@Copperindian said:
Years ago, I decided to take on the near impossible “Indian Head Cent Complete Variety Registry Set” consisting of some 185(!) coins. At the time, I owned over half of them & realized it was a massive undertaking. My muse was a collector that had amassed all but 1 of the coins. The one he was missing was impossible for him as I owned the only example (1871 S-2). In acquiring additions to the set along the way, I bought a few of the examples in his now retired set. Yesterday, I bought a really tough one he still had:
This is the top & only RD example of the very elusive 1883 S-11. The last photo clearly shows the variety characteristic.
I still have 5 left to complete the set; yesterday’s pickup was the first addition in over a year. I have my doubts I’ll ever finish it, but yesterday’s pickup gives me a little hope.
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Jonathan - I’m going to up Terry’s guess to a 65BN. I don’t see much in the way of marks. Curious about the clash mark above the ONE? It seems very light & only shows partially, I think. Could be the pic.
But, if not, this would only be the second one known without it! My inquiring mind would like to know!
Thanks,
Ken
Still can’t stay away from RD’s, but this one’s special:
The 1865 Plain 5 S-2 variety is extremely rare; this is the only RD example known & originally from the Dr. Tom Fore collection. There are multiple features: 1) remnants of all 4 digits of the date in the denticles below; 2) a clash mark running through the upper area of the headdress feathers (it actually begins in front of the first feather); 3) a jagged swordfish looking clash mark in front of the neck.
Interestingly enough, I also own a 65RB example in a EDS that doesn’t have the “swordfish” like clash mark in front of the neck:
@Copperindian said:
Still can’t stay away from RD’s, but this one’s special:
The 1865 Plain 5 S-2 variety is extremely rare; this is the only RD example known & originally from the Dr. Tom Fore collection. There are multiple features: 1) remnants of all 4 digits of the date in the denticles below; 2) a clash mark running through the upper area of the headdress feathers (it actually begins in front of the first feather); 3) a jagged swordfish looking clash mark in front of the neck.
Interestingly enough, I also own a 65RB example in a EDS that doesn’t have the “swordfish” like clash mark in front of the neck:
I can’t recall ever posting this coin here previously. For the longest time, it was the only MS example known. Today, there are 7 - 3 BN, 3 RB (this coin is tied for top pop with one other) & 1RD @ MS63.
The last pic is a closeup that shows the dramatic reverse doubling. It likely is under appreciated as it appears on the rev; were it on the obv, it just might be on par with the popular 1873 Doubled Liberty variety.
IMO, this coin is fairly graded with great detail & strike, no problems & nice eye appeal.
@Copperindian said:
I can’t recall ever posting this coin here previously. For the longest time, it was the only MS example known. Today, there are 7 - 3 BN, 3 RB (this coin is tied for top pop with one other) & 1RD @ MS63.
The last pic is a closeup that shows the dramatic reverse doubling. It likely is under appreciated as it appears on the rev; we’re it on the obv, it just might be on par with the popular 1873 Doubled Liberty variety.
IMO, this coin is fairly graded with great detail & strike, no problems & nice eye appeal.
It’s not in Cherrypicker’s, but that doesn’t mean it’s not interesting to me. The S-10 is a 2* variety exhibiting remnants of the “190” digits in the denticles under the date. Graded 64BN.
These are available, period. But I’ve become somewhat of a connoisseur & own a number of these (although this is my first CACG).
A good many of these have problems, such as: poor strikes, heavy clashing, spotting, etc. I’ll buy “nice” ones like this example that have none of those issues.
Beautiful pics and coins! Still love IHC's although I don't collect them anymore.
The 1877 RB reminds me of the one I used to have. I liked it more than many of the red IHC's out there - the one exception being Blays 66R.
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Recently picked this up to kick off a 20th century type set I’m starting.
Yeah, I know 1900 is still the nineteenth century, but the registry starts at 1900.
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I always thought that 1859 was the first year for Indian Head Cents? Apparently I was wrong, as I just bought this Indian Head Cent dated 1858! It was straight graded by PCGS, and it has a CAC sticker too!
Yes, it’s a Pattern, lol. But I think it’s so cool to have a natural looking Indian Head Cent dated 1858!
CAC and also an Eagle Eye Photo Seal. There are a total of 50 of these 1858 Pattern J-211 Indian Head Cents graded PR64 (29 by PCGS and 21 by NGC). Of those 50, only 8 have a CAC sticker!
The obverse is similar to the issued Indian Cent, but dated 1858. The reverse is similar to the issued 1860 cent reverse, except there is no shield between the ends of the laurel wreath. This is the centered date, broad bust point variant, thus the Pollock-262.
