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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Clackamas1 said:
    The 1868 Mint set in particular. I was #1 for years, got pushed to #2 and then now I am back at #1.

    If I looked at the correct one, then it has a coin missing from the set. This could just be a bookkeeping thing. Remember there are thousands of coins and hundreds of set. So having something get missed when updating might be expected to some extent.

    Currently his Morgan dollar basic set is missing a coin (1891-O) but the same set with Major varieties (an additional 20 coins) is 100% complete with an 1891-O included.

    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/dollars/morgan-dollars-major-sets/morgan-dollars-major-varieties-circulation-strikes-1878-1921/221

    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/dollars/morgan-dollars-major-sets/morgan-dollars-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1878-1921/88

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=2YNufnS_kf4 - Mama I'm coming home ...................................................................................................................................................................... RLJ 1958 - 2023

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,456 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 21, 2023 9:08AM

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    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
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    CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fourth Upgrade to the Hansen / Morelan Collection of Mint State Seated Liberty Dollars

    This is one of the most challenging of all 19th century silver sets. The coins are big and heavy, leading to lots of bagmarks on most surviving mint state examples. In addition, rare dates abound, including the ultra-rare 1870-S, the tough Carson City issues, the rare dates in the early 1850s-the list could continue. Collectors usually choose to buy two examples of this series, one "No Motto" and one "With Motto." A complete set? A great joy and an even greater challenge! - PCGS Registry

    This is another miss upgrade that occurred mid-July. Many of you may know the history and the story of the D.L. Hansen purchase of the Bruce Morelan Collection of Mint State Seated Liberty Dollars. The official communications on the DLRC website states: January 2018 - DLRC brokers Legend Collection of Seated Dollars. The coins were updated in the Hansen registry set on December 26-29, 2017. There were two uber sets of coins purchased in the first 18 months of Hansen collecting, the first was the AWA set of Liberty Head Double Eagles and just a few months later, this great set of Silver Dollars. Mr. Morelan wrote a few comments “About This Set” on the PCGS website: The Morelan Collection is the absolute finest ever completed. It's also the ONLY set ever completed in 100% uncirculated condition. It is highlighted by the James A Stack specimen of the 1870-S, the finest of only 9 coins known. In addition, it contains such amazing rarities as the Starr 1844, Norweb 1845, 1850-O and 1851, Garrett 1848, Fairfield 1849, Hayes 1866, Stack 1871-CC, Austin 1872-CC and the Share 1873-CC.

    In late 2017 and early 2018, David Lawrence Rare Coins brokered a deal to bring this world class 44-piece Silver Dollar set into the Hansen stable. The almost flawless set did have one flaw, the 1870-CC. The coin that came in the deal was an 1870-CC MS62 PCGS POP 8/8. This was an Ex: Eliasberg Specimen that was described in lot 2242 in the April 1997 sale of the Eliasberg Collection as: "MS-62, prooflike. A splendid specimen, struck from a highly polished obverse die, the reverse die less so, but still prooflike. Delicate golden toning on the obverse and reverse, the latter with a splash of lilac and gray. One of the nicest we have seen of this extremely popular issue. High aesthetic appeal plus a high end Mint State numerical grade combine to make this one of the finest known." At the time of the auction, this wonderful survivor opened for bidding at $4,000 and closed at $22,550 (inclusive of the buyer's fee). The coin was offered in Legend’s Regency Auction XXII on 7/13/2017 and realized $41,125. This coin had a great pedigree, but it is subpar for this world class set. I think there is story to be told and it may be that Bruce sold his 1870-CC prior to the Hansen deal. For whatever reason, the MS62 was the first of four coins that Hansen upgrade in five years.

    1870-CC MS62, Cert #83666831 Morelan Specimen (Replaced 7-12/2018) This coin probably should not be referred to as a Morelan Specimen, but it was purchased with the set. Also, it was the first specimen to be replaced in the core collection. The coin is still in the collection, but currently not being used. The Eliasberg MS62 was quickly replaced with 1870-CC MS63 Cert #10789430. The POP 7/1 coin is from the William Porter Collection and currently is in the D. L. Hansen Liberty Seated Dollars (1840-1873) 2nd Set. Both the MS62 and MS63 served only six months in the core set before the final upgrade in July 2018. Hansen purchased from Chris Napolitano the sole finest PCGS certified MS64, Ex: French/ Wong / Battle Born Specimen. The MS64 coin last appeared in Stacks Bowers August 2012 Philadelphia ANA Auction where it realized $129,250 (Auction Record). When offered as lot 1194 in (Stack's) session of Auction 84, the coin was described, in part, as: "Prooflike surfaces and needle-sharp in strike. In the cataloguer's opinion, this is the finest known and more than likely struck for presentation as the first year of issue of the Carson City mint. The coin is really perfect..." per Stacks Bowers cataloger (8/12).

    1861 MS65 Cert #81226399 Morelan Specimen (Replaced 12/2018) This GEM has a PCGS POP 3/3 that Morelan described as: Completely original with moderate to thick toning over near perfect surfaces. After a 6-to-12-month stint, the Morelan coin was replaced in the core collection. The coin was sold on Nov. 10, 2019 by David Lawrence Rare Coins in Internet Auction #1090 realizing $61,500. The cataloger described the coin as: An absolutely gorgeous example from the Civil war period. The surfaces are completely original with moderate blue, rose, and green tints. A low mintage of 77,500 coins struck. CAC approved for quality. The Hansen collection houses another MS65 examples as well as the finest graded MS66 example for the date. The other MS65 that is currently in the #2 Hansen set is described as Dazzling Brilliant-White Gem Unc 1861 Seated Dollar (Stacks Bowers 8/2011). The core coin is a PCGS sole finest 1861 MS66 Cert #02070132 purchased in December 2018 from US Coins.

    1863 MS66, CAC, Cert #21572855 Morelan Specimen (Replaced 3/2020) This GEM has a PCGS POP 4/1 that Morelan described as: Beautiful velvet mint frost graces the devices. The fields are free of contact marks with only a few scattered lines limiting the grade. Very flashy. In 3/2020, the Morelan coin was replaced when the PCGS sole finest was acquired by David Lawrence Rare Coins for the core collection. The PCGS Cert #38634068 MS67 coin was from the Brett Pogue Collection and described as Stunning Superb Gem 1863 Silver Dollar. The cataloger described the coin as: This richly and originally toned Superb Gem is truly lovely, with warm steel and pewter gray patina and exceptional undertones of vivid cobalt blue and lilac-purple. Fully struck, highly lustrous, and virtually pristine. Mr. Hansen was able to acquire this Pogue Specimen for $108,000. The Morelan specimen is currently in the #2 Hansen set.

    1850-O MS63 Cert #21572870 Morelan Specimen (Replaced 7/2022) This choice GEM is the fourth Morelan coin to be replaced. The MS63 has a PCGS POP 4/2 that Morelan described as: The Norweb specimen. An extremely rare date in unc, this coin has abundant luster and eye appeal. In 7/2022, the Morelan coin was replaced in the core collection with one of the two MS64 specimens. The coin was acquired from Rare Coin Wholesalers. The PCGS Cert #42594092 MS64 coin was from the Rod Sweet Collection and described as Incredibly Rare MS64 1850-O Seated Liberty Dollar. The Morelan specimen is currently in the #2 Hansen set.

    With four coins replaced in five years, says a great deal about the incredible set of 44 coins that was built by Bruce Morelan over many years. The four replacements coins were three PCGS POP 1/0 Sole Finest Specimens and one POP 2/0 coin. Maybe more importantly, 43 of 44 Morelan coins are still in the D.L. Hansen Collection. Let’s look at this latest replacement.

    1850-O Seated Dollar, MS-64 PCGS, Ex: Ex: Rod Sweet

    Tied Finest PCGS Certified

    Expert Q. David Bowers Comments: This is the second New Orleans issue of Liberty Seated silver dollars. 40,000 were struck (compared to only 14,000 1850-O gold dollars). Circulation was intended to be domestic and probably was primarily in the Mississippi Basin. At the time, river trade was burgeoning, and silver coins of all denominations were in strong demand. Walter H. Breen suggests that bullion dealers may have melted many 1850-O silver dollars. If you want a Mint State 1850-O dollar for your collection, I suggest that you compromise and acquire an EF or AU instead, at least as an interim strategy, for it may be years, if ever, until you can buy a nice Mint State coin. Examples are few and far between.

    Of the two PCGS MS64 coins, the other specimen may be considered by many as the finest. The coin is CAC Approved and still in an OGH-First Generation. Before the Hansen coin was crossed over to PCGS, the other coin was cataloged as the finest PCGS certified for many years. It also holds the auction record of $141,000 obtained in Legend’s Regency Auction in July 2022. The Hansen Specimen has not appeared in auction since 2012 as MS64 NGC Cert # 3416412-002. Therefore, it is difficult to compare auction results.

    In the 2012 auction, Heritage cataloger described the date and mint as: The New Orleans Mint struck four dates in the Liberty Seated dollar series, all before the addition of the motto IN GOD WE TRUST in 1866. Of those four, the 1859-O and 1860-O are common, by the measure of the series, in Mint State. However, the 1846-O -- and especially the 1850-O -- are seldom encountered in Uncirculated grades. Only 40,000 pieces of the 1850-O were struck. In the March 1979 Gobrecht Journal (as quoted in the Bowers silver dollar reference), Bruce Lorich wrote of his review of 100 years of auction records, concluding that Mint State specimens of the 1850-O appeared less often at auction than any other Seated Liberty dollars except the 1855, 1870-S, 1871-CC, and the "non-existent 1873-S." The Bowers reference also says "... it may be years, if ever, until you can buy a nice Mint State coin. Examples are few and far between."

    The coin is described as: The present near-Gem offers light copper-gold and steel-blue toning near the borders. The fields and devices are nearly brilliant, with a slight golden cast. The strike is good if not complete, with slight softness seen only on the eagle's head and a few star centers. Abundant luster emanates from both sides, and there are light signs of die rust noted in the upper left reverse field. As a final note, the CAC POP reports one MS64 (the previous mention OGH specimen) and three MS63. One of the three MS63 CAC coins is the Hansen/Morelan Specimen that is currently in the Hansen #2 set.

    Provenance: Rod Sweet Collection (Bowers and Merena, 7/2005), lot 1047, realized $29,900; Long Beach Signature Auction, (Heritage 2/2006), lot 1657; Signature Auction, (Heritage, 7/2006), lot 2653; realized $37,375; Central States Signature, (Heritage, 4/2009), lot 2575, realized $21,850; US Coins Signature Auction, (Heritage, 8/2012), lot 5186, realized $23,500; Internet Coin Auction, (Heritage, 11/2012 as MS64 NGC Cert # 3416412-002), lot 26972, realized $24,675; Purchase in Private Transaction from Rare Coin Wholesalers (7/2022), D.L. Hansen Collection.

    1850-O Seated Dollar, MS-64 PCGS
    PCGS POP 2/0, Tied Finest Certified by PCGS
    Certification #42594092, PCGS #6938
    PCGS Price Guide $125,000 / Unknown
    Ex: Rod Sweet

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
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    CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why in the world did Hansen pass on the 1850o $ (ex. Stephen Petty) that Legend sold recently? That coin was stunning and CAC approved too.

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    shishshish Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's not my story to tell, rest assured that it went to a very good home. B)

    Liberty Seated and Trade Dollar Specialist
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    CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Currin Thanks for the PM.

    The petty 50o $ was an incredible coin and was one of my favorites while lot viewing. I actually sent a video of her to the winning bidder. It went to the right home! 🤫

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    CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Liberty Head $2-1/2 Gold with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes (1840-1907)

    "The true scarcity of this and other very rare Philadelphia Mint gold coins is sometimes lost because of the focus most collectors give to the popular branch-mint issues. The 1865 quarter eagle is much rarer than some of the more-sought-after Southern gold rarities." - Jeff Garrett and Ron Guth wrote in their Gold Encyclopedia

    PCGS Registry describes the Liberty Head $2-1/2 Gold with Major Varieties set as: This is one of the longest-lived series in all of numismatics, beginning more than two decades before the Civil War and lasting into the 20th century. It is a challenging but not impossible set, with the ultra-rare 1854-S being the number one key. Charlotte and Dahlonega gold coins are sprinkled throughout the set, adding greatly to the appeal. Of course, there are some tough-to-locate pieces from New Orleans, San Francisco and Philadelphia, too. Now, by adding the varieties in this set, it’s even longer (more coins) and tougher to complete. The 1843-C Small Date is always scarce and popular, as are the reverse varieties of 1859, 1860 and 1861 and the ultra-famous and historic 1848 CAL. If you’ve gone far enough to complete the basic set, you'll definitely want to add these significant varieties!

    The D.L. Hansen Collection of Half Eagles get a lot of love. In 2022, the quarter eagles did receive a little love too. At the start of 2022, the GPA with bonus of the 147-piece set of Hansen Liberty Head Quarter Eagles was 60.846. By year end, that the grade for the set was 61.602, almost a full point increase. In reviewing the history of the set, 24 coins were upgraded in 2022, representing 16.3% of the set. With all the upgrades, the D. L. Hansen Liberty 2 1/2 Gold (2nd Set) is coming along nicely. It is over 89% complete and rank #4 in that All-Time list behind Harry W. Bass and Louis Eliasberg.

    D.L. Hansen started 2022 with a large purchase of nine quarter eagles from Rare Coin Wholesalers. They were all condition census PCGS Top Five coins with the 1842-O the best graded sole finest PCGS POP 1/0. This set up for a good year for the quarter eagle set. Now, let’s look at the details in the set. Other than being All-Time number #1, these are the other key indicators in the Hansen 184-piece set:

    14 Coins - PCGS POP 1/0, Sole Finest, highlighting the amazing 1842-C, PCGS MS65, CAC.
    27 Coins - PCGS Tied for Finest Certified, highlighting the incredible 1862, MS64+ CAC, POP 2/0.
    32 Coins - PCGS Certified One Finer, highlighting the astonishing 1841, AU58, POP 1/1.
    46 Coins - PCGS Condition Census Top Five, highlighting the remarkable 1854-S, VF-35 CAC, POP 2/2

    This impressive set is 80.95% PCGS condition census top five. Of the non-CC specimens, the bottom five coins with the highest PCGS POP are:

    1841-D, VF-35 CAC, PCGS POP: 4/47
    1843-C Small Date, XF-45, CAC, PCGS POP: 8/29
    1894, MS64, PCGS POP: 28/28
    1883, MS60PL CAC, PCGS POP: 1/24
    1885, MS62+ CAC, PCGS POP: 1/16

    As you can see, the set still has a ways to go and the 28 coins that are not condition census which makes prime candidates for upgrading. Let’s review the feature coin for today.

    1865 Liberty Head Eagle, PCGS MS61

    One of Two Mint State by PCGS, None at NGC

    Expert David Akers wrote: Like the 1864, the 1865 is extremely rare as a nonproof. Of the 25 appearances at auction in our 226 catalogue survey, only 10 were busienss strikes. I have never seen a mint state 1865 and, in fact, have seen less than a dozen nonproofs in all. Although its mintage is greater than for either the $3 gold piece or half eagle of the same date, the quarter eagle is significantly more rare than either of those two denominations in nonproof condition. The 1865 and 1864 are two of the rarest dates in the entire series and, disregarding proofs, have actually appeared at auction less often than any other quarter eagle except the 1804 13 Star Reverse and the recently discovered 1862/1.

    This coin is not well documented from online sources except for Doug Winter. He penned an article in 2012 titled: Assembling a Year Set of Civil War Gold Coins, Part Four: 1865. For the 1865 Quarter Eagle he wrote: The final quarter eagle of the rare three year run from 1863 to 1865, this issue has an original mintage of only 1,520 plus 25 Proofs. It is not as rare as the 1864 quarter eagle but it is a very difficult coin to find with few than three dozen known in all grades. The 1865 is unique in Uncirculated with a single MS63 graded at PCGS. The next best available coins are a small group of AU58's, which are currently valued in the $20,000-25,000 range depending on quality. This is a nearly impossible coin to find with original color and surfaces and it is actually a bit more difficult to find with good eye appeal than the more acclaimed 1864. For a high quality Civil War set, finding a choice AU55 to AU58 would be an impressive accomplishment.

    In 2008, he pinned another related article titled: The Ten Rarest Liberty Head Quarter Eagles. In the article he stated: Due to the fact that it has a mintage of just 1,520, some people have assumed that the 1865 is a rarer date than the 1864. This is not the case as the 1865 appears to have a slightly higher survival rate. My best estimate is that there are 25-35 examples known. According to the PCGS Population Report, there is an example graded MS63. I am not aware of this piece but assuming that it exists, it is by far the finest known and it is the only Uncirculated 1865 quarter eagle that exists. Both PCGS and NGC show an abnormally high number of coins graded AU58 and this is as a result of multiple resubmissions. I believe that there are around six or seven properly graded AU’s known as well as another ten or so in EF. When available, this date tends to have below average eye appeal due to very scuffy surfaces. I haven’t seen more than a handful of 1865 quarter eagles that were totally original and choice. At current price levels, I think this coin is excellent value as it is a major rarity that can be purchased in a Condition Census-level grade for less than $20,000.

    A few months ago, an 1865 NGC AU55 CAC was offered on Doug Winter’s website. In this posting, he confirmed the existence of the MS63 PCGS specimen and described the rarity as: The 1865 is the second rarest business strike Philadelphia mint Liberty Head quarter eagle after the 1864. Only 1,520 were made and there are around 30-40 known with most in the EF40 to AU50 range. I sold the only known Uncirculated piece (a PCGS MS63) to a collector many years ago and the 1865 is a strong R-7 issue in AU grades with fewer than 10 properly graded pieces known. This issue has multiple levels of demand as it is sought by Liberty Head quarter eagle specialists, Civil War collectors and individuals who purchase truly rare coins. The Hansen MS61 was known at this writing, but was not mentioned in the Winter description. I would assume that the recent upgrade from a PCGS AU58 to MS61 due to Mr. Winter’s expert eye was not impressed with the upgrade. Also, other than the confirmation of existence, not much else is known about the finest coin. Only additional interesting fact that I can find is that in the 1941 B. Max Mehl sale of the W.F. Dunham Collection, a MS65 specimen described as “Brilliant Uncirculated with Proof surfaces”. The coin realized $42.50. Could it be the MS63 PCGS?

    As for the Hansen MS61, the coin is only the second specimen to be certified mint state by PCGS. In Heritage, 2/2020 Long Beach Expo US Coins Signature Auction, the cataloger wrote: A mintage of just 1,520 pieces and the failure of coinage to circulate in the Eastern two-thirds of the country during the Civil War made 1865 quarter eagles rare from outset, and this Philadelphia date remains extremely rare in all grades today. It equals the scarcity of several branch mint gold pieces of the era, although collectors do not always recognize the fact. This is a nearly Mint State example, with sharply struck devices and reddish-gold patina over semireflective fields. Only a few tiny marks and delicate hairlines are seen under a loupe. The eye appeal is exceeded only by its abject rarity, two factors that argue for a perceptively strong bid.

    The Hansen MS61 PCGS CC#2 coin replaces the PCGS CC#3 coin in the core collection. The previous coin was AU58+ from the Soluna Collection. I would except for see more upgrades to the set in 2023.

    Provenance: Long Beach Expo US Coins Signature Auction, (Heritage, 2/2020 as AU58 PCGS, Cert #38794793), lot 3149, realized $45,600; 4/2022 Purchased by David Lawrence Rare Coins for The D.L. Hansen Collection.

    1865 Liberty Head Eagle, PCGS MS61
    PCGS POP 1/1
    Certification #39155314, PCGS #7801
    PCGS Price Guide $125,500.00 / Unknown

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
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    gnuschlergnuschler Posts: 32 ✭✭✭
    edited December 31, 2022 11:29PM

    @Currin said:
    The Hansen set is 91% complete missing nine coins. There are other collectors that are placing their all-star coins in this set, but none of the others are close to completion. The Black Cat set represented by Laura Sperber, Legend Numismatics is a distant second. Although it is possible to complete this set, I am not sure it can be done due to rarity availability. I would need to study it a little more. There have never been a set completed during the PCGS Registry era, and very possible it has never been achieved. PCGS indicates that it can be completed, so it is worthy to keep an eye on.

    The above is in reference to completing the U.S. Proof Type set. FWIW, I'm pretty sure that Tyrant has actually completed this set, excepting only the large-planchet capped bust half eagle ... a coin that DLH owns (1829 @ PR64 CAC) ... and the small planchet capped bust quarter eagle (both Tyrant & DLH are missing).

    Bass/Simpson sales are featuring:

    • Large planchet half eagle ... 1825/4 @ PR62 (Tyrant needs)
    • Small planchet quarter eagle ... 1834 @ PR62 (DLH & Tyrant need)
    • 1907 Double Eagle ... PR68 CAC (DLH needs ... very likely that EliteCollection will be competing)
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    Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Jesus H - it is going to cost a Billion dollars and I am not joking. I spent over a million and I don't have jack compared, heck that is a single coin. My lord. He has a bunch of my coins that I made - I hope when he is done he has a party where we all can come check it out.

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    AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Currin said:
    The 2022 ANA Auctions – The James R. McGuigan Half Cent Collection (4 of 4)

    Half Cents with Major Varieties, Proof (1831-1857)

    There were several pronounced auctions in 2022 that produced multiply purchases by the DLRC team. Let’s recap a few of the bigger ones. Also, there were a couple private purchases including the Dr. Charles Link Half Dollars and the Wult Morgan Dollars. Here is a quick recap and the number of coins that I featured in 2022.

    The Fairmont Collection-Hendricks Set by Heritage featuring eight coins.
    Dr. Charles Link’s Early Half Dollars by private transaction with DLRC featuring eleven coins.
    Wurt Collection of Morgan Dollars by private transaction with DLRC featuring four coins.
    The 2022 ANA Auctions – Tom Bender Seated Liberty Dimes featuring two coins.
    The 2022 ANA Auctions – The James R. McGuigan Half Cents featuring three coins (four including today).
    The 2022 ANA Auctions – Tom Bender One Dollar Gold featuring two coins
    The 2022 ANA Auctions – Georgia Gold Rush Collection of Dahlonega featuring five coins.
    The 2022 ANA Auctions – Daryl J. Haynor’s Virginian Collection of Classic Gold featuring four coins.
    The 2022 ANA Auctions – Heritage’s 2022 US Coins Signature Auction featuring four coins.
    Historic Harry W. Bass Jr. Core Collection Part I - US Coins Signature Auction featuring eight coins.
    Heritage 2022 Long Beach Expo US Coins Signature Auction featuring two coins.
    Winter 2022 Auctions - The Harvey B. Jacobson, Jr. Collection / Stacks Bowers featuring three coins.
    Winter 2022 Auctions – Fairmont Collection (CBL Set) / Stacks Bowers featuring two coins.

    As stated, 2022 produced some great sales as collections were coming out that had been tucked away in some situations for decades. As for 2023, we don’t have a clue what more to see with the Fairmont Collection. Stacks Bowers is holding information close to their chest on that one. We do know there will be more to come from Bender and Bass Collections starting the January FUN show. Also, we know the Stewart Blay Lincolns will be auctioned by Great Collections in January. He has other great series, but no word if they will be auctioned in 2023 as well. There were collections that were unexpected offered in 2022, as with the Georgia Gold Rush Collection of Dahlonega and the Daryl J. Haynor’s Virginian Collection. Well, see more of this type of high-end coins available in 2023?

    The most valuable 2022 Hansen purchase was the 1861 DCAM Double Eagle. The coin came from the “Important Selections from The Bob R. Simpson Collection, Part VII”. In the Heritage Auction, January 2022 FUN US Coins Signature Sale in Orlando, this PR66DCAM PCGS coin was headlined as: 1861 Double Eagle, PR66 Deep Cameo, One of the Rarest Dates in the Series, Only Five Examples Traced. The coin is also the finest and with a rich history as stated in the listing: The Bob Simpson example presented here is widely recognized as the sole finest extant. It can be traced back to the collection of another Fort Worth oilman, Amon G. Carter, Sr., where the Stack's cataloger called it "A choice example" of "One of the rarest of all double eagle Proofs... ." Ed Trompeter purchased the coin out of the Carter sale. Heritage Auctions purchased the entirety of that collection in 1998, selling off the individual coins privately of the course of a couple of years. This example found its way into the Franklinton Collection. It made its last public appearance as PR67 Ultra Cameo NGC in the August 2006 American Numismatic Rarities sale of that collection, where it was described as: An intensely beautiful gem Proof, a superb coin by any standards. Heavily frosted motifs, blemish free we might add, sit serenely against deep mirror fields, as though chiseled from living gold. An exquisite coin, and easily among the most beautiful gold coins ever seen by the present writer in nearly 20 years of numismatic cataloguing." It realized $1,800,000 with PCGS Value of $840,000 at the time of the sale. The current PCGS value is $2,150,000 with price history chart:

    It is difficult for me to pick one coin in 2022 as adding the most significance to the collection. I tend to lean to coins that are not in the collection which I call expansion coins. I cannot say any one of these that I am mentioning today were more significant than the other because three completed sets and the half eagle is one coin closer. With all the purchases in 2022, the best four coins that come to my mind are:

    1797 1/2C C-3c Gripped Edge, AG3BN. This coin is one of the nicer additions acquired in the James R. McGuigan Half Cent Collection / US Coins Signature Auction. The coin is now the lowest PCGS graded specimen in the Hansen’s 4560-piece US Mint Strike Issues (Core Sets). Before this purchase, it was the only coin missing coin in the 54-piece Hansen Collection of Half Cents with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes (1793-1857). The all-time registry had three collections listed that are 100% completed High Desert, Missouri Cabinet, and Jim McGuigan. With this purchase, D.L. Hansen becomes the 4th completed collector in the registry.

    1852 1/2C, Large Berries (Restrike), PR64+ BN. This coin can certainly be referred to as an ultra-rare Major Variety Proof from the James R. McGuigan Half Cent Collection / US Coins Signature Auction. This was the only proof coin missing the Hansen’s Entire EAC Collection of Proofs. The coin was once in another great collection that was assembled by Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr.

    1798/7 $10 7X6 Stars, F15. This coin finally ended the hunt for the 1798/7 Capped Bust Right Eagle, Stars 7x6 specimen. In fact, this is the last coin needed to complete the 230-piece entire circulating strike eagle core collection. It took Mr. Hansen and his team about six and half years to reach that accomplishment. It may not be the grade he would have desired, but the rarity, the coin speaks for itself.

    1810 $5 Large Date, Small 5, AU53. Although this coin did not complete the five-dollar set, the significance of acquiring this specimen was of great achievement. Maybe the biggest is 2022. The coin from Historic Harry W. Bass Jr. Core Collection is finest of four confirmed examples. It did complete the Type 1, Capped Bust, Large Bust Half Eagles (1807 – 1812) subset. This is an eleven-coin subset of the Capped Bust Half Eagle set. The entire Capped Bust set requires 46 coins including the unique private owned 1822. This set is a subset of the 77-piece early half eagle gold set. The early set is a subset of the 317-piece entire circulating strike half eagle (1795 – 1929) gold collection. The Hansen Collection ends 2022 with three missing coins in the 317-piece half eagle gold set: 1798 Small Eagle, 1820 Curl Base 2, Small Letters, and the famous 1822.

    All four of the coins were significance to reducing the missing coins in the 4560 specimens of US Mint Strike Issues to only 14. This set is slightly different than the Eliasberg quest which has 13 missing. A few coins overlap. It will be interesting to see how aggressive the Hansen Team will be in 2023 and if these numbers can be reduced even more. There will certainly be several once in a lifetime opportunities.

    In retrospection, I believe the James R. McGuigan Half Cent Collection offered in US Coins Signature Auction was a little over shallowed by the other sales during the same time. This 1834 Half Cent, PR65 Red was certainly a coin worthy of a feature post which I missed. I will end 2022 with this POP 1/0, only known red specimen.

    1834 Half Cent, PR65 Red, PCGS CAC, Ex: McGuigan

    The Only Red Proof at PCGS

    In a past Heritage Commentary: Walter Breen suggested a proof population of about 18 pieces in 1983, and Ron Manley concurred with that figure, based on a combined NGC and PCGS population of 19 pieces in January 1997. Today, more than 17 years later, the combined population has increased to 30 proofs. While some resubmissions are inevitable, the proof survival is likely closer to two dozen examples.

    Whether survival is 30, two dozen, or 18, the fact of the matter, there is only one red in all grades for this proof. Heritage also wrote: The best examples of proof 1834 half cents are this piece that is graded PR65 Red PCGS and the Missouri Cabinet coin graded PR66 Red and Brown PCGS (High Desert Specimen). Five others are graded PR66 Brown or PR65 Red and Brown. Richard T. Coleman, Jr. identified the prior provenance of this example from an Al Overton mail bid auction dating to the late 1950s, the provenance presumably provided by William Weber. Dan Hamelberg provided the specific provenance information where the coin was described as Brilliant Red.

    Heritage added: Colorado Springs, Colorado was the home of Albert Charles Overton who was born in Coos Bay, Oregon on May 1, 1906. He entered the coin business in 1940 and conducted more than 40 auctions from then until 1965, including the 1963 and 1965 American Numismatic Association convention sales. He was a past president of the Professional Numismatists Guild. Overton was the author of Early Half Dollar Die Varieties, 1794-1836. He received the ANA Medal of Merit in 1967. Overton died at Colorado Springs on February 11, 1972. Heirs of the Overton estate sold his half dollar reference collection to Sheridan Downey in 1993.

    The Hansen Half Cent Proof set is second in ranking to The High Desert by a good amount. The HD set has a dozen PCGS POP 1/0 specimens compared to Hansen’s six. I would rank the 1834 specimen as the second-best coin in Hansen’s half cent proof set behind the previously mentioned 1852 1/2C, Large Berries (Restrike), PR64+ BN.

    Provenance: Albert Charles Overton (9/1958), lot 169; William Weber (3/1982); US Coins Signature Auction, (Heritage, 8/2022), lot 3124, realized $96,000, D.L. Hansen Collection

    1834 Half Cent, PR65 Red, PCGS CAC
    PCGS POP 1/0, Only Red Proof at PCGS
    Certification #30451311, PCGS #1203
    PCGS Price Guide: $100,000 / Realized $96,000
    Ex: James R. McGuigan Half Cent Collection

    Sweet as! A nice break from the parade of gold.

    Smitten with DBLCs.

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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,522 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Boosibri said:
    You are doing a great job Currin!!!

    I agree. Please keep this going Currin.

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    ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,971 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I enjoy reading this thread and appreciate you taking the time to keep it going!

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    willywilly Posts: 285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I also enjoy this thread and always read the updates.

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    mvs7mvs7 Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of the very few threads I have bookmarked and have read consistently, and have enjoyed for the whole five years. You do a great job @Currin methodically keeping us updated as this great collection continues to grow, and the independent research you do and present is always a must-read.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,917 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Clackamas1 said:
    Jesus H - it is going to cost a Billion dollars and I am not joking. I spent over a million and I don't have jack compared, heck that is a single coin. My lord. He has a bunch of my coins that I made - I hope when he is done he has a party where we all can come check it out.

    It's great that a number of your coins are in the collection now! That's very impressive!

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did he ever match Eliasberg and obtain a “complete “ (by Eliasberg standards) set?

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    edwardjulioedwardjulio Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I enjoy reading your thread and appreciate all your efforts to provide the forum with this information.

    End Systemic Elitism - It Takes All Of Us

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    CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Major Varieties – Countdown 9

    Historic Harry W. Bass Jr. Core Collection Part 2 (12 of 13)

    D.L. Hansen Core Collection of Quarter Eagles

    Finally, the hunt for the last quarter eagle is over. Harry W. Bass Jr. Core Collection Part 2 provided the coin that Mr. Hansen needed to complete Draped Bust (1796-1807) series which was the last coin missing in the 197-piece entire circulating strike quarter eagle core collection. The coin falls a little short (POP 2/7) of being a PCGS Top Five, but six and half years to reach that accomplishment, who’s complaining. For whatever the reason, this has been a tough coin to acquire. As we have seen before, better coins will now come out of the woodwork, maybe.

    As you can see, the quarter eagle collection has 21 PCGS sole finest specimens with 14 specimens from the Liberty Head Set. Another 32 specimens are tied for finest that results in the complete 197-piece set being 26.9% PCGS finest. Maybe more importantly, the Hansen Collection of Eagles are slightly over 76% PCGS Top Five specimens. This is slightly off pace of the entire core collection which is amazingly a little over 80% PCGS Top Five. As many of you know, just because Hansen completes a set does not slowdown or hinders the upgrading. We can expect to see these numbers improve with future upgrades.

    If you have been following this real-time documentation of this historic collection, you will know that the DL Hansen Comprehensive Collection of US Coinage is a collection of registry sets. What I call the US Mint Strike Issues is the core of the collection consisting of 69 sets. At the start of this endeavor, I identified the missing coins needed to complete a collection similar to Louis Eliasberg achievement of a Complete US Collection. As Hansen sets grow over time, Mr. Hansen branched out into the Major Variety sets. Therefore, I created a second countdown list to track the missing major varieties. With the purchase of the 1798 quarter eagle, “Wide Date” variety, the missing count is down to nine coins.

    The Major Varieties Set is an expansion of the PCGS Basic Set. To complete, this set would require the 2821 basic coins plus an additional 439 Major Varieties Coins. With this addition, there are nine remaining collectable coins in this quest. Two coins in The Major Varieties Set are not collectable, 1797 Half Eagle "Large Eagle, 15 Stars" and 1797 Half Eagle "Large Eagle, 16 Stars", so the completion of this set would be 99.94%. PCGS describes this set as: Every classic U.S. coin in Circulation Strike from 1792 through 1964, every date, every Mintmark, every major variety, this set is the ultimate challenge. A collection of this size could take decades to assemble in high grade.

    Top 5
    1861 Double Eagle "Paquet" (2 Known)
    1804 Eagle "Plain 4 Proof" (3 Known)
    1849-C Gold Dollar "Open Wreath" (4 Known w/ one defective)
    1958 Small Cent "Doubled Die Obverse” (3 Known)
    1795 Large Cent "Jefferson, Lettered Edge" (5 Known w/ VF Finest Known)

    Last 4
    1842 Half Dollar "Small Date, Rev of 1839" (Survival est. 10 w/ 1 Mint State)
    1820 Half Eagle "Curl Base 2, Sm Letters" (Survival est. 14 w/ 8 Mint State)
    1798 Dollar "Large Eagle, Knob 9, 4 Lines" (Survival est. 125 w/ 2 Mint State)
    1887/6 Three Cent CN (Survival est. 800 w/ 750 Mint State)

    Spoiler Alert. The last update for the Harry Bass Part 2 sale which will post soon is another count down coin on this list. Watch for the next update. It turned out of be almost a seven-figure coin.

    1798 Quarter Eagle, “Wide Date”, MS60, Ex: Harry W. Bass, Jr.

    Decades ago, Expert David Akers shared some light on this coin: There are two main varieties for this year. the first has a compact date and 4 berries on the reverse. The other major variety, significantly rarer, has a widely spaced date and 5 berries on the reverse. Both varieties of this year have a unique obverse star configuration; namely 6 stars to the left, and 7 to the right. No other date of this type has a similar arrangement. By far, the finest 1798 quarter eagle that I have seen was a gem owned a few years ago by Stack's.

