2021 Morgan and Peace Silver Dollar thread - Flipping Posts Welcome!*

ifthevamzarockin · August 10, 2021 12:13PM

My first order of 3 & 3 took about 7 times at check out but got all 6.

Went back and ordered 3 & 3 it took 2 times at check out and got all 6.

I also have 3 friends that got an order for 6 and some or all of those may come my way.

I'm a happy camper with better than expected results.

RichR · August 10, 2021 12:39PM

I got them in a library using a candlestick!

JBK · August 10, 2021 12:42PM

Just got my confirmation email for the Peace Dollars.

Dirt94 · August 10, 2021 12:43PM

@RichR said:
I got them in a library using a candlestick!

That’s the same way and place Colonel Mustard was murdered! 🤣

Mgarmy · August 10, 2021 1:10PM

Got the final email and saw my three were moved to back order

MsMorrisine · August 10, 2021 1:29PM

@MsMorrisine said:

MsMorrisine · August 10, 2021 1:30PM

CaptHenway · August 10, 2021 1:40PM

I failed the “Are you human?” Test.

dbldie55 · August 10, 2021 1:41PM

@CaptHenway said:
I failed the “Are you human?” Test.

I cheated on it.

originalsandman · August 10, 2021 1:45PM

the full amount hold on my CC is still there from last week...hope it drops off quickly. showing new full amount from today as well.

ECHOES · August 10, 2021 1:52PM

The easiest transaction with the USM,
Order placed and received order acknowledgment by 12:01
Took less than one minute to order one of each, Peace, Morgan
Received order conformation at 14:33. USM103071XX

pointfivezero · August 10, 2021 1:57PM

@ECHOES said:
The easiest transaction with the USM,
Order placed and received order acknowledgment by 12:01
Took less than one minute to order one of each, Peace, Morgan
Received order conformation at 14:33. USM103071XX

The only thing we had in common was ending up with a US Mint order number today.

Mine took 22 minutes of sheer panic, terror and frustration.

Tim

HoneyMarket · August 10, 2021 2:17PM

@pointfivezero said:

@ECHOES said:
The easiest transaction with the USM,
Order placed and received order acknowledgment by 12:01
Took less than one minute to order one of each, Peace, Morgan
Received order conformation at 14:33. USM103071XX

The only thing we had in common was ending up with a US Mint order number today.

Mine took 22 minutes of sheer panic, terror and frustration.

Tim

Sounds like you had something in common with this guy below too...

Conducting a Mint Order with only 2% battery power!

That could definitely induce sheer panic, terror, and frustration (with a sigh of relief at the end!).

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RMLTM79 · August 10, 2021 2:22PM

@ifthevamzarockin said:
My first order of 3 & 3 took about 7 times at check out but got all 6.

Went back and ordered 3 & 3 it took 2 times at check out and got all 6.

I also have 3 friends that got an order for 6 and some or all of those may come my way.

I'm a happy camper with better than expected results.

Your very lucky, you have great friends. I have immediate family that won't do this for me.

Samuel8 · August 10, 2021 2:26PM

@Goldminers said:

@RichR said:
Serious question...has the Mint ever issued clamshell packaging to hold 6 silver dollars? I'd like to get my hand on something like that to house a set of these.

This 2011 set of 5 is perfect for the Morgan's, but I do not know of a 6 coin to hold the Peace.

How about the toning on the coins?

ifthevamzarockin · August 10, 2021 2:39PM

@RMLTM79 said: "Your very lucky, you have great friends. I have immediate family that won't do this for me."

One of them is my neighbor and I have done a bunch of work on his antique motorcycle and other things around the house.
I have never taken 1 cent from him so he was very happy to have a chance to do me a favor.

Also if he didn't I might not work on his motorcycle next time it breaks.

bramn8r · August 10, 2021 2:54PM

I got 3 each today

KISHU1 · August 10, 2021 3:00PM

Are the credit cards being charged now or when they ship the coins
Thanks
Frank D

Liquidated · August 10, 2021 3:00PM

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MsMorrisine · August 10, 2021 3:03PM

@Liquidated said:
and in the event an incorrect number was entered will I have the option to correct prior to any possible cancellation?

subject to debate. many say no.

if you can get them to change it, then let us know!

smuglr · August 10, 2021 3:06PM

@RMLTM79 said:

@ifthevamzarockin said:
My first order of 3 & 3 took about 7 times at check out but got all 6.

Went back and ordered 3 & 3 it took 2 times at check out and got all 6.

I also have 3 friends that got an order for 6 and some or all of those may come my way.

I'm a happy camper with better than expected results.

Your very lucky, you have great friends. I have immediate family that won't do this for me.

@RMLTM79 said:

@ifthevamzarockin said:
My first order of 3 & 3 took about 7 times at check out but got all 6.

Went back and ordered 3 & 3 it took 2 times at check out and got all 6.

I also have 3 friends that got an order for 6 and some or all of those may come my way.

I'm a happy camper with better than expected results.

Your very lucky, you have great friends. I have immediate family that won't do this for me.

Your family must be related to mine lol.

coinandcurrency242 · August 10, 2021 3:08PM

@KISHU1 said:
Are the credit cards being charged now or when they ship the coins
Thanks
Frank D

@KISHU1

They charged me as soon as it went through. It is pending though.

MetroD · August 10, 2021 3:22PM

@KISHU1 said:
Are the credit cards being charged now or when they ship the coins
Thanks
Frank D

Normally, the Mint initiates a pending transaction upon order receipt. They then finalize the charge upon shipment.

In this case, shipping will not be immediate. So, the pending transaction will expire in a few days.

When the Mint actually ships the coin(s), they will post the transaction.

Reference

MrBear · August 10, 2021 3:23PM

@Goldminers said:

@RichR said:
Serious question...has the Mint ever issued clamshell packaging to hold 6 silver dollars? I'd like to get my hand on something like that to house a set of these.

This 2011 set of 5 is perfect for the Morgan's, but I do not know of a 6 coin to hold the Peace.

Cool! I have, like, FIVE of those boxes in the closet...

jmlanzaf · August 10, 2021 3:23PM

@coinandcurrency242 said:

@KISHU1 said:
Are the credit cards being charged now or when they ship the coins
Thanks
Frank D

@KISHU1

They charged me as soon as it went through. It is pending though.

That's a hold not a charge. They only execute the charge when it ships.

SONOMOSCA · August 10, 2021 3:51PM

Can someone explain the photo to me? I don't understand how the Mint charges the CC on failed ordering attempts
and then issues a credit. I'd of thought a charge would only hit the CC when an order is completed and a order number is issued.

JimTyler · August 10, 2021 4:01PM

Card didn’t go through. They immediately hit your card with a hold then charge card when they ship. Same thing happened to me when I used wrong card but the hold on my card looked like your mint page. Wait that is your CC page right ? It looks like it finally went through. You probably tried more than once to place the order

SONOMOSCA · August 10, 2021 4:08PM

@JimTyler said:
Card didn’t go through. They immediately hit your card with a hold then charge card when they ship. Same thing happened to me when I used wrong card but the hold on my card looked like your mint page.

The photo above is a screenshot of my CC account. Only card on file and is always used with the Mint.
Third attempt did work and order confirmation number was issued. Still confused.
I did make multiple attempts and was getting different error pages, but don't understand why a charge occurred on each failed attempt.

JimTyler · August 10, 2021 4:12PM

All’s well that ends well

coinpalice · August 10, 2021 4:14PM

i thought the peace dollars would be selling for more, they are selling in the 160-175 area. i guess the 3 month wait to get the coins is driving prices down somewhat

vinceuher · August 10, 2021 4:20PM

I got one of each. Took me a few times to check out, but finally went through.

MsMorrisine · August 10, 2021 4:27PM

@coinpalice said:
i thought the peace dollars would be selling for more, they are selling in the 160-175 area. i guess the 3 month wait to get the coins is driving prices down somewhat

the 3 month wait is not holding the CC and O back.

The number of BINs in that area is what is doing it.

I'll note there are fewer of these 2 releases than the D & S on ebay

there's over 700 of these and over 1,300 of D & S

RichR · August 10, 2021 4:28PM

Theoretically speaking, of course...would you cancel any of the following orders...or would you sell them on eBay:

Morgan CC 3/2 orders (obviously not)
Morgan O 3/2 orders (obviously not)
Morgan D 3/3?
Morgan S 3/3?
Morgan P 3/3?
Peace 3x3 (definitely not)

WQuarterFreddie · August 10, 2021 4:30PM

@RichR said:
Theoretically speaking, of course...would you cancel any of the following orders...or would you sell them on eBay:

Morgan CC 3/2 orders (obviously not)
Morgan O 3/2 orders (obviously not)
Morgan D 3/3?
Morgan S 3/3?
Morgan P 3/3?
Peace 3x3 (definitely not)

Yes, I think you should cancel all of your orders🤣😂

Tomthemailcarrier · August 10, 2021 4:30PM

@RichR said:
Theoretically speaking, of course...would you cancel any of the following orders...or would you sell them on eBay:

Morgan CC 3/2 orders (obviously not)
Morgan O 3/2 orders (obviously not)
Morgan D 3/3?
Morgan S 3/3?
Morgan P 3/3?
Peace 3x3 (definitely not)

I would NOT cancel. Bide your time. You’ll get over the issue price. They’ll be heavily marketed.

Goldminers · August 10, 2021 4:37PM

@MrBear said:

@Goldminers said:

@RichR said:
Serious question...has the Mint ever issued clamshell packaging to hold 6 silver dollars? I'd like to get my hand on something like that to house a set of these.

This 2011 set of 5 is perfect for the Morgan's, but I do not know of a 6 coin to hold the Peace.

Cool! I have, like, FIVE of those boxes in the closet...

I also have several of these boxes left over from grading hidden somewhere in a box in the garage, which is why I thought of them.

Note the silver eagle coins are 40.6mm or a couple mm larger than the Morgan dollars at 38.1mm (1-1/2 inch), but my Air-Tite holder reference says H38 and H40.6 capsules both have the same outside diameter of 44.45mm or 1-3/4 inch, so there is a chance they may actually fit just fine. This needs to be checked to confirm, but I think it would make a nice display case if it all fits.

edgar · August 10, 2021 4:56PM

@Samuel8 said:

@Goldminers said:

@RichR said:
Serious question...has the Mint ever issued clamshell packaging to hold 6 silver dollars? I'd like to get my hand on something like that to house a set of these.

This 2011 set of 5 is perfect for the Morgan's, but I do not know of a 6 coin to hold the Peace.

I seem to remember back then someone removed the wooden insert and said that 5 PCGS slabs were a perfect fit

SPalladino · August 10, 2021 4:57PM

@MsMorrisine said:

@MsMorrisine said:

Because the adjusted net demand seems to be stabilizing for these, and because all 2021 Morgan/Peace offerings have been released to initial ordering, I wonder if the mint will soon start making the remaining unsold of these (to the product limits) available for purchase again?

edgar · August 10, 2021 5:08PM

I would expect them to wait for fulfillment. since "pre-order" windows are closing. I wonder how many spoiled orders will be returned to inventory, before shipped.

what ever the difference between Pre-Order and Limited means ???

"Remind Me" buttons still there!

Onastone · August 10, 2021 5:08PM

Success here!! Got the Peace Dollar in my bag in 5 seconds flat! After about 30 attempts with the final button, a dozen Prove You're Human, lost pages, signing in three times...got 'em 4 minutes before the Unavailable sign went up.

MsMorrisine · August 10, 2021 5:11PM

@edgar said:
I would expect them to wait for fulfillment. since "pre-order" window has closed. I wonder how many spoiled orders will be returned to inventory, before shipped.

I wonder how many failed flips there will be, if any.

Joe_360 · August 10, 2021 5:18PM

I am not sure yet...

We are processing your recent order placed with the United States Mint. You will receive a confirmation email with more details within 24 hours.

morgansforever · August 10, 2021 5:23PM

Went for the Peace buck first, got 3 in the first few minutes, then on to the Morgan, which took me 15 minutes of page not found, press n hold if you're human and suspecting me of using automation tools to order. No tools, software or tickery, just me and my company supplied phone on the side of the road, boasting 2 bars and sometimes 1. Managed to get 3 Morgans, it was rough though, guess persistence pays off.

