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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:

    @stevek said:

    @grote15 said:

    @stevek said:

    @grote15 said:

    @grote15 said:
    +9.5 is appearing to be a wise bet.

    Who knew?! LOL. Damn, the KC bettors at -9.5 must be incensed!

    What a grotesque way to lose a bet.

    Witty pun for a Philly fan! :D

    Actually I didn't think about the "grote" in the word grotesque when I posted it. LOL

    when i initially saw that i thought, now that is quite clever

    but you didn't even realize what you were doing

    that's more disappointing than my KC-Det parlay yesterday

    Hopefully you score some galactic winners today.

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:
    Gee, last time I checked, I thought in football it was okay to touch and shove a player when he is still in bounds. I guess not against Patrick Mahomes?

    Uh that wasn’t called a penalty. Watch the game at all?

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,286 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @galaxy27 said:

    @stevek said:

    @grote15 said:

    @stevek said:

    @grote15 said:

    @grote15 said:
    +9.5 is appearing to be a wise bet.

    Who knew?! LOL. Damn, the KC bettors at -9.5 must be incensed!

    What a grotesque way to lose a bet.

    Witty pun for a Philly fan! :D

    Actually I didn't think about the "grote" in the word grotesque when I posted it. LOL

    when i initially saw that i thought, now that is quite clever

    but you didn't even realize what you were doing

    that's more disappointing than my KC-Det parlay yesterday

    Hopefully you score some galactic winners today.

    now THAT was intentional :D

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:

    @stevek said:
    Gee, last time I checked, I thought in football it was okay to touch and shove a player when he is still in bounds. I guess not against Patrick Mahomes?

    Uh that wasn’t called a penalty. Watch the game at all?

    Your boy Patrick tried to draw a penalty.

    Like LaBron does with his silly flops.

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @Darin said:

    @stevek said:
    Gee, last time I checked, I thought in football it was okay to touch and shove a player when he is still in bounds. I guess not against Patrick Mahomes?

    Uh that wasn’t called a penalty. Watch the game at all?

    Your boy Patrick tried to draw a penalty.

    Like LaBron does with his silly flops.

    I don’t get it, it’s a smart move to try to draw the penalty. Now if he had complained that it wasn’t called, that’s different.

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Steve…. what’s the difference between that and a QB trying to draw the defense offsides with his cadence, which all of them try to do?

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:
    Steve…. what’s the difference between that and a QB trying to draw the defense offsides with his cadence, which all of them try to do?

    One is trying to fool the opponent (tactical), the other is trying to fool the refs (cheating).

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @Darin said:
    Steve…. what’s the difference between that and a QB trying to draw the defense offsides with his cadence, which all of them try to do?

    One is trying to fool the opponent (tactical), the other is trying to fool the refs (cheating).

    Trying to fool the refs isnt cheating, its a part of sports. The flopping nonsense is a problem with the NBA and especially soccer, unfortunately its made its way into football. The only way to stop it is to just stop calling it or let replay buzz down and say pick up the flag. You cant really blame the player for taking advantage of the situation when its not a coincidence that the elite QBs seem to have a separate rule book for at least the last 25 years now

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  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:
    Steve…. what’s the difference between that and a QB trying to draw the defense offsides with his cadence, which all of them try to do?

    Or the defense running at the offensive line to make them flinch.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 19, 2025 5:16PM

    I'll say this much about flopping, I definitely do not look at it as cheating

    My problem is when an opposing QB gets lightly pushed out of bounds and it's called for one guy but not the next guy

    Watching the Ravens and Bills I saw Lamar get the same type of light push as he was going out of bounds and Lamar took an ugly fall and nothing was called

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Super Bowl LIX Odds

    Philadelphia Eagles: +180
    Kansas City Chiefs: +240
    Buffalo Bills: +260
    Washington Commanders: +650

  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With the majority of our forum members being privy all year long to the NFL script that will soon crown the Chiefs as Super Bowl Champions, I sure hope you've all gotten rich along the way. And finally, the last chance to really make some money is here. I sure hope everyone is betting the house on the +240 odds. Call your neighbors, call your friends, borrow against your 401K... Get every dollar you can scrape together down on it. Even though Shaquon didn't care about you, Roger Goodell is looking out for you. There is no excuse any one of you should be poor after this entire season of rigged football.