    In a more recent commentary, Gordon Wrubel wrote: There are only two die varieties of 1798 $2 1/2-dollar gold pieces. These are comprised of two distinct obverses and reverses: The Close Date with a 4 Berry reverse, Bass-Dannreuther, BD-1, and the Wide Date with a 5 Berry reverse, BD-2. While both varieties are rare, the Bass-Dannreuther research has shown that the former, BD-1, is about TWICE as rare as the latter, BD-2, in all grades including Mint State.

    I think it would be a fair statement to say this has been a difficult coin for Dell Loy Hansen to obtain. From the standpoint of quantity and fineness, the coin is a little short on quality to be in the Bass or Hansen Collections. Although, the coin fills a need in the Hansen Core Collection, but it is inferior to about 80% of the coins in the collection. On the Harry W. Bass, Jr. Foundation website, there was no mention of quality and grade. The description read as: This is the second variety of 1798 quarter eagle coined, featuring a widely spaced date in comparison with the other variety, HBCC-3005, and five berries in the branch on the reverse. This reverse die was also used to produce certain varieties of dimes from the same era. Dimes and quarter eagles were closely similar in diameter-thus single reverse dies could, and did, serve double-duty. For many years, Walter Breen considered this to be the rarer of the two 1798 die varieties. Later research shows that this variety is actually slightly more common. Approximately 80 examples are known.

    PCGS CoinFacts gives the survival estimate to be 50 in all grades, with nine that are mint state MS60 or above. PCGS shows 24 grading events with three MS61 and four MS62 which are finest. There are two MS60 specimens which one is the Bass/Hansen specimen. In auctions, there have not been a certified coin graded higher that MS62 in history. The most recent auction for a MS62 dates back to Stacks Bowers February 2016 Rarities sale. There was a reference in the sale that the finest certified MS-64, but it is not really clear if the coin is of this variety.

    The Heritage cataloger described the coin as: This rich green-gold example exhibits reflective fields that frame the softly lustrous devices. Scattered marks on each side prevent a higher grade despite exceptional eye appeal at this numerical level. Most of the peripheral design elements are nicely defined while central strike weakness is evident on the obverse.

    As with a couple Bass coins that has been purchased by the Hansen Team so far, I am certain that Mr. Hansen would prefer a better specimen. As I stated earlier, it took Mr. Hansen and his team about six and half years to find a specimen to purchase. They elected not to miss the opportunity for the Bass MS60 POP 2/7. If the opportunity is right, Mr. Hansen may desire to upgrade the coin at some point in the future. At the end of the day, the Hansen Collection can check off the 197-piece entire circulating strike quarter eagle core collection as being completed.

    Provenance: (Stack's 2/1974), lot 496; Gibson and Groves Collections, (Stack's 11/1974), lot 490; Stack's (privately, 12/1974);Harry W. Bass, Jr. Foundation Collection (HBCC# 3006).; The Harry W. Bass, Jr. Core Collection, Part II US Coins Signature Auction / Harry W. Bass, Jr. Foundation Collection, (Heritage 1/2023), lot 9004, realized $84,000; Purchased by David Lawrence Rare Coins (1/2023) for The D.L. Hansen Collection.

    1798 Quarter Eagle, “Wide Date”, MS60
    PCGS POP 2/7
    Certification #46092646, PCGS #45505
    PCGS Price Guide $140,000 / Realized $84,000
    Ex: Harry W. Bass, Jr.
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    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
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    gschwernkgschwernk Posts: 338 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was able to purchase 3 more coins at the fun sale. The collection is now missing 2 coins. I am negotiating to buy a 1798/7 7x6 stars. I have yet to find an 1804 I like in my price range.

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    CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gschwernk said:
    I was able to purchase 3 more coins at the fun sale. The collection is now missing 2 coins. I am negotiating to buy a 1798/7 7x6 stars. I have yet to find an 1804 I like in my price range.

    Thanks for sharing. Great set of early Eagles. As PCGS describes: you have a magnificent collection, indeed. I sure you know already, Heritage Auction is offering The Riverboat Collection of Early Eagles in the Long Beach Auction next month. The 1804 offered is a MS61 PCGS. The Ex: Norweb 1798/7 Eagle, BD-2, AU58 is going to be very pricey. They could complete your collection! Hope you can find the last two coins! Completing this set would be amazing.

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
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    DCWDCW Posts: 6,978 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unbelievable dedication to this thread @Currin !

    This should all be put into a book one day that similar to Eliasberg's "King of Coins."

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,917 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2023 8:41PM

    I keep squinting looking for the S ;)

    Beautiful looking coin!

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    "In the 36-piece set, these seven upgrades represented improving 19.4% of the coins in the basic set. The upgrades did not move the needle on the ranking because the leader board sets are 100% complete. The two new coins moves the completion of the Hansen set to 86.11%. The set currently have 31 of the 36 required coins."

    Looked at the set and the 5 missing appear to be in the HA auction of Bender Part III ending this week (Feb 9). So might be some more updates on this shortly.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=2YNufnS_kf4 - Mama I'm coming home ...................................................................................................................................................................... RLJ 1958 - 2023

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    That 1910 proof $10. Wow! :o

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    edited February 20, 2023 6:41AM

    Barber Quarter Dollar Upgrade

    Barber Quarters Basic Set, Circulation Strikes (1892-1916)

    This set is described by PCGS as: The Barber quarter series contains a plethora of rarities, as 28 different dates have a population of ten or less in MS65 or better condition! The set also contains the lowest mintage regular issue silver coin of the 20th century, the 1913-S. The challenge of this series is legendary, but many collectors have chosen to tackle it over the years, with rewarding results. There are no major varieties for this set.

    The basic set required 74 coins. The D. L. Hansen Collection started this set on 6/8/2017 with 72 coins originally. The original ranking was #6 all-time with a GPA w/ bonus of 65.262. On 6/23/2017, a coin was added to bring the set up to 98.65% completed and GPA w/ bonuses of 65.278. Less than two months later, on 8/10/2017, the final coin needed was added and four others were upgraded. The first GPA w/ bonus for a complete set was 65.346. Presently, more than five years after completion, the set has gone through countless upgrades and 128 revisions. In late February 2018, there were 28 upgrades. This was closely after the retirement and sale of the Perfection quarters. They were not sold to D.L. Hansen. The current GPA w/ bonus has improved to 67.20.

    As reported on Hansen watch in 2018, Mr. Perfection stated: Someone else has the MS quarters. This person had all the top examples CAC that I did not. So he made one set that will never be equaled. It was sad to see them go after so many years. It was very difficult to improve both sets using All CAC coins so I decided to move on. I am still buying gem coins. We now know, the coins were sold to a client of Laura Sperber, Legend Rare Coins. The set is named RSD. In a May 2022 Legend Market Report, Laura provided a very nice tribute to this collector by publishing:

    A HEART FELT CONGRATS TO OUR CUSTOMER RSD

    Legend Numismatics is proud to announce the creation of the RSD Collection of MS Barber Quarters. This is not just any set-it is by far the FINEST that can EVER be built! The set is now posted on the PCGS Registry (#1 all time of course-a full 1.21 ahead of the #2 set) and it has a 68.30 rating. Of the 74 coins in the set a whopping 58 pieces are the finest graded or are tied for finest graded. Legend lives to build sets like this. We expect this set to be eventually be designated HOF. Our long time friend and customer RSD started collecting coins in earnest when he was in his 20’s and started working his way up the ladder in his families company. In his early 30’s he was able to really dive into coins. He is a very quick study and realized 100% PCGS CAC are the ONLY coins he should buy. Sadly, this was inspired by his late grandfather who also loved coins, but had been ripped of by a few dealers and auction houses back in the 70’s+80’s. RSD fully understands the game and what it takes to create a real #1 set. We’re grateful RSD still had the passion. Everyone asks will there be new blood in coins? RSD defines the new younger breed of super collectors. We worked as a team to build the Quarter set.

    Collectors like him allow us to build our numismatic fantasies too. It started slow with the purchase of the Eliasberg 25C 1893O PCGS MS67+ GOLD CAC as a type coin and then when he realized it was a set he wanted to do-he never looked back. If the finest coins were for sale and we liked them our orders were simple-buy them. We proudly bough the 1898O PCGS MS68+ and the 25C 1904O PCGS MS67+ early on. Then he stepped up and bought this favorite coin, the James Stack/Gardner 25C 1901S PCGS MS67+CAC. We got to point where we had stalled out. Luckily Legend had been speaking to Perfection (who is one of the great collectors of today with all his #1 PCGS CAC Sets) and he knew he could not take his MS Barber Quarters any further. Within days, we negotiated the purchase of his set. Adding the remarkable coins RSD had, created what is now by far the BEST EVER MS Barber Quarter set. Congratulations to our good friend RSD! RSD is far from done, he will always be in the hunt to upgrade with PCGS CAC coins. Other sets he has-wild Morgan toners, and he has a complete toned Morgan CC set in MS64+ and better (yes, his 93CC is MS65 and is toned). Time will tell what his next big project will be. Until then, he loves to bring the coins to us, lay them all out on our conference room table and just shake his head and say I can’t believe we did this! That is refreshing to us.

