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  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 26, 2022 8:17PM

    Outstanding Wurt Collection of Morgan Dollars, Part 4

    One thing I love about @DLHansen's collecting is that he collects all eras of US coins.– Zoins (August 5, 2022)

    As the Hansen Collection starts to reach maturity or puberty, I am not sure which, we will slow our focus on individual coins, and dive deeper in The Collection of Sets. The current Hansen set count in the PCGS Registry is 1908. That is too big to tackle. So, how do the Morgan Dollars stand? Today, we will see the significance that the Hansen Morgan Set has in his Collection of Silver (Large) Dollars. You will see that the 21 coins purchased from the Outstanding Wurt Collection of Morgan Dollars really helps to bring the Morgan’s in greater alignment with the Hansen’s other dollar sets.

    As Zoins stated, it is true that Mr. Hansen collects all eras, but also all US Issus by denominations. It even goes further that that. Since the Hansen Collection purchase of Dr. Charles Link’s Early Half Dollars with Major Varieties (1794-1807) set a few months ago, I had the pleasure to read most the public writings that Dr. Link has shared the past four decades working on his collecting. As I have stated once before, he wrote: My set goals have always gravitated towards completing entire sets, compared to some collectors content with high grade coins whom avoid some true rarities that can only be obtained in lower grade. This two word phase “Entire Sets” have stuck with me. In studying the Links Sets, I believe in his great collection, it refers to this formula for collecting early US issues.

    Basic + Major Variety + Proof = Entire Set

    In Mr. Hansen’s public statements, he talks mostly about his Basic - Hall of Fame Set from 1793 to Present. In his recently NNP interview, he seemed focus on the basic set. In the past, I have thought this HOF basic set as the core of the collection and the rest of the collection (thousands of coins) as supplemental. As of late based on success in recent acquisitions, there is an apparent focus is on the “entire collection”, which consist of the core, including major varieties and proofs. For the first time, I have looked at a denomination, i. e., the Silver (Large) Dollar Collection as an entirety. The findings are interesting.

    The D.L. Hansen Entire Collection of Silver (Large) Dollars

    The tables consist of an “Entire Collection” of Large Dollars 1794-1978. Including Major Varieties, the entire set consist of 262 Mint Strike and 102 Proof Finish, totaling 364 coins. The Collection of Dollars is only missing nine coins, with Mint State Set only missing one. I will save the discussion on the Proof Finish sets for another day, and focus on the Mint Strike, consisting of six sets loosely based on PCGS Registry Major Varieties Sets. What I mean by loosely, I have added a couple important missing coins. Let’s look at them in detail.

    Early Dollars with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes (1794-1803)

    This set requires 36 Coins. PCGS describes the set as: This is one of the "Dream Sets" of American numismatics, with the classic 1794 rarity, the two 1795 types (Flowing Hair and Draped Bust), the transitional coins of 1798, and lots (and lots!) of important varieties. The silver dollar is perhaps the most popular of all numismatic collectibles, and the Bust Dollars rival the large cents as the most popular of the early coins. Return with us to the days of Washington, Adams and Jefferson and enjoy building this historic set! The Hansen Set is currently second in ranking following the retired Miller Collection Set. The Hansen Set is missing the 1798 Large Eagle, Knob 9, 4 Lines. Once the coin is added to the set, I have confidence the Hansen Set will be Registry #1.

    Liberty Seated Dollars Basic Set, Circulation Strikes (1840-1873)

    This set requires 44 Coins and there are no Major Varieties required. PCGS describes the set as: This is one of the most challenging of all 19th century silver sets. The coins are big and heavy, leading to lots of bagmarks on most surviving mint state examples. In addition, rare dates abound, including the ultra-rare 1870-S, the tough Carson City issues, the rare dates in the early 1850s-the list could continue. Collectors usually choose to buy two examples of this series, one "No Motto" and one "With Motto." A complete set? A great joy and an even greater challenge! The Hansen Set is currently #1 All-Time Registry Set. DLH purchased the HOF Bruce Morelan Collection of Mint State Seated Liberty Dollars in the early 2018 timeframe. I refer to this set as a “Masterpiece Set”, due to 100% of the coins are Condition Census Top Five, including 86% of the set is Sole Finest or tied for PCGS Finest. Since the 2018 Morelan purchase, the Hansen Team have replaced four of 44 coins, improving three coins to sole finest PCGS POP 1/0 specimens and the fourth a POP 2/0.

    Trade Dollars with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes (1873-1878)

    This set requires 18 Coins. PCGS describes the set as: A short but extremely challenging series that is LOADED with condition rarities. In fact, none of the coins can be called "common." The stoppers of the series include the 1875, 1876-CC, 1877-CC, and 1878-CC, but many other dates could be added to the list depending on the condition. This is one of America's most historic and interesting coins, and in gem condition it is beautiful as well. The Hansen Set is currently #3 All-Time Registry Set, but actually the two top sets are one and the same. This top set is the HOF Legend Set that was assembled by HOF(er) Bruce Morelan. The set was sold intact to another collector in the late 2018 timeframe. Oddly, this set has 17 coins out of the 18 required coins PCGS certified as Pop 1/0 sole finest. The HOF “Masterpiece Set” set have 15 of the 18! This leaves very little for the Hansen Team to work with, although the Hansen Set have six coins that could be upgrade to at least Condition Census. The Hansen Team continues to work with the set upgrading two specimens in recent months.

    Morgan Dollars with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes (1878-1921)

    This set requires 117 Coins. PCGS describes the set as: What is it about Morgan silver dollars that brings out the demand for the best? Is it the romance of the Old West? Is it the memory of going to the bank to get a silver dollar to rattle around in your pocket? Is it the challenge of finding big, heavy coins that aren't peppered with marks and abrasions? Whatever the reasons, there have been some fantastic sets of Morgan dollars assembled in recent years, filled with coins of amazing quality and rarity. The rarest dates of the series in top condition include the 1884-S, 1886-O, 1889-CC, 1892-S, 1893-S, 1894-O, 1895-O, and 1896-O. The Hansen Set with the Wurt Morgan Dollars purchased is now #2 All-Time Registry Set, snuggling in behind the Illinois Set. This has been our feature set in past few days. With the Wurt purchase, the set has improved to approx. 75% Condition Census, with 32.5% being Top Pop PCGS. With two additions from Wurt, the set have eleven PCGS POP 1/0 sole finest Morgan Dollars. On the downside, 25% of the set is still non-condition census specimens that are itching for replacement.

    Peace Dollars, Circulation Strikes (1921-1935)

    This set requires 24 Coins. PCGS describes the set as: Silver dollars may forever be the most collected United States coins. Though not as popular as its Morgan dollar predecessor, the Peace dollar is still extremely popular with collectors. The series is relatively short, especially when compared to the Morgan series. This is not say that the series is an easy one to complete. The keys to the series in MS65 or better are the 1924-S, 1925-S, 1923-S, 1927-S, and 1928-S. Peace dollars were often poorly struck, and combined with a lower-relief design there are far fewer high grade examples than one might expect. In gem quality the Peace dollar is a beautiful coin! The Hansen Set is the #3 All-Time Registry Set, trailing PCGS HOF California 1 set. Since the retirement of California in 2015, the Hansen Set and M. E. Lesniewski set has been having a little back and forth battle for #2. Currently, Lesniewski has a slight upper hand placing Hansen in third. They both still has a way to go to close in on the California 1 Set. The Hansen Set has two coins that are not condition census, 1924-S MS65+ PCGS POP 13/6 and 1926-D MS66+ PCGS POP 51/13. This set could be the next Hansen “Masterpiece Set”.

