@Darin said:
Maybe this should have been a 49’ers collapse thread instead of Chiefs.
San Fran from Super Bowl to last place in their division at 6-11
Good point, I agree. SF really did collapse this year.
If I'm remembering right, the 49ers were the pre-season favorite to win the NFC, which would be logical. If not the favorite, they were certainly right up there.
@Basebal21 said:
Going to be interesting if the Bengals hang on and win. The Chiefs could just tank the game and make sure Burrow cant get in the playoffs
Going by yesterday's performance, that's exactly what the Chiefs did.
If that's the quality of the Chief's back-ups, they had better hope no one gets hurt in the play-offs.
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Detroit Lions: +280
Kansas City Chiefs: +350
Baltimore Ravens: +600
Buffalo Bills: +650
Philadelphia Eagles: +700
Minnesota Vikings: +1600
Green Bay Packers: +2000
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: +2500
Los Angeles Chargers: +2800
Washington Commanders: +4500
Los Angeles Rams: +4500
Denver Broncos: +5500
Houston Texans: +8000
Pittsburgh Steelers: +9000
Note that it's rare at this point in the season that long shots wind-up winning the Super Bowl.
Sorry to say that the longer shots listed here are most likely sucker bets. The medium range odds listed are bad bets. Chances are good that the Super Bowl winner will be one of the top 5 teams listed here.
Notice the large odds break between the Eagles and Vikings. It's there for a reason. Bookies don't like giving money away.
Detroit Lions: +285
Kansas City Chiefs: +370
Philadelphia Eagles: +400
Baltimore Ravens: +500
Buffalo Bills: +550
Washington Commanders: +2200
Los Angeles Rams: +2200
Houston Texans: +5500
Well the regular season is over, and the Chiefs did much better than I thought. Whatever are the reasons for their success, such as uncanny good luck in a number of games, ya can't argue much with 15-2.
I predicted, I forget exactly when in this thread, that the Chiefs would lose their first playoff game. I'm sticking with that call. Yes, perhaps the Texans have about as much chance of beating the Chiefs on Saturday, as Jed Clampett finding oil in his backyard.
Mahomes is going to have to make at least a few major mistakes to lose this game, and the problem is he rarely does that. The Texans basically can't make any major mistakes. They need to play near flawless football to stay in this game, and maybe eek out a close win. We shall see what happens.
Oh BTW, I almost forgot, Jed did find oil in his backyard. 😉
@stevek said: So of course the Chiefs get to play the weakest team in their first playoff game
You're smarter than that and should probably change records, this one's broken and run the course. I'm now hoping for a Chiefs/Eagles rematch so KC knocks 'em into next week and gets lucky all game.
@Maywood said: @stevek said: So of course the Chiefs get to play the weakest team in their first playoff game
You're smarter than that and should probably change records, this one's broken and run the course. I'm now hoping for a Chiefs/Eagles rematch so KC knocks 'em into next week and gets lucky all game.
If there's a Chiefs/Eagles rematch, better keep the women and children from viewing this thread. The smack in here could get real ugly. 😉
@Maywood said: @stevek said: So of course the Chiefs get to play the weakest team in their first playoff game
You're smarter than that and should probably change records, this one's broken and run the course. I'm now hoping for a Chiefs/Eagles rematch so KC knocks 'em into next week and gets lucky all game.
If there's a Chiefs/Eagles rematch, better keep the women and children from viewing this thread. The smack in here could get real ugly. 😉
It would absolutely need its own thread titled "No Mods Allowed"
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Kansas City should change their name to “The Horseshoes.” They get every break without fail. They will probably luck themselves into another Super Bowl.
Sour grapes? Yea, I’m tired of them.
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A terrible call gives Mahomes 15 free yards. The horseshoes continue.
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@grote15 said:
+9.5 is appearing to be a wise bet.
Who knew?! LOL. Damn, the KC bettors at -9.5 must be incensed!
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@BillJones said:
Kansas City should change their name to “The Horseshoes.” They get every break without fail. They will probably luck themselves into another Super Bowl.
Sour grapes? Yea, I’m tired of them.
Houston kicker sure didn't help matters any. Missed a friggin' extra point which would have tied the game earlier. Changed the complexion of the Houston play calling.
The Chiefs are blessed this season by the football gods, there is no question about it. I guess they must like Taylor Swift music. 😛
Maybe this is a bit of archaic thinking, but win or lose I just like to see a clean game officiating wise. I know it's impossible, but with technology being what it is there really is no excuse. Getting it right is paramount, especially in playoff type games. Get it right, what's a few extra minutes considering what is at stake. It's a long season and the players work hard and deserve it. As do the fans.
