1984 Donruss Baseball - the unofficial but legal thread

BugOnTheRug · July 2, 2006 2:13AM

Interesting read. I've never been a fan of wood-grained card borders/designs so '87T isn't on my list. Neither is '85T, but my critera centers only on photography and card design. The 85 Olympic sub set cool, but so are the 84D diamond kings and rated rookies.

I'll bet even a #1-5 list of the 80's sets from collectors here will result in many varied answers. Of the 80's, I really like 83T, 86-87D's, 89UD, 85F, 87F and of course my #1 is 84D. I'd probably pick 1983T as #2 and them from there it would be very tough to pick the next 3.

BugOnTheRug · July 2, 2006 2:13AM

ralstonpurina · July 2, 2006 2:40AM

1- 84 donruss
2-81 topps - based on design only, not checklist
3-85 donruss - two high end HOF rookies, original design
4-83 topps - reintroduced two photos on front, three high end rookies, loaded with stars (base/normal card, super vet, and all star cards)
5-84 Ralston Purina - for sick, strange reason

alnavman · July 2, 2006 2:56AM

1 - 81 Topps - for some goofy reason I liked the hats
2 - 84 Donruss - one of my all time favorites
3 - 87 Donruss - I like the black bordered cards and I thought the rookie selection was nice
4 - 83 Topps - loved the circles on the cards
5 - 86 Fleer - Just thought these were nice looking cards..

You know this would probably make another great thread if it hasn't already been done sometime in the past.....

al.

ArnyVee · July 2, 2006 3:06AM

1. '84 Donruss - Need I say more?
2. '87 Fleer/'87 Donruss - Like the selection of players and basic designs
3. '85 Donruss - Tough black borders and nice cards of Clemens and Puckett
4. '83 Topps - Always liked this set
5. '87 Topps - Liked the player selection and I was actually a fan of the wood bordered look
Honorable mention - I really like the '80 cards because it was the year that I really started to collect baseball cards a little more seriously

Bighurt4 · July 2, 2006 5:04AM

Thanks for the link, what a great stroll down memory lane. My favorite from the '85T review, "I already know I got a Dan Quisenberry All-Star and an Orel Hershisher with a gigantic old-as-time gum stain on the back, which is actually quite aesthetically pleasing…"

Before qualifiers, gum stains were a beautiful result of picking up that waxy feeling slice of Heaven. You knew you had 1 out 15 cards that would be flawed before you got started. I prayed it wouldn't be the Wade Boggs or Ryne Sandberg. I loved Boggs and my main trading partner would have gotten a nosejob if he thought the procedure was named after the Cub second baseman. One of my main regrets from that period, besides my lack of Clemens rookies, is losing my 85 Topps All Wax Cleveland Indian Team set.

My list:
#1- 1986 Topps, I do love those black borders
#2- 1984 Donruss, we all know why
#3- 1983 Topps
#4- 1987 Donruss
#5- 1987 Fleer

Brent

rvc · July 2, 2006 9:30AM

1. 84 donruss
2. 80 topps
3. 81 fleer
4.83 topps
5. 81 donruss

ralstonpurina · July 2, 2006 10:19AM

81 fleer and donruss, and no topps!!!?!?!?!?! I just can't hang with the bad photos and all the errors. I do actually like the designs of both. I remember being a kid, during the error craze. The newspaper ran a story on the errors, and my brother and I thought they'd be worth big bucks, and talked our mom into believing the same. She sent us to the 7-11 with a twenty, and we bought a bunch of packs. Pretty cool memories.

Axtell · July 2, 2006 3:59PM

I have to disagree with this guy...87 topps best set?

I'd say:

85 donruss
84 donruss
87 fleer
84 fleer
82 topps (this set is really growing on me lately)
81 topps

BarkusD · July 2, 2006 8:58PM

I just listed a bunch of high grade 84 Donruss on ebay. You can view my auctions by clicking the link below. All auctions have a $.99 opening bid. Here's a little sample:

alnavman · July 3, 2006 6:13AM

great looking cards. I'll have to check out what you have available in your auctions.

