PS to my 3b post from yesterday. I thought the EDS (top pic) was a 3a die pair. I wanted to ensure I still had a complete set of the 1869/69 die pairs, so I bought this one yesterday:
It’s already out for designation. I included the descriptive literature from EERC. The tv is way too dark so I didn’t want to post it.
@TomB said:
Somehow, I managed to be on these boards for the last year without ever opening this thread up. I know, I know, how could that happen? Now that I have spent the last hour looking at these incredible IHCs and giving myself carpel tunnel from hitting the "Like" button over and over, I have come to the conclusion that @asheland can either pay for my medical expenses to carpel tunnel surgery or, instead, can simply mail me that incredibly attractive PCGS VF25 1877 that has been posted in this thread.
@TomB said:
I guess I get to put up post numbers 298 and 299 in this thread. This coin is not nearly as rare as myriad others in this thread and is not nearly as high grade as so many others and is definitely not nearly as valuable as coin after coin after coin that has been shared, but I like it. For the IHC series I really like RD coins to be in older holders because I believe they are likely going to be more stable overall, and much less likely to show a fingerprint in the future, than newer holdered coins.
100% agree with RED in the old holders!
A fatty with a gold sticker!? That is remarkable! I would be so proud to own that one!
@TomB said:
I guess I get to put up post numbers 298 and 299 in this thread. This coin is not nearly as rare as myriad others in this thread and is not nearly as high grade as so many others and is definitely not nearly as valuable as coin after coin after coin that has been shared, but I like it. For the IHC series I really like RD coins to be in older holders because I believe they are likely going to be more stable overall, and much less likely to show a fingerprint in the future, than newer holdered coins.
100% agree with RED in the old holders!
A fatty with a gold sticker!? That is remarkable! I would be so proud to own that one!
This is an interesting one....It was originally purchased in an NGC holder as a PF64BN (Bronze).
It was cracked and sent to PCGS, where it graded PF65 (copper Nickel).
Metallurgic analysis says it is bronze, but on a thick planchet. That should make it a J-356a Pattern and should be graded with a color designation. Looks absolutely Cameo in hand too!
@redraider: great coin! Curious about the metallurgical test: did you do that before or after going to PCGS? Are you going to attempt to designate it as a J-356a? Love these coins with distinct obv/rev contrast!
@Copperindian: Metlaergic testing was done in the NGC slab and was not accurate. It was cracked out and tested again and tested as bronze. It then went to PCGS (with the metallurgic testing results) where the testing results were ignored and went into a Copper-Nickel holder.
Here is the testing results. Interesting to see more than trace amount of silver and gold in the result.
The mint did a lot of funky stuff in 1864 in testing new metal compositions, so who knows what this one really is.
@redraider said: @Copperindian: Metlaergic testing was done in the NGC slab and was not accurate. It was cracked out and tested again and tested as bronze. It then went to PCGS (with the metallurgic testing results) where the testing results were ignored and went into a Copper-Nickel holder.
Here is the testing results. Interesting to see more than trace amount of silver and gold in the result.
The mint did a lot of funky stuff in 1864 in testing new metal compositions, so who knows what this one really is.
Graded MS 64BN. This is the very rare S-4 variety; few are known & this is a pop 2/0. The Big Registry Set? It’s the IHC Complete Variety Set with no less than 185(!) examples. I have 8 remaining after this find & it’s been months since I added one! Do I expect to finish it? No, not really. A handful that remain are very obscure & seldom seen, let alone available.
What made acquiring this coin even more difficult was the “road trip” it took over the past year. It started here:
It was a 62BN with the variety not designated. And yes, the TV’s are actually of the same coin. It was submitted for review/upgrade as the grade seemed low with the result above. The S-4 designation was also added.
One of 8 sharing the top pop. Really nice eye appeal & remarkable contrast between the two sides.
I find collecting toned proof IHC's can be way more challenging than RD IHC's. Way too many levels of RD that are only color. Color is truly special. But I do admire your dedication to all varieties which requires true intent. A toned proof set of IHC's would be like a walk in the park for you, and very gratifying as well.
(slab shot taken before the attribution was added).
The 1888 S-27 is #178 of the 185 needed for the IHC Complete Variety Set. It’s an absolute beast & I’ve occasionally had regrets about ever trying to achieve it. But, with “only” 7 to go, it’s become possible. I’ll have another one to add soon: a 1903 S-7 in PCGS 62BN. The seller is traveling, but I’m all too glad to work within his timetable. Then, I’ll have 6 remaining. It will be a tough 6 for sure!