    Eisenhower Dollars with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes (1971-1978)

    This set requires 23 Coins. Sadly, the large dollars ends with this series. PCGS describes the set as: I like Ike! The political buttons of the 1950s became the coin collectors' cry of the 1970s, and it's still true today. This popular series remembers the U. S. president and military general on the obverse and commemorates the moon landing and/or the bicentennial on the reverse. Examples were struck in copper-nickel clad and silver clad. The Hansen Set is currently #1 All-Time Registry Set. DLH purchased the Linda Gail Set in the mid 2019 timeframe. Currently, 18 of the 23 coins in the Hansen Set has a Linda Gail pedigree. The set has 15 of the 23 coins tied for finest known (65%) and 95% of the set is Condition Census. The only coin that is not Condition Census is the 1974-S Silver MS68+, PCGS POP 10/8. If this set could pick up one or two PCGS POP 1/0 Sole Finest, and upgrade the 1974-S Silver to MS69, the set could certainly be a “Masterpiece Set of Ike’s”

    1886-O Morgan Dollar MS65, CAC, Ex: Wayne Miller Plate Coin

    This coin has come and gone in vogue(est) a few times. The MS65 specimen has the greatest PCGS Price Guide Value of all the two dozen coins in the Hansen – Wurt purchase. PCGS Registry weight this coin as “eight” which places the coin in solid top 12 for 117 piece set. Q. David Bowers wrote: Apparently, high-grade Mint State coins were not always considered to be rare, and in 1982 Wayne Miller, who had recently purchased 80 fully-struck Uncirculated coins, called the issue "the most over-rated of the rare date Uncirculated Morgans," further noting that the "enthusiasm for this date has approached hysteria in recent years." It appear to be back in vogue.

    The last 1886-O Morgan Dollar MS65 sold in auction was a Heritage Sale, February 2022 Long Beach Expo US Coins Signature. Heritage described the date as: The New Orleans Mint concentrated all its resources on striking Morgan dollars in 1886, when a huge mintage of more than 10.7 million pieces was accomplished. The coins were delivered in large batches throughout the year, with a steady stream of 900,000-1 million pieces produced every month. Unfortunately, the 1886-O was not a well-made issue. The dies were often spaced too far apart, in order to reduce die wear during the enormous press runs, and many survivors are softly struck in consequence. Insipid mint luster and excessive surface marks also plague this issue. A number of coins (probably 2-4 million examples) were released into circulation at the time of issue, and the 1886-O is easily located in circulated grades today. The majority of the mintage was held in government storage and most of those coins were probably melted in 1918, under the provisions of the Pittman Act. A few bags were paid out in the 1950s, but they attracted little attention and were quickly absorbed in the market. The 1886-O was not well-represented in the Treasury releases of the 1960s, alerting collectors and dealers to its elusive nature in high grade for the first time. Third-party grading has established the 1886-O as a leading condition rarity in the series over the last 35 years. PCGS has graded only three coins in MS65 (one of those in 65+), with a single MS67 Deep Mirror Prooflike example finer, while NGC has graded no specimens finer than MS64 (1/22). The non CAC specimen realized $156,000.

    Since January, the MS65 POP has ballooned from two to six, with no change in the top two coins. I wrote extensively about the Stacks Bowers November 2020 Auction of The Larry H. Miller Collection of Morgan Dollars. In that sale, the Hansen Collection had the opportunity to obtain the top coin, Jack Lee MS-67 DMPL (PCGS). CAC, a coin Wayne Miller described as "The Most Spectacular Morgan Dollar Now Known". I am a sure the Hansen Team chased the coin, but it finally sold for Auction Record of $780,000. The second finest, MS65+ CAC, is an Ex: Eliasberg / Coronet / Illinois Specimen that last appeared in auction in 2015. The coin is currently available on Barry Stuppler’s website with an ask price of $450,000. Mr. Hansen has added several of Illinois Specimens to his collection, but passed on this one. Was he waiting for the Wurt CAC Specimen? We do not know the price paid for this MS65 CAC, but I am sure the team was excited about having the opportunity to pick up Condition Census 1886-O Morgan last week.

    Provenance: Wayne Miller Plate Coin, Wurt Collection (PCGS Set Registry), David Lawrence acquired at American Numismatic Association's World's Fair of Money in offering by Mike's Coin Chest; D.L. Hansen Collection.

    1886-O Morgan Dollar MS65
    PCGS POP 6/2, CAC Approved
    Certification #43830711, PCGS #7168
    PCGS Value Guide: $285,000 / Purchased Shaun Bobb of Mike's Coin Chest
    Ex: Wayne Miller Plate Coin / Wurt PCGS Registry Set

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    An 1886 O PCGS MS65 (no cac) sold yesterday (Aug 24, 2022) and the price and link below.

    $168,000 including buyer's premium.

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/morgan-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1886-o-1-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-7168-/a/1348-3969.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed

    RLJ 1958 - 2023

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 26, 2022 12:46PM

    @lilolme said:
    An 1886 O PCGS MS65 (no cac) sold yesterday (Aug 24, 2022) and the price and link below.

    $168,000 including buyer's premium.

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/morgan-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1886-o-1-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-7168-/a/1348-3969.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

    The Morgan CACs seems to demand a higher premium.

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Currin said:

    @lilolme said:
    An 1886 O PCGS MS65 (no cac) sold yesterday (Aug 24, 2022) and the price and link below.

    $168,000 including buyer's premium.

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/morgan-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1886-o-1-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-7168-/a/1348-3969.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

    The Morgan CACs seems to demand a higher premium.

    Oh absolutely on the price difference between the CAC and non-cac price. I was just pointing out that one sold the night before since you reported the last one to sell was Feb 2022.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_KWVk0XeB9o - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Piece Of My Heart
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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed

    RLJ 1958 - 2023

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,786 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ... Now that Bender is out, the next biggest player in this series is the Seated Liberty Specialist Gerry Fortin. He may have very well have been a big bidder on some of the Bender rarities.

    Yes, Gerry wrote this in his blog:

    In terms of the Tom Bender Family Heritage auction and my targeted Seated dime lots, I won two out of five and was the under bidder on the three lost lots. My primary target was the finest known 1868 dime which hammered at $24,000. Yes, it is shades of 2004 all over again....

    I did manage to win the 1869 and 1888-S dimes as yet another incremental step in the core collection's improvement journey.