  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never in my life had I ever heard a gambler complain when they had found an advantage, until my interaction with the characters on this forum.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2025 4:28AM

    @countdouglas said:
    With the majority of our forum members being privy all year long to the NFL script that will soon crown the Chiefs as Super Bowl Champions, I sure hope you've all gotten rich along the way. And finally, the last chance to really make some money is here. I sure hope everyone is betting the house on the +240 odds. Call your neighbors, call your friends, borrow against your 401K... Get every dollar you can scrape together down on it. Even though Shaquon didn't care about you, Roger Goodell is looking out for you. There is no excuse any one of you should be poor after this entire season of rigged football.

    How much was your KC haul this season?

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @countdouglas said:
    With the majority of our forum members being privy all year long to the NFL script that will soon crown the Chiefs as Super Bowl Champions, I sure hope you've all gotten rich along the way. And finally, the last chance to really make some money is here. I sure hope everyone is betting the house on the +240 odds. Call your neighbors, call your friends, borrow against your 401K... Get every dollar you can scrape together down on it. Even though Shaquon didn't care about you, Roger Goodell is looking out for you. There is no excuse any one of you should be poor after this entire season of rigged football.

    How much was your KC haul this season?

    KC is 7-10-1 vs the spread so far this season so I'm guessing not a lot.



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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2025 6:35PM

    @grote15 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @countdouglas said:
    With the majority of our forum members being privy all year long to the NFL script that will soon crown the Chiefs as Super Bowl Champions, I sure hope you've all gotten rich along the way. And finally, the last chance to really make some money is here. I sure hope everyone is betting the house on the +240 odds. Call your neighbors, call your friends, borrow against your 401K... Get every dollar you can scrape together down on it. Even though Shaquon didn't care about you, Roger Goodell is looking out for you. There is no excuse any one of you should be poor after this entire season of rigged football.

    How much was your KC haul this season?

    KC is 7-10-1 vs the spread so far this season so I'm guessing not a lot.

    Well he said there was no excuse for any of us to not have made a ton of money off KC which begs that question I asked him.

    KC money line were the only way to bet them but you need to put up almost 3 to 1 and that is tough to do

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,646 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:
    Super Bowl LIX Odds

    Philadelphia Eagles: +180
    Kansas City Chiefs: +240
    Buffalo Bills: +260
    Washington Commanders: +650

    i got the bills all the way

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,646 ✭✭✭✭✭

    one piece of good news for KC is that PM has his magic back

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @grote15 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @countdouglas said:
    With the majority of our forum members being privy all year long to the NFL script that will soon crown the Chiefs as Super Bowl Champions, I sure hope you've all gotten rich along the way. And finally, the last chance to really make some money is here. I sure hope everyone is betting the house on the +240 odds. Call your neighbors, call your friends, borrow against your 401K... Get every dollar you can scrape together down on it. Even though Shaquon didn't care about you, Roger Goodell is looking out for you. There is no excuse any one of you should be poor after this entire season of rigged football.

    How much was your KC haul this season?

    KC is 7-10-1 vs the spread so far this season so I'm guessing not a lot.

    Well he said there was no excuse for any of us to not have made a ton of money off KC which begs that question I asked him.

    KC money line were the only way to bet them but you need to put up almost 3 to 1 and that is tough to do

    Yes, and a number of those successful ML bets on KC just barely squeaked thru.

    Heart attack material when you're betting a lot of money to make a meager profit.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 12,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's a tip for the Bills; don't hit Mahomes in the head.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:
    Here's a tip for the Bills; don't hit Mahomes in the head.

    I got a better one.

    On critical 3rd downs or if the game is on the line and KC has to drive the length of the field to score....

    Cover Travis Kelce, don't let him roam free to gash you with a wide open catch and run 🤷

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 12,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @JoeBanzai said:
    Here's a tip for the Bills; don't hit Mahomes in the head.

    I got a better one.

    On critical 3rd downs or if the game is on the line and KC has to drive the length of the field to score....

    Cover Travis Kelce, don't let him roam free to gash you with a wide open catch and run 🤷

    That's a good idea too!

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  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said: Cover Travis Kelce, don't let him roam free to gash you with a wide open catch and run 🤷

    That is what all sane fans know and will be shouting at their screens during the game. The truth is probably going to be closer to 10 targets, 7 catches for 92 yards and a TD.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    @perkdog said: Cover Travis Kelce, don't let him roam free to gash you with a wide open catch and run 🤷

    That is what all sane fans know and will be shouting at their screens during the game. The truth is probably going to be closer to 10 targets, 7 catches for 92 yards and a TD.