And I do not speak not only from a betting standpoint, but for the integrity of the game as well. Remember a blown call that favors your team this week, can turn around next week and work against your team.
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The bad calls never seem to go against Kansas City.
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@BillJones said:
Kansas City should change their name to “The Horseshoes.” They get every break without fail. They will probably luck themselves into another Super Bowl.
Sour grapes? Yea, I’m tired of them.
I thought that the horseshoes played In Indianapolis.
Again the one thing that just boggles my mind is how Travis Kelce is allowed to just run routes in the middle of the field with nary a defender around him, it's absolutely perplexing to me.
It happens all the time and I just can't grasp why defensive Coordinators allow it
@perkdog said:
Again the one thing that just boggles my mind is how Travis Kelce is allowed to just run routes in the middle of the field with nary a defender around him, it's absolutely perplexing to me.
It happens all the time and I just can't grasp why defensive Coordinators allow it
Travis Kelce is allowed to just run routes in the middle of the field with nary a defender around him, it's absolutely perplexing to me.
It's gotta be either a Dual Clip New School Green (Not Polo Green) or a Red-Peg...
@grote15 said:
+9.5 is appearing to be a wise bet.
Who knew?! LOL. Damn, the KC bettors at -9.5 must be incensed!
What a grotesque way to lose a bet.
Witty pun for a Philly fan!
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@perkdog said:
Again the one thing that just boggles my mind is how Travis Kelce is allowed to just run routes in the middle of the field with nary a defender around him, it's absolutely perplexing to me.
It happens all the time and I just can't grasp why defensive Coordinators allow it
Travis Kelce is allowed to just run routes in the middle of the field with nary a defender around him, it's absolutely perplexing to me.
I am constantly baffled by that. He's seemingly never covered. HOW?! The guys has like 5000 career catches. Might want to cover him.
@perkdog said:
Again the one thing that just boggles my mind is how Travis Kelce is allowed to just run routes in the middle of the field with nary a defender around him, it's absolutely perplexing to me.
It happens all the time and I just can't grasp why defensive Coordinators allow it
We have to keep Taylor Swift happy. It helps the viewership ratings and makes for wonderful human interest stories in the newspapers and elsewhere.
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@perkdog said:
Again the one thing that just boggles my mind is how Travis Kelce is allowed to just run routes in the middle of the field with nary a defender around him, it's absolutely perplexing to me.
It happens all the time and I just can't grasp why defensive Coordinators allow it
We have to keep Taylor Swift happy. It helps the viewership ratings and makes for wonderful human interest stories in the newspapers and elsewhere.
The Taylor Swift conspiracy thing has to do with the NFL, not opposing teams lol
The Houston Texans don't care about that stuff, If I'm the owner I'm seriously considering firing the DC this morning after that.
It's the next day and I'm still in awe of how they let Kelce run free like they did.
Agreed can really ignore the whole Taylor thing. Her impact has already happened and peaked out. The simple fact is that the NFL knows what brings the eyes and its the star QBs. Peyton and Brady had very favorable officiating during their careers, Rodgers did too depending who he was playing against. Anytime you have the best of the best QB the NFL refs more often than not will be officiating differently than they would if like Rattler, or Jones is out there.
You need another star QB on the other side to offset it. While super annoying and pretty much everyone wishes it didnt happen, its been going on a long time and will almost certainly continue with the next generation when the Mahomes and Allens age out of the league
@perkdog said:
Again the one thing that just boggles my mind is how Travis Kelce is allowed to just run routes in the middle of the field with nary a defender around him, it's absolutely perplexing to me.
It happens all the time and I just can't grasp why defensive Coordinators allow it
We have to keep Taylor Swift happy. It helps the viewership ratings and makes for wonderful human interest stories in the newspapers and elsewhere.
I'm usually not a "conspiracy theory" type of person. For example I still believe that Oswald acted alone. That being said, I've been looking at the replays on some of these penalties called against the Texans, and it's gotta make ya wonder what's going on?
It's been said that in the NFL, perhaps in any football game, a penalty could be called on every play. I'm starting to wonder if perhaps subliminally, if not overtly, the refs figure that a Chiefs' Super Bowl win and a three-peat, would be good for the NFL, bring in more revenue, and thus increase the salaries and benefits of the refs.
I'm not accusing anyone at this point of the following, but the gambling possibility of rigging a game can never be ruled out. Although at this time I don't believe that's the case here.
Gee, last time I checked, I thought in football it was okay to touch and shove a player when he is still in bounds. I guess not against Patrick Mahomes?
@stevek said:
Gee, last time I checked, I thought in football it was okay to touch and shove a player when he is still in bounds. I guess not against Patrick Mahomes?
Classic Mahomes right there, one of these games he is going to get absolutely leveled by a part time player where it won't hurt if he gets ejected or not.
I've always like Mahomes but it's getting to the point where it's hard to be a fan of his unless your a KC guy now.
@stevek said:
Gee, last time I checked, I thought in football it was okay to touch and shove a player when he is still in bounds. I guess not against Patrick Mahomes?
The rule was supposed to be when the quarterback was running around and evading tackles like a halfback, He could be tackled like everyone else. If he going into a slide, that's a different story. Mahomes was running around evading people. What you supplosed to do, make it into a flag football game because Mahomes is involved? If you took it easy on Mahomes, he's likely to run past you for a touchdown.
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@stevek said:
Gee, last time I checked, I thought in football it was okay to touch and shove a player when he is still in bounds. I guess not against Patrick Mahomes?
The rule was supposed to be when the quarterback was running around and evading tackles like a halfback, He could be tackled like everyone else. If he going into a slide, that's a different story. Mahomes was running around evading people. What you supplosed to do, make it into a flag football game because Mahomes is involved? If you took it easy on Mahomes, he's likely to run past you for a touchdown.
It was a terrible call, but thats what the refs do and have done for the face of the league QBs. The next generation will likely get the same treatment just like the ones now and the generation before. Its not right but its what they do pretty consistently
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Maybe this should have been a 49’ers collapse thread instead of Chiefs.
San Fran from Super Bowl to last place in their division at 6-11
Good point, I agree. SF really did collapse this year.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
If I'm remembering right, the 49ers were the pre-season favorite to win the NFC, which would be logical. If not the favorite, they were certainly right up there.
Madden Cover jinx in full effect
McCaffrey was on the cover and that explains it all right there
Why couldn't they put Mahomes on there? 😒
Going by yesterday's performance, that's exactly what the Chiefs did.
If that's the quality of the Chief's back-ups, they had better hope no one gets hurt in the play-offs.
Super Bowl odds:
Detroit Lions: +280
Kansas City Chiefs: +350
Baltimore Ravens: +600
Buffalo Bills: +650
Philadelphia Eagles: +700
Minnesota Vikings: +1600
Green Bay Packers: +2000
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: +2500
Los Angeles Chargers: +2800
Washington Commanders: +4500
Los Angeles Rams: +4500
Denver Broncos: +5500
Houston Texans: +8000
Pittsburgh Steelers: +9000
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Note that it's rare at this point in the season that long shots wind-up winning the Super Bowl.
Sorry to say that the longer shots listed here are most likely sucker bets. The medium range odds listed are bad bets. Chances are good that the Super Bowl winner will be one of the top 5 teams listed here.
Notice the large odds break between the Eagles and Vikings. It's there for a reason. Bookies don't like giving money away.
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I imagine KC will make short work of Houston this weekend. I am excited for the AFCCG. I think KC vs. either Buf or Bal will be a GREAT game!!!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Super Bowl LIX Odds
Detroit Lions: +285
Kansas City Chiefs: +370
Philadelphia Eagles: +400
Baltimore Ravens: +500
Buffalo Bills: +550
Washington Commanders: +2200
Los Angeles Rams: +2200
Houston Texans: +5500
The bookies sure aren't showing the Texans much love in the odds.
So of course the Chiefs get to play the weakest team in their first playoff game. It's the way the Chiefs good luck has been running all season. 🙄
That's just kinda how that #1 seed thingy works...
Well the regular season is over, and the Chiefs did much better than I thought. Whatever are the reasons for their success, such as uncanny good luck in a number of games, ya can't argue much with 15-2.
I predicted, I forget exactly when in this thread, that the Chiefs would lose their first playoff game. I'm sticking with that call. Yes, perhaps the Texans have about as much chance of beating the Chiefs on Saturday, as Jed Clampett finding oil in his backyard.
Mahomes is going to have to make at least a few major mistakes to lose this game, and the problem is he rarely does that. The Texans basically can't make any major mistakes. They need to play near flawless football to stay in this game, and maybe eek out a close win. We shall see what happens.
Oh BTW, I almost forgot, Jed did find oil in his backyard. 😉
@stevek said: So of course the Chiefs get to play the weakest team in their first playoff game
You're smarter than that and should probably change records, this one's broken and run the course. I'm now hoping for a Chiefs/Eagles rematch so KC knocks 'em into next week and gets lucky all game.
If there's a Chiefs/Eagles rematch, better keep the women and children from viewing this thread. The smack in here could get real ugly. 😉
It would absolutely need its own thread titled "No Mods Allowed"
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+9.5 is appearing to be a wise bet.
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Kansas City should change their name to “The Horseshoes.” They get every break without fail. They will probably luck themselves into another Super Bowl.