  • PhilLynottPhilLynott Posts: 890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Always interesting how these mega top pop coins get valued. Obviously both are fantastic coins but I'd much rather own the 1853-D $1 than the 1875 $1 and it went for 65% of the cost.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes! Dahlonega gold! B)

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 2022 ANA Auctions – Georgia Gold Rush Collection of Dahlonega Coins (2 of 5)

    Liberty Head $2-1/2 Gold with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes (1840-1907)

    This is one of the longest-lived series in all of numismatics, beginning more than two decades before the Civil War and lasting into the 20th century. It is a challenging but not impossible set, with the ultra-rare 1854-S being the number one key. Charlotte and Dahlonega gold coins are sprinkled throughout the set, adding greatly to the appeal. Of course, there are some tough-to-locate pieces from New Orleans, San Francisco and Philadelphia, too. A few collectors have completed this set in the past and now it’s your turn! On February 28, 2012, PCGS announced that after two years of research it has been determined that the Philadelphia Mint struck both circulation strikes and proofs in 1841. Up until this point it was thought that only the 1841s were minted. This set includes not only the rare 1854-S, but the ultra-rare 1841. By adding the varieties in this set, it’s even longer (more coins) and tougher to complete. The 1843-C Small Date is always scarce and popular, as are the reverse varieties of 1859, 1860 and 1861 and the ultra-famous and historic 1848 CAL. If you’ve gone far enough to complete the basic set you'll definitely want to add these significant varieties! - PCGS Registry

    Almost three years ago, the D.L. Hansen Quarter Eagle Liberty Head Set move into first place in the PCGS registry in the October of 2019 and have not looked back. According to my count, approx. 40 – 45 coins has been upgraded since reaching the top spot. Besides being in #1 spot and 100% complete, some of the other key indicators in the 147-piece set are:

    14 Coins PCGS POP 1/0, Sole Finest, including 1842-C, PCGS MS65, CAC
    26 Coins PCGS Tied for Finest Certified, including 1862 PCGS MS64+, CAC, POP 2/0
    31 Coins PCGS Certified One Finer, including 1865 PCGS MS61, POP 1/1
    47 Coins PCGS Condition Conesus Top Five, including 1854-S, CAC PCGS VF35, POP 2/2

    The set is 80.3% PCGS Condition Census, with 27.2% Finest PCGS. The set still have 29 quarter eagles that are not condition census which makes prime candidates for upgrading. The lowest graded and highest POP coin in the set is the 1841-D PCGS VF35, POP 4/47. The Georgia Gold Rush Auction offered the Pittman Specimen of the 1841-D Quarter Eagle, MS-61. Would be a great condition census coin for the Hansen Collection. The major problem, it is graded MS61 by NGC. It appears the Hansen Team save this upgrade for another day.

    When viewing the PCGS Registry All-Time ranking, a couple things are obvious. Three of the top five sets are historic, including Harry W. Bass Hall of Fame Gold Collection. Also, you can see the numismatic icon Louis Eliasberg has a set listed, and 150+ year old Smithsonian National Numismatic Collection. In completing the top five all-time, you will find two D.L. Hansen sets. Amazingly, the second Hansen set has passed the Smithsonian National Numismatic Collection and have sights on the Louis Eliasberg set. The Hansen second is astounding. The key indicators in the 147-piece second set are:

    2 Coins PCGS Tied for Finest Certified, including 1902 PCGS MS68, POP 2/0 (Hansen has both)
    6 Coins PCGS Certified One Finer, including 1854-C PCGS MS62, POP 5/1 (Hansen – MS63 POP 1/0, CAC)
    29 Coins PCGS CC Top Five, including 1855-C PCGS MS64+, POP 5/3 (Hansen – MS63 POP 1/0, CAC)
    38 Coins PCGS CC Top Ten, including 1855-D PCGS AU55, POP 8/7 (Hansen – MS60 POP 2/1)

    We are getting close to being able to establish a trajectory of overall quality of the second sets. Currently, the set has 51% of the coins in the PCGS Top Ten, and 25% PCGS Condition Census Top Five, the sights are set fairly high. Can the Hansen second set catch the Harry Bass set, anything possible?

    The D.L. Hansen Collection upgraded three quarter eagles. First, the 1839-D Classic Head that is the feature coin today. In addition to the exquisite 1839-D, the Hansen Team obtained two other upgrades for the Liberty Head Quarter Eagles set. They were both AU58 specimens with only one PCCGS coin graded finer. The 1840-D PCGS AU58, POP 2/1, realized $45,600. The only PCGS certified coin finer is a MS61. 1846-D/D PCGS AU58, CAC, POP 7/1, realized $25,400. Also, this coin has one finer, PCGS MS61. This was a nice little upgrade from Georgia Gold Rush Collection. Also, David Lawrence Rare Coins has upgraded two other Liberty Head quarter eagles in the past couple weeks, including 1848 PCGS MS62, POP 3/2 and 1851-D PCGS MS62+, POP 1/1. I am guessing we will see more in the upcoming weeks.

    Exquisite 1839-D Classic Head Quarter Eagle MS64, Ex: James Stacks / Georgia Gold Rush

    Just a couple days ago, you saw the historic 1838-D Classic Head Half Eagle MS63, Ex: D. Brent Pogue specimen added to the D.L. Hansen Collection. Today’s feature coin is not quite this impressive, but it can certainly carry its weight in gold and maybe some more. There were seven 1839-D Gold Rush Dahlonega Quarter Eagles offered in the sale, and this was by far the most impressive and the most desired. The grades range was VF-20 (PCGS) to MS-64 (PCGS), CAC. The second best was the Green Pond Specimen MS-61 (PCGS) specimen that realized $33,600. When I think of Green Pond, I usually don’t think there is anything better. In this case, the Hansen upgraded, an “exquisite choice uncirculated” 1839-D Quarter Eagle is one of only three graded at this level by PCGS. The coin is an ex: James A. Stack, Sr. Specimen, so that tells you something there. The PCGS POP reports three for this graded, but the Hansen upgrade is finest seen by CAC. One of the other MS64 Specimens is the D. Brent Pogue Specimen that sold in 2015, realizing $105,750. The Pogue coin established the auction record until it was shattered by the Hansen purchase of the Georgia Gold Rush specimen.

    Of all the gold Dahlonega Mint coins sold in the Georgia Gold Rush Auction, this quarter eagle coin realized #7 out of 150 coins. Doug Winter comments: The 1839-D is popular due to its status as the only Classic Head quarter eagle struck at the Dahlonega Mint. It is also the only Dahlonega mint issue of this denomination with the mintmark located on the obverse. The 1839-D quarter eagle is generally seen in Very Fine and Extremely Fine grades. About Uncirculated examples are scarce but are more plentiful than once believed. This date is rare in the higher About Uncirculated grades and it is very rare in Mint State. One superb Uncirculated coin is known. The 1839-D quarter eagle is one of five one year only issues from the Dahlonega mint (the others are the 1855-D gold dollar, the 1854-D three-dollar gold piece, the 1838-D half eagle and the 1839-D half eagle). This has always made it an immensely popular coin. The James Stack coin, now owned by a prominent western collector, is by far the best I have seen. It brought a then-remarkable $55,000 when auctioned in 1994.

