I got.
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  • I'm sure Bug will work something out for his nine.
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  • alnavmanalnavman Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    I think we need a steel cage so we can hold tournaments for the Slaton card......maybe we can start one for each of the hard to find 84 Donruss cards.....just think of the publicity it would get.....not sure where all the collectors are for the set but I'm in Ohio, appears Arny is in Florida and Bug is on the West Coast....we can hold hold the steel cage matches in St. Louis.....

    Well, enough for my sense of humor this Sunday morning.......

    Good luck on the Slaton.......

    al.
  • Just curious how many of you would have interest in a rack case?? I may have a line on one. The guy doesn't really wanna sell it, but we maybe able to work something out. I've known the guy for years, he has a small stash of unopened 80s stuff but I didn't know he had 84 donruss stuff untill recently. I don't have the cash to pick it up myself (wish I did), I am likely being forced to medical retire this year, so I have to slow down my spending.

    Price wise what would be good? I have been eyeballing an 85 case in an ebay shop for months, asking 599. I thought about 900?
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  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
    I would love to get my hands on an unsealed rack case, but the most important issue is how it has been handled. Even an average-handled case will probably produce dinged corners in at least some of the boxes/packs. Since most of the cards will be too O/C to submit anyway, if you add the dings to the mix what is your money buying you? My experiences with newer unsealed cases is you will still find dinged corners even though the case has shows minimum handling.

    Seeing it in person and giving the case an honest assessment is the way to go before plunking down coin. I think $900 give or take is a fair price. Kruk cards still has their wax case for $3K and is a joke in my opinion. There's obvious damage to it (partial missing flap) and it looks real beat.

    Regardless, I'd be in the mix or buy it outright if it's a clean case. Keep us posted.
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