Golden1 · August 10, 2021 5:39PM

I think the 2021 Peace Dollar is going to be an amazing coin to own, too bad we have to wait so long to get them.

A little history on the original 1921 Peace Dollar:

THE 1921 PEACE SILVER DOLLAR
Thanks to another provision of the Pittman Act, the Peace Silver Dollar came to fruition. The US needed to replace the lost coins after the war. However, there was no approved design when the time came for the new coin. As a result, the Morgan Silver Dollars briefly resurfaced in 1921 but were replaced by the end of the year by the Peace Silver Dollars.

A competition helped the US decide on the new design for the obverse and reverse of the new silver dollar. Anthony de Francisci entered the competition, and his Peace Silver Dollar design won. His wife, Teresa Cafarelli de Francisci modeled as his Lady Liberty. This romantic story is the result of her childhood attachment to Lady Liberty. The statue in NYC was the first piece of the US she laid eyes upon when her family immigrated over. So, she posed for him in the way she viewed the statue as she entered the US for the first time at the age of five.

The new design was not implemented until the end of the year because of a design discrepancy. The Peace Dollars were made from 1921-1935, produced by the Philadelphia, Denver, and San Francisco Mints.

WHY WAS PRODUCTION OF THE 1921 PEACE SILVER DOLLARS DELAYED?
The reverse of the Peace Silver Dollar actually sparked some controversy. The accepted reverse we know today bears a bald eagle clutching an olive branch in its talons. It sits atop a rock as the sun rises. The original illustration, however, features the eagle with a broken sword. Because this coin was meant to celebrate the victory of the Allies of WWI, the broken sword seemed inappropriate as it is often a mark of defeat. So, the US Mint had to postpone production of the Peace Silver Dollars until the end of the year. This gave them time to fix the dies—by hand—used to strike the coins.

The Peace Silver Dollar is the only classic circulating US silver coin struck with high relief. Therefore, the 2021 Peace Silver Dollar will feature the same high relief, as the first coin. But, back then, this level of relief led to production issues. Because of the high pressure necessary to achieve the high relief, the dies often broke. So, the December 1921 Peace Silver Dollar has a relatively small mintage of just over one million. When comparing it to the silver Morgan dollars, this Peace Silver Dollar is extremely rare. The US Mint decided to lower the relief of the coins, which is why the mintage of the Peace Silver Dollars ballooned in 1922 with over 50 million coins. This was the most for this coin in its history.

https://bullionexchanges.com/blog/2021-peace-morgan-silver-dollars/

Goldbully · August 10, 2021 5:45PM

Used two windows with Firefox. One with the Morgan the other the Peace.

Pitted the two against each other until I got the desired result.

Took seven tries against the BAD gateway.

Order hit at 12:06pm EST.

Just got my confirmation at 8:02pm EST.

WAYNEAS · August 10, 2021 5:46PM

I do believe that using a gift certificate makes this process so much easier.
Wayne

djm · August 10, 2021 5:48PM

@Goldminers said:

@RichR said:
Serious question...has the Mint ever issued clamshell packaging to hold 6 silver dollars? I'd like to get my hand on something like that to house a set of these.

This 2011 set of 5 is perfect for the Morgan's, but I do not know of a 6 coin to hold the Peace.

There is also the 8 silver dollar coin clam shell for the 1995-1996 Olympic Silver dollars.

MilesWaits · August 10, 2021 5:52PM

So, who is getting up early to try again??!

djm · August 10, 2021 5:56PM

@SONOMOSCA said:
Can someone explain the photo to me? I don't understand how the Mint charges the CC on failed ordering attempts
and then issues a credit. I'd of thought a charge would only hit the CC when an order is completed and a order number is issued.

I would suspect that your credit card company reversed the charges because they are all for the same amount within minutes of each other. They probably thought they were duplicate charges for the same item.

Tomthemailcarrier · August 10, 2021 6:03PM

I’m not sure if I got 6 Morgan’s or 3 Peace and 3 Morgan’s. Does anyone know if it would have prevented someone inadvertently exceeding the household limit?

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