    According to the PCGS report, there is a trio of PCGS MS63 examples. The Hansen Upgrade is one, the fore mentioned Pogue specimen is the second, and the third appear to be the Dr. Robert W. Swan/Rod Sweet specimen that was last seen in 2004 in Bowers & Merena Sale. The Stacks Bowers cataloger defines the Hansen upgrade coin as: A lustrous and sharply struck deep rose-orange example with soft honey shades visible under a light. The strike is sharp throughout save for on the very highest point of Liberty's hair curls and at the eagle's dexter shoulder where it meets the shield. Lustrous and frosty with impressively smooth surfaces that border on Gem Mint State quality. Clearly this is a high Condition Census example that would serve with distinction in even the finest Southern gold cabinet. Doug Winter (2003) describes it as "by far the best I have seen" for the 1839-D quarter eagle.

    There are two die varieties for this coin. We may look a little closer at the varieties in the future, but I will add this Stacks Bowers comment: The slightly scarcer of the two known die varieties of this issue, HM-1 is attributable by a strong branch stem and the presence of a berry between the upper and middle leaf clusters. Additionally, the first letter A in AMERICA is repunched. All known examples from this die pairing display several peripheral cracks on the reverse, the most prominent of which originates at the upper border, bisects the first letter T in STATES, and continues to eagle's head.

    Later, we will explore upgrades from of the best and most complete collection of Classic Head Quarter Eagles. For now, you going to have to settle for enjoying this Exquisite 1839-D Classic Head Quarter Eagle.

    Provenance: James A. Stack, Sr. Collection, (Stack's October 1994), lot 859, realized $55,000; Stellar Collection; our (Bowers and Merena, March 2004), lot 2517; our Americana Sale (Stacks Bowers January 2013), lot 13291, realized $105,750; The Georgia Gold Rush of Dahlonega Mint Coinage / The Summer 2022 Global Showcase Auction (Stacks Bowers, 8/2022), lot #6017, Realized $168,000, Purchased by David Lawrence Race Coins for The D.L. Hansen Collection.

    1839-D Liberty Head Quarter Eagle MS64
    PCGS POP 3/0, Finest Seen by CAC
    Certification #05974084, PCGS #7700
    PCGS Value Guide: $150,000 / Realized $168,000
    Ex: James A. Stack, Sr. / Georgia Gold Rush

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • FloridafacelifterFloridafacelifter Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:
    @Currin just an appreciation note for the incredible research, time spent, and skill involved in sharing this information here. As a small time and humble collector, it’s fascinating to become aware of the finest numismatic tier and to begin understand a bit about this level of collecting. Thank you so much.

    I totally agree- I so look forward to your Hansen updates and enjoy them all- and the time you must spend researching and putting them together is impressive!

  • Dr_BonesDr_Bones Posts: 69 ✭✭✭

    @Currin. I also truly appreciate the information. Mr. Hansen does not collect what I do and therefore his collection is outside of the realm of what I am pursuing and normally am interested in. But, I have found your reports to be so informative and educational, it is what I seek out every time I am reading the forums.

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  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the kind words. I do this because I enjoy the study. It is not just about the Hansen Collection (although it is the primary focus), but also community of the finest coins and collections. Many of you are an active part of that community. Many of you are like me and can only watch. I never had the talent to start for a D1 football team, but I still enjoyed watching a couple games today. I enjoy the coins the same way. You don’t have to own the finest to enjoy learning about them.

    Very good collections are appearing more and more frequently. For example, Northern Lights of Vermilion. I have never heard of the collection before the coins were offered by Heritage. I have enjoyed studying the coins being offered. The collection has a couple dozen of really nice coins. Will Hansen buy any coins from this collection; I will have to wait and see as everyone else.

    Lastly, I did a lot of research on 2022 ANA Auctions and sharing what I learned. We have a lot more to see and will take most of September for cover. So, keep watching and let others know what they are missing.

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • gschwernkgschwernk Posts: 348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I second all the comments. I also look forward to your posts. Thanks!

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome coin there!

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 2022 ANA Auctions – Simpson / Bender Capped Bust Half Dimes

    Capped Bust Half Dimes with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes (1829-1837)

    Coinage of half dimes was resumed in July 1829 after a 24-year hiatus. The then-current Capped Bust design by William Kneass (after an earlier design by John Reich) was adopted. Issued for only nine years, this series is a bit unusual in that there are no real "better dates." There are, however, several varieties that are a bit scarcer than the average date. The last dates (1835-37) each have both a Large 5C and Small 5C variety, and the 1835 comes with both a large and small date. None of these varieties are particularly rare and while the 1837 Small 5C is a bit better, it remains quite affordable. - PCGS Registry

    I started this series of updates a few weeks ago with the Bender Seated Liberty Dimes. Also, we reviewed a few nice Bender Gold Dollars. With this post, we will take a quick look at the sale of the Bender Capped Bust Half Dimes. The sale offered a great grouping coin that was once owned by Bob Simpson. The Simpson set remains the all-time finest in the PCGS Registry. The set had six PCGS POP 1/0 sole finest specimens. There are two others tied for PCGS finest grade, and another four with only one coin graded finer. In the Bender sale, there are five of Simpson’s POP 1/0 sole finest specimens offered in a group of fifteen coins. The Bender set did not have the Simpson’s 1834 POP 1/0 Specimen. I am not sure why? Maybe, Mr. Bender did not buy the coin and a couple others.

    In a comparison of the Bender offering to the Hansen set, there was the opportunity to upgrade 10 of the 14 of Hansen’s coins. The purchase of this entire lot of 10 coins for the Hansen 14-coin set would certainly be very appealing. They are less expensive than coins from several of the ANA Sales, especially the gold coins. Although, the Hansen Team did not bid as aggressive in this sale, they were able to obtain only two of the ten desirable coins.

    With just two upgrades, the Hansen 14-piece Capped Bust Half Dime set moved up the PCGS All-Time ranking from seventh spot to fourth. The top current set is The Early American Silver Set that is being assembled by Dr. Charles Link. He has top current Capped Bust sets in half dimes, dimes, quarter dollars and half dollars. The half dime is very close to closing the deal. This composite set requires 154 coins, and both Hansen and Link is complete. The Link sets are much higher in quality and are mostly likely the finest ever assembled. You could say that Mr. Link is “King of Capped Bust”.

    The Hansen Collection has eleven coins in the condition census coin in the upper tier of the set. With the Bender upgrade, the set how has its first PCGS POP 1/0 sole finest specimen. This adds to the existing one tied for PCGS finest. As you can see, the meat of the set is five coins with one PCGS coin finer. This set is an unusual set that has a high ratio of POP 1/0 specimens. In this 14-piece set, there are eleven coins that are PCGS POP 1/0 (78% of the set). With D.L. Hansen having one, the opportunity is there to pick up a few more, but I think the Link set may have four or five of them.

    In the lower tier, that are three non-condition census coins. The Hansen Team missed the opportunity to upgrades these coins. For the pair of 1835’s, the Bender sale had two POP 1/0. For the 1837, a POP 5/1 was available. Three big missed opportunities, for now.

    The Hansen Team purchased the two coins, the 1830 MS68, realizing $78,000. The other was the 1837 H10C Small 5C, MS64, and realizing $9,600. The latter coin is a PCGS POP 6/1. In today feature, let’s look at this 1830 MS68.