Sea-green, reddish, and blue tints make an appearance, making for a lovely original skin. Fields flash with healthy proof brilliance, while the central devices are lightly frosted.
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I think it was just you & I in the final hour. I inched up to my tipping point & decided to add $100 to that. I recently started the 12 piece 1C pattern short set in Registry & needed this one. I also bid & won the 206 (at my max bid), which I also needed. 4 to go…..
I think it was just you & I in the final hour. I inched up to my tipping point & decided to add $100 to that. I recently started the 12 piece 1C pattern short set in Registry & needed this one. I also bid & won the 206 (at my max bid), which I also needed. 4 to go…..
When I sell mine, in no more than 4+ years, I'll make a note to offer this to you first.
By the way, I only entered the bidding with a bit more than 3 minutes to go. As such, it was you and someone else for most of that last hour.
Steve
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Very nice pickup!!!
This pattern set has really become popular recently! The prices have definitely inched upwards in the last few years! I have mine completed with a mix of NGC/PCGS with all Photosealed, and a number CACed. Six of the 11 patterns (1858 Proof is part of the set, but is not a pattern) have CAM designation. My J-211 is PF66CAM PS and is the finest known I believe although it is in an NGC holder.
Steve, congrats, this coin looks amazing! Im done upgrading these for now unless something spectacular comes up!
Often the 1886 IHC Variety 2 is softly struck with what looks like a melted appearance. This “average” BN is sharply struck. Not only that, graded 65BN, the pop is 7/0. With the green bean, it’s one of the best available in BN.
Often the 1886 IHC Variety 2 is softly struck with what looks like a melted appearance. This “average” BN is sharply struck. Not only that, graded 65BN, the pop is 7/0. With the green bean, it’s one of the best available in BN.
Another winner Ken. From your closeups that BN, is right on the edge of RB. Nicely struck too. Congrats! Zack. Am I seeing that coin in CAC with 3 graded in 65BN and none higher in BN?
@jfriedm56: thanks Zack & nice catch too! I just picked up the 7/0 & figured not all of those were CAC. And, you’re right about the RD traces; while they’re not enough for the coin to be RB, they add to the eye appeal.
Ken
Thought I would post this one I have that demonstrates what I mean above. While it’s double stickered, it’s not well struck. This happens more often with the variety 2 than the variety 1 for the 1886 IHC’s. It looks a bit like it’s melting under the hot sun!
@Copperindian said:
Thought I would post this one I have that demonstrates what I mean above. While it’s double stickered, it’s not well struck. This happens more often with the variety 2 than the variety 1 for the 1886 IHC’s. It looks a bit like it’s melting under the hot sun!
Acquired this 1886 type 1 last year that is a MS65 RB CAC and is a bit mushy on the strike, but still quite a nice looking coin. I can certainly live with that.
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@redraider: that’s a BEAUTY of a 1877 Jonathan! My kind of coin (& yours)! CONGRATS on a very special pickup!
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Two NEWPS:
66+RD CAC
66RD CAC & top graded S-8 variety
I actually swapped two toners to get these!
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Very nice!
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Superb! MS64 Brown?
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@redraider:
Jonathan - I’m going to up Terry’s guess to a 65BN. I don’t see much in the way of marks. Curious about the clash mark above the ONE? It seems very light & only shows partially, I think. Could be the pic.
But, if not, this would only be the second one known without it! My inquiring mind would like to know!
Thanks,
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Just enough to get a RB.....MS65RB. Coin does have a little more red than the photos show.
MS63RB 8/8 S-26
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Still can’t stay away from RD’s, but this one’s special:
The 1865 Plain 5 S-2 variety is extremely rare; this is the only RD example known & originally from the Dr. Tom Fore collection. There are multiple features: 1) remnants of all 4 digits of the date in the denticles below; 2) a clash mark running through the upper area of the headdress feathers (it actually begins in front of the first feather); 3) a jagged swordfish looking clash mark in front of the neck.
Interestingly enough, I also own a 65RB example in a EDS that doesn’t have the “swordfish” like clash mark in front of the neck:
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Those are both very cool!
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That is awesome!
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Thanks Terry. In hand it has unbelievable eye appeal.
I can’t recall ever posting this coin here previously. For the longest time, it was the only MS example known. Today, there are 7 - 3 BN, 3 RB (this coin is tied for top pop with one other) & 1RD @ MS63.
The last pic is a closeup that shows the dramatic reverse doubling. It likely is under appreciated as it appears on the rev; were it on the obv, it just might be on par with the popular 1873 Doubled Liberty variety.
IMO, this coin is fairly graded with great detail & strike, no problems & nice eye appeal.
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Very nice example!