    This is a nice testimony to where the coin collection community is today. The #2 All-Time set is the retired Mr. Perfection set. As Laura stated, and I agree, there is no chance on the D.L. Hansen Collection catching the RSD set unless it comes to market. With Laura describing him as a “new younger breed of super collector”, it is doubtful that will be anytime soon. Although, it appears Mr. Hansen may have a shot at tracking down the #2 retired set of Mr. Perfection.

    1892-O Barber Quarters, MS67, Ex: Duckor / Pogue

    Ron Guth describes this coin as: The 1892-O Barber Quarter Dollar is in the middle of the pack in terms of mintage and overall rarity, and is in the lower half in terms of rarity in Mint State. This means that collectors should be able to obtain a high-grade example of this date with relative ease. Most Mint State 1892-O Barber Quarters cluster around the MS-62 to MS-64 grades, with MS-63 being the most common by a slight edge. MS-65 examples are scarce, but available. MS-66 and better examples are very rare, dropping to a mere three examples graded by PCGS in MS-67. The overall strike is good for a New Orleans Mint product, but still short of the well-made Philadelphia Mint issues. Some collectors pay attention to the placement of the mintmark on the back of Barber Quarters, partly out of interest, and partly as an aid in authentication. In 1892, mint engravers placed the mintmark over the R of QUARTER, unlike the placement on all subsequent years, when the mintmark appears over either the D of DOLLAR or between the R and D (the same is true for the 1892-S Quarter). Why the change was made is unclear, as the placement on the 1892-O and 1892-S Quarters centers the mintmark perfectly beneath the eagle's tail. Since Ron wrote this description, PCGS now show five MS67 in the population report and one MS67+. I cannot verify, but I would assume this sole finest is in the RSD set.

    This new Hansen MS67 coin was attributed in The D. Brent Pogue Collection Part VII sale as Type I Reverse. Repunched Mintmark. In a detail Stacks Bowers description, the cataloger wrote: The first New Orleans Mint issue in the Barber quarter series, the 1892-O was saved in significant numbers at the time of delivery and has long been popular for mintmarked type purposes. On the other hand, survivors are far scarcer than those of the 1892, and in the finest Mint State grades the 1892-O is a formidable condition rarity. The Pogue specimen of the Type I Reverse hub is an example of an unlisted RPM variety, the O mintmark lightly repunched along its right side. Close inspection of the obverse reveals a curious peanut-shaped die chip at the lower corner of the neck, as well as an elongated die chip at the top edge of the cap, just below the letter G in GOD. Interestingly, we are aware of several other high grade 1892-O quarters struck from these dies that have been certified by PCGS, including a MS-67+, a second MS-67, and MS-65+. It appears that a mini-hoard from these dies existed at one time, the coins handled with the utmost care by their previous owners.

    The coin was described in the Pogue sale: Here is a richly original, extremely appealing 1892-O quarter, displaying warm blend of reddish-russet, antique copper, silver-olive and golden-gray patina on both sides. The luster is full and frosty, and the strike is razor sharp from the rims to the centers. Expertly preserved and bordering on pristine, it is little wonder that this coin ranks among the finest examples of the issue known to PCGS.

    More recently, the coin was offered in Legend’s Regency 48 Auction in October 2021. The Legend cataloger described as: One of the greatest 1892-O Barber quarters that survives, with one of the greatest pedigrees of all time, Duckor-Pogue! That this SUPERB GEM graced both those world class cabinets tells you all you need to know about the quality and eye appeal of this beautiful GEM. This coin features the Type 1 Reverse with the repunched mintmark, unlisted in the literature. Both sides are richly toned, exceptionally well preserved, essentially pristine and totally original. A lovely blend of earthy-autumnal hues of olive, russet, orange, gold, and antique silver-gray adorn obverse and reverse, deeper at the rims and lighter in the centers. Sharply struck devices stand out against the satiny brilliant fields. The eye appeal is excellent in every way.

    In January 2023, the coin was offered on eBay by JG Numismatics with ask price of $16,500. “This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available”, per eBay information. It was purchased through David Lawrence Rare Coins. The coin replaces 1892-O MS66 Cert #34533562 with PCGS POP 17/13. Therefor, it replaces one of Hansen’s Non-Condition Census specimens in his core collection.

    Provenance: The Steven Duckor Collection of Barber Quarters / CA Signature Auction (Heritage 8/2009), lot 1089, realized $12,650; The D. Brent Pogue Collection Part VII, (Stacks Bowers, 3/2020), lot 7068, realized $10,800; The Regency Auction 48, (Legend Auctions 10/2021), lot 365, realized $14,687.50; Purchased in Private Transaction by David Lawrence Rare Coins (1/2023) for The D.L. Hansen Collection.

    1892-O Barber Quarters, MS67
    PCGS POP 5/1, CAC Approved
    Certification #44147146, PCGS #5602
    PCGS Value Guide: $17,500 / Ask $16,500
    Ex: Duckor / Pogue

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
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    @Currin said:
    Bottom of the Barrel Upgrade

    U.S. Coins Complete Basic Set, Circulation Strikes (1792-1964)

    This update rekindles some fond memories. In the early days of the Hansen Collection and Hansen watch, there was a lot of focused placed on the U.S. Coins Complete Basic Set, Circulation Strikes (1792-1964). This was the core set of the core collection. The 2821-piece set is complete except for two coins. There has been a realization of late, that this set may never be 100%. The two missing coins are a pair of half eagles. The 1822 dated half eagle is required for this registry set. The only 1822 Half Eagle available to collectors is from the D. Brent Pogue Collection. The coin sold in a Stacks Bowers March 2021 Auction realizing $8,400,000. Dell Loy Hansen was one of the under bidders. This coin will be remembered as the first big missed for the Dell Loy Hansen. Some people do not agree, but I believed that it forever changed the course of this collection.

    The other missing coin is the 1798 “Small Eagle” half eagle. The coin is called one of the famed rarities of the series, but it is obtainable with patience. The Harry Bass specimen will appear in auction in a few months. Is this a coin that the Hansen Team will try to acquire? I think so, but over the past few years, I believe the Hansen philosophy has matured. In today’s term, I don’t think he sees any coin as must have. This really makes opportunities and auctions unpredictable. What he is working on, is to make his coins the finest possible. Let’s see how the score card looks for the 2821-piece set.

    374 Coins (13.3%) - PCGS POP 1/0, Sole Finest, highlighting the amazing 1854-S $5, PCGS AU58+.
    856 Coins (30.3%) - PCGS Tied for Finest Certified, highlighting 1795 $1 Draped Bust, MS66, POP 3/0.
    464 Coins (16.4%) - PCGS Certified One Finer, highlighting the1873-CC 25C No Arrows, POP 1/1.
    604 Coins (21.4%) - PCGS CC Top Five, highlighting the remarkable 1798/7 $10, 62, POP 3/4
    519 Coins (18.4%) – Non PCGS Top Five. Highlighting two coins valued more than one million dollars:
    .... 1927-D $20, MS63, PCGS POP 1/9, PCGS Value $1,850,000
    .... 1794 $1, AU58+ PCGS POP 1/6, PCGS Value $1,100,000

    This is an impressive set to be as large in size and scale as it is. I would value the 2821 piece set somewhere between $125M and $150M. The average coin is a modest $44K to $53K. Keep in my, this is only 2821 coins from a collection that John Brush indicated the size to be 12,000 PCGS pieces. But there more to this collection than price, there is also quality. Let’s take a quality look.

    Top Graded Coins
    .#1 - 1939-D 10C , MS69FB, PCGS POP 25/0
    .#2 - 1849 “Open Wreath” G$1, MS69, PCGS POP 1/0
    .#3 - 1858 G$1, MS69, PCGS POP 1/0
    .#4 - 1892-S $1, MS68, PCGS POP 1/0
    .#5 - 1901-S 25C, MS68+, PCGS POP 1/0

    In this 1964 and before set, the finest graded coins in the collection are three MS69. Two are One Dollar Gold pieces and the third is a MS69FB dime. I have listed as #4 and #5 a couple of my favorite MS68 specimens. One that I did not place on the list was the 1938-S MS68+FB Dime that is PCGS valued at $375,000. There are 242 MS68 coins in this set which could be on this top five list. There are some that are graded MS68+, some with FB, with RD, and FS. The set is not top heavy as some large collections are. There are more than 2800 coins between these five top coins and the five below. There is no doubt that there are great coins from top to bottom. Let’s take a look at the bottom five.

    Bottom Graded Coins
    .#2817 - 1853-O “No Arrows” 50C, VF35, PCGS POP 1/0, (Finest Kown)
    .#2818 - 1847-O $5, VF25 CAC, PCGS POP 4/41
    .#2819 - 1802/0 1/2C, VF20BN CAC, PCGS POP 9/22
    .#2820 - 1823/2 25C, G4, PCGS POP 3/16 , Replaced w/ AU55 PCGS POP 1/2
    .#2821 - 1933 $10, N1 (No Grade)

    The coin I place at the bottom is a beautiful 1933 eagle. The problem with coin is the lady’s cheek looks too good. Hansen purchased this coin in a 2019 auction at a cost of about $300,000. The 1853-0 is at the bottom of the set, but the VF35 is the finest known specimen. As the set improves, this coin could end up being the lowest graded coin. The 1847-O half eagle and 1802/0 half cent are prime candidates for the next round of upgrades. For now, replacing the 1823/2 25C, G4, was a great accomplishment. Let’s take a look at the coin.