    I mean literally there is zero reason to think otherwise, it happens so much it's just to be expected, and if and when it happens against Buffalo this Sunday and the Bills lose then McDermott and the Defensive Coordinator need to be fired immediately following the game

    There is no excuses, they got beat by this before

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Bills defensive ends throughout the game, should be making snarky remarks about Taylor to Kelce. Call her "Taylor Trash" or something like that. Get Kelce hissed off, and lose focus on what plays are being called. Maybe Kelce takes a swing at the opponent and get tossed out of the game.

    😉

  • bgrbgr Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's also an argument that Kelce is good at reading defenses, finding open space, and he can beat man coverage with relative ease, even at this point in his career.

    Considering the Bills usually use a 4-2-5 scheme, and I wouldn't call their linebackers great at shutting down TEs I think this has to be a shoot-out. I'm interested in knowing how you might approach Kelce on defense (other than just covering him) if you're Buffalo's defensive coordinator here. It seems like a tough task. Thoughts?

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bgr said:
    There's also an argument that Kelce is good at reading defenses, finding open space, and he can beat man coverage with relative ease, even at this point in his career.

    Considering the Bills usually use a 4-2-5 scheme, and I wouldn't call their linebackers great at shutting down TEs I think this has to be a shoot-out. I'm interested in knowing how you might approach Kelce on defense (other than just covering him) if you're Buffalo's defensive coordinator here. It seems like a tough task. Thoughts?

    The Bills played the Chiefs earlier this season, and handed the Chiefs their only "real" loss.

    Kelce had 2 catches for 8 yards in that game. No touchdowns.

  • bgrbgr Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @bgr said:
    There's also an argument that Kelce is good at reading defenses, finding open space, and he can beat man coverage with relative ease, even at this point in his career.

    Considering the Bills usually use a 4-2-5 scheme, and I wouldn't call their linebackers great at shutting down TEs I think this has to be a shoot-out. I'm interested in knowing how you might approach Kelce on defense (other than just covering him) if you're Buffalo's defensive coordinator here. It seems like a tough task. Thoughts?

    The Bills played the Chiefs earlier this season, and handed the Chiefs their only "real" loss.

    Kelce had 2 catches for 8 yards in that game. No touchdowns.

    Then there's nothing to worry about. ;)

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2025 9:49AM

    @bgr said:
    There's also an argument that Kelce is good at reading defenses, finding open space, and he can beat man coverage with relative ease, even at this point in his career.

    Considering the Bills usually use a 4-2-5 scheme, and I wouldn't call their linebackers great at shutting down TEs I think this has to be a shoot-out. I'm interested in knowing how you might approach Kelce on defense (other than just covering him) if you're Buffalo's defensive coordinator here. It seems like a tough task. Thoughts?

    I'd put 2 guys on him and just take him out of the game on critical downs

    If you get beat by Hopkins or Brown then so be it, neither guy has shown much

    Worthy is not a big dude and can be jammed early and often to the point you wear him down but he is the only offensive weapon outside of Kelce that is be concerned about

  • bgrbgr Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @bgr said:
    There's also an argument that Kelce is good at reading defenses, finding open space, and he can beat man coverage with relative ease, even at this point in his career.

    Considering the Bills usually use a 4-2-5 scheme, and I wouldn't call their linebackers great at shutting down TEs I think this has to be a shoot-out. I'm interested in knowing how you might approach Kelce on defense (other than just covering him) if you're Buffalo's defensive coordinator here. It seems like a tough task. Thoughts?

    I'd put 2 guys on him and just take him out of the game on critical downs

    If you get beat by Hopkins or Brown then so be it, neither guy has shown much

    Worthy is not a big dude and can be jammed early and often to the point you wear him down but he is the only offensive weapon outside of Kelce that is be concerned about

    I would agree that Man coverage on Kelce is the way to go. He's certainly been less effective against man than zone the last few years. You could help over the top.

    That said, the Bills seem to use zone a lot. I didn't watch a lot of their regular season games, but in the playoffs, I've seen zone most of the time, and a lot of dime. They didn't seem to blitz much, but their linebackers play close to the line, bluff a lot, and seem to have the primary responsibility of plugging holes in the line to stuff the run. I caught the Bills-Chiefs game on replay while waiting for a flight a couple weeks ago, and that was one of the best defensive games I've seen by the Bills in a while - since they were actually legit on D. I did see a few glimpses of cover 2 in the game against the Ravens, so they can play it, which I think would be the right D for what you're saying here because they can use Man coverage with a LB and then have a DB or Safety helping over the top with Kelce. They weren't very successful with this coverage against the Ravens. I think it will be a shoot-out.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @bgr said:
    There's also an argument that Kelce is good at reading defenses, finding open space, and he can beat man coverage with relative ease, even at this point in his career.