BugOnTheRug · July 3, 2006 6:24AM

That's a sweet 177 Oliver - may bid on that one.

ArnyVee · July 7, 2006 5:58AM

Anything new going on with the '84s?

ralstonpurina · July 7, 2006 11:25AM

I'm waiting on a group that I sent in for my set, with a few low pops and tough ones.

ralstonpurina · July 8, 2006 6:17AM

I picked up a factory set pretty cheap, and might bust it tonight. I'll post the good ones.

ArnyVee · July 8, 2006 7:50AM

Sounds good! Please keep an eye out for the ones that I need!

8 - D.Dravecky DK
129 - B.Blyleven
170 - R.Manning
187 - G.Minton
209 - B.Ramos
217 - M.Armstrong
224 - C.Bando
228 - J.Lowenstein
230 - D.Decinces
234 - J.Bonilla
238 - K.Hernandez
435 - E.Nunez
437 - E.Whitt
442 - W.Brusstar
456 - E.Cabell
471 - M.Wilcox
472 - T.Martinez
480 - J.Youngblood
481 - J.Slaton
482 - M.Fitzgerald
535 - B.Horner
537 - C.Chambliss
544 - D.Darwin
550 - T.Hume
554 - R.Staub
557 - D.Henderson
558 - L.Whitehouse
575 - M.Trillo
582 - D.Spillner
590 - B.Anderson
597 - L.Sanchez
605 - A.Griffin

.....any help would be appreciated.

ralstonpurina · July 8, 2006 8:33AM

I opened the first couple bricks(first two 1-110, and the mattingly brick) and only pulled about three good cards. The depression was killing me, so I put it up for a few days. I'll make sure to check your list, if I don't need it you can have em

Lothar52 · July 8, 2006 11:23PM

that sucks ralston...how much did you get the factory set?? what was wrong with the cards centering or corners?? is it true they are small in the factory set then in the packs?

ralstonpurina · July 9, 2006 3:00AM

$70 for the set, so pretty good. I've sold raw sets on ebay for not much less, so I think it was pretty good deal. I'd show a few scans, but for some reason I can't get them posted. The box and packaging within was clean, but diffently the worst factory set I've busted (i've busted 4 84's, and 4 or 5 85s.) The dread rounded corners are very pronounced, centering is disgusting across the board, and even the centered ones just don't have good eye appeal. Color just isn't as nice as other 84 factory sets I've busted. I've only opened three of the cellos, so I still have some more to go. I just got frustrated after the first two, and the mattingly brick, and gave up.

ralstonpurina · July 9, 2006 3:01AM

And yes, the factory set cards are usually a little short on the edges.

alnavman · July 10, 2006 8:44AM

Stay the course....maybe you will luck out and bust some gems out of the other bricks.....check out the bricks with some of the low pop cards, maybe you';ll get lucky there......good luck!!!

BugOnTheRug · July 11, 2006 3:28AM

some of those bricks are like gold if they contain certain mint and centered cards..........................

ralstonpurina · July 11, 2006 1:30PM

My first factory set was like that. It seemed like every card was a minimum very solid nine. I'm still submitting cards from that set. I got an 84 fleer update set from Kruk cards last year that was the same, so I guess I have gotten lucky, just not lately.

5STAT · July 12, 2006 4:07AM

ok....so Donruss sends me a 2001 Anniversary Autograph of a 1984 Don Mattingly...1 out of 25.

It's slabbed in a BECKETT holder with 7.5 (Centering 7..Corners 9..Edges 9..Surface 8)..

1st off...what's up with that?? Why would Donruss still have one of these....why would they have Beckett grade it....you'd THINK they could have MINT copies signed!!

BLAHHHHHHHHH ..it's raining and this is supposed to make up for an error they had back in November!!

And they also sent a Randy Johnson 89 Donruss card from the same set...auto'd out of 25...same thing...BECKETT 7.5...

Scans to follow...