    1823/2 Capped Bust Quarter, AU55, Ex: Benson / Elwood

    “If a collector were asked to name the four rarest American silver coins, he would, I am sure, naming them in the order of their denominations, say: the 1804 dollar, 1823 quarter, 1827 quarter, and 1802 half dime.” — Harold P. Newlin, 1883

    Lots of things have changed in the past 140 years. These four coins are still considered rare today, but a true discussion would have to add the ultra-rare 1870-S half dime and the 1873-CC No Arrows Dime. Denis Loring CoinFacts comments: According to Steve Tompkins' recent reference, 31 examples of this famous rarity are known. I'd guess there are a few low-grade ones yet to be discovered. The finest seen is a gem Proof with a pedigree tracing all the way back to Levick. Two Mint States are next, followed by two AU's (one from Norweb) and four XF's, including Eliasberg. More than half of the known specimen's grade VG or lower. Steve Tompkins specially refers to the Norweb specimen as an AU. The Dr. Charles Link specimen was once MS61 NGC when sold in the Eugene H. Gardner sale. In Dr. Link’s comment on his coin he states: Finest Known and only uncirculated circulation strike of the 31 known specimens.. PCGS has graded the coin AU58+ which cannot get any closer to a mint state. I believe Dr. Link, and I would agree that his borderline MS is the finest mint state and nearest coin that we will find to uncirculated circulation strike.

    PCGS CoinFacts gives the survival estimate to be 33 in all grades with two coins grading mint state MS60 or better. There are no present-day mint state certified specimens. PCGS has certified 19 specimens with three graded AU, one AU55, one AU58 and finest known AU58+. NGC total population is only six. Of the six, three are AU certified, two AU50 and one graded AU58. I am able to identify five of the six but was not able to identify the AU58 NGC. Either it is completely off the grid, or it is a duplicate. I created a roster of what I have found to be the top five about uncirculated examples of the 1823/2 Capped Bust Quarters.

    My Roster of Significant 1823/2 Capped Bust Quarters (Mint State) by Currin

    1. Bland / Gardner / Link Specimen, AU58+, PCGS Cert #25207750. - Harlan Page Smith (S.H. and H. Chapman, 6/1906), lot 775, Realized $360; S.H. & H. Chapman sold privately; Virgil Brand Collection (Journal # 33225); Hollinbeck-Kagin (11/1973), lot 1140; Summit Rare Coins sold privately; Chris Napolitano, sold privately in 7/2005; Eugene H. Gardner Collection, Part II / US Coins Signature Auction, (Heritage 10/2014 as MS61 NGC, CAC), lot 98346, realized $188,000; Dr. Charles Link PCGS Registry Collection

    2. Norweb-Pogue Specimen, AU58 PCGS Cert #12136338. - An unknown Massachusetts collection; Charles J. Dupont and Charles Anderson of Worcester, Massachusetts; Anderson-Dupont Collection, (Stacks 11/1954), lot 1798; Mrs. Emery May Norweb Collection; Norweb Collection, Part II, (Bowers & Merena 3/1988 as Raw AU50), lot 1538, realized $28,600; Fred Matthews Collection; The Chris Schenkel Collection, Bowers and Merena, 11/1990), lot 1432; Unknown intermediaries; Charlton “Swampy” Meyers Collection, via Sheridan Downey; D. Brent Pogue Collection, Part I, (Stack’s/Bowers & Sotheby’s 5/2015) lot 1072, realized $246,750.

    3. Benson / Elwood / Hansen Specimen, AU55 PCGS Cert #04664906, - Probably B.G. Johnson and Virgil Brand; C. David Pierce Collection / 1947 ANA Convention Auction (Numismatic Galleries, 8/1947), lot 914; Edgar Levy Collection; Edgar Levy Collection, (Abe Kossoff, 5/1955), lot 16; Benson Collection; Benson Collection, Part II, (Ira & Larry Goldberg, 2/2002), lot 694, realized $56,350; ANA auction, (Superior Galleries, 8/2002), lot 860, realized $46,000; Steve Elwood; Jim McGuigan, sold at the 2003 FUN show; Regency Auction 54, (Legend Auctions, 9/2022), lot 93, realized $146,875; Purchased in Private Transaction by David Lawrence Rare Coins (12/2022) for The D.L. Hansen Collection.

    4. Boyd / Eliasberg Specimen, AU50 NGC Cert # 3031943-002. - F.C.C. Boyd; "World's Greatest Collection" (Boyd), (Numismatic Gallery, 3/1945), lot 82; Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr.; The Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection, Part II, (Bowers and Merena 4/1997 as Raw AU50), lot 1386, realized $27,500; unknown; Denis Loring, August 2007; Rarities Night / ANA Auction, (Heritage , 8/2021), lot 4062, realized $96,000.

    5. Allison Park Specimen, AU50 NGC Cert #Unknown - The Allison Park Collection, (American Numismatic, 8/2004), lot 341, realized $69,000.

    The Hansen AU55 specimen is squarely in the middle of the condition census top five. The coin can be traced back to the early years in the B.G. Johnson and Virgil Brand Collections. In 2002, Ira & Larry Goldberg Coins & Collectible handled the coin in the sale of the Benson Collection. In Sale 13, Lot 694, the coin was graded PCGS AU-55 and cataloged as: This is certainly one of the very finest known of this supremely rare date, high in the Condition Census of the top six specimens all behind the single Proof example known. The strike is extremely sharp, and this is an early die state before the crack appears right of the date up to the center dot on Liberty, as seen on a few lower grade examples, which no doubt account for the rarity of this date. Perhaps 20 are known in all grades. Breen, in his Encyclopedia, individually lists 13 examples, with just 3 that can be called EF or better. Reviewing the PCGS and NGC Population reports seems to indicate that several are known, PCGS notes 2 in AU-55, and one in AU-58, none in Mint State above while NGC shows 1 as AU-55, 1 as AU-58 and 1 as MS-61, and the sole Proof as PF-64. With the cluster of high grade specimens reported, we suspect that there may be some duplication in the two reports, and a days study with a good coin auction library would certainly nail down the number of high grade examples known once some plate matching is done from prior auction sales. Toned a deep blue gray color, with moderate handling marks on both sides from very brief circulation. Identifiable by a small cluster of microscopic scrapes below Liberty's ear, and a few ticks between stars nine and ten, and some faint parallel scrapes above the Y of LIBERTY in the folds of the cap. On the reverse, we note some tiny marks below the wings of the eagle near the juncture with his body. Currently in PCGS holder #4664906. An extreme rarity in any grade, and especially this nice. Better than the recent sale of the Eliasberg example, this coin should have a higher technical grade, with less wear on the high points. A foremost opportunity for the Bust quarter specialist, and a date which has been offered a couple of times in the past six years.

    More than 20 years later, the coin appeared in Legend’s Regency Auction 54 sale. The Legend cataloger called the coin a rarity and explained why: Legend Rare Coin Auctions is honored to offer one of the greatest rarities of the Capped Bust quarter series, the 1823/2 quarter. Depending on which census you consult, this coin is either the 3rd or 4th finest known from an entire known population of 30 or 31 examples. Mint records from the year show 1,800 delivered on February 3, 1823 and an additional 16,000 were delivered on December 31. Scholars in the series believe that the actual mintage of 1823 quarters were those delivered in February, and since no records show a mintage of quarters in 1824, it is thought the 1824 examples were minted late in 1823, and none were struck in 1824. Since the quarter denomination had been sporadically produced, and in smaller numbers than the half dollars, the 1,800 mintage of 1823 quarters went into circulation and remained there for ages. The entire 1823 mintage was produced from a single pair of dies, the obverse left over from 1822 and a 3 was punched over the final 2. The Browning-1 die marriage, with 30-31 known in all, this is an extremely RARE and important Rarity-6+ die marriage, missing from most collections of early quarters. The average survivor is apt to be heavily worn and/or damaged in some way. Coins graded VF or XF are eagerly sought by serious collectors of means, and precious few survive in high grade. Behind the Proof 64, an AU58+, and an AU58, comes the presently offered PCGS AU55, and housed in the same old green tag holder it was in when it made its first modern auction appearance as part of the Benson Collection in February 2002. It has been in the same collection since January 2003, and thus is totally fresh to the numismatic market!