I don’t recall ever posting this one. It’s not designated (& won’t be as long as I own it), but it’s the very tough 1867/67. The S-1 sticker designates the variety. Hard to tell from the woodgrain, but it’s close to full RD.
Edit: I neglected to add this, which nicely shows the overdate. It’s so pronounced, it can be seen with the naked eye:
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@WiscKau: nice! Is this one raw?
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@TomB: glad you caught up with “us”! Nice 1908!
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PS to my 3b post from yesterday. I thought the EDS (top pic) was a 3a die pair. I wanted to ensure I still had a complete set of the 1869/69 die pairs, so I bought this one yesterday:
It’s already out for designation. I included the descriptive literature from EERC. The tv is way too dark so I didn’t want to post it.
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
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Copperindian
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Thanks for the kind words!
NGC PF 64BN
Haha.
I can electronically mail this to you…
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100% agree with RED in the old holders!
A fatty with a gold sticker!? That is remarkable! I would be so proud to own that one!
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I love that one. I used to own it.
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This is an interesting one....It was originally purchased in an NGC holder as a PF64BN (Bronze).
It was cracked and sent to PCGS, where it graded PF65 (copper Nickel).
Metallurgic analysis says it is bronze, but on a thick planchet. That should make it a J-356a Pattern and should be graded with a color designation. Looks absolutely Cameo in hand too!
@redraider: great coin! Curious about the metallurgical test: did you do that before or after going to PCGS? Are you going to attempt to designate it as a J-356a? Love these coins with distinct obv/rev contrast!
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
@Copperindian: Metlaergic testing was done in the NGC slab and was not accurate. It was cracked out and tested again and tested as bronze. It then went to PCGS (with the metallurgic testing results) where the testing results were ignored and went into a Copper-Nickel holder.
Here is the testing results. Interesting to see more than trace amount of silver and gold in the result.
The mint did a lot of funky stuff in 1864 in testing new metal compositions, so who knows what this one really is.
That’s very interesting!
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Upgrading:
I had a 64BN for about 10 years. The new one has exceptional eye appeal (but the old one wasn’t bad either):
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What a cool clash!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Great coin Ken!! If you ever want to upgrade it again, I might be able to help you out.
Conquering the Big Registry Set:
Graded MS 64BN. This is the very rare S-4 variety; few are known & this is a pop 2/0. The Big Registry Set? It’s the IHC Complete Variety Set with no less than 185(!) examples. I have 8 remaining after this find & it’s been months since I added one! Do I expect to finish it? No, not really. A handful that remain are very obscure & seldom seen, let alone available.
What made acquiring this coin even more difficult was the “road trip” it took over the past year. It started here:
It was a 62BN with the variety not designated. And yes, the TV’s are actually of the same coin. It was submitted for review/upgrade as the grade seemed low with the result above. The S-4 designation was also added.
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
Feeding the toner “addiction”:
One of 8 sharing the top pop. Really nice eye appeal & remarkable contrast between the two sides.
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
The only one I've got but she makes me smile.
I find collecting toned proof IHC's can be way more challenging than RD IHC's. Way too many levels of RD that are only color. Color is truly special. But I do admire your dedication to all varieties which requires true intent. A toned proof set of IHC's would be like a walk in the park for you, and very gratifying as well.
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Wonderful coins, everybody!
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@Cladiator, she would make me smile, too!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Another one “down”:
(slab shot taken before the attribution was added).
The 1888 S-27 is #178 of the 185 needed for the IHC Complete Variety Set. It’s an absolute beast & I’ve occasionally had regrets about ever trying to achieve it. But, with “only” 7 to go, it’s become possible. I’ll have another one to add soon: a 1903 S-7 in PCGS 62BN. The seller is traveling, but I’m all too glad to work within his timetable. Then, I’ll have 6 remaining. It will be a tough 6 for sure!
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
That’s fantastic!
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A doily for a Sunday:
I don’t recall ever posting this one. It’s not designated (& won’t be as long as I own it), but it’s the very tough 1867/67. The S-1 sticker designates the variety. Hard to tell from the woodgrain, but it’s close to full RD.
Edit: I neglected to add this, which nicely shows the overdate. It’s so pronounced, it can be seen with the naked eye:
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon