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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The guys ATS not only came through Irma unscathed, but already have a special label for the set...

    ngccoin: NGC Special Label for American Liberty 225th Anniversary Silver Four-Medal Set

    I assume PCGS will have one, but there's no mention of one on their site yet.

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    BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭

    That's the same label as the 2017-S EF set

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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭✭

    @grote15 said:
    If it's limited to 12,500 sets you will have a flipper's dream..

    A flipper frenzy .. sellout in 2 minutes ?

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    KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ECHOES said:
    I'm in ! :#

    Me too. Slabbed set probably. Learned from the EU set on pricing.


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    GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What if they let the Dealers buy first with unlimited quantities and Mike with HSN will buy them all up! Sort of like how the dealers got in line first at the Denver show or so I am told. I sure hope I don't have to buy mine from HSN I hear his prices are double. I can see him on TV selling them at a cool $1000.00. With some special limited quantity label. With the Black Eagle Label!!!!! At least ANACS is a Oldie but Goodie! But I think I would rather have a PCGS or a NGC one.

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,171 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is over the top to me. Who would buy this now? Crazy? Yes.


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    BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭

    @bestday said:

    @grote15 said:
    If it's limited to 12,500 sets you will have a flipper's dream..

    A flipper frenzy .. sellout in 2 minutes ?

    No friggin way it will be at 12.5k....50 or 75k or in complete stupidity 225k

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    dmwestdmwest Posts: 959 ✭✭✭✭

    @BigA said:

    No friggin way it will be at 12.5k....50 or 75k or in complete stupidity 225k

    So you think 1,000,000?

    Don't quote me on that.

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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭✭

    @Kudbegud said:

    This is over the top to me. Who would buy this now? Crazy? Yes.

    Small fry seller .. interesting what the mintage will be .... 75,000?

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,171 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 12, 2017 3:42PM

    I reported the pre sale...more than the 30 days in advance that eBay allows for pre sale items. Looks like the seller got the word...listing has ended.

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭

    @dmwest said:

    @BigA said:

    No friggin way it will be at 12.5k....50 or 75k or in complete stupidity 225k

    So you think 1,000,000?

    :)

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    grote15grote15 Posts: 30,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BigA said:

    @bestday said:

    @grote15 said:
    If it's limited to 12,500 sets you will have a flipper's dream..

    A flipper frenzy .. sellout in 2 minutes ?

    No friggin way it will be at 12.5k....50 or 75k or in complete stupidity 225k

    Agreed but that is what it was last year with the silver Peace medals that sold out in 6 minutes.



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    BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭

    Correct....and why I'm going with 50-75k

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    dmwestdmwest Posts: 959 ✭✭✭✭

    @BigA said:
    Correct....and why I'm going with 50-75k

    I think you are correct with 75k. HH limits of 5.

    D2

    Don't quote me on that.

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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BigA said:

    @bestday said:

    @grote15 said:
    If it's limited to 12,500 sets you will have a flipper's dream..

    A flipper frenzy .. sellout in 2 minutes ?

    No friggin way it will be at 12.5k....50 or 75k or in complete stupidity 225k

    The 12.5K was based on statements made by the mint during the introduction of the 225th anniversary. The mint stated they would double the number of medals struck over 2016. That's 50K medals, at 4/set is 12.5K sets.

    Now, that was a year ago. since then they put a ridiculously high mintage on the gold AmLib, and an unlimited mintage on the silver stand-alone medal, and I fully expect the same for the four-coin set.

    They should make the mintage 22,500. Just sayin'.

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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2017 1:04AM

    Published last night:

    Mintage Limit: 50,000
    Product Limit: 50,000
    Household Order Limit: 2

    This might suck me in for one.... Gonna make me itch to pay $50/ozt for a medal...

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    ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm still in, HHL 2 great idea.
    This will make it much better for us 'collectors'.