Sour grapes? Yea, I’m tired of them.
A terrible call gives Mahomes 15 free yards. The horseshoes continue.
There were 2 questionable 15 yard penalties against Houston. Both confirmed by the booth analyst.
Who knew?! LOL. Damn, the KC bettors at -9.5 must be incensed!
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What a grotesque way to lose a bet.
Houston kicker sure didn't help matters any. Missed a friggin' extra point which would have tied the game earlier. Changed the complexion of the Houston play calling.
The Chiefs are blessed this season by the football gods, there is no question about it. I guess they must like Taylor Swift music. 😛
This has been going on all season in favor of the Chiefs. I've never seen anything like it.
Maybe this is a bit of archaic thinking, but win or lose I just like to see a clean game officiating wise. I know it's impossible, but with technology being what it is there really is no excuse. Getting it right is paramount, especially in playoff type games. Get it right, what's a few extra minutes considering what is at stake. It's a long season and the players work hard and deserve it. As do the fans.
And I do not speak not only from a betting standpoint, but for the integrity of the game as well. Remember a blown call that favors your team this week, can turn around next week and work against your team.
The bad calls never seem to go against Kansas City.
I thought that the horseshoes played In Indianapolis.
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Again the one thing that just boggles my mind is how Travis Kelce is allowed to just run routes in the middle of the field with nary a defender around him, it's absolutely perplexing to me.
It happens all the time and I just can't grasp why defensive Coordinators allow it
Travis Kelce is allowed to just run routes in the middle of the field with nary a defender around him, it's absolutely perplexing to me.
It's gotta be either a Dual Clip New School Green (Not Polo Green) or a Red-Peg...
If the Chiefs get a ring this season, the refs should also get one.
If this comes to pass, maybe the refs will also get the SB MVP award.
Witty pun for a Philly fan!
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I am constantly baffled by that. He's seemingly never covered. HOW?! The guys has like 5000 career catches. Might want to cover him.
We have to keep Taylor Swift happy. It helps the viewership ratings and makes for wonderful human interest stories in the newspapers and elsewhere.
I missed the game so I am unable to complain about getting 4 1/2-5 hours of my life back.
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The Taylor Swift conspiracy thing has to do with the NFL, not opposing teams lol
The Houston Texans don't care about that stuff, If I'm the owner I'm seriously considering firing the DC this morning after that.
It's the next day and I'm still in awe of how they let Kelce run free like they did.
It's absolutely mind boggling
Agreed can really ignore the whole Taylor thing. Her impact has already happened and peaked out. The simple fact is that the NFL knows what brings the eyes and its the star QBs. Peyton and Brady had very favorable officiating during their careers, Rodgers did too depending who he was playing against. Anytime you have the best of the best QB the NFL refs more often than not will be officiating differently than they would if like Rattler, or Jones is out there.
You need another star QB on the other side to offset it. While super annoying and pretty much everyone wishes it didnt happen, its been going on a long time and will almost certainly continue with the next generation when the Mahomes and Allens age out of the league
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I'm usually not a "conspiracy theory" type of person. For example I still believe that Oswald acted alone. That being said, I've been looking at the replays on some of these penalties called against the Texans, and it's gotta make ya wonder what's going on?
It's been said that in the NFL, perhaps in any football game, a penalty could be called on every play. I'm starting to wonder if perhaps subliminally, if not overtly, the refs figure that a Chiefs' Super Bowl win and a three-peat, would be good for the NFL, bring in more revenue, and thus increase the salaries and benefits of the refs.
I'm not accusing anyone at this point of the following, but the gambling possibility of rigging a game can never be ruled out. Although at this time I don't believe that's the case here.
Actually I didn't think about the "grote" in the word grotesque when I posted it. LOL
Gee, last time I checked, I thought in football it was okay to touch and shove a player when he is still in bounds. I guess not against Patrick Mahomes?
Classic Mahomes right there, one of these games he is going to get absolutely leveled by a part time player where it won't hurt if he gets ejected or not.
I've always like Mahomes but it's getting to the point where it's hard to be a fan of his unless your a KC guy now.
The rule was supposed to be when the quarterback was running around and evading tackles like a halfback, He could be tackled like everyone else. If he going into a slide, that's a different story. Mahomes was running around evading people. What you supplosed to do, make it into a flag football game because Mahomes is involved? If you took it easy on Mahomes, he's likely to run past you for a touchdown.
It was a terrible call, but thats what the refs do and have done for the face of the league QBs. The next generation will likely get the same treatment just like the ones now and the generation before. Its not right but its what they do pretty consistently
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
when i initially saw that i thought, now that is quite clever
but you didn't even realize what you were doing
that's more disappointing than my KC-Det parlay yesterday
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