2016 Centennial Gold 1916 coins (16XA, 16XB, 16XC)

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  • TwoSides2aCoin
    TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Does anyone have them in hand, yet ? I see a lot of them have already sold on eBay. Got my order in today. Curious on delivery time and how PCGS already has them graded on eBay. Is there a secret handshake or some _ _ _ _ going on behind closed doors ?
  • JCLIGHTBRIGADE
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    Originally posted by: TwoSides2aCoin
    Does anyone have them in hand, yet ? I see a lot of them have already sold on eBay. Got my order in today. Curious on delivery time and how PCGS already has them graded on eBay. Is there a secret handshake or some _ _ _ _ going on behind closed doors ?


    Those B presales,..
  • pf70collector
    pf70collector Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
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    Coin Vault is selling the NGC SP70s for $349 and OGP for $299. Silvertown's is $399.

    Seems reasonable.
  • EagleEye
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    From the image, these have no central bands. They must have copied the design off of a 1945.
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  • VanHalen
    VanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: greghansen

    Credit card just got hit on first of my 3 orders (2 each)




    Same here. Orders confirmed and credit card hit for both orders. Still listed as "Processing" though.



  • TwoSides2aCoin
    TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thanks JCLightBrigade. A couple of the already ended auctions were my gauge on eBay , and for that question. I hadn't noticed if they were , in fact, pre sales. I see this now. So there's a BET that some will get the grade of 70. That's too much risk for a Presale, for me.
  • illini420
    illini420 Posts: 11,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Was browsing eBay way too late this evening and came across the first pics of what look to be the actual coin. Looks much better than I thought it would:

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  • chiefbob
    chiefbob Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭
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    Any plans for PCGS to offer a triple holder of all three gold centennials? That would make a nice set of three in lieu of the Mint not offering one.

    I ordered at 12:01 yesterday, took ten minutes to go through as I kept getting a "secure connection lost as page was loading" when I clicked "submit". But, my order for two finally went through and my cc is pinged for the order.
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  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: BackroadJunkie
    The mint has released a statement that it'll announce first day sales tomorrow morning...


    Lies! image

    No numbers, but they did release a statement that the coin will be

    currently unavailable until all order reconciliations and order cancellations have been processed.


    I wonder if they really know. image
  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: illini420
    Was browsing eBay way too late this evening and came across the first pics of what look to be the actual coin. Looks much better than I thought it would:



    That's the coin that was at the Baltimore show, yes?

    I'm not sure anyone has these in hand yet...
  • goldbuffalo
    goldbuffalo Posts: 712 ✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: BackroadJunkie
    Originally posted by: BackroadJunkie
    The mint has released a statement that it'll announce first day sales tomorrow morning...


    Lies! image

    No numbers, but they did release a statement that the coin will be

    currently unavailable until all order reconciliations and order cancellations have been processed.


    I wonder if they really know. image



    My guess is:

    125,000

  • goldbuffalo
    goldbuffalo Posts: 712 ✭✭✭
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    One just sold at auction for $305 on the bay !!!

    presale.


  • kookoox10
    kookoox10 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭
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    You know how tricky the mint can be. With that being said, I wonder if out of all the dies used to strike these, that maybe they had one run with actual full split bands on them. That might raise the excitement level a notch, especially for the grading fanatics.
  • goldbuffalo
    goldbuffalo Posts: 712 ✭✭✭
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    Just got a shipping notice.

    Shipment Summary
    Dear ,
    Thank you for shopping at the United States Mint. Your recent order has now shipped.

  • telephoto1
    telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Totally called this earlier. Not sure why folks were shocked by the sellout. Classic design, lower mintage, decent price point making them affordable for a wider range of collectors, and attractively packaged. Total no brainer. The SL quarter and WL half issues should follow suit although perhaps not as quickly given the higher prices- particularly the walker.

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  • Raufus
    Raufus Posts: 7,562 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: BackroadJunkie
    Originally posted by: illini420
    Was browsing eBay way too late this evening and came across the first pics of what look to be the actual coin. Looks much better than I thought it would:



    That's the coin that was at the Baltimore show, yes?

    I'm not sure anyone has these in hand yet...


    Baltimore show Mint display coin I assume.

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  • Raufus
    Raufus Posts: 7,562 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: goldbuffalo
    Just got a shipping notice.

    Shipment Summary
    Dear ,
    Thank you for shopping at the United States Mint. Your recent order has now shipped.



    Did u get expedited shipping?

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  • MilesWaits
    MilesWaits Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: telephoto1
    Totally called this earlier. Not sure why folks were shocked by the sellout. Classic design, lower mintage, decent price point making them affordable for a wider range of collectors, and attractively packaged. Total no brainer. The SL quarter and WL half issues should follow suit although perhaps not as quickly given the higher prices- particularly the walker.


    All true Tele....

    And, how many times has this happened? A gold Mercury?

    More than one?!

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • Kudbegud
    Kudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: illini420

    Was browsing eBay way too late this evening and came across the first pics of what look to be the actual coin. Looks much better than I thought it would:



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    I also got shipping notice for my single order. Standard shipping.



    There still is time to make the promised announcement about sales yesterday before I call them out for missing another opportunity to excel.



    These photos show an actual gold dime unlike the mint artist rendition drawings previously claimed by a mint spokesman as real photographs. It was obvious the truth was being stretched. These photos are the nail in the coffin. There was no luster to be seen in the flat homogeneous drawings.



    And BTW, I made a milestone. 1600 posts. image

  • goldbuffalo
    goldbuffalo Posts: 712 ✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Raufus
    Originally posted by: goldbuffalo
    Just got a shipping notice.

    Shipment Summary
    Dear ,
    Thank you for shopping at the United States Mint. Your recent order has now shipped.



    Did u get expedited shipping?



    No special shipping.

    This is a PO Box.

    I split the 10 coins into 3 orders. Only one shipped so far.

    0412****

    12:09pm time received email confirmation.

  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: goldbuffalo
    Originally posted by: BackroadJunkie
    Originally posted by: BackroadJunkie
    The mint has released a statement that it'll announce first day sales tomorrow morning...


    Lies! image

    No numbers, but they did release a statement that the coin will be

    currently unavailable until all order reconciliations and order cancellations have been processed.


    I wonder if they really know. image



    My guess is:

    125,000



    125,000 would be good. 130,000 might be problematic. image
  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Raufus
    Originally posted by: BackroadJunkie
    Originally posted by: illini420
    Was browsing eBay way too late this evening and came across the first pics of what look to be the actual coin. Looks much better than I thought it would:



    That's the coin that was at the Baltimore show, yes?

    I'm not sure anyone has these in hand yet...


    Baltimore show Mint display coin I assume.



    Yep. The mint had one there. The other photos of it I've seen are all on that black background, so I assume it was the display coin.

    Edit to add: No tracking numbers yet for either order. image
  • MilesWaits
    MilesWaits Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Maybe someone with skills could post pics of the NGC and PCGS slabs as I believe the PCGS are MUCH more attractive.

    MCM just sent me an email with the NGC offers. If I wanted a graded version the decision would be very easy.
    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    PCGS seems to have pulled their large image, but the small one is still there:

    PCGS: 100th Anniversary of the Mercury Dime Label

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    NGC's labels, but the coin designations are wrong.

    NGC: NGC Labels for 100th Anniversary Gold Coins

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  • steveben
    steveben Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    my order is 04117xxx



    i paid for next day, my credit card is pinged...but it still says processing?
  • MilesWaits
    MilesWaits Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thank you, BackroadJunkie. for posting the pics!
    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • LITTLEEAGLE
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    I just got 2 email from the mint that 2 orders shipped, here is the last oder # USM04124xxx I placed my other earlier order are still processing.
  • phantom1701
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    Originally posted by: steveben
    my order is 04117xxx

    i paid for next day, my credit card is pinged...but it still says processing?


    Same. You would think the mint would ship the expedited orders first, but this is the mint we are talking about.
  • Capgun
    Capgun Posts: 981 ✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: phantom1701
    Originally posted by: steveben
    my order is 04117xxx

    i paid for next day, my credit card is pinged...but it still says processing?


    Same. You would think the mint would ship the expedited orders first, but this is the mint we are talking about.


    Same. Last next day order was pinged on card on order date but did not ship for 4 business days. Called on day 3 & was told "ordered on Thursday - takes up to 48 business hours to process so Friday & Monday processing." When asked why its Tuesday night (day 3) & no ship yet, had no answer. Shipped on Wednesday, received Thursday one week later.

    This is how the US Mint rolls. Received after some non-expedited shipping orders were already received by others.

    Not holding my breath for this order to ship # 04123xxx



  • Weiss
    Weiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Don't know if it's been posted, but CoinNews Dot Net's take on the fast sell out.
    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame


  • Here's a picture of one on eBay with full bands. Is it a doctored photo or will some have full bands?



    ******CLICK******
  • Weiss
    Weiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: IwasAgentjim007

    Here's a picture of one on eBay with full bands. Is it a doctored photo or will some have full bands?

    ******CLICK******



    No, that's a stolen mock-up.
    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • VanHalen
    VanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: MilesWaits

    Maybe someone with skills could post pics of the NGC and PCGS slabs as I believe the PCGS are MUCH more attractive.



    MCM just sent me an email with the NGC offers. If I wanted a graded version the decision would be very easy.




    Don't understand MCM's pricing the SP69s only ~$60 less than the SP70s? $340 vs $400.



    And the SP designation is unusual as well.