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    PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the update Backroadjunkie- I'll be in for one! I bet this will still be gone in under 15 minutes...mentally preparing for a wild ride...limit coffee. :#

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    dmwestdmwest Posts: 959 ✭✭✭✭

    @BackroadJunkie said:
    Published last night:

    Mintage Limit: 50,000
    Product Limit: 50,000
    Household Order Limit: 2

    This might suck me in for one.... Gonna make me itch to pay $50/ozt for a medal...

    I think it's awesome, except for the price per ounce. I'm in for the HHL.

    D2

    Don't quote me on that.

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Still a pass for me

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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭✭

    @dmwest said:

    @BackroadJunkie said:
    Published last night:

    Mintage Limit: 50,000
    Product Limit: 50,000
    Household Order Limit: 2

    This might suck me in for one.... Gonna make me itch to pay $50/ozt for a medal...

    I think it's awesome, except for the price per ounce. I'm in for the HHL.

    D2

    LOL... HHL 2 .. ? fast sellout... under 4 minutes ...In for more than 2 ?

    Looking at silver melt as value ?? no way... this one will be a flipper , Even this set caught my dealer friend's eye at the Show, for the variety
    Another President 's coin set..... like run for this set ?
    That ebay fellow jumped the gun with his presale price on set but good ball park number

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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think some of the math on this as has been posted is a bit faulty:
    139-120=19
    NO! FIrst off it's 145. Secondly the wholesale price is WAY less than 120, and will be even less with another 50k coins on the market. I would say the math would be:

    145-85=60. So I don't want the other coins for a net of 60 at all...

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    nurmalernurmaler Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭

    Can someone remind me how many they sold of the initial one?

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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Mint is trying to suck in people with the HL, trying to make it look more attractive. No way is there 50,000 people collecting these!!

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    KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, I'll be one of the 25,000 (if every order is for 2). Just one though. Maybe a 70 set later


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    BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2017 10:43AM

    No way is there 50,000 people collecting these!!

    The set? Absolutely not. ASE collectors? Absolutely...if you need the S then you have to weigh whether to buy one in the aftermarket or buy this set. I would just buy an S...

    I have a bunch (for me) so the set doesn't interest me but I bet I still buy one

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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BigA said:

    No way is there 50,000 people collecting these!!

    The set? Absolutely not. ASE collectors? Absolutely...if you need the S then you have to weigh whether to buy one in the aftermarket or buy this set. I would just buy an S...

    I have a bunch (for me) so the set doesn't interest me but I bet I still buy one

    I know life can sometimes get confusing....

    But ya' got the wrong thread there. ;)

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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @7Jaguars said:
    I think some of the math on this as has been posted is a bit faulty:
    139-120=19
    NO! FIrst off it's 145. Secondly the wholesale price is WAY less than 120, and will be even less with another 50k coins on the market. I would say the math would be:

    145-85=60. So I don't want the other coins for a net of 60 at all...

    You too, I think. Wrong thread.

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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nurmaler said:
    Can someone remind me how many they sold of the initial one?

    12,500 S-Mint and 12,500 W-Mint. $34.95 each, HHL 2.

    Sold out in 6 minutes.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,232 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BackroadJunkie said:

    @nurmaler said:
    Can someone remind me how many they sold of the initial one?

    12,500 S-Mint and 12,500 W-Mint. $34.95 each, HHL 2.

    Sold out in 6 minutes.

    I'm confused

    all this thread mixing

    which numbers go to which products?

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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @BackroadJunkie said:

    @nurmaler said:
    Can someone remind me how many they sold of the initial one?

    12,500 S-Mint and 12,500 W-Mint. $34.95 each, HHL 2.

    Sold out in 6 minutes.

    I'm confused

    all this thread mixing

    which numbers go to which products?

    This was the 2016 American Liberty medals sold last year. There were two of them offered, each having a 12.5K mintage, one from SF, the other from WP.

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    nurmalernurmaler Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭

    @BackroadJunkie said:

    @nurmaler said:
    Can someone remind me how many they sold of the initial one?

    12,500 S-Mint and 12,500 W-Mint. $34.95 each, HHL 2.