    1830 Capped Bust Half Dime, MS68, Ex: Simpson / Bender PCGS Registry Set

    In this sale, the 1832, MS68+ set the sale record for the Capped Bust Half Dimes, realizing $93,000. According the PCGS Auction site, this coin is now in the finest cabinet of Capped Bust Half Dime, owned by Dr. Charles Link. The $93,000 is not just the auction record for date, but also for the for the Capped Bust Half Dime series. There has never been a six-figure coin, but the 1832 PCGS MS68+ came close. The coin is the only PCGS MS68+ specimen making it the sole finest for type. The coin is certainly the centerpiece in the Link Capped Bust Half Dime set and would hold that honor in any cabinet.

    The Hansen 1830 MS68 upgrade realized the second highest price in the 15 Simpson / Bender Capped Bust Half Dimes, realizing $78,000. The coin was headlined as: Ex Simpson-Bender, None Finer at PCGS. The coin joins Hansen’s existing 1832 MS68 creating a pair of top coins in the D.L. Hansen 14-piece Capped Bust Half Dimes with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes (1829-1837). Coin Expert Ron Guth comments: Most dates in the Capped Bust Half Dime series are of equal rarity. The only exceptions are 1836 and 1837, which have lower certified populations than the other dates. Thus, the 1830 is just as good a choice for a type of coin as any other date in this series. Among the certified Mint State survivors, the most common grade is MS-63, followed by MS-62 and MS-64. In grades above MS-66, the 1830 Half Dime is very rare, and the finest example certified by PCGS (as of January 2012) is a single, amazing PCGS MS-68. The Hansen Collection had an MS66+ POP 11/7 which results in a nice improvement to the set.

    From the Bender Sale, Heritage cataloger writes: The half dime denomination resumed in 1829 after an absence of more than two decades from U.S. coinage, having not been struck since 1805. This spectacular 1830 example represents the LM-14 variety, a die pair that produced a handful of remarkably high-grade circulation strikes, but none finer than this sparkling Superb Gem coin. It is, in our opinion, inarguably the finest half dime certified for the date, and one of only a half dozen half dimes to achieve the MS68 PCGS grade level for the entire Capped Bust half dime series. The lightly toned, pearlescent surfaces are needle-sharp and essentially flawless. Faint iridescence imparts colorful accents, subtle yet sublime. This is a coin worthy of the finest half dime set. The coin did not end up in the finest half dime set, instead, the coin is part of one of the finest US Issues Collections ever assembled.

    Provenance: Ex: Bob R. Simpson; Tom Bender; The Bender Family Collection (Heritage Auctions, 8/2022), lot # 3725, Realized $78,000, Purchased by David Lawrence Race Coins for The D.L. Hansen Collection.

    1830 Capped Bust Half Dime, MS68
    PCGS POP 1/0, Finest Certified by PCGS
    Certification #06666540, PCGS #4277
    PCGS Value Guide: $50,000 / Realized $78,000
    Ex: Simpson / Bender PCGS Registry Set

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 2022 ANA Auctions – Daryl J. Haynor’s Virginian Collection of Classic Gold (1 of 4)

    One of the most significant collections of Classic Head gold coinage ever formed – the Virginian Collection – was assembled by Daryl J. Haynor and includes some of the finest Classic Head quarter eagles and half eagles known. The cabinet features Condition Census examples of the 1838-C, 1839-C and 1839-O quarter eagles and both the HM-1 and HM-2 varieties of the historic 1838-C half eagle. Virtually all die varieties among circulation strike issues in this series are represented, including the rare 1835 HM-5 and 1836 HM-9 half eagles. - Stack Bowers (8/2022)

    The sale provided opportunities for a several of firsts. As an example, this is the first time that I have posted a Hansen Second Set. On the September 12 post, we saw the Historic 1838-D Classic Head Half Eagle MS63, Ex: D. Brent Pogue / Georgia Gold Rush. The MS63 specimen went into the Hansen Top set. In the same 2022 ANA Auction week, The Hansen Team purchased a second 1838-D Classic Head Half example. The second (duplicate) specimen was added in Hansen’s second The Classic Head $5 Gold with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes (1834-1838) set.

    As you can see, the second set is 75% complete, missing the 1835 and 1838. Including the Hansen top set, there are currently three complete sets in the Registry. The JD's Classic Head $5 set is a borderline mint state set and the labelman87 is a solid about-uncirculated set. If completed, the second Hansen set should be third behind JD's Classic set. The new 1838-D Half Eagle, MS62 is by far the best second set coin.

    I first noticed the Virginian set a few years ago while reading US Classic Gold Coins of 1834-1839. This book was well done. I have a signed copy of the book by Daryl Haynor. As an enthusiast of finest lists, I really liked Haynor’s Finest Known sections. I noticed the Virginian Collection specimens were mentioned throughout as top five. I did not put the connection of the book author with the Virginian Collection. For this posting, I reread his bio in the book. He discussed that he collected all his life and describes his passion. He also described how his passion led to Classic Gold about twelve years ago. He stated My goal was to put together the finest collection of Classic Gold ever known. Later he concludes by stating Well, after 12 years of dutiful collecting, recent gratitude to a family name Pogue who decided to part with their collection – goal accomplish! The finest known set was completed.

    In this 2020 book release, he goes on to say, And now, the next goal is to assemble the first ever complete collection of Classic Gold quarter eagles and half eagles by die marriage. I am not a specialist of die series, and I am not sure he accomplished his goal. In the Heritage press release, they state: Virtually all die varieties among circulation strike issues in this series are represented. I know the meaning of virtually is almost or nearly. I wish the historic die set could somehow be created in the registry. There are no sets for Classic Gold die varieties, so the Virginian set could be the standard for future collectors. Does anyone have the pull that could make that happen?

    In the 2020 Haynor reference book, he identifies 28 die marriages for quarter eagles and 34 die marriages for half eagles. The total requirement would be 62 coins. The auction offered 58 lots, so certainly at least six of the die marriages are missing from the sale. The grading service breakdown is 56 PCGS coins and two ungraded coins. The 58 lots sale consisted of 26 quarter eagles and 30 half eagles and two “circulating contemporary counterfeit”. The top two coin in the sale was the 1838 Classic Head Half Eagle and 1838-C Classic Head Half Eagle that both realized $264,000. The two coins plowed the path where we saw six Classic Head Coins realizing six-figures. The six coins consisted of two quarter eagles and four half eagles.

    In this sale, I have identified only twelve coins that would improve the D.L. Hansen’s two major varieties Classic Gold that requires 19 coins total. The Hansen Team were high bidder on seven of the twelve, which is a success rate of 58%. This was a very successful auction for the Hansen Collection. There were several significant gold collections offered 2022 ANA auctions. As we saw, the Hansen team fared very well with the Georgia Gold Rush sale and you will see in the next several post, they also did well in the sale of the Virginian Collection.

    Important Mint State 1838-D Half Eagle, MS62, Ex: Green Pond / Virginian Collection

    This coin is an official Hansen duplicate. Even so, of all the Classic Gold coins sold in the Haynor Virginian Auction, this coin realized the sixth highest out of 58 lots. Doug Winter comments: The 1838-D half eagle is a very desirable issue. It is the first coin of this denomination struck at the Dahlonega Mint and the only Classic Head half eagle produced at this facility. It is less rare than one might believe but its popularity makes it one of the most highly valued Dahlonega half eagles. The 1838-D is one of the more available Dahlonega half eagles but its status as a one year type coin and as a first year of issue makes it extremely popular. It is fairly easy to locate in Very Fine and Extremely Fine and lower quality About Uncirculated pieces are available. It becomes very scarce in the higher About Uncirculated grades and extremely rare in full Mint State.

    In Haynor’s Finest Known condition census report, He ranks the top five 1838-D Half Eagle as follows:

    1 - Duke’s Creek Specimen - NGC MS63, Cert #1720159-037.
    2 - Hansen / Pogue Specimen – PCGS MS63, cert #32916358, purchased in Gold Rush Sale.
    3 - Milford Specimen – PCGS MS63, Cert #18214890, housed in billsnotes registry set.
    4 - Hansen / Haynor Specimen – PCGS MS62, Cert #50109812, purchased in the Virginian Sale.
    5 - Michigan Specimen - PCGS MS62, Cert #32231546, housed in labelman87 registry set.

    The Heritage cataloger defines this coin as: One of the most significant offerings from the extraordinary Virginian Collection, this is the CC#4 for the issue in the 2020 Haynor listing and the CC#6 coin in the 2013 Winter listing. Haynor further observes that it is the finest known early die state 1838-D half eagle, with no die polishing to semi-prooflike surfaces. This is a remarkable strike and condition rarity for the first Dahlonega Mint half eagle and the only one of the brief Classic Head design type. Destined for another advanced gold cabinet, where it will serve as a leading highlight. The Hansen cabinet is truly amazing. This coin is going to an advanced gold cabinet, but as a duplicate.

    Heritage describes the coin as: In keeping with the fact that the 1838-D is a better struck issue than its 1838-C counterpart, this piece exhibits razor sharp to full detail to virtually all design elements. The reverse border is soft from 10 to 5 o'clock, however, but this does not interfere with appreciation of the focal features. Exceptionally well preserved for both the issue and the assigned grade, both sides display only wispy hairlines and other, equally light marks from collector handling. Outstanding luster quality ranges from frosty over the design elements to semi-prooflike in the fields. Bright olive-gold color adds to the appeal of this beautiful coin.

    Earlier I promised that we would explore upgrades from of the best and most complete collection of Classic Head Half Eagles. Well, you have seen the first one. It only gets better from here, so keep watching.

    Provenance: FUN Signature / North Georgia Collection, Heritage, (January 1999), lot 7674, Realized $40,250; Long Beach Signature Sale (Heritage, June 1999), lot 6518, Realized $33,350; Green Pond Collection; FUN Signature Sale (Heritage, January 2004), lot 1038, Realized $29,900; Private collector, via Doug Winter; Daryl J. Haynor Virginian Collection / The Summer 2022 Global Showcase Auction (Stacks Bowers, 8/2022), lot 5056, Realized $114,000, Purchased by David Lawrence Rare Coins for The D.L. Hansen Collection.

    1838-D Classic Head Half Eagle, MS62
    PCGS POP 6/2, HM-1, Winter 1-A
    Certification #50109812, PCGS #765270
    PCGS Value Guide: $60,000/ Realized $114,000
    Ex: Green Pond / Virginian Collection

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love the Dahlonega coins! I have a copy of the catalog from that gold rush sale. It’s a great reference.

  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 26, 2022 3:14PM

    The 2022 ANA Auctions – Daryl J. Haynor’s Virginian Collection of Classic Gold (2 of 4)

    "We have handled a small number of coins from this die pair, but the only nicer example, and marginally at that, is the coin we sold in the Fairfield Collection sale of October 1977. This coin is probably one of the two or three finest known of this variety." - Cataloged as part of Bowers and Merena's October 1999 Bass II sale

    In the first update on the D.L. Hansen purchases from the Daryl J. Haynor’s Virginian Collection of Classic Gold, you saw the important mint state 1838-D Half Eagle formerly from the Green Pond Collection. In this update, you will see the third MS65 GEM that is added to the small eight coin Classic Head $5 Gold with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes (1834-1838) Set. In the 2022 ANA Auctions, the Hansen Team purchase four Classic Head $5 Gold coins with three from Daryl J. Haynor’s Virginian Collection and one from John O. Sykes’ Georgia Gold Rush Collection. As you saw last posting, the 1838-D Half Eagle MS62 specimen went into the Hansen’s second set.

    Doug Winter wrote on the set: A basic set of Classic Head half eagles contains eight coins: six issues from Philadelphia (the 1834 is found with a Plain 4 and a Crosslet 4), and one each from Charlotte and Dahlonega. None of these is rare from the standpoint of overall availability, but the two branch mint coins are very scarce in higher grades as is the 1834 Crosslet 4. As a rule, the Philadelphia coins (save for the Crosslet 4) can be located in all circulated grades with relative ease–although finding nice, original high-end About Uncirculated coins, even for the most common issues, can be a challenge. He added: As far as Uncirculated coins go, any Classic Head half eagle is scarce in properly graded MS63, rare in MS64, and extremely rare in MS65. It is likely that fewer than two dozen true Gems are known for the entire series and some dates (1834 Crosslet 4, 1835, 1838-C, and 1838-D) do not exist in MS65.

    In the current PCGS Registry Sets for Classic Head Half Eagles, there are about a dozen sets that are more than 50% complete. Two active collectors have completed sets, D.L. Hansen and labelman87. In fact, labelman87 have two sets that are complete. For five years, from 2013 to 2017, the labelman87 set was awarded top in the registry. The top two sets now, is D.L. Hansen and a set from The Oak Collection (JD's Classic registry set). The Hansen first obtained the top spot in 2018 and received award for top in the registry for 2018 and 2019. Now, this is where things get a little interesting, the Daryl J. Haynor’s was in the PCGS registry using the name ronyahski. They received awards for top in the registry for 2020, 2021, and 2022. I will discuss the ronyahski set in a little more detail next posting when we discuss the All-Time rankings.

    Mr. Hansen purchase three Classic Head Half Eagles from the Virginian Sale. All closed at six-figures. Going into the sale, there were six Virginian half eagle coins that would improve the Hansen set of eight. In successfully acquiring three, the Hansen Team batted 50/50. The three coins that got away, was the 1834 Crosslet 4 MS63 POP 1/1, the 1835 MS64 POP 13/0, and the 1838 MS66 sole finest POP 1/0. For the 1834 Crosslet 4 and 1838, The D.L. Hansen Set currently have nice PCGS condition census examples, so no big lost there. The Hansen set do need to upgrade the 1835, but Haynor coin has 13 specimens tied for finest, so that was not a big lost. The three coins won were prefect for upgrading the set. By replacing an AU50 POP 12/15, and AU58 POP 25/ 13, and a MS64 POP 16/5, they got the best bang for the buck.