    Considering the Bills usually use a 4-2-5 scheme, and I wouldn't call their linebackers great at shutting down TEs I think this has to be a shoot-out. I'm interested in knowing how you might approach Kelce on defense (other than just covering him) if you're Buffalo's defensive coordinator here. It seems like a tough task. Thoughts?

    I'd put 2 guys on him and just take him out of the game on critical downs

    If you get beat by Hopkins or Brown then so be it, neither guy has shown much

    Worthy is not a big dude and can be jammed early and often to the point you wear him down but he is the only offensive weapon outside of Kelce that is be concerned about

    My guess in that Bills-Chiefs game, the Bills figured something like this. Say the Chiefs have the ball, their side of the field, 3rd and 10, a likely pass play. The Bills would rather take a chance on a wide receiver beating them on say a 30 yard pass play, which isn't easy to complete. Than having Kelce beat them on an easy 10 yard completion for a first down. The Bills strategy obviously worked well in that game.

    The Bills defensive line simply has to step it up in those circumstances, and cause havoc in the pocket. Yes agree, make sure Kelce is well covered, and if a Chiefs wide receiver makes a long catch, then so be it.

    Now of course a football game is like a chess match with real people. Reid will now know what the Bills may do, and attempt to design plays against it. Should be a heckuva game trying to figure what the next play will be, which I enjoy doing. Once in a while, I even get one right. 😉

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,272 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is the only way that the Chiefs can avoid the major collapse in the 2024-2025 NFL season winning the upcoming Superbowl?

    Even if the Chiefs do win the upcoming Superbowl, will the major collapse still be present because the team did not win in the manner and/or style that was to be expected?

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    On May 8th, 2024, @stevek said The Kansas City Chiefs are setting themselves up for a major collapse this upcoming season and I think everyone would agree that not to have been the case. The Chiefs are playing in the AFC Championship game, so unless anything less then playing in the Super Bowl is considered a "major collapse" then the original premise is a gross overstatement.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    Is the only way that the Chiefs can avoid the major collapse in the 2024-2025 NFL season winning the upcoming Superbowl?

    Even if the Chiefs do win the upcoming Superbowl, will the major collapse still be present because the team did not win in the manner and/or style that was to be expected?

    @Maywood said:
    On May 8th, 2024, @stevek said The Kansas City Chiefs are setting themselves up for a major collapse this upcoming season and I think everyone would agree that not to have been the case. The Chiefs are playing in the AFC Championship game, so unless anything less then playing in the Super Bowl is considered a "major collapse" then the original premise is a gross overstatement.

    Nothing against @stevek

    But the Chiefs obviously didn't collapse this season.

    Unless for the Chiefs and their fans they believe Super Bowl win or complete failure then sure you could say they "Collapsed" when it mattered, being truthful I can relate to that thought process because I deemed some of the Patriots seasons with B&B a complete waste since they didn't win the Super Bowl that year, right wrong or indifferent

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    Worthy is not a big dude and can be jammed early and often to the point you wear him down but he is the only offensive weapon outside of Kelce that is be concerned about

    You can, but if you wiff or he slips lose no one is catching him from behind

    I do agree though, if Im the DC Im making someone other than Kelce and Worthy beat me. Some guys will have to step up and take some guys 1 on 1 but Im taking away their two biggest threats. Teams have no one to blame but themselves if they let Kelce or Worthy beat them

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    On May 8th, 2024, @stevek said The Kansas City Chiefs are setting themselves up for a major collapse this upcoming season and I think everyone would agree that not to have been the case. The Chiefs are playing in the AFC Championship game, so unless anything less then playing in the Super Bowl is considered a "major collapse" then the original premise is a gross overstatement.

    The correct answer is that anything other than a 3-peat to the vast majority of Chiefs fans, and to the Chiefs players, will be classified as a major collapse in their minds, because of their pompous attitude. That is a fact.

    If the Chiefs don't win the Super Bowl this season, the first casualty will be Taylor Swift dumping Travis Kelce. She might be asking if Saquon Barkley is available. Maybe she will switch sports and pursue Wemby. 😆

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't agree with that thinking at all and I'm at a loss as to why so many of you guys have so much hate for Taylor Swift.

    Sure, I'm tired of seeing her every time that Kelce does something, but that isn't her fault. That's the NFL and whoever the producer is in the truck telling the cameraman to pan over to her. She's just another fan, blame the network.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    I don't agree with that thinking at all and I'm at a loss as to why so many of you guys have so much hate for Taylor Swift.