  • edgar
    edgar Posts: 886 ✭✭✭✭
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    Order USM04132700 at 12:15 EDT and Order USM04133887 at 12:17 EDT both single item orders, have shipped!
    both tracking numbers are smartpost (fedex) numbers

    (l8-)>>

  • 123cents
    123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
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    Coins shipped today
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  • derryb
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    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: phantom1701
    Originally posted by: steveben
    my order is 04117xxx

    i paid for next day, my credit card is pinged...but it still says processing?


    Same. You would think the mint would ship the expedited orders first, but this is the mint we are talking about.


    Technically, all the orders are expedited, since the product is a precious metal. --corrected, PM's only get upgraded to expedited if standard shipping is selected, not budget. However, orders of two or more will get upgraded to expedited regardless of shipping choice. --

    The only difference between expedited and next day is the shipping method. Both will probably get filled (prior to shipping) on the same basis.

    What's getting me is my 12:02 (041170xx) and 12:08 (041222xx) order hasn't gotten a ship number yet, but later orders have. Probably doesn't make any difference in the grand scheme of how UPS will receive the packages from the mint, but hey, it's the principle of the thing. image

    Edited to update: Got a ship number for my 12:08 order, but not my 12:02 order...
  • Capgun
    Capgun Posts: 981 ✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: derryb


    This oughta drive the label collectors crazy. . .

    19 different labels for one coin from one TPG alone



    Geeez! Labelmania
  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    cough.

    Mine aren't going in unless they're particularly shiny...
  • Overdate
    Overdate Posts: 7,318 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I might bite for a slabbed one when the price drops back below $250. Prefer a PCGS SP69 First Strike, flag label.

  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well, for all my complaining, both of my packages had been picked up, processed through, and have departed the UPS Memphis facility.

    Should be in-hand by Tuesday. Five days from order to delivery. That's better than Amazon these days. image
  • Raufus
    Raufus Posts: 7,562 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: BackroadJunkie
    Well, for all my complaining, both of my packages had been picked up, processed through, and have departed the UPS Memphis facility.

    Should be in-hand by Tuesday. Five days from order to delivery. That's better than Amazon these days. image




    What time did u get that order in?
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  • Kudbegud
    Kudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ordered 12:01, email 12:05, first shipped email 4/22 11:24 am, left Memphis tracking email 4/23 3:13 am, expected delivery Monday

  • Manorcourtman
    Manorcourtman Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I find it amazing how inept the Mgmt. is at the Mint. They could have sold 2x the mintage offered. And now they can't figure out how many they sold the first day? Unbelievable. If they weren't a monopoly they'd have been out of business years ago!
  • HATTRICK
    HATTRICK Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Here is a conspiracy theory for you. First day sales were 60,000. The mint is holding release of the number so the big boys can get their high priced sales in while everybody is thinking sellout. Early next week they will announce another 65,000 are going on sale.image
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  • BAJJERFAN
    BAJJERFAN Posts: 31,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: younique

    Originally posted by: derryb





    This oughta drive the label collectors crazy. . .



    19 different labels for one coin from one TPG alone







    Geeez! Labelmania





    How many here would be willing to pay $500 extra if PCGS could be coaxed into declaring your coin as the first one graded?
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  • CaptHenway
    CaptHenway Posts: 34,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Some people are calling the issue a fiasco because of the rapid sellout to flippers and telemarketers. Others are calling it a great success because of the rapid sellout. WHat do you think?
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  • TomB
    TomB Posts: 23,189 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: CaptHenway

    Some people are calling the issue a fiasco because of the rapid sellout to flippers and telemarketers. Others are calling it a great success because of the rapid sellout. WHat do you think?




    I think it should have been highly predictable. A classic, well-loved design that was rendered fairly well, minted in gold and sold at a price point that left the door open for an enormous number of folks to enter the market was then produced in relatively low enough numbers and high enough household limits such that not all that many orders needed to be placed to wipe out inventory.



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  • Goldminers
    Goldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: CaptHenway
    Some people are calling the issue a fiasco because of the rapid sellout to flippers and telemarketers. Others are calling it a great success because of the rapid sellout. WHat do you think?


    I am going with fiasco. There are 357 sold listings on eBay for 2016 mercury gold dimes including a large percentage of 10 coin lots. Now there are still 438 current for sale listings on eBay including dozens of 10 coins per box listings. Not counting the other dealers, telemarketers, etc.

    This might even be worse than the gold Kennedy's as far as final value. I suspect many will lose money as eBay charges 10% and when that is factored, many may not even get their money back.

    I call it a flip-flop.

    I will buy one MS70 or SP70 (not sure what it will be called) PCGS coin for my collection after the pixie dust settles.
  • Raufus
    Raufus Posts: 7,562 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: CaptHenway
    Some people are calling the issue a fiasco because of the rapid sellout to flippers and telemarketers. Others are calling it a great success because of the rapid sellout. WHat do you think?


    More of a fiasco. HH limit too high. Issues w Mint web site are maddening. Just being able to get in order in was a matter of luck.

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