    High Condition Census 1836 Half Eagle, MS65, Ex: Bass / Virginian Collection

    If high condition means solid top five or ranked third in Haynor’s Finest Known condition census report, then this coin certain fits the description. In Haynor’s Finest Known condition census report, he ranks the top five 1836 Half Eagles as follows:

    1 - Provenance Unknown – PCGS MS65, Cert #5237310. Graded March 1994.
    2 - Provenance Unknown – NGC MS65+, Cert #3701893-001
    3 - Hansen / Haynor Specimen – PCGS MS65, Cert #07944497, Purchased in The Virginian Sale.
    4 - Belvedere Specimen – NGC MS65, Cert #449876-005
    5 - Estimated 13 surviving in grade MS64(+) - Hansen second coin is MS64, Cert #25633701

    The Heritage cataloger defines this coin as: PCGS and NGC have certified a total of four 1836 half eagles of all varieties in grades of MS-65 and higher, but inasmuch as this is the only example from the HM-8 dies, it is alone at CC#1 for the attribution. Daryl J. Haynor (2020) carries it as the #3 coin in his list of finest knowns for the issue in its entirety, confirming its Condition Census standing by that measure, as well. A prettier and more technically advanced half eagle of this date hardly exists, and this leading rarity from Virginian Collection will be perfect for another world class gold cabinet. This coin is a nice fit in D.L. Hansen World Class Classic Half Eagle Set.

    Heritage describes the coin as: Wonderful surfaces are fully brilliant with frosty yellow-gold luster. The obverse is smooth enough to support an even higher Gem Mint State grade, while for the reverse minor scuffing in the field areas below the eagle's beak and right wing is noted for accuracy. An old friend of our firm, we cataloged this lovely piece as part of our (Bowers and Merena's) October 1999 Bass II sale, in which it was observed that: "We have handled a small number of coins from this die pair, but the only nicer example, and marginally at that, is the coin we sold in the Fairfield Collection sale of October 1977. This coin is probably one of the two or three finest known of this variety."

    In Daryl Haynor publication US Classic Gold Coins of 1834 – 1839 he writes: The 1836 is the second most common Classic half eagle, the 1834 being the most common. An estimated 1,520 specimens survive and are readily obtained, but not in grade above MS62. The Hansen Set has two of the eight coins graded MS62. The other six coins range from MS63 to MS65+. In the next post, we will see how this set ranks in the PCGS All-Time Finest sets.

    Provenance: Stack's, November 3, 1970, via private treaty; Harry W. Bass, Jr.; Harry W. Bass, Jr. Collection, Part II, (Bowers and Merena, October 1999 as PCGS MS64 ), lot 848, Realized $29,900; Long Beach Signature Sale (Heritage, February 2000 as PCGS MS64), lot 6682, Realized $17,538; CSNS Signature Auction (Heritage, April 2008), lot 2437, Realized $74,750; Oliver Collection / Chicago Signature US Coin & Platinum Night Auction, (Heritage, August 2011), lot 7548, Realized $74,750; CSNS Signature Auction, (Heritage, April 2015), lot 5327, Realized $67,562.50; Daryl J. Haynor Virginian Collection / The Summer 2022 Global Showcase Auction (Stacks Bowers, 8/2022), lot 5049, Realized $120,000 (Auction Record), Purchased by David Lawrence Rare Coins for The D.L. Hansen Collection.

    1836 Classic Head Half Eagle, MS65
    PCGS POP 2/0, HM-8
    Certification #07944497, PCGS #765239
    PCGS Value Guide: TBD / Realized $120,000
    Ex: Bass / Virginian Collection

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

    My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
  • neildrobertsonneildrobertson Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2022 2:47PM

    Thank you for the most recent updates.

    The sheer scope of this collection continues to be absolutely staggering. One minute you are talking about census level coins for dimes, and the next it's for quarter and half eagles. Amidst all of that he's competitive on Morgan dollars, which seems to be one of the most competitive spaces in the entire hobby. It's almost difficult to comprehend. Any time I catch myself thinking, "Why didn't he go for this particular coin?" you remember that he has hundreds of other sets to service at the same time.

    Seeing the scope of this collection in more detail through this thread has given me the time to think about the sheer scope and accomplishments of some of the major collections that came before his and it makes me appreciate them all the more.

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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,590 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those Charlotte coins are amazing!

  • tcollectstcollects Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I feel better about my own collecting addiction when reading this thread. It has a calming effect.

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is mind numbing to read these posts considering the scope of what's being undertaken. I often wonder whether Mr. Hansen can truly enjoy each individual purchase given the volume of new acquisitions.

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  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dime Update

    The dime, in United States usage, is a ten-cent coin, one tenth of a United States dollar, labeled formally as "one dime". The denomination was first authorized by the Coinage Act of 1792. - Wikimedia, October 2022

    Now that the posts updating the 2022 ANA Auctions is officially over, I thought I would show everyone a little dime before we jump headfirst in the Bass Gold. If you recall, Mr. Hansen picked up eleven Bender Seated Liberty Dimes, including the 1860-O, MS67 realizing $192,000. That was not the big one. That honor would go to the 1873-CC Arrows, MS65 realizing $552,000. The 1873-CC Arrows is twice more valuable that all of Hansen Roosevelt dimes in his core set. In addition to the Bender dimes, David Lawrence Rare Coins picked up a nice Barber 1904-S, MS66+ specimen along the way. The last recent dime is a beautiful tone 1919-D MS66FB which will be the featured coin today.

    The Entire Hansen Collection of US Issue Dimes requires 505 coins. The collection has 504 coins and missing only the 1870-CC No Arrows. I think Mr. Hansen may be the only collector that is actively assembling a high-end mint state set of US Dimes. There are a few very serious collectors that are working on several sets in the series, but the Dell Loy Hansen is the only collector working on all of them simultaneously.

    Draped Bust (1796-1807)

    The first series is the Draped Bust Dimes. The 16-piece entire set is not as active in the registry as the basic 10-piece set that D. Brent Pogue Collection has locks on. The Hansen entire 16-piece set is #1 followed by Jay Parrino and the Contursi Family. The set is 100% complete with GPA weighted rating of 56.99. The set contains 68.75% PCGS Condition Census Top Five specimens. It has 18.75% finest PCGS certified coins with one coin sole finest, the 1798/7 R-2, 13 Star Reverse, MS63, ex: Pogue. The Hansen Collection has a second set that is 50% complete and is fourth in the all-time registry.

    Capped Bust (1809-1837)

    The king of capped bust, Dr. Charles Link has this series under his lock and key with a stunning #1 set. The Hansen entire 36-piece set is #2 followed by Easton Collection and MJ Sullivan Collection. The set is 100% complete with GPA weighted rating of 63.36. The set contains 61.11% PCGS Condition Census Top Five specimens. It has 13.89% finest PCGS certified coins with one coin sole finest, the 1828 Small Date, MS67. The Hansen Collection has a second set that is 86% complete and is seventh in the all-time registry.