Any idea of price?? The cards from that set numbered out of 250 are listed at decent $$$$..but all others are N/A...

Any help??

ralstonpurina · July 12, 2006 12:30PM

I don't know how donruss does it, but UD and topps actually buys the cards on the open market for these types of issues. So the cards they get aren't screaming mint.

5STAT · July 12, 2006 1:05PM

ATTENTION all card producers....you NEED to buy from me in the future!! Better cards..better prices....lol

Mattingly and Johnson Scans

ArnyVee · July 13, 2006 5:55AM

I guess they really didn't want to spend the bucks to get a PSA 9 of each or something.

tennesseebanker · July 16, 2006 6:01AM

Hey guys ! I listed some gems last nite some of you may need as well as a few 9's and 8's in my E-bay store. Thanks for looking

auctions

ArnyVee · July 16, 2006 9:53PM

Good luck with those TNBanker! Nice lookin' cards there.

ralstonpurina · July 19, 2006 3:12AM

Latest sub popped this morning, scans to come soon

15 06420046 1984 DONRUSS 9 AL OLIVER DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 10
16 06420047 1984 DONRUSS 130 BUD BLACK N/A 9
17 06420048 1984 DONRUSS 240 TONY BERNAZARD N/A 9
18 06420049 1984 DONRUSS 455 ROB PICCIOLO N/A 9
19 06420050 1984 DONRUSS 470 KEN LANDREAUX N/A 10
20 06420051 1984 DONRUSS 481 JIM SLATON N/A 10
21 06420052 1984 DONRUSS 492 RICK CERONE N/A 9
22 06420053 1984 DONRUSS 574 GORMAN THOMAS N/A 10

The Oliver is my first DK self submit 10, the Landreaux and Thomas are tough. The Slaton is the first 10 graded, and maybe for sale. Haven't decided yet

BugOnTheRug · July 19, 2006 3:16AM

PM me on the Slaton.........I'd be VERY interested.

ralstonpurina · July 19, 2006 3:28AM

Hey bug, I will. I will only sell it if I get a 9 or better on another Slaton I have at PSA right now, or some crazy offer comes along. Grade should pop soon.

Bkritz · July 19, 2006 6:11AM

I have a few psa 10s that are available if someone needs them. Also some psa 9s

Just PM with an offer. I will also trade for psa 7 or 8 50s or 60s HOFers, or psa 9s from the 70s- baseball only.

130005393474 1984 DONRUSS JOE SIMPSON # 496 PSA 10 GEM MINT

140005936464 1984 DONRUSS EDDIE MILNER # 365 PSA 10 GEM MINT REDS

130005392617 1984 DONRUSS LARRY HERNDON # 349 PSA 10 GEM MINT TIGERS

140005936014 1984 DONRUSS MARK HUISMANN # 339 PSA 10 GEM MINT ROYALS

140005935813 1984 DONRUSS ROB WILFONG # 329 PSA 10 GEM MINT ANGELS

140005935630 1984 DONRUSS ORLANDO MERCADO # 318 PSA 10 GEM MINT

130005391911 1984 DONRUSS RON DAVIS # 269 PSA 10 GEM MINT TWINS

140005934759 1984 DONRUSS GARY WARD # 192 PSA 10 GEM MINT TWINS

140005934589 1984 DONRUSS PAT PUTNAM # 145 PSA 10 GEM MINT MARINERS

Here are the psa 9s - 542, 516, 317, 293, 252, 242, 156.

Just PM!

B

BugOnTheRug · July 19, 2006 6:22AM

pm sent

alnavman · July 19, 2006 9:34AM

If any are left after the "BUG" infestation please post the numbers......

Bkritz · July 19, 2006 10:30PM

The 9s are all still available. The 10s have been taken by the 'bug".

ralstonpurina · July 21, 2006 3:04AM

Round two of my last minute special submissions. Not great, compared to last. The last one I had %50 10s, this time only one. But the one is another Slaton. I singlehandedly broke the pop report on that one, two tens and they are both mine. Probably broke my chances of getting some good coin on the first Slaton.