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Yet another “obscure” variety:
It’s not in Cherrypicker’s, but that doesn’t mean it’s not interesting to me. The S-10 is a 2* variety exhibiting remnants of the “190” digits in the denticles under the date. Graded 64BN.
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BIG Indian - really big:
There are only 5 1867 IHC 66RD’s! None higher; this one’s special.
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WOW
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Ken, Fantastic!
Common one year type:
These are available, period. But I’ve become somewhat of a connoisseur & own a number of these (although this is my first CACG).
A good many of these have problems, such as: poor strikes, heavy clashing, spotting, etc. I’ll buy “nice” ones like this example that have none of those issues.
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1866 Repunched date.
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Beautiful pics and coins! Still love IHC's although I don't collect them anymore.
The 1877 RB reminds me of the one I used to have. I liked it more than many of the red IHC's out there - the one exception being Blays 66R.
Recently picked this up to kick off a 20th century type set I’m starting.
Yeah, I know 1900 is still the nineteenth century, but the registry starts at 1900.
Edited to add better photo.
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Beautiful coins! I never tire of seeing these!
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It’s been a real long time since I bought an IHC.
I always thought that 1859 was the first year for Indian Head Cents? Apparently I was wrong, as I just bought this Indian Head Cent dated 1858! It was straight graded by PCGS, and it has a CAC sticker too!
Yes, it’s a Pattern, lol. But I think it’s so cool to have a natural looking Indian Head Cent dated 1858!
CAC and also an Eagle Eye Photo Seal. There are a total of 50 of these 1858 Pattern J-211 Indian Head Cents graded PR64 (29 by PCGS and 21 by NGC). Of those 50, only 8 have a CAC sticker!
The obverse is similar to the issued Indian Cent, but dated 1858. The reverse is similar to the issued 1860 cent reverse, except there is no shield between the ends of the laurel wreath. This is the centered date, broad bust point variant, thus the Pollock-262.
Sea-green, reddish, and blue tints make an appearance, making for a lovely original skin. Fields flash with healthy proof brilliance, while the central devices are lightly frosted.
Steve
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@winesteven: congrats - I was the underbidder!
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Ken - So how much money did you cost me, lol?
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I think it was just you & I in the final hour. I inched up to my tipping point & decided to add $100 to that. I recently started the 12 piece 1C pattern short set in Registry & needed this one. I also bid & won the 206 (at my max bid), which I also needed. 4 to go…..
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When I sell mine, in no more than 4+ years, I'll make a note to offer this to you first.
By the way, I only entered the bidding with a bit more than 3 minutes to go. As such, it was you and someone else for most of that last hour.
Steve
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@winesteven: it looks like I only cost you that last $100. Thanks for considering me, but I’ll have completed the set in that time frame.
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Very nice pickup!!!
This pattern set has really become popular recently! The prices have definitely inched upwards in the last few years! I have mine completed with a mix of NGC/PCGS with all Photosealed, and a number CACed. Six of the 11 patterns (1858 Proof is part of the set, but is not a pattern) have CAM designation. My J-211 is PF66CAM PS and is the finest known I believe although it is in an NGC holder.
Steve, congrats, this coin looks amazing! Im done upgrading these for now unless something spectacular comes up!
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PCGS 64BN: all it’s “cracked up” to be, this S-10c is a later die state. This actually adds to its value.
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Surprise!
Often the 1886 IHC Variety 2 is softly struck with what looks like a melted appearance. This “average” BN is sharply struck. Not only that, graded 65BN, the pop is 7/0. With the green bean, it’s one of the best available in BN.
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Another winner Ken. From your closeups that BN, is right on the edge of RB. Nicely struck too. Congrats! Zack. Am I seeing that coin in CAC with 3 graded in 65BN and none higher in BN?
@jfriedm56: thanks Zack & nice catch too! I just picked up the 7/0 & figured not all of those were CAC. And, you’re right about the RD traces; while they’re not enough for the coin to be RB, they add to the eye appeal.
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Thought I would post this one I have that demonstrates what I mean above. While it’s double stickered, it’s not well struck. This happens more often with the variety 2 than the variety 1 for the 1886 IHC’s. It looks a bit like it’s melting under the hot sun!
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Made from raw. Sent in more than once to try to get MS67. CAC of course. Very deep in luster.
Here are pics from my macro set-up:
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@sedulous: that’s a BEAUTY!
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WOW!
Acquired this 1886 type 1 last year that is a MS65 RB CAC and is a bit mushy on the strike, but still quite a nice looking coin. I can certainly live with that.
I’m going to make a special thread showing it, but I will also put it in here since it’s relevant…
Just got this yesterday:
I mainly picked it up for the old holder…
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