    The Legend cataloger continued by describing the appearance of the coin as: The surfaces are distinctly Prooflike, as to be expected of a die pair that was also used to strike a Proof example. Being high grade, the minimal amount of circulation failed to take off that delicate finish from the fields. Both sides are deeply and attractively toned in a deep blue-gray patina with iridescent olive, rose, russet, and dark golden-brown accents that come out when rotated in a light. The details show full and crisp definition, with barely any perceptible wear of any kind. In comparing the photos of the AU58 and AU58+, the reverse definition on this AU55 is fuller and shows more complete detail on the eagle's wing feathers. (Indeed, the cataloger of the 2002 Superior ANA Auction specifically noted that this coin was "finer than the R. Henry Norweb specimen" which ended up in the D. Brent Pogue Collection as PCGS AU58). When you look closely at the surfaces of both sides, you will see some minor traces of contact, which are noted for accuracy and will serve as pedigree markers on this very CHOICE AU example. The eye appeal is incredible for the date, which often times does not "come nice."

    As Legend’s described, this is a very nice choice AU example. Replacing the existing PCGS G4 specimen was certainly a nice improvement in the core collection. If Mr. Hansen decides to keep, the G4 will make a nice addition to his #2 Set.

    Provenance: See #3 Above

    1823/2 Capped Bust Quarter, AU55
    PCGS POP 1/2
    Certification #4664906, PCGS #5334
    PCGS Value Guide: $175,000 / Cost Unknown
    Ex: Benson / Elwood


    Image appreciative of Legend Auctions - Regency 54, Lot 93 (9/8/2022)

    The #3 specimen of the 1823/2 quarter I believe came from Eye Appealing Coins, who purchased it in the previously mentioned Legend sale.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

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    CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s Raining Proof Three Dollar Gold, Part 1: 1854-63

    An unprecedented number of Proof Three Dollar gold pieces has provided collectors with a bounty not seen since the late 1990s and early 2000s. By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com, Published in CoinWeek, March 20, 2023

    In this recent article, Mr. Winter continues by stating: Four important specialized sets of Proof Threes–owned by Tom Bender, the Harry Bass Foundation, Peter Huberman, and Bob Simpson–have given specialists an opportunity to bid on multiple examples of rare, low-mintage issues that haven’t been available in years. Many of these were of remarkable quality, and a number were the finest known or very close to it.

    There is no questioning the fact that Dell Loy Hansen has used this opportunity to build a foundation to a high-quality set that can one day be in the conversation with the four important specialized sets mention by Mr. Winter. With this addition, the set is only four coins short of a full house of Proof Three Dollar Gold. There are still some additional Harry Bass coins to be sold in the next few weeks.

    Mr. Winter continued his discussion by referencing several historic collections: Back in the late 1990s and early 2000s, there were a number of wide-ranging specialized Proof gold collections–including Pittman, Bass, and Childs–that hit the market one after the next. Some incredibly rare Proof issues in the half eagle, eagle, and double eagle denominations were suddenly available – some in multiples numbers. An issue like the 1868 eagle (to pick a random date/denomination) was offered twice (an NGC PR64 CAM and a PCGS PR65) in 1999. Since then, exactly two have appeared: one a PCGS PR60, the other a PCGS PR62. Around 2000, the “uncommon” seemed “common” when it came to Proof gold.

    He continues by describing the current sales as: In 2023, we are seeing a similar situation on a more series-specific basis: Proof Threes. This “Throwdown of Threes” allows me to make some important observations on this series. In the following two-part article, I’ll discuss some of the coins which have sold thus far (we still have a few coins left from both the Bender and Bass collections) and put them into a context within the framework of this fascinating series. Please note that, due to time constraints, I won’t be discussing the common dates of this series.

    This coin that we see today is one of those “Throwdown of Threes” and is mentioned in the article. The Simpson Specimen was sold AUG 22, 2022. At the time, it was described by Heritage Cataloger as: Eight to 10 Coins Extant, Sole Finest at PCGS. Since this sale, there has been the Harry Bass grading event that change the PCGS status of this coin and many others. The four remaining Proof Three Dollar Gold pieces need in the Hansen set is the 1857, 1858, 1871, and 1873.

    It appears that Mr. Hansen skipped the last Bender Three Proof Sale that was held by Heritage Auction in February at Long Beach Expo. With missing this sale, can he still complete the Three Dollar Proofs in 2023? Not as confident as I was a few months ago. Even if not this year, then it will be interesting to watch to see if DL Hansen can complete the proof set in the near future. This will place the Hansen name in the record books with the likes of Bass, Bender, Garrett, Trompeter, Eliasberg, Huberman, Simpson and not to forget the Smithsonian National Numismatic Collection.

    1861 Three Dollar Gold, PR65CAM, Ex: Rod Sweet / Simpson

    Eight to 10 Coins Extant, Sole Finest at PCGS

    The year 1861 was an important one in the three-dollar gold series, as Dave Bowers and Doug Winter explain in their 2005 series reference, The United States $3 Gold Pieces, 1854-1889. It was the last for which: " ... gold coins were paid out at face value by the Philadelphia Mint. After this time, $3 coins did not circulate at all in the East and Midwest. Small supplies were held by bullion dealers, banks, and exchange offices, and after December 28, 1861, could be bought by paying a premium in terms of paper money." Heritage Cataloger (8/2023). The Simpson PR65CAM specimen held the honor of "Sole Finest at PCGS" prior to the Bass grading event.

    Expert David Akers wrote a few decades ago: The 1861 is possibly the most underrated three dollar gold piece in proof in the entire series. (A similar claim could be made for 1861 proofs of the other gold denominations as well.) The generally accepted proof mintage figure for this date is 113, but it is probable that, if 113 is the correct mintage, most of the pieces were subsequently melted. Probably less than ten proofs are known today, placing proofs of this date in the same rarity class as those of 1857 and 1858. PCGS CoinFacts gives the survival estimate to be 12 in all grades with one PR65 PCGS grade and two GEM CAMs. One is the Hansen/Simpson PR65CAM and the other the Harry Bass PR66CAM.

    In Mr. Winter’s recent article, he wrote for the 1861 Three Dollar Proof:

    As with the 1860, you can’t judge the rarity of this date by its original mintage. A total of 113 Proofs were struck but fewer than 10 are believed to survive today. The Bass coin is the numerically finest at PCGS, while the Simpson coin which was offered by Heritage in their 2022 ANA auction brought $132,000. It was graded PR65 CAM after having originally been graded PR66 by NGC.

    Bass: PCGS PR66 CAM. Will be sold later this year. Should set a record for the date.

    Bender: PCGS/CAC PR64+ CAM. While the Heritage images made this coin look very spotty, it was much nicer in person. I liked this coin very much and felt it was totally deserving of its “+” grade. I bid up to $50,000 but was unsuccessful, as the final price was a strong $78,000 including the buyer’s premium.

    Huberman: Didn’t own a Proof.

    I had thought Mr. Hansen and the DLRC team purchased the Simpson coin in the Heritage 2022 ANA Sale. After more than six months later, the registry was updated this week. What was the cause of the delay? Did someone else purchase the coin and it was purchased privately? Without updates from DLRC, we may never know. At the end of the day, the coin is now in the DL Hansen Collection.

    Heritage Cataloger and Mr. Winter is in agreement of only 10 coins survived. David Akers thought it to be less than 10 and PCGS CoinFacts indicates 12. The Heritage Cataloger stated: A total of 5,959 circulation strikes and 113 three dollar gold proofs were manufactured in 1861. John Dannreuther explains that while the 1860 and 1861 claim similar proof mintages, "the number of extant coins is less for the 1861." He pegs the surviving population at just eight to 10 pieces. The reason for the massive discrepancy? Most of the mintage was melted as unsold in January 1862, with the outbreak of the Civil War having put "a damper on collecting" at that time.

    It appears the Hansen/Simson coin is a solid condition census top three. It probably falls as CC#2 between the Bass Top Coin and the Bender Specimen with all three in recent grading events. The new Hansen coin is described in the auction as: The Bob R. Simpson specimen in PR65 Cameo certainly ranks among the finest known and may very well stand alone atop the Condition Census. It is the sole finest at PCGS, having been crossed over from a PR66 Cameo NGC holder. There are still two such grading events reported at that service, but they may represent a single coin (this one). Both sides exhibit profound depth of mirroring in the fields and frosty relief elements over light yellow-gold surfaces. A planchet void below the left side of the wreath bow serves as a pedigree marker.

    Provenance: Ex: Rod Sweet Collection (Bowers and Merena, 10/2004 as PR66 NGC), lot 559, realized $57,500; Important Selections from The Bob R. Simpson Collection, Part IX / US Coins Signature Auction (Heritage, 8/2022 as PR65CAM PCGS), lot 1348, realized $132,000; D.L. Hansen Collection

    1861 Three Dollar Gold, PR65CAM
    PCGS POP 1/1
    Certification #44160843, PCGS #88024
    PCGS Price Guide $155,000 / Realized $132,000 (8/2022)
    Ex: Sweet / Simpson

    Link to It’s Raining Proof Three Dollar Gold
    https://coinweek.com/us-coins/its-raining-proof-three-dollar-gold-part-1-1854-63/

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,615 ✭✭✭✭✭

    43% of the U.S. circulation strike set is finest or tied for finest. That is staggering.

    Don't forget the J.P. Morgan collection of proof gold coinage at the ANS.

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