    Sold out in 6 minutes.

    lol! I meant the 2017 medal (the one not part of the set. - https://catalog.usmint.gov/225th-anniversary-american-liberty-silver-medal-17XB.html?cgid=product-schedule )
    It was 44,431 as of 9/10/2017

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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nurmaler said:

    @BackroadJunkie said:

    @nurmaler said:
    Can someone remind me how many they sold of the initial one?

    12,500 S-Mint and 12,500 W-Mint. $34.95 each, HHL 2.

    Sold out in 6 minutes.

    lol! I meant the 2017 medal (the one not part of the set. - https://catalog.usmint.gov/225th-anniversary-american-liberty-silver-medal-17XB.html?cgid=product-schedule )
    It was 44,431 as of 9/10/2017

    The 2016 medal was the initial one... ;)

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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2017 11:27AM

    @BackroadJunkie said:
    Published last night:

    Mintage Limit: 50,000
    Product Limit: 50,000
    Household Order Limit: 2

    This might suck me in for one.... Gonna make me itch to pay $50/ozt for a medal...

    Notice those members holding on hope with > @jmlanzaf said:

    @bestday said:

    @dmwest said:

    @BackroadJunkie said:
    Published last night:

    Mintage Limit: 50,000
    Product Limit: 50,000
    Household Order Limit: 2

    This might suck me in for one.... Gonna make me itch to pay $50/ozt for a medal...

    I think it's awesome, except for the price per ounce. I'm in for the HHL.

    D2

    LOL... HHL 2 .. ? fast sellout... under 4 minutes ...In for more than 2 ?

    Looking at silver melt as value ?? no way... this one will be a flipper , Even this set caught my dealer friend's eye at the Show, for the variety
    Another President 's coin set..... like run for this set ?
    That ebay fellow jumped the gun with his presale price on set but good ball park number

    Flip it fast. By the New Year, it'll probably be under issue price. (IMHO.)

    Folks look at the posters from over 225th set thread.. holding many of 225th sets soon to be left off the radar

    Those members poopoohing the Liberty set ,while holding dead money in sets still waiting for sellout 7 weeks after issue ..

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    BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭

    I got my 50k's mixed up.... :*

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    If you look at the description of the earlier sliver medal for 2017, it was minted in Philly as a silver proof. This type of coin is different from the 4 coin medal set description. For example, the Silver proof medal is minted in San Francisco, not Philly.

    Only time will tell whether platinum is king.
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    dmwestdmwest Posts: 959 ✭✭✭✭

    @bestday said:
    Folks look at the posters from over 225th set thread.. holding many of 225th sets soon to be left off the radar

    Those members poopoohing the Liberty set ,while holding dead money in sets still waiting for sellout 7 weeks after issue ..

    I'm buying the Mint Medals because I like the design, so they will be for my PC. I can't afford the gold version, so I'll have to stick to the $50+ silver versions.

    I'm not expecting the EU set go all crazy in pricing. I hope it does well, but my expectations are firmly in reality.

    D2

    Don't quote me on that.

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,171 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2017 3:11PM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @BackroadJunkie said:

    @nurmaler said:
    Can someone remind me how many they sold of the initial one?

    12,500 S-Mint and 12,500 W-Mint. $34.95 each, HHL 2.

    Sold out in 6 minutes.

    And a year later it's a $75 coin. 50,000???? Too many. IMHO and no matter what BestDay thinks.

    I'm sure you meant to say MEDAL & not coin. ;)

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dmwest said:

    @bestday said:
    Folks look at the posters from over 225th set thread.. holding many of 225th sets soon to be left off the radar

    Those members poopoohing the Liberty set ,while holding dead money in sets still waiting for sellout 7 weeks after issue ..

    I'm buying the Mint Medals because I like the design, so they will be for my PC. I can't afford the gold version, so I'll have to stick to the $50+ silver versions.

    I'm not expecting the EU set go all crazy in pricing. I hope it does well, but my expectations are firmly in reality.

    D2

    +1

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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭✭

    I have seen many a time in Trading... people hang on to losing trades ,while missing out on opportunities to make money l....ike hoping on the 225th set and passing on a good flip.....the Liberty set

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