ALSO, I included the 1985 Donruss in the list, maybe help answering a question alot of us had/have. This card screamed and was flawless, besides the dreaded "factory set" corners. I only submitted it to see what would happen. So as far as I'm concerned, PSA does downgrade for the factory set corners.
15 1984 DONRUSS 44 SID FERNANDEZ N/A 9
16 1984 DONRUSS 206 MIKE LaCOSS N/A 9
17 1984 DONRUSS 247 MARTY CASTILLO N/A 9
18 1984 DONRUSS 461 DANNY JACKSON N/A 9
19 1984 DONRUSS 479 LEE LACY N/A 9
20 1984 DONRUSS 481 JIM SLATON N/A 10
21 1984 DONRUSS 569 JEFF RUSSELL N/A 9
22 1985 DONRUSS 208 CARLTON FISK N/A 6

Date Received: 07/10/2006
Date of Grades Posted: 07/21/2006
Date Shipped: No Date Specified

BugOnTheRug · July 21, 2006 3:07AM

Great job on the Slatons. That is a tough card to find centered. I'm still interested in one...............let me know.

alnavman · July 21, 2006 5:43AM

BKRITZ.....PM sent.

ArnyVee · July 21, 2006 5:43AM

I'd be interested in a Slaton...any Slaton!

ArnyVee · July 21, 2006 5:44AM

Page turn

BugOnTheRug · July 21, 2006 12:27PM

What's the deal on this page turning thing? I couldn't see arny's post until I posted, which is the 3rd one on the page now. Kinda hokey.....

ralstonpurina · July 21, 2006 10:59PM

Ya, I noticed that also.

ralstonpurina · July 22, 2006 12:25PM

Eye candy, just got them back. The second batch should show up monday or tuesday.

ArnyVee · July 22, 2006 9:03PM

So, what's the deal with the Slaton(s)? Do you have more than one to sell? I'll give first dibs to Bug since he asked first. But, I need a PSA 9 or higher for my set.

ralstonpurina · July 22, 2006 10:34PM

I have two, but one is for my set. Bug hit up first.

those are the only two I got.

ralstonpurina · July 22, 2006 10:35PM

I'm sure Bug will work something out for his nine.

alnavman · July 22, 2006 11:46PM

I think we need a steel cage so we can hold tournaments for the Slaton card......maybe we can start one for each of the hard to find 84 Donruss cards.....just think of the publicity it would get.....not sure where all the collectors are for the set but I'm in Ohio, appears Arny is in Florida and Bug is on the West Coast....we can hold hold the steel cage matches in St. Louis.....

Well, enough for my sense of humor this Sunday morning.......

Good luck on the Slaton.......

al.

ralstonpurina · July 23, 2006 6:07AM

Just curious how many of you would have interest in a rack case?? I may have a line on one. The guy doesn't really wanna sell it, but we maybe able to work something out. I've known the guy for years, he has a small stash of unopened 80s stuff but I didn't know he had 84 donruss stuff untill recently. I don't have the cash to pick it up myself (wish I did), I am likely being forced to medical retire this year, so I have to slow down my spending.

Price wise what would be good? I have been eyeballing an 85 case in an ebay shop for months, asking 599. I thought about 900?

BugOnTheRug · July 23, 2006 7:18AM

I would love to get my hands on an unsealed rack case, but the most important issue is how it has been handled. Even an average-handled case will probably produce dinged corners in at least some of the boxes/packs. Since most of the cards will be too O/C to submit anyway, if you add the dings to the mix what is your money buying you? My experiences with newer unsealed cases is you will still find dinged corners even though the case has shows minimum handling.

Seeing it in person and giving the case an honest assessment is the way to go before plunking down coin. I think $900 give or take is a fair price. Kruk cards still has their wax case for $3K and is a joke in my opinion. There's obvious damage to it (partial missing flap) and it looks real beat.

Regardless, I'd be in the mix or buy it outright if it's a clean case. Keep us posted.

1984 Donruss Baseball - the unofficial but legal thread

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