    Liberty Seated (1837-1891)

    The 121-piece Liberty Seated dime set is very competitive at this time. Jason Feldman had commanded this series for most the past decade after creating his registry set in July of 2008. Recently after Tom Bender sale, the Hansen Collection took a razor close lead. It will be seen how long that lead will last. These top two sets are followed by the retired Tom Bender set and the Gerry Fortin Collection. With the exception of the 1870-CC No Arrows, the Hansen set is 100% complete with GPA weighted rating of 63.13. The set contains 72.95% PCGS Condition Census Top Five specimens. It has 36.07% finest PCGS certified coins with 17 coins graded sole finest by PCGS. The Hansen Collection has a second set that is 75.21% complete and is tenth in the all-time registry.

    Barber Dimes (1892-1916)

    The 76-piece Barber Dime set is another very competitive series. Stewart Blay is the king of the hill for almost two decades after creating his registry set in December of 2003. For the past couple years, there have been a little friendly cat and mouse between Blay and Hansen. With Blay’s experience and knowledge in the series, well it not hard to see who plays the role of “Tom”. These top two sets are followed by two retired sets of Bob Simpson and the Law Collection. The Hansen set is 100% complete (plus he owns an 1894-S) with GPA weighted rating of 66.80. The set contains 89.19% PCGS Condition Census Top Five specimens. It has 32.43% finest PCGS certified coins with seven coins graded sole finest by PCGS. The Hansen Collection has a second set that is 100% complete and is fifth in the all-time registry.

    Mercury Dimes (1916-1945)

    The 80-piece Mercury Dime set is a no-win series for D.L. Hansen. In the early days of the collection, this was a series that Mr. Hansen had a desire to build a top set. To build a top set requires about a dozen sole finest specimens. Most of them are locked up in a collection that Laura Sperber, Legend Numismatics, is the agent. The Hansen entire 80-piece set is #2 followed by three famous retired sets: Gerald Forsythe, cmcnutt, and Joshua II Collection. The set is 100% complete with GPA weighted rating of 69.24. The set contains 91.25% PCGS Condition Census Top Five specimens. It has 47.50% finest PCGS certified coins with four-coin sole finest. The Hansen Collection has a second set that is 100% complete and is seventh in the all-time registry. Mr. Hansen has stated that reason he is building sets is because he enjoys it. I think the joy for Mercury Dimes left him for a while. After a year on silence in this series, we saw the first upgrade in July. Now, we have a second in August that will be featured today.

    Roosevelt Dimes – Silver (1946-1964)

    The 48-piece Roosevelt Dimes – Silver is unusual set from a standpoint that Mr. Hansen had the #1 set in the all-Time registry for three years (2017-2019). It is not often that we see him give up his top spot. A set from the Halcyon Collection took the top stop in 2020 and have solidified it. It has been reported by the Roosies Guys that the Halcyon set has enough bonus points that it now out of Hansen’s reach. I cannot confirm, but that does sound about right to me. The Hansen entire 48-piece set is #2 followed by Daniel D. Biddle and two retired sets: Just Having Fun, and Erasmus Hall Collection. The set is 100% complete with GPA weighted rating of 69.80. The set contains 97.92% PCGS Condition Census Top Five specimens. It has 68.75% finest PCGS certified coins with seven-coin sole finest. The Hansen Collection has a second set that is 100% complete and is tenth in the all-time registry.

    Roosevelt Dimes – Clad (1965-Present)

    Currently, the set requires 126 pieces with a couple new coins added each year. As with the silver set, the #1 Set is from the Halcyon Collection. This is not surprising because John Brush told us several years ago that they would not be chasing the sole finest specimens in modern clads. This is the only dime set that is not either #1 or #2 All-Time. The Hansen entire 126-piece set is #4 lead by Halcyon, retired Almighty Dimes, and Daniel D. Biddle. The set is 100% complete with GPA weighted rating of 69.00. The set contains 81.75% PCGS Condition Census Top Five specimens. It has 51.59 finest PCGS certified coins with three-coin sole finest. The Hansen Collection has a second set that is 80.16% complete.

    Summary

    The Hansen Dime Collection is currently 503 pieces with the unique 1870-CC No Arrows missing. The overall set GPA weighted rating is 65.46. The dime series contains 82.77% PCGS Condition Census Top Five specimens. It has 46.93% finest PCGS certified coins with 47 coins sole finest. As you just saw, there is an interesting group of collectors, allies and their agents battling in the series. For most of them, they have only one battle front. For Hansen, he has seven! At this point, I would say that he is winning the battle in two, holding his own in one, and four may be a lost cause at this time. Although, there is room to dig in deeper in each battle front. To today’s feature coin was a very good reinforcement from the supply line that Hansen and his team has brought into the battle.

    1919-D Mercury Dime, MS66FB, Ex: Gerald R. Forsythe Collection

    The 1919-D is not the most expensive coin in the Hansen Mercury Dime set, but I would think it is in the top five. Ron Guth comment: The 1919-D Dime is common in circulated grades but it becomes one of the more elusive dates in Mint State. Approximately 1/4 to 1/3 of the certified Mint State examples qualify as Full Bands, and these usually fetch a hefty premium over the non-Full Bands versions. Interestingly, the 1919-D, 1927-D, and 1927-S are the only dates in the entire series which are not represented by a PCGS-graded MS67 or better example, and that applies to both non-Full Bands and Full Bands. Considering the intense demand for this series, one can only contemplate what such a coin would bring if it ever appears on the market.

    I agree with Ron Guth on the MS67. The finest Mercury Dimes are under the control of the Laura Sperber, Legend Numismatics with most in one of her client’s collection that is called the Mad Hatter. She once stated that this collection had the #1 and #2 All-Time Finest sets in one collection. I know that collection currently has at least two other top pop 1919-D specimens. Being the Hansen coin was also breed in the Sperber stable (Gerald R. Forsythe), it could have also at some point been in that collection or at close connection. Due to this condition, it really makes a limited environment for upgradable Mercury Dimes. A couple years ago, this one slipped away from the ranch and somehow showed up in a recent Great Collections Auction.

    I would think a great effort has been to upgrade one of the MS66 to at least to a plus graded. As of today, that has not happened yet. Is it a matter of time? Maybe. The Hansen Team was able to pick up this nice 1919-D with Full Bands in a Great Collection Auction. The price was $151,875, which seem reasonable at this time.

    Provenance: Gerald R. Forsythe Collection; Great Collections 4/2020: 816113, Realized $126,562; Great Collections 8/2022: 871621, Realized $151,875, D.L. Hansen Collection

    1919-D Mercury Dime, MS66FB
    PCGS POP 7/0
    Certification #38023657, PCGS #4925
    PCGS Value Guide: $175,000/ Realized $151,875
    Ex: Gerald R. Forsythe Collection

    My 20th Century Type Set, With Type Variations---started : 9/22/1997 ---- completed : 1/7/2004

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  • cccoinscccoins Posts: 291 ✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:
    It is mind numbing to read these posts considering the scope of what's being undertaken. I often wonder whether Mr. Hansen can truly enjoy each individual purchase given the volume of new acquisitions.

    I think that to some degree, enjoyment for Mr. Hansen may come in the completion of a set, and from monumental acquisitions, not from every individual purchase. I know it’s that way in some of my purchases for my core collection.

  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 21, 2023 8:10AM

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    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:

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