    Sure, I'm tired of seeing her every time that Kelce does something, but that isn't her fault. That's the NFL and whoever the producer is in the truck telling the cameraman to pan over to her. She's just another fan, blame the network.

    Now Caitlin is giggling buddies with Taylor. Two for the price of one at Chiefs games. 🙄

    Some day the Chiefs may not allow anyone over 14 years old to attend their games any longer.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2025 2:33PM

    @Maywood said:
    I don't agree with that thinking at all and I'm at a loss as to why so many of you guys have so much hate for Taylor Swift.

    Sure, I'm tired of seeing her every time that Kelce does something, but that isn't her fault. That's the NFL and whoever the producer is in the truck telling the cameraman to pan over to her. She's just another fan, blame the network.

    Who hates Taylor Swift?

    I certainly have nothing against her, the only negative thing surrounding her is the conspiracy theory that it draws in a whole bunch of young girls hoping to catch a glimpse of their superstar which in part makes the refs "Help" the Chiefs win so the NFL brings in more revenue

    That's not what I am saying that's what the internet and thousands of people are saying.

    Could be true could be false but it's absolutely being talked about outside of here lol

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,272 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whether the Chiefs 2024-2025 season is or is not a major collapse is subjective and a matter of the perspective of each person who ponders the question.

    I am sure that many KC fans, coaches and players will consider anything other than a 3 peat to be a major collapse.

    I am sure that others (for examples fans of the Jets, Browns, Jaguars, Vikings, etc.) would consider a season where their teams make it to the Conference Championship game and even the Superbowl game without winning said game to be a successful season instead of a major collapse.

    For me, had Elway not retired after winning the 1998 and the 1999 Superbowls I would have wanted, expected, hoped and demanded that Denver win the 2000 Superbowl for a 3 peat.

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Greed.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @Maywood said:
    I don't agree with that thinking at all and I'm at a loss as to why so many of you guys have so much hate for Taylor Swift.

    Sure, I'm tired of seeing her every time that Kelce does something, but that isn't her fault. That's the NFL and whoever the producer is in the truck telling the cameraman to pan over to her. She's just another fan, blame the network.

    Who hates Taylor Swift?

    Ill raise my hand on that one lol. I dont really hate her but her early country stuff was so much better I wish she would go back to that

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Maywood said:
    I don't agree with that thinking at all and I'm at a loss as to why so many of you guys have so much hate for Taylor Swift.

    Sure, I'm tired of seeing her every time that Kelce does something, but that isn't her fault. That's the NFL and whoever the producer is in the truck telling the cameraman to pan over to her. She's just another fan, blame the network.

    Who hates Taylor Swift?

    Ill raise my hand on that one lol. I dont really hate her but her early country stuff was so much better I wish she would go back to that

    Oh I don't even know a single song of hers lol

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Maywood said:
    I don't agree with that thinking at all and I'm at a loss as to why so many of you guys have so much hate for Taylor Swift.

    Sure, I'm tired of seeing her every time that Kelce does something, but that isn't her fault. That's the NFL and whoever the producer is in the truck telling the cameraman to pan over to her. She's just another fan, blame the network.

    Who hates Taylor Swift?

    Ill raise my hand on that one lol. I dont really hate her but her early country stuff was so much better I wish she would go back to that

    Oh I don't even know a single song of hers lol

    If you go back to the early 2000s she has a lot of great ones. The newer ones I dont enjoy overall

    Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mahomes grandfather in hospice care. Wonder if this may affect, if at all, Patrick for the game.

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  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @Darin said:
    Luckily for us Steve has it all figured out. Just look how a team does ATS to figure out if they can win a SB. 😂.

    No, but it is an indicator that a team isn't meeting expectations. And obviously the Chiefs haven't. However thru an unprecedented amount of good luck, they have managed to accumulate their undeserved 12-1 record.

    I actually like it. When the Chiefs lose in the playoffs and their three-peat dreams get dashed, it will make it all the more fun. 😆

    When did you start not liking the Chief’s?

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Heckuva football game. As expected.

    The fourth quarter might be epic? We shall see.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,646 ✭✭✭✭✭

    bills gunna take it

    mahomes not showing magic right now

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whatever happens, so far it seems like the Bills decision to shut down Kelce at all costs, was the right decision.

    As was discussed in other posts, and as the Bills did earlier in the season when they beat the